Mistborn's Legacy (FOR NOW)
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- Опубликовано: 23 май 2020
- Mistborn has had great success in the fantasy landscape. What is its legacy now?
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I was NOT ready for that Daniel-flowing-down-the-river scene
Our favorite booktuber is drowning. Help!!!
And those socks with the sunset in the scene right after, they just went with that sunset so well! But yeah, that waterfall had me laughing out loud, literally.
@@TheGeekyHippie Daniel Greene, 'Don't go chasing waterfalls'
He should keep magic mushrooms and editing separate, imho.
@@nuanceblacksywin4868 or maybe mix them more often...
Daniel: *saying a lot of interesting stuff*
Me: *staring at his socks without listening a word he says*
I know, right?!
😂😂😂
Does he have the pants tucked into his socks?😂😂
When I noticed I just kept thinking of my niece who rants how she hates people who do that.
@@iulia5677 sweatpants, no less
On accessiblity, Straf Venture uttering the line "I wonder if she'll scream my name or yours" is the most light handed way of conveying one of the most fucked up sentiments I've ever read. The amount of work just that one line does to set the tone of the series and define Straf as a character, without ever delving into gratuitous description, is astonishing.
When?
@@aguy3129 Well of ascension
When they say the dress code is 'smart casual'
Invisible shirt: optional
I am going to read Mistborn for the first time and I am so excited you guys hyped it so much!
Be careful with the hype. It was presented to me as nothing short of amazing. I really enjoyed the books and the story, but it wasnt able to live up to the ridiculous amount of hype I was smothered with. Go in with an open mind and no expectations and I'm sure you'll love it, it's a very good story.
@@JamesI88 I had the luck of going in pretty much blind a little while ago, and while I was aware of the hype surrounding the books I never looked into it too much. Now I'm halfway through The Hero of Ages and I absolutely love it. So yes, go in as blind as you can and you're in for a great ride.
@@JamesI88 How come you weren't smart enough yourself to take the hype with a grain of salt before you read it? Isn't that just common sense? Not putting a story on an impossible pedestal before even reading it? I thought that was just common sense?
I loved the book, it got me back into reading longer works. But I would also say, go in allowing yourself to like and dislike it.
@@coleton7048 Damn it's not that big of a deal, this is a bit intense.
I’m not mature enough to hear the words “hard” and “soft” this many times.
I have the immense pleasure of being the 69th like on this comment.
140th like 😂
I was really invested in this video, right up untill the moment i saw you wearing socks over your sweatpants. I am both taken aback and amazed.
Same. Totally.
You must not have ever seen a team of wrestlers.. All my teammates did that
One of the things that impressed me about Allomancy was that I understood how it worked despite it being complicated. That's more about Sanderson's skill to communicate complicated ideas in ways that are easy to grasp, and that is why he is so good with his magic systems.
Zinc. That's what his tattoo was. He must have been rioting our enjoyment during this video.
Oh nOOOOO
Doesn’t Zinc soothe emotions though? I think Brass is the one that riots emotions.
I'd love for there to be a mistborn video game
The magic system lends itself perfectly for that format
Imagine a bounty hunter-style antihero RPG where you start with one allomantic or feruchemical power, but when you catch a metalborn you can use hemalurgy to gain new powers or improve your current ones...
@@pali1d That's scary now
@@pali1d That could get super addictive
I often describe Mistborn as heroic fantasy in a grimdark world. Brandon Sanderson often talks about the pressures during that era to write something grimdark, but I think his approach with this series was what eventually helped him stand out amongst the crowd.
Mistborn is usually the recommendation I give my friends who don't read much fantasy. After all, I can't very well have them starting on way of kings, can I?
My first ever fantasy read is Way of kings. Changed my life forever. 👍🏻👍🏻
I always recommend Warbreaker first. It's a great lead in to Mistborn/Way of Kings.
