Are Fossil Fuels the Problem? | Dr. Emily Fischer of Science Moms | The InEVitable

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  • Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
  • MotorTrend's Ed Loh & Jonny Lieberman chat with Dr. Emily Fischer of Science Moms to talk
    all about climate change, atmospheric science, wildfires, outdoor & indoor air quality, childhood asthma, and what we can do to combat all of this! Dr. Emily Fischer is a Professor in the Department of Atmospheric Science at Colorado State University, and a member of Science Moms! Learn more at ScienceMoms.com. Learn more HERE :➡️ bit.ly/43pIA5d
    #TheInEVitable #EV #MotorTrend
    1:13 - "Corvette Z06 Road Trip Blues, Climate Change & Cars We Love."
    3:48 - About today's guest - Dr. Emily Fischer!
    6:33 - Are we DOOMED by Climate Change!?
    9:17 - Current and future effects of Climate Change.
    11:31 - Hole in the Ozone issue was solved by Science!
    14:58 - The proof. "Do you believe in Thermometers?"
    19:17 - Consensus about Climate Change.
    21:25 - Scientific uncertainty principle.
    23:54 - Science Moms! ScienceMoms.com
    28:50 - Pandemic example. 40% drop in pollutants in Los Angeles. Detectable from SPACE!
    30:40 - Air quality & respiratory impacts. Cancer rates near freeways.
    34:45 - Hybrid stepping stone.
    36:35 - How is California doing?
    38:37 - Power Grid is getting greener.
    42:24 - What do you drive? Charging
    46:10 - Charging infrastructure.
    49:04 - Emily's day to day working in Atmospheric Chemistry.
    51:12 - Agriculture, large animal feeding.
    55:39 - Magic wand.
    59:22 - Atomic energy?
    01:01:27 - Diesel Gate.
    01:05:25 - Particulate matter from fires.
    01:07:04 - Cameron Peak fire story.
    01:12:17 - Tsunami warning in Alaska.
    01:15:10 - California Wildfires.
    01:18:20 - Homemade Hepa Cube.
    01:19:30 - Induction vs gas cooking.
    01:21:15 - Synthetic fuels.
    01:23:53 - Impact on future generations.
    01:30:35 - Climate intervention - Reflecting the sun's light.
    01:35:50 - ScienceMoms.com to learn more!
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Комментарии • 74

  • @goatcreek
    @goatcreek 2 месяца назад +6

    Great discussion. But Johnny Lieberman, please stop interrupting and put your words into others mouth. Unbearable to listen when you get into every sentence.

  • @jusdsun8319
    @jusdsun8319 2 месяца назад +17

    Inevitable would be incorrect. Auto manufacturers are already pulling back when they really never even got started.

    • @EdwardLoh
      @EdwardLoh 2 месяца назад +5

      Thanks for watching. A couple of things: we named the pod "The InEVitable", not this-is-happening-tomorrow or easy-peasy-lemon-squeezy. The point is, the transition from ICE to to hybrids/PHEVS to BEVs. We know it. If it were easy, we wouldn't do a podcast on it. But it's still inevitable. Despite the narrative in the news, the US sold blew past 1M new EVs sold in 2023, to nearly 1.2M or 7.6% of all new vehicle sales. In 2016, US EV sales were 159K. Is there a sales slowdown in the US, yes, but like the stock market, thing sometimes go down when everyone thought they'd go up. Looking globally however, and EVs are increasingly the answer. The economies of scale of EV production are too compelling. Problem areas, like charging infrastructure, are being addressed. And EVs are too expensive? Yes, that is true, but a wave of lower cost EVs are just about to hit the market.

