1948 Remember... al-Nakba: the Palestinians' Catastrophe, the Palestians Today
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- Опубликовано: 11 май 2023
- ICAHD remembers the Nakba on its 75th anniversary by giving voice to critical Israeli Jews who speak about Zionism, the ongoing ethnic cleansing and how it is time for all Israelis and Jews to acknowledge the Nakba and take responsibility for it.
With Jeff Halper, Livnat Konopny, Anat Matar, Gideon Levy, Rachel Beitarie, Tom Pessah, and Haim Bresheeth.
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The arab league's secretary general described the 1948 war as what will be "a war of extermination and momentous massacre which will be spoken of like the Mongolian massacre and the Crusades."[1]
And the Torah instructs Jews over and over to attack and exterminate all outsiders on "their" land. Ready to move on?
That was a blood-curdling threat.
Thanks
So sad
Thank you very much for this video, my dear Jewish friends! I pray that the time will come when the Jews and Palestinians will live in mutual peace and joy!
The Arabs were offered a state in 1947, UN resolution 181, rejected by the Arabs but accepted by the Jews In 1939 the peel commission offered a state for the Arabs , the Arabs rejected it the Jews accepted . In 1945 the British took a survey of the land, 70% of the land was vacant, 8% was owned by Jews 4% was owned by Arabs. The remaining parts of the land were owned by absentee landlords. If One looks at a map from that period of time One can see that the entire bottom half of Israel was vacant. in 1923 the British took 80% of the land and turned it into an Arab state. that state is called Jordan today. And 2/3 of the population of Jordan is Palestinian Arabs. In November 1947 the Arabs started a Civil War by attacking Jewish settlements and villages and preventing Jews from transiting to Jerusalem, ambushing caravans and assassinating Jews. The Nakba was self inflicted!! In May 1948 five Arab armies attacked, they failed to achieve their goal of wiping out the Jewish state. The narrator fails to take into account the many times that Arabs were offered a state of their own, the Oslo accords which were signed by Israelis and Arabs was a pathway to statehood however the Arabs began a terrorist campaign instead of working to create a state. In 2000 the Clinton parameters created a pathway for an Arab state, that was rejected. The Arabs are like the child who kills his parents then Complains he is an orphan.
Zionists lies, myths, and fabrications.
There is no way zionists come to their reasoning . They always insist on their denial because their ideology is built on ethnic cleansing, exclusions, and denying the existence of a 14 million Palestinians.
We need real jews NOT ZIONISTS TO SOLVE THE PROBLEM. THERE IS NO OTHER WAY : THE PALESTINIANS HAVE TO HAVE THEIR RIGHTS AND THE REFUGEES MUST GO BACK TO THEIR COUNTRY ,ZOONISM must end to be something from the past, and a real democracy for all must be practiced from the River to the Sea in a secular democratic state for all. I know that this is not acceptable by the zionists because they want the conflict to continue for ever , but this is the only viable solution.
@johndunne Than you. Very clearly explained timeline but I don't understand why some choose to leave things out.
Very good video.
Historically speaking, Jews and Arabs have lived side by side for generations and are biblical cousins.
More emphasis must be put on the damage caused by the British pitting mostly peaceful neighbors against each other. Throughout the history of the British Empire, division was always their strategy once a colony was left. Ireland, India, South Africa & the Middle East are just a few examples.
I hope Israel & Palestine will live in peace as Two peoples in One land.
A Semitic Peoples Federation that is defended by both Jews and Arabs alike.
HISTORICALLY YOUR WRONG !! Jews were considered Dhimmis and had to pay a tax just for being Jews ,
you need to learn history before opening you mouth
Jews who lived in Muslim countries were considered Dhimmis , they and the Christians had to pay a Jiziya tax for not being Muslim . it was a form of punishment imposed on them, so living side by side ??? lol thats funny
The voice of reason and humanity.