Ryan Flaminiano same here haha
For me its either mistborn or kingkiller. Usually mistborn, because its finished, but I like Kingkiller more, quite a lot more tbh, not to mention that its incredibly accessible for everyone eith the only issue being that it is not finished.
A shame, because the better recommendation, and the better books, are The First Law.
The first mistborn is still my favorite book even with its flaws. I remember just being absolutely gripped in the story and even showing up late to finals because I was too busy reading😅
I love mistborn, though to be fair, The hero of ages emotionally destroyed me forever. But I do live in a pretty foggy/misty area (especially in fall) and every time I cant help but feel like I need to get myself a mistcloak and go outside
Mistborn wasn't my gatewaydrug into Fantasy, that was Eye of the World, when I read it in 1995. The Wheel of Time was also how I got to know Brandon Sanderson. I read the 3 main Mistborn books 1½ year ago, and loved them. I read Brandons annotations on his blog at the same time (so inspiring!) and that became my gatewaydrug into actually starting to write my own novel, which I now have 50k words of :) (sci fi though, and in my own native language, but thats beside the point) I owe alot to Brandon, the Writing Excuses podcast, his fantasy masterclass here on YT and the brilliant writing he has done for both Mistborn and the last three WoT books. I am going to throw myself at The Stormlight Archives soon.
Oh and also - Just discovered your channel today, Daniel Greene! I'm a fan!
Did he intentionally choose the shirt so he could put his head on Vin's body?
I've noticed that if you want to make your story feel more visceral and raw (even brutal) go for hard magic. If you want to go for wonder and mystery in your book, soft magic is more suitable, usually.
"My body's gone!".
"I know what that is. That's an invisibility sweater!".
Use it well
Well, honestly it's a bit hard to hide behind in a pinch. Couldn't have sent a blanket, or maybe a cape? Some panty-hose?
Looks like fancloth to me. He's probably a warder now and trying to show it off.
Funny enough a friend of mine who I loaned my copy of Final Empire to got back to me saying that it captivated him, unlike any other book he's read in a long time.
It's also the same series that got me more into fantasy books generally and led me to series like Wheel of Time and Powder Mage.
Powder Mage, now that's a series that doesn't get as much hype as it deserves.
I totally agree with you on Mistborn being an entrance to adult fantasy. I was one of those people that only read YA fantasy or adult literary fiction for years before picking up The Final Empire in 2015. After that I tore through the rest of Sandersons works then moved onto Robin Hobb, Terry Pratchett, Rothfuss, Jordan etc etc I have a lot to thank the Mistborn series for!
Gave this book to my wife, brother and daughter who either never really read anything or never tried fantasy. They all loved it and it brought us all closer. My favorite series of all time. Still working through wheel of time so we will see :)
Man, I love your editing. So eccentric that it is fun.
I just did a trend search for the word fantasy to see how that coincides with HP and Mistborn. It's basically the same tho it was slightly higher after Mistborn. Now I know this doesn't mean that those exact books are responsible for that spike but I'm willing to bet they are.
Also it's worth noting that Mistborn was published exactly between 2 consecutive HP books.
@@Huebz Haha I read every magazine and I asked everyone alive at the time that's how dedicated I am 😌
I also think Mistborn has a very unique protagonist. A lot of fantasy protagonists tend to fall into the Harry Potter format of very heroic and also somewhat boring. But Vin struggles with mental health issues and is extremely complex but also does not come across as whiny to the reader, and a lot of her personal struggles (whether it's learning to trust and love people or her struggle with her femininity) are just fascinating to read because I've not really seen them done much in fantasy (at least before Mistborn, it's a bit more common now).
Your the reason I went out and got the book set and I loved all 3 books thanks to you then I went on to read the Stormlight Archive I finished book 1 and 2 I'm reading the 3rd one right now and I love them too I really like Brandon Sanderson writing I didn't think I'd ever get through the Stormlight archives with the books being so big but when you get hooked into the story you don't notice the size of the book.
Gonna recommend reading Edgedancer novella. It is a book 2.5 sorta thing situated between book 2 & 3. Also read warbreaker. There's crossovers between that and book 3.