    • @ethanlamoureux5306
      @ethanlamoureux5306 2 месяца назад +10

      ​@@EdwardLohEVs are facing more than a few problems. They are too expensive, too expensive to maintain, lose their value too quickly, too short range, take too long to charge, take too much energy to charge, store their energy in too volatile a form, catch fire too easily, are too hard to extinguish, are too heavy, require heavier duty tires, wear tires out too quickly, pollute the environment with too much tire rubber, cause/receive too much damage in accidents due to weight, don’t get any lighter with distance, depend too much on government subsidies, cannot be taxed the same as other vehicles, depend on slave labor, are made of materials the collection of which is extremely damaging to the environment, cause massive pollution in concentrated locations to generate the necessary charging power, destabilize the power grid, are too easily controlled by totalitarian governments, and do absolutely nothing to improve the environment. The only reason for them is to prevent climate change, but we cannot prevent climate change, especially not by abandoning internal combustion vehicles that work in favor of electric vehicles that don’t. Oh, and almost everything in this video is a lie. Science is based on reality, not consensus, so it doesn’t matter how many scientists agree: the majority can be, and often are, wrong.

    • @Jimmy-zq2mj
      @Jimmy-zq2mj 2 месяца назад +1

      @@EdwardLoh Yes, a new wave of lower cost EVs from our good friends in China.

    • @craigcontofalsky4387
      @craigcontofalsky4387 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@ethanlamoureux5306
      You are 100% correct! All bunk science. Climate is not a static thing. It was much hotter before the ice age and probably will get there again whether or not mankind even existed. One last thing. I never thought about how when your battery is depleted you don't get any lighter like a ICE vehicle using it's fuel load. Very good point.

    • @ethanlamoureux5306
      @ethanlamoureux5306 2 месяца назад +2

      @@craigcontofalsky4387 Yes, the fact that batteries are just as heavy empty as full is one of the reasons why battery-electric aircraft are impractical and generally can’t fly for more than an hour without risking an emergency.

  • @rickrinke1443
    @rickrinke1443 2 месяца назад +9

    As an automotive engineer I would highly recommend reading the Volvo report on carbon reduction EV vs ICE.

    • @Jamessansome
      @Jamessansome 2 месяца назад +10

      ​@@FreiherrDinkelackerAre you referring to the 2021 article by Volvo?
      It is based on incorrect data and has been debunked. Me Bean also referred to that Volvo study in a FUD article he wrote which wasn't fact checked before being used. The paper had to issue an apology a few days later for spreading misinformation on EV's.

    • @kimi17147
      @kimi17147 2 месяца назад

      @@Jamessansomedon’t use facts!!! lol

  • @Otto-mq8lg
    @Otto-mq8lg 19 дней назад

    We need to change the mineral mining equipment to EV to stop climate change! 🧐

  • @narek_kona302
    @narek_kona302 2 месяца назад +1

    Can someone confirm if it's true that it takes 7 years for an electric car to become carbon neutral? Considering all the mining of rare minerals and transporting that happens in the process

    • @justinschultz4325
      @justinschultz4325 2 месяца назад +4

      Most studies show 15,000 to 30,000 miles of driving. This will become even better as the grid becomes cleaner.

    • @narek_kona302
      @narek_kona302 2 месяца назад +1

      @justinschultz4325 but that's including all the mining that is done and the importing process around the world?

    • @justinschultz4325
      @justinschultz4325 2 месяца назад

      This topic is nicely discussed in the video. Roughly 35 minutes in. ​@narek_kona302

    • @EdwardLoh
      @EdwardLoh 2 месяца назад +1

      Here is another way to look at it. I chatted with the Brandon Vivian, the chief engineer of Cadillac the other day. Early in his career, he was a GM engineer on the EV-1 - the first production EV from a major OEM. Vivian now leads Cadillac on both badass Blackwing V8s and EVs like the Lyriq and Celestiq. I asked him there was much "meat on the bone" when it comes to ICE. Can V8s and turbo V6s get much more powerfuel and efficient? Is anyone continuing to R&D ICE-related tech, like manual transmission? The answer: "No, not really." In comparison, the current crop of EVs is still in its infancy. We're only just getting started. This is like the 1910-1920s of gas cars, comparatively speaking. Where will be in 100 years? Apply that same template at the industry level. America has a handful of EV start ups. China has dozens. Not all are going to survive. Same goes for legacy automakers struggling to make the switch to EVs. Some of them are starting to fail, in China, US and Europe. Consolidation is coming, the same consolidation that built GM in the '10s, '20s and '30s.