I listened sympathetically and agreed with much of what I heard, but certain words uttered by one or two of those who spoke rendered their advocacy null and void in my thinking. I refer to the man who co-opted the expression "master race" and to the women who advocated that "Zionism must come to an end." A better understanding of history, international law and the avoidance of misnomers would serve those concerned better in the quest for justice and peace for all the peoples of the Levant.
It looks to me like the people of Palestine who had been there for a long time allowed refugees from Europe to live among them Then those refugees pushed them out of their homes. I've read about a Palestinian king from the and then later how over 100 years from 1850 to 1948 the Palestinians were abused first by the Turks then the British who handed control of the land over to those recent immigrants from Europe, Refugees who eventually pushed their hosts out of their homes.
really ??you think it was the Palestinians who allowed Jews to settle there ? you mean the British had no say ??🤣🤣 what backwards comic history book you reading ??
There was never a Palestinian country ,there was never a people called Palestinians ,pre 1948 nobody could tell the difference between a Palestinian and a Jordanian . same language same food same culture !
Even the 1947 partition plan drawn up by the Un never said to divide the land between Jews and Palestinians ,they said between Jews and Arabs .
Go read it
@@tboss6689 The main point is that the people there did allow the newcomers to stay and then those refugees kicked them out of their own land. Yes the British were in control and I have heard a lot about how they enabled the mainly European refugee/immigrants to thrive while holding back and abusing the Palestinians native to the land. I don't know all of the history but more than most Americans. If you think it was right for the British to along with the French divide up the land that was part of the Ottoman Empire for their own benefit after WWI and then after WWII give much of what we can refer to as Palestine to the mainly European immigrants while throwing a lot of people off of their land then maybe we have a different set of values. If the UN decided it was ok to give New Jersey to a refugee people, would you think that was a good call? They had no right to give away another people's land. Interestingly in the Bible there is at least one reference to the Philistines which is what I have heard is one way the Palestinians refer to themselves. That sounds like they may have been there a very long time and would definitely be Semites.
@@danbailey5654 the main point is that there was never a Palestine country ,never a Palestine Govt, never a Palestinian people .all this was in the Ottoman Empire, then the British .
you cant change history ,its written in stone
@ Dan Bailey: Not true. There was violent Arab resistance from the beginning. It was spearheaded by Grand Mufti of Jerusalem, Hajj Amin al Husseini. He spread false rumors, instigated riots, and pogroms. He supported the Nazis in the 2nd WW. He broadcasted from Berlin. He recruited Muslim troops for the Nazis. He advocated a final solution for the Jews of Nazi occupied Europe. He was indicted as a war criminal after WWII and fled to Egypt. You also neglect to mention that there was extensive Muslim migration into Palestine during both the Ottoman and British periods.
If a country was birthed the way the state of Israel was then you can understand how Israel garners their support.
What a load of rubbish! The historical misinformation inherent in every sentence of this monologue is so total and complete that to refute it would require a book. There was never a group of people who self-identified as Palestinians, until the middloe of the last century, when it became a political reality that the world was opposed to the constant Arab attacks on Israel, so the idea of a ‘Palestinian people’ who were the victims of ‘Zionist oppressors’.
The true history of the story of this piece of land can be seen in the excellent (and historically accurate) documentary; Whose Land? by Hugh Kitson. The historical records show that until the last decade of the 19th century, there were hardly ANY people in the land, either Jewish or Arabic, far less the supposed hordes of ‘Palestinian’ farmers or land holders. Nobody called themselves ‘Palestinian' in those days. The number of ARABS who were supposedly displaced forcibly by the Jews in 1948 is ridiculous, given that the Jews were far too busy trying to survive the promised Genocide of themselkves by the Arab nations around them, to be rounding up Arabs living in the land.
Please stop presenting lies as if they were true history. It just makes you look both foolish and untrustworthy. You people are like these delusional idiots who claim that a man can have a baby and that women can have penises. You need to learn that facts don’t care about your feelings.