To me The Way of Kings was my first fantasy book. I dont feel like accessibility is necessarily people who read fantasy or not. It more reflects how often do people read.
The more you read from fiction to non-fiction the more likely you are to be able to read larger and more dense books. Not to say that if you dont read much, you cant read those books
Through most of my teenage years I spent my nights re-reading the same books. It was nice. It helped me go to sleep. I picked up Mistborn for a choose-your-own-book summer reading assignment, and it changed my view on reading forever. Since this time last year, I've read the rest of the Mistborn trilogy, Kingkiller chronicles, Five (and a half) Wheel of Time books and other random stories throughout. I would honestly like to thank Brandon Sanderson for showing me the joy in reading once again.
When, in the 1970s, they invented Dungeons and Dragons, the role playing game, a hard magic system was required for there to be any magic user characters.
Perfect timing! I just finished Hero of Ages today. Still processing that ending
Just finished the final empire, and Allomancy is my favorite magic system in fantasy. It’s just so well done. I started watching your channel and now I’ve thrown my self into fantasy books.
Agreed. Don't forget to finish the rest of Sanderson it is all good!
I normally recommend Mistborn to start... the only thing that makes me hesitant to do so is how depressing the world is. I mean.... if you told people it took place ina world where basically everything is covered with ash and there's no greenery, I doubt most people would read it.
Spoilers --- The Final Empire was way more interesting for me than the remaining two installments in era 1 because Atium literally meant money = power. It made for a really cool and deep economical and political system that wasn't there after the collapse of the Final Empire.
I mean, when you can shoot coins like bullets, money literally is power
I also found this very intriguing. The first book had a completely different, self contained feel to it in my opinion that I really liked and wouldnt have minded seeing more fleshed out into it's own trilogy
I think they were all very interesting. Atium was interesting throughout even though it was no longer major economically
Sanderson plays around with magic influencing the economy in other books as well. Probably the most notable are Mistborn and the Stormlight Archive
The editing on this is more than we deserve ❤️
got into this because of your channel. I listened to the graphic audio version. Amazing!!
Just finished Way of the king's... You make me wanna read Mistborn.
Also, I do wanna ride the Brandon wave. I like the magic systems, I wish I could come with ideas like that...
Definitely do ride the Brandon Wave... they are all good. (In my opinion).
I started with WOK too but now I have read his entire catalogue (Even the non-cosmere stuff) and it is literally all good reading.
All of his worlds connect in interesting and meaningful ways. I just had a friend finally realize the scale of the cosmere and now he's hooked on it.
As much as I love Brandon's hard magic systems, and i do always prefer that kind of magic, it would be kind of interesting to see him write a soft magic system.
Yeah he must do it somewhere just to stretch that muscle but I would imagine i would have to be outside of the Cosmere so as to not break the system in play. Though too an extent the Spiritual Realm is Soft magic. We know very little about it and its interplay with the different hard magic systems in the Cosmere. Maybe he will effectively develop it so it can fit this hole. Currently I think it is a soft magic but it is so in the background and unused it is hard to say if it should count at all.
At the start of 2019 I decided to get into reading again and after asking folks on Twitter for fantasy recommendations I was pointed towards Mistborn. I ended up falling in love with it and went on to read consistently again since that point. I found Merphy's channel through her Mistborn review and subsequently found your channel after that! So Mistborn is the reason I'm here typing this comment! Keep up the great work Daniel!
I want to take this chance to thank You so much for turning me in to Mistborn. I was looking for something new to read and went with one of the recommendations and I am soooooo glad I did. Loved the series and LOOOOVE Brandon's style, in part because of his work with the magic system. Can't wait to get further into his other series. So again!! Love your videos and thank you!!
100% Once you find one of his books and discover him you get the treat of and look at all these other great things he has written! MORE!!! Also guess what this guy writes 1-3 books a year..... are you kidding? Nope! Awesome!
