you know the people making it come from families with half a million in assets at least too lol. they could probably feed his entire family for 5 years on a single month of their pay..
Alfonso already knew that there could be consequences when he chose to violate his contract by trying to help DW, therefore, DW aren't obligated to compensate him.
@@gen24677 Of course, nobody is saying they are obligated to. But it wouldn't cost DW much at all to compensate him, if not give more for such a valuable insight and interview.
@@gen24677 If that contract even holds up in court, if looked at closely. It might be, that the employer is liable for damages due to a fraudulent contract.
one thing i've learned from being a general laborer (the same type of worker the men in this video are) for almost two decades now is - trying to cut corners and get away with as much abuse to workers as possible is always to be expected. never expect your government will take notice or care about it either. they will look away until the populace is ready to revolt and murder the rich folks and even then they will continue doing as much harm as they can get away with
"The way of the Dao is to for those with much to give to those that have little. Mans way is different, he takes from those that have little and gives to those that have too much." Lao Tzu
This documentary shows that my job I complain about daily is a dream compared to what those workers go through daily and 6 days a week. Mad respect to them all 👏👍🙏✊️💪
Great so can say many ppl working low pay jobs in the West, so we should just show this to them(me too), when we complain that we have "a ok"...lol:( Like they , in many cases corporations treat workers like we did miners in 1800's... I am amazed while special interest is making on so many issues, in some cases pushes those issues too far, in my opinion. This kind of real world "wrongs" we just can't seem to fix...:(
This Method with the Filds is not good for the World ,that makes here more as one Psychologic Disorder Visible. That is for the most People of the World not so good Visible how Big that Problem so is, or how many Problems that in the Future brings. That what the World here needs is more Food Forrests or more other better Symbiosis Methods. That or so a Fild is for us O.k, but for the Nature is that more as bad or worse,then taht takes here Freedom.
It's the same in New Zealand. Growers couldn't get locals to work for them to the point that growers threatened the government to not harvest their export crop. So the government allowed growers to bring in workers from overseas during lockdown, for low wages, long hours, heavy workloads, and substandard shared accomodation.
Labor exploitation. Happens in the States, happens all over the world. How? Why? Bec the governments turn a blind eye to it while illegal immigrants and undocumented workers accept it in exchange for being able to work and live in a foreign country that they perceive to be economically better than their country of origin.
I've picked fruit in NZ. The pay isn't amazing, but it's enough and the working conditions are perfectly acceptable. Sure it's physical work, but that doesn't make it illegal. The accomodation varies from job to job, but it's no worse than some private houses or apartments I've lived in around the world. Also foreign workers have been picking crops in NZ for years already, decades even. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill and it would be a stretch to compare whats happening in NZ with the exploitation in Brazil.
Anyone else feels rage towards Ibiapaba Netto? The guy that has no idea whats like to work there on the field but he can represent the companies and can speak for the workers he never saw or met.
oranges are juiced with the skin on ..so anyone who buys and drinks bottled/boxed orange juice also drinks pesticides. it unfortunatelly applies almost to every fruit and vegetable and cereals ..as for the working conditions, it also applies to all workers accross the agro industry ..
That's quite unfortunate. But I think the European Union still maintains high standards regarding food, food packaging, and the amount and type of pesticides used as compared to say the United States. Nevertheless, there is much we don't know about food produced and packaged on an industrial scale.
When I worked in the Amazon warehouse during Christmas periods, I came across people from all over the world, who actually liked the job and said it was good working conditions compared to back home
Here in Southern California we have sidewalks littered with able bodies who waste away on drugs and alcohol. I have so much respect for agriculture workers.
"Here in Southern California we have sidewalks littered with able bodies who waste away on drugs and alcohol. I have so much respect for agriculture workers." If there is anything this documentary would have taught you with its demonstration of how these workers face firing for the flimsiest of reasons, it's that there is only a single step between being a worker exploited by a company and ending up homeless on the street. Maybe you should try and engage a few more braincells in analysing the system that produces both of these categories of people, before attacking the latter for their misfortune. Disgusting.
here in crete the oranges are mostly left to fall to the floor as its not financially worth picking, transporting and selling them. many owners are ripping perfectly good, healthy trees up in favour of avocados because thats the latest trend and they can make a bit more money from them. its so sad. even the cheeses in the supermarkets (not local butchers etc) say they are made in crete but in reality the milk is bought from the balkans as its cheaper.