For jew to equate their own people with a ‘master race’, implying that modern day Israel is the moral equivalent oif Nazi Germany, is the most disgusting betrayal in the whole of Jewish history, from Abraham to the present day. There is no betrayal recorded in the Tanakh that is as vile as the statement of that last contributor to this litany of sewage.
This is the land of Israel always has been and always will forever since 3ooo years ago when the Roman catholic was born perid!!!! Only israel 🇮🇱 ❤ 😑 😢 👏 🙄 🇮🇱 ❤ 🇮🇱💪🇮🇱💪🇮🇱💪🇮🇱💪🇮🇱👊🇮🇱👊🇮🇱🤞
Israel is the apple of God's eye and will be here long after the "palestinians " are gone
"Israel is the apple of God's eye"? Based on what, Charles? What do you base that on?
4:24 Palestinian me cananaits idont trust this bro sorry zointes don't have my trust
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There is no such thing as Palestine state perid!!! The real land of the palestineis is Syria 🇸🇾 perid!!!!!👊💪🇮🇱👊👊👊🇮🇱👊
Hate speech.
This is such a gross distortion of history, I don't know where to begin with it. In 1947, the UN partitioned Palestine into two states - one Jewish, one Arab - based on population. If the Arabs had accepted the partition, there would have been no wars, no refugees and the Palestinians would have been celebrating the 75th anniversary of their own independent state. Instead, the Arabs launched a war to destroy Israel and massacre its entire Jewish population. This is what led to the "Nakba". The Arabs conspired to launch another war in 1967 and expelled 800,000 Jews from their country beginning in 1948.
Rubbish. Most Palestinian communities had a temple, a mosque and a church, reflecting their coexistence for generations. The 1947 "offer" was for a minority of foreign-born Jews to receive the majority of long-inhabited land---no sane person would've accepted and it was designed to be refused to enable the Nakba into 1948. The incoming Zionists knew nothing about growing their own food and Palestinians hosted and taught them while Jews kept journals at night describing their hosts with contempt. There was no Arab "conspiracy" in either 48 or 67, both were wholly intentional wars launched brutally by Israelis (haven't you even read "The General's Son" to learn the plans hatched by Israeli generals, in their own government records?). Stop spouting this heroic victim rubbish and achieve "Legitimacy" in the only possible way---by justice and equality (just as Balfour's two paragraphs stated).
@@37Dionysos When the Zionists began settling in Palestine it was a sparsely populated wasteland - mostly swamp and desert. Most of the Palestinians came to the land from other Arab countries in search of jobs as the Jews developed the land. The entire West Bank, Gaza and a third of pre-1967 Israel were offered to the Palestinians for a state. To say that the Israelis started the 48 and 67 wars is plain wrong. As soon as Israel declared its independence, it was attacked by five Arab countries with the publicly stated goal of destroying Israel and annihilating its entire Jewish population. Before Israel fired a shot in 1967 it was surrounded by 250,000 Arab troops, 2000 tanks and 700 fighter and bomber aircraft. But instead of rehashing history, here is the question I propose: how would you have resolved the conflict in 1947 and, given present day realities, how would you resolve it now?
@@clobar70 You have been severely mal-educated and kept like a child in the dark, this is just part of how Zionism erases Palestinians and covers up its own crimes. If you have any desire for justice and real peace, you can start right here with documentary "The Land Speaks Arabic" and begin to see how much you've been lied to. We all have to grow up sometime.
That is exactly True..
@@clobar70 Your responses shows that you are wholly misinformed. All I can say about it is: buy and read the following books: "The Ethnic Cleansing of Palestine" by the Jewish Professor Ilan Pappa and the text "Ben-Gurion's Scandals: How The Haganah and The Mossad Eliminated Jews" by the Arabic-Jewish writer Naeim Giladi.
And... was Palestine really "mostly swamp and desert"? Wrong: Palestine already had a thriving Palestinian community for 2.000 years; they lived there peacefully with other Jews. Until the Zionist-Bolshevik Jews, led by the Jewish Bolshevik David Ben-Gurion, came there and committed genocide against the Palestinians, called the Nakba.