The waterfall background cracked me up! :D
Great video by the way.
Hi Daniel... I found your channel recently and I have been reading like crazy for the last couple of months. Thanks for recommending the Mistborn series, it was a delight following Vin on her amazing journey through this crazy world... I highly recommend it.
im almost 30 and have read countless books, and i read the mistborn trillogy for the first time early this year. i cant recall being this invested in a book series. the hero of ages was the first book in my life where i spent 100% of my freetime reading it untill it was finished. even now a few months after finishing it, i still find myself thinking about the ending and my favorite characters and moments. its truly a stunning story.
I read Mistborn for the first time a few weeks ago and was blown away, I’m so mad I didn’t read it sooner!! Definitely have your channel to thank for inspiring me to get around to it. Now to tackle Wheel of Time...
Is wheel of time better than mistborn ? 😁
Mistborn was the first fantasy series I read after Harry Potter. It was my gateway book into things like Eragon, Night Angel, Lightbringer, Dark Materials, NK Jemisin's Inheritance Trilogy, etc
Great stuff!
surely that is what authors hope to achieve
I love Mistborn! My fantasy book group at the library is fairly diverse in terms of our tastes, yet Mistborn is one of those series we all loved. It's just so all-around solid.
Simply LOVE the outfit! LOVE! More of these are needed on the channel
Mistborn is one of my ALL TIME favorite fantasy series, i've read and reread it so many times.
I was not ready for the visuals of this video OMG
ZINC TATTOO!! Hell yeah! I can't believe you just said that, this is about to be my next tattoo and I'm so excited about it. Whoo! Rioters FTW!
Hmmm, I now that he mentions it - I think that I will change my choice for if I could only have one allomantic power to Zinc as well.
Maybe in medieval times or the wild west one of the more flashier pushing or pulling powers would be more desirable. But in modern times the ability to influence others is by far the most useful and practical.
i hope everyone makes about 50 more mistborn books videos, i havent seen enough about it yet.
Just acquired myself a copy. I plan on reading Mistborn this weekend.
I really loved the angle Mistborn played with faith and Religion, it helped make peace with my own faith. In fact as I write this I am just about to finish the final book. Its been an amazing ride 😊
Professor Daniel back with another fantasy lecture ;)
Great short talk on mistborn. I am inclined to agree. However, I had to rewind the video at the waterfall part to catch what you said lol. I was apparently distracted with "NO DANIEL, DON'T FALL!" haha
Where's the love for ferruchemy?! I know you didn't enjoy era 2 as much as I did but Wax and Wayne really show the power of that other hard magic system...
I guess that is just him keeping it short same for hemalurgy.
You are getting so good at this man
Hi!
I have been reading fantasy (YA & adult) for quite some time. But I have just now finished reading Mistborn. And I can see where all the love for the series comes from, and I have really loved the trilogy. I find that it is really accessible for everyone and I get the new marketing as YA because of Vin and her character arc.
I can only agree with your thoughts.
I really love your channel! Greetings from Spain!
I read mistborn thanks to Daniel... Now I am at the point where I finished everything released in the cosmere! I'm now reading wheel of time while waiting for Rhythm of War. I'm starting Shadow Rising after supper haha. Daniel, you changed my life, thank you for that!
I've got a lot to owe to Mistborn, when i was around 13 i wanted to get into fantasy and i was looking at lists of 'good' fantasy books to read and i kept coming back to mistborn so eventually i picked it up and read it, then the rest of the trilogy, then i picked up most of the cosmere books and over the course of the summer read most of them
Mistborn was my first Brandon Sanderson and also my first high fantasy I have read , everything about it is excellent , it made me the fantasy reader I am today
Mistborn was the book that, for me, showed me what I love about fantasy. I remember finishing Hero of Ages and just sitting there in wonder because wow fantasy is awesome. If Harry Potter and Twilight was my introduction to YA, Mistborn was my introduction to FANTASY.