    • @narek_kona302
      @narek_kona302 2 месяца назад

      @EdwardLoh you just wonder if it is the right direction, seems like there are other alternatives to go carbon neutral like they mentioned synthetic fuels, hydrogen power, and my favorite e85 which I don't understand why all manufacturers do have some sort of flex fuel system in their cars but I digress.

  • @freecanadaplease
    @freecanadaplease 2 месяца назад +8

    Here in Canada 80% of forest fires are human caused. Man arrested in Quebec for setting 14 fires.

    • @leemiller7969
      @leemiller7969 2 месяца назад +2

      Not even close! The causes of forest fires varies dependent on region. In BC most forest fires are in the high north where there are no people - they are caused by lightning strikes. Each province has unique characteristics and populations that impact a variety of fires.

    • @rollercity
      @rollercity 2 месяца назад

      @@leemiller7969"Finally! Someone who speaks English"

    • @freecanadaplease
      @freecanadaplease 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@leemiller7969human caused, campfires ,roots can stay burning for months. Idiots driving over dry grass...etc Logged a lot of fire breaks for Ranger stations in Alberta/BC . Another huge problem is protected old growth that are small dried out trees. Sweden stopped selective logging in the 90s , full clear cuts, guess what ? No massive forest fires in Sweden. Seen this coming since the 90s in western Canada. Poor forest management. Pine Beetle is another.

    • @stevenmaresca9637
      @stevenmaresca9637 2 месяца назад +2

      Also when forestry companies replant forest it's done with only one type pine tree. So there's no natural fire buffers with leafing trees and it gets out of control like we've see.

    • @epicchocolate1866
      @epicchocolate1866 2 месяца назад

      The first article I pulled up show 40% lol www2.gov.bc.ca/gov/content/safety/wildfire-status/wildfire-response/what-causes-wildfire

  • @ry491
    @ry491 2 месяца назад +24

    Long live the V8 . Net zero is a conn .

    • @TheAnnako1
      @TheAnnako1 2 месяца назад +1

      Not only long live the V8 but the V8 can run on alcohol it can run on bio fuels and it can run on synthetics but batteries will always be a total catastrophe period.

    • @Otto-mq8lg
      @Otto-mq8lg 19 дней назад

      @@TheAnnako1 Wait till all the junk yards are replaced with batteries..

  • @Jambi1972
    @Jambi1972 2 месяца назад +9

    adios MotorTrend. Done with you.

  • @outinthewildoutinthewild8687
    @outinthewildoutinthewild8687 2 месяца назад +5

    Ouch 32:67 nice to see they care about themselves and not the devastation mining and producing EV components is doing to other parts of the world. But don't worry my kids are safe..

  • @TheKingkingg
    @TheKingkingg 2 месяца назад +2

    Fossil fuel will not last forever and destructive to mine. But it can continue without mad rush for rich to get richer along with hydrogen technology which is unlimited.

  • @John-qb4no
    @John-qb4no 2 месяца назад

    Lawn equipment contribute pollution just as much as private cars. 🦗🦗🦗

  • @user-uy6bq1fk4r
    @user-uy6bq1fk4r 2 месяца назад

    West does not like fuel cars neither electric ones 😅😅

  • @f.chrisliuzzo7889
    @f.chrisliuzzo7889 2 месяца назад +4

    The batteries in these e cars are bad bad bad…. Then add in the extra weight of these vehicles and we got issues. And the fact that folks are not gonna sit and watch their car charge we’re gonna have many many fires. Every day Cars need to be basic and that’s no more…

  • @LBeaudoin
    @LBeaudoin 2 месяца назад +7

    15% of the world CO2 is emitted from transportation, 41% from the energy sector. Yes keep burning Methane and coal but stop cars. Great plan!