@@aryaaswale7316 avocados come at the cost of available water. I'm a capitalist through and through, but it's better to have long term vision rather than thinking of fast profits
@@krystalklear7793 is it clear after the narrator stated that "...Alfonso has violated his contract..." at around 5:40mins and "...banned from working for 11 days...". Have you got any actual experience with unregistered farm workers because i have. I used to work for 50 pence per hr , 12 hr shift in sweltering hot weather picking and wasking veggies and i did it just to make extra money for my holidays. Sadly for most people that worked in the fields with me, it was the only source of income. Man, ive seen people wearing shoes with holes in soles and all around in 2000s...poor af. Ad this is how they are treated in the fields too. Kids help their moms to hit picking targets and they cant even complain because if they do they out tf same day.
I was cutting up Oranges in Florida when i noticed the box was from California. I said WTF, the boss says, we send ours to them...Now thats a hidden cost right there.
8 hrs a day, company transport, wage better than average for zero qualifications, work in the outdoors sounds like a good deal. I think the reporter is trying for a story where there is non. Life can get a lot worse.
I do not find orange juice or any juice as essential necessity for my life. I gave up all juices, yes even those fruits smoothies, many years ago. They are extremely expensive and full of the sugar. Plus, all packed in plastic bottles 🤦♀️I replaced it with tap water and teas. Does not really miss it. As long as we all desired ,,fresh,, and ,,cheap,, juices we will support creation of jobs with such atrocious working condition.
But the alternative is no job - all civilisations starts like this. You can`t go from doing nothing to enter a top notch job like we have in the market capitalistic technologically and culturally advanced West. 40 years ago I got 3 euros an hour as an apple picker in a Danish plantation. That was nice, but those wages are only possible in a highly developed economy.
Us humans are a really threat both to the planet and ourselves. Great documentary. The same goes for basically everything imported from much poorer countries (coca, coffee). The workes get unfortunately exploited. Who’s to blame? Farmers? Suppliers? Supermarkets? Politicians?
i look at things differently, i will never understand greed. when i look at a rich person i think that person is good for the economy, i like people to be rich cause they prove their competence and therefore deserve it but i dont understand when these people make their employees suffer just to make a little more on their bottom line. Dont you want your workers to love you and respect you instead of cursing you at every moment?
These people did not gert rich by being nice and not gaming the system. Most of the time there is serious tax evasion and tax avoidance going on. All the while the workers who bring in the funds to make them rich are treated like shit and as a disposable commodity. Like oranges. When the climate changes to a point where wars are started over water we will see a change. Till then its bleed your workers dry and hope you die before the climate change really sets in and fucks up world food supplies.
And we all know the final destination of those products ! Please know that when you are drinking your orange juice without any qualms someone has endured major suffering for this juice to be available on the shelves.
One thing I've noticed about the quality of the oranges I come across in the supermarket nowadays is they most often taste very sweet, especially those grown in Florida. I found those that come from South Africa more natural tasting and not so pricey.
I live in Cape Town, South Africa, and the Western Cape has a mediterranean climate so lots of citrus fruit varieties are grown here. Our fresh produce is delicious and safe to eat. Many people, even some of my neighbours, grow edible products in small raised boxes or anywhere in the garden, like tomatoes, lettuce and many have fruit trees even if we live in suburbia. Oranges trees were first planted and brought here by the Dutch in the 1600's. In fact on a farm called Hexriver in the Olifants River valley an original seedling tree is still producing oranges a few hundred years after being planted there. It has been declared a national monument. It is said that oranges from the Olifants River valley are the best of the best.
Labor exploitation. Happens in the States, happens all over the world. How? Why? Bec the governments turn a blind eye to it while illegal immigrants and undocumented workers accept it in exchange for being able to work and live in a foreign country that they perceive to be economically better than their country of origin. In the States, even those who work as caregivers, dishwashers, laborers, household help, nannies are illegal immigrants or undocumented workers who are exploited by their employers.
I would say most fruit/vegetable jobs aren't easy. Pruning, thinning, harvest, etc. Further down the line is sorting and packing. It takes practice to be good at it. Many people, from Samoa for example, go to New Zealand or Australia to work in this area specifically. It pays good money, compared to the wages at their home. I guess this type of relationship between humans (someone is doing something tedious, while other enjoy the results) has been around since a long time. The human race still needs to learn a lot.
They should have a track with bins that move as they are filled, so the workers aren't wasting time and energy moving them. I think that would be a great time saver
The amount of corruption and flat-out mistreatment of less fortunate people in Africa and South America is truly mind-boggling. I feel for the people, they're hopeless.
They can help as much as we can. How about we make people stop voting for neoliberal blood suckers who represent elite interests? Yes, that's all of Brazilian politics, meaning we need to create legitimate versions of either a far-left or a far-right movement. Since I am gay and autistic, I go for the far-left.