While Mistborn was not the series to get me into fantasy, it was the one that pulled me out of "the classics." and rekindled my love of reading as a whole. While in my head during the first book i was telling myself "okay i'll stop and do something else after this," I went on to do nothing of the sort. Again with the third book. Now i'm Mistborn era 1, Way of Kings, Elantris, Snapshot and both Skyward books down and seriously considering picking up Warbreaker off of my shelf. I met Sanderson in London 6 or so years back now to get my copy of Final Empire signed. Very down to Earth but it completely skipped my mind to ask him how you pronounce Sazed lol.
Michael Kramer, the audiobook narrator and also personal friend of Sanderson's, pronounces it "say-zid," if that helps.
@@pollywoggg Ah thank you. I always said it "Sah-Zed" in my head.
When he talks online Brandon says 'Say-zed' but one of the cool things about Brandon is he says the way you say it is the way it is for you. I personally use 'say zzd' liked tazed with a tazer.
Mistborn was like a 2nd introduction to Fantasy books for me. I certainly grew up playing Fantasy Games, and I'd read Skulduggery Pleasant, Witcher and Game of Thrones. But when I was recommended Mistborn and tried it, I suddenly wanted everything by Brandon Sanderson because I loved the writing style. So I read all of Mistborn, Elantris, Arcanum Unbounded. I'm currently reading Stormlight Archives and have plans to read both The First Law Trilogy, Wheel of Time and Powder Mage as previously recommended by you. It was a total eye opener all started by Mistborn
9:30 i couldn't agree more🙌🏻. Because of mistborn i started reading other fantasy novels
This new fun editing is really top notch.
Started the final empire 3 weeks ago and tonight I just finished the trilogy. Haven’t read fiction let alone fantasy since early high school...DAMN I’ve been missing out
p.s started reading again after stumbling upon your channel, thanks :)
Love your socks btw. I might try and pick up Mistborn again, I read the first one years ago but couldn’t continue....
i did the whole series in audio books but i still loved the series ..........and yes its mental popping to think of all the mixes on alchemy.listen to the end of an audio book it will give you all the mixes and reason why they work .mind blowing stuff
I tend to leave your videos on to just listen to, only glancing at them every once in a while - and boy when I noticed your shirt you had my full attention xD
.... and that's why he did it :)
I bought Mistborn in paperback from the “Books that don’t circuit anymore” section of my library for 50 cents.
To this day one of my favorite books and hard magic systems.
Mistborn was my second Sanderson read. I was introduced to him through his completion of the Wheel of Time. He did so well with that that I was interested to see what he did on his own. After finishing the Mistborn series, I was clamoring to find something else written by Sanderson. Enter The Way of Kings and I'm hooked. Now, I'm in the middle of my third Mistborn reread directly after my second Stormlight Archive reread (had to refresh myself for Rhythm of War) and it's amazing how much Sanderson has matured as a writer. While Mistborn will always be one of my favorite stories, it lacks the depth and emotional gut-punch that seems to be so common with the Stormlight Archive.
How does mistborn and stormlight compare to wheel of time.Can I read wheel of time after them ???? Is it worth ???? Hope u answer 😄
@@noname3609 Wheel of Time is completely different because it was mostly written by a different author. Robert Jordan started the series and died before he could complete the series. His widow hired Brandon Sanderson to complete the last couple of books. You can definitely tell where in the series a new author picks up, but from what I understand, most of the story was at least outlined before Sanderson picked it up. It's definitely worth a read as Jordan was a great author as well. Since it sits outside the Mistborn/Stormlight universe, it doesn't have anything to do with those stories and could be read at any time.
So psyched for the video talking about bad vs soft magic systems!
I just love it when RUclipsrs use video game sound effects in their videos. ;)
I've nearly finished my re-read of final empire. I only finished it last year but damn I love this series so much!
Mistborn is quite big in the Brazilian fantasy circle and I'm happy because that means that Stormlight Archive might have a chance to be translated.