    • @LBeaudoin
      @LBeaudoin 2 месяца назад +4

      7.2% from passenger cars. Stop driving your car right away, lololol

    • @itssogood69
      @itssogood69 2 месяца назад +1

      @@LBeaudoin 30:00

    • @rohanm54
      @rohanm54 2 месяца назад

      You missed the entire point of the podcast. It’s air quality that gets affected. That 15% probably affects 50-60% of people in cities. You clearly have a small brain.

    • @goatcreek
      @goatcreek 2 месяца назад

      Of course you have to do both and the ratio depends on where you are.

  • @rickrinke1443
    @rickrinke1443 2 месяца назад

    Hemp biofuels are a great source for reducing CO2

    • @UncleJoeHikes
      @UncleJoeHikes 2 месяца назад

      Rain forests are a great way.

    • @rickrinke1443
      @rickrinke1443 2 месяца назад +1

      @@UncleJoeHikes hemp consumes 10X the co2 over trees and hemp grows anywhere. Also creates excellent biofuels

  • @ourv9603
    @ourv9603 2 месяца назад

    YES, they are. According to the US EPA of all the polluting sources, factories, reailroads, diesel trucks & tractors & ships gas powered automobile emit more pollution than all of the rest combined. WHY? Because there are just so danged many of them.
    !

  • @AnotherCG
    @AnotherCG 2 месяца назад

    There is no such thing as a fossil fuel

  • @matthewrael3793
    @matthewrael3793 2 месяца назад +9

    Absolute garbage!

  • @michalandrejmolnar3715
    @michalandrejmolnar3715 2 месяца назад +3

    The ICE engine can survive with ammonia or hydrogen, but apart from a hobby or weekend use, for commuting electric cars are much better Because theyre more energy efficient and therefore we need less renewables for them than if we use for the same purpose synthetic fuels.

    • @rickrinke1443
      @rickrinke1443 2 месяца назад

      How many miles on average does it take an EV to use less carbon then an ICE vehicle?

    • @michalandrejmolnar3715
      @michalandrejmolnar3715 2 месяца назад

      @@rickrinke1443 About 40 percent under pretty normal emissions from electricity generation and Chinese batteries. It's up to 80 percent if its made with home-made batteries (like the new sodium ion batteries) and if the electricity is clean

    • @rickrinke1443
      @rickrinke1443 2 месяца назад +2

      @@michalandrejmolnar3715 unfortunately it takes on average 70% more co2 to build an EV vs an ICE vehicle. It takes approximately 68000 miles before any gain of co2 are noticed based on the Volvo study in partnership with MIT.

    • @imgooley
      @imgooley 2 месяца назад

      Trains and even buses are far and away more efficient for commuting and have a higher long term social return on capital than cars.

    • @michalandrejmolnar3715
      @michalandrejmolnar3715 2 месяца назад +1

      @@rickrinke1443 That study takes not the US electricity generation, but electricity from coal and takes the highest estimate of the CO2 emitted in battery production, that is so high because China has 80 % coal in electricity generation

  • @michalandrejmolnar3715
    @michalandrejmolnar3715 2 месяца назад

    Yes and first

    • @michalandrejmolnar3715
      @michalandrejmolnar3715 2 месяца назад

      @@FreiherrDinkelacker I said yes to fossil fuels are the problem

  • @user-gm1qp9oi7j
    @user-gm1qp9oi7j 2 месяца назад +3

    If we stopped eating beef we could still drive our high powered v8's

    • @Stilo95
      @Stilo95 2 месяца назад +4

      Nice try bot.

    • @user-gm1qp9oi7j
      @user-gm1qp9oi7j 2 месяца назад

      @Stilo95 I'm not a bot I understand that the beef industry contributes a lot of methane gas into the atmosphere which is a greenhouse gas