I haven't read the series but I know people who got into fantasy because of it and that's great. Daniel, can you do a recommendation video on less known fantasy titles in the future?
He has done a few already if you check his back catalogue
I agree 100%, I stepped into the fantasy world way more after reading Mistborn. I even gifted the era one trilogy to a friend who's more into sci-fi, hoping he gets that urge to read more fantasy afterwards.
I absolutely agree with you about readers who continued to go on and read more fantasy! I did read Harry Potter back when I was in Elementary school, but I never dove into the genre. In fact- I became one of those people who ONLY reads Harry Potter over and over again. UNTIL, my post college years where I finally decided to branch out and read Mistborn. I blasted right through the series, Wax and wayne, discovered stormlight archive and went on to read: Powdermage, Dark Elf Trilogy (Drizzt), The Black Prism, The Last Wish, Stormfront, Kings of the Wyld, Rage of Dragons, and several others that I have started but not finished like Lies of Locke Lamora. I love getting back into reading, Mistborn definitely helped, but so did this channel. Thanks Daniel!
Great comment that is what authors hope for that it sparks something you love!
My only regret while reading the cosmere is not starting with Mistborn. I started with Stormlight Archive, and while it is admittedly a more professionally done series, just because Brandon Sanderon had a lot more experience under his belt while writing it, Mustborn had introduced so many more mechanics to the cosmere that I am still waiting for in the Stormlight Archive. Ever since reading it I've understood what is occurring in every cosmere book I've read so far with much greater depth.
Really interesting point. I started with Stormlight too. It is true that the more books I read the better I understand the other ones, because of the ongoing rules and themes of investiture. Loved this comment and I think it is a very valid one.
So, I'm a writer. Specifically, a grad student at OU who doesn't want to publish anything quite yet, save a couple short stories.
My thoughts on Mistborn's legacy are overall positive. I agree that Sanderson popularizing hard magic is, overall, a good thing.
And I am a much bigger fan of hard magic systems too. But I'm not a big fan of Mistborn. I'm trying really hard to get through the series as a writer because I agree it is a cornerstone of modern fantasy and it has some great writing in it. Still, the books are not turning me into a fan.
So... what's my gripe?
I feel that the hard magic in Mistborn has been more contradictory in tone rather than contrast in tone. Let me explain that a bit. Let's use an example: I feel like a hard magic system in Game of Thrones would be a compliment to tone. You would know what magic does, and you know when it will not help a character get out of a tight spot. In a story like GoT, having a hard magic system could really ratchet up the stakes and put a reader on the edge of their seat. Because the character deaths dolled out by the author were capricious and near-random, having magic that has known limits could really build up the stakes.
Hopefully you're following that with me. So that's a hard magic system complementing a story's tone. What is a good contrast? I'd argue a good contrast would be the softer magic Got had really slapped, given the tone. There were times when the magic system seemed to be a cop-out. Like character death being reversed in such a grim story. But I'd also argue that death reversal didn't lack a thematical quality. It did contrast parts of the tone, but it fit overall. (Gonna put a disclaimer here that I'm not a big GoT fan either but the series is a great study in thematic consistency.) So, to say outside the disclaimer, having softer rules like those around Daenerys Targaryen made the reader wonder if she'd have powers and if her brother would have powers too. The discovery and wonder there really worked.
Now onto the meat of the argument. How does Mistborn lack this quality? Well, you can skip the action scenes and not lose anything.
I know because I often do. Or at least I zone out. I get distracted and look for what's boring me out of my mind.
The stakes of fights are most often life or death. And in a story like Mistborn where all the death has to be martyrdom or the end of a side character--no conflict in the story has any teeth. You can look at how far you are into a book and know that any confrontation is toothless because we haven't gotten to the dark moment yet. So, while the magic system is harder than a diamond, the rules of conflict are baby kitten soft.
I mentioned I'm a writer not to promote myself. And I'm not about to plug my stories (unless you wanna talk about a discussion with a no-name staving artist *wink wink*). No, I'm not here to promote myself. I mention I'm a writer, and a grad student because my life has been put into the study of story mechanics. I've seen how the magic works behind the curtain, and sometimes that makes a story all the better for me to read. I'm in this line of work because I love stories. Though stories that rely way too much on the fundamentals tend to fall a little flat for me.
I know hard magic can be a great remedy for that. I have no doubts that the stories I love which have harder magic were likely inspired in part by Sanderson.
So again, much love to him.
But I don't know how well Mistborn really did to take full advantage of the hard magic system Sanderson made. I'm looking forward to getting to the later books which I've been told really slap.
(Side note: it's my job to use new slang poorly until it dies, so the old slang can once again rule the empire of words.)
I feel like Mistborn has a massive potential appeal to people who are fans of anime.
Hard magic systems in particular seem to remind me of shonen anime like Yu-Gi-Oh and My Hero Academia.
I was just saying to myself that mistborn if properly adapted would be a really good anime.
@@codyboddy5360 Truth be told, I think most fantasy/sci-fi would be better adapted if animated. Yeah, you get stuff like Game of Thrones and whatnot every once in a while, but animation makes it SOOOO much easier and less risky for studios.
I read the MB series for the first time after finding out BS was finishing Wheel of Time after Jordan's death. By the time I was done with Hero of Ages I knew WoT was in good hands. I love the MB series
Im finally picking mistborn up this month from yours, and countless other recommendations. I haven't even opened the first book yet and i already love it
LOL
Mistborn is most definitely a gateway book. An amazing first stepping stone in what is a large and expansive genre
Could not care less about hard or soft magic systems, what pulled me into The Final Empire was the concept of the baddie winning, the heist and the characters. I appreciate a well executed magic system and magic battles are fun but they're just flavour to me unless they go the LOTR or WoT route and directly influence character. I come to fantasy for the alternate universe, the concepts and the characters.
Great comment and I think Sanderson hits on all of those his word building and concepts are SO good. I love how in the books you can walk outside and just by describing the food, the weather or the street I can know which of Sanderson's worlds I am on. Love the idea of the hero failing and the baddie winning and the world NOT ending. Instead he sets up a not very nice Empire but one that works and stands the test of time. Not just if I win I will blow everything up (Evil laugh).
Anyway just wanted to say I enjoyed the comment and I agree with it.
I usually read YA fantasy books and Mistborn was the first adult fantasy story that I read a few months ago and the one that made me want to read more adult fantasy ^^
Perfect example of why it is considered accessible.
I think you are spot on about Mistborn strikes a perfect balance that makes it accessible and engaging for many different kinds of audiences at once without ever feeling watered down. For me at least, a hard magic system like in Mistorb or Avatar The Last Airbender isn't really about stakes so much as it is interesting to learn about and think about. Especially in a system where not everyone has the same powers. There is certainly more weight to clever use of the rules in the text, and the ways they get expanded in the Wax and Wayne books. But while such a strict system works for a fantasy book about assassins, it would make telling Harry Potter difficult. At least for me personally, fantasy elements in stories don't have to work to painstaking build logic insofar as they have to not break it. In Star Wars, I don't need a chart explaining the only 16 Force abilities that can possibly exist, but the more the story bends for convenience the more I'll be forced to ask "Why didn't Y do X before?" I think my earliest example of just being taken out of a story by his is hilariously ... Dragonball Z for its out of control power creep where there are eventually 1000 dudes more powerful than the guy who could blow up a planet with his pinky so now nothing means anything in this world.
For me, I Snapped after I finished reading The ways of kings and after that I have read more and more fantasy books as time goes by.
I've always found Mistborn a weird book to recommend.
I love the Cosmere (currently on re-read/listen 4 of WoR) but I always hesitated about which book/series to get people in on. Stormlight is very long and has one of the most staggered beginnings I've ever read. Elantris is good but slow (IMO due to the partially forced triad system). Warbreaker is possibly a good choice but its a part of 1 of 2 where the second book hasn't been written yet (Gif meh Nightblood plz!). White Sand and the short stories are interesting but only really for those who like the Cosmere and want to find more of the secrets. So we're left with Mistborn.
Mistborn was my first cosmere and I read through the first book in a frenzy but then stagnated on the second one (iirc i actually went off and read tWoK and WoR before realising it was all one cosmere and came back to finish it). At the time I don't think there was any particular reason why I dropped WoA, I just kinda did. So Era 1 has always a weird place in my head (not Era 2, that's the real good stuff). Mistborn feels a little depressing to read: everything is ash, God either hates you or just doesn't care and men with metal eyes want to kill you. But the character's never felt depressed (partly that was just Kelsier doing #kelsierthings) so it always felt like a weird clash. So Mistborn took up this place in my head as a really well written, good story but I could never bring myself to feel the same way about it that I did about Stormlight or Era 2.
I’m kinda the complete opposite in regards to the two eras of mistborn. I love era 1, and I like era 2, but era 2 isn’t nearly as good as the first era in my opinion.
I just discovered Sanderson this year and finished up with all of the Mistborn series that's out and have moved on to the Stormlight Archive.
I absolutely love Mistoborn. The magic system was fantastic and I really loved how it defined everything, but still left room for mystery as there were things the characters discovered over time about how it worked.
Agree on every point. Mistborn led me to books like The Black Prism, Stormlight Archives, and Foundryside, all of which I ADORE because Sanderson made me appreciate a good old hard magic system!
The Final Empire was my first every fantasy read. But I'd hate for it to become to hyped up, I went in not expecting much and then was blown away. I think it's best way to read it!
I'm really struggling to finding another fantasy author as easy to read as Sanderson, I don't find their righting quite as vivid and easy to picture or the characters quite as fleshed out!
Definitely my G.O.A.T! 😆
I agree he is excellent. Maybe consider someone like Brent Weeks. If you like older style fantasy I loved Weis and Hickman and David Eddings but many modern readers for various reasons find them lacking in the current climate.
@@Trisjack20 I just started The Poppy War because of one of Daniels videos and I found that as easy to read even with all of the history(which I tent to struggle with😅). I'll definitely check out those authors, thanks!!
I think you have a point about Harry Potter and Mistborn as being entry-points to fantasy overall. I read Harry Potter years ago, but it did not inspire me to read more works in the genre in the same way that Mistborn/Stormlight did. It's like I have had a reading list for the past 3 years (when I first read The Way of Kings) and it seems to only get longer after each book I read.
I don't know if this is mentioned a lot of not but the way that straff venture and ashweather cett are written is absolutely phenomenal and makes you hate them so much
I just started reading mistborn!
I had to restart twice..I got distracted by the socks! 😂 glad there’s no test after
I'm super late to this discussion but I just read Mistborn for the first time and have been looking for people that have the same issues with it that I do. I do think that it has a super low barrier to entry as a reader, which is why I think it's so popular. It does what fantasy does best without bogging it down with what fantasy does worst. That being said, I have some real reservations about the world building and character development that are extra frustrating because of how much I enjoyed the book. Just have to get that off my chest.
Mistborn is so popular in Brazil right now that my friend cannot get a copy of The Final Empire to save her life!!
She’s been looking for it online for a month now, and its just not there.
Can’t wait for stormlight to be translated! That is going to blow up just as fast.
💜love the socks💜 I’m starting the series in June!
My first fantasy book was mistborn and exactly how you said it daniel I kept on reading all the cosmere, now I’ve read tolkien and the witcher and I think my next goal will be the wheel of time
Just finished mistborn last month as my first foray into Sanderson. Needless to say I’m super excited to continue reading Sanderson, especially the cosmere
It is ALL GOOD! Welcome to the Cosmere. Stormlight Archive is particularly good but I would read Warbreaker and Elantris first just to get a wider grounding. Just a thought. The novella The Emperor's Soul is the best piece of shorter fiction I have ever read.