It's the same or even worse in Europe or the US, even on this channel there're many stories about european and US companies that contribute directly or indirectly to activities that rely on labor exploitation, this is not only a problem of developing countries.
I don't understand foreigners who think southern Brazilians and paulistas are more civilized. They vote for Bolsonaro. This happens because Brazil still has a slavery mentality and they see Northeastern Brazilians with that mindset. Hell, even poor white people from their own city, but specially the Northeasterners. A lot of hate speech goes around every year as they vote for left-wing candidates en masse in there.
Picking fruit, no matter what country you are in is difficult hard labor long hours. Florida to Michigan and California. Cherry pickers ended picking cherries by hand. But if your 70 or so you may have eaten fruit I have picked. Take care. Stay safe.
It takes sooooo many oranges to make one glass. It’s disgusting how slave labor exist in other countries. The worker suffers while the desk jockey banks.
The global orange juice market was equal to 27.65 billion USD (calculated in retail prices) in 2014. Until 2024, the juice market in the world is forecast to reach 32.04 billion USD (in retail prices), thus increasing at a CAGR of 1.82% per annum for the period 2019-2024. 2:34 Source: Business Wire
All fruits are own-price elastic with the exception of bananas which are slightly inelastic, but not significantly so. Apples, pears, and bananas are expenditure inelastic while oranges, grapes and other fruits are expenditure elastic. Elasticity is a general measure of the responsiveness of an economic variable in response to a change in another economic variable. The three major forms of elasticity are price elasticity of demand, cross-price elasticity of demand, and income elasticity of demand. Sources: CFI; CORE ac uk
Everyday stay with Documentary of DW is a extremely happy time, because I can relax myself and gain some view of the planet. Also I can learn English speaking . 42mins is a very priceless investment for myself. And also thank you, DW TEAM.
I wouldn't worry a lot about Afonso. If the company did anything illegal or made him sign an abusive contract or any other misconduct that guarantees a win at the court, there will be lawyers queuing at his door to defend him for free + 30% of what they obtain at the end. And this works surprizingly well.
BY Abu Saeid and Maruf Ahmed - November 3rd, 2021 Citrus Fruits: Nutritive Value and Value-Added Products Nowadays, citrus pulp/pomace, seed, and peel are used for various commercially valuable products such as food ingredients, pectin, essential oils, enzyme production, a natural antioxidant, and packaging film formation. 38:18 Source: IntechOpen
The vitamin C in oranges helps your body in lots of ways: Protects your cells from damage. Helps your body make collagen, a protein that heals wounds and gives you smoother skin. Makes it easier to absorb iron to fight anemia. Studies have shown that fiber helps the body maintain digestive health and may lower your risk of conditions like diabetes, heart disease, and some types of cancer. Source: WebMD
In addition to worker exploitation, the fundamental problem with orange juice is that too many calories slip down your throat so easily. Much smarter/healthier to simply eat an orange if that is what you want. I am fully aware that juice oranges are not the same as eating oranges.
What I don't understand is what's wrong with us humans. Oranges are there, eat it, throw the body on the floor and it decays naturally within few weeks. But, we expend energy to put them in bottles, plastics for that matter which will decay in centuries constituting nuisance just for profits... Really?! What's wrong with us?!
What most people don't realize is how interconnected everything is. The working conditions are one thing, and no doubt we are all against the abuse of these workers. But if the workers had to collect half the oranges only, for the same salary, and did it in better working conditions, and all procedures were as they should be, the orange juice would easily cost twice as much... And the same goes with every goods grown/produced in 3rd world countries. No doubt it is great to be an idealist, but for the amazing life we have here in the "Western world", with an ability to purchase so many things from our wages, someone on the other side of the planet always has to pay the price... Sadly that's the way it has always been, and always will be, until a breaking point arrives--which may be sooner than we think.
Great documentary. It made me remember of the Grapes of Wrath by Jonh Steinbeck. In my opinion, pesticides are the biggest concern, and safety precautions should be put in place and followed. Spraying pesticides should be scheduled on a day when orange pickers are not working or vice versa. In other words, workers should take that day off because of the "Spraying Pesticides Day." A much healthier fruit with no pesticides would be much better utilizing natural pests control like the wasps in that laboratory. But then orange pickers could get stung while working. There's indeed a lot of challenges ahead. Better work conditions with safety are always welcomed.
Those wasps are harmless to humans. And you are completely right. The companies need to take care of their people and their products with more sense and ethics!
I grew up on a fruit farm in NY. Apples and pears. We used 20' ladders on the big apple trees. Very similar to orange tree, same picking bags, ladders. Falling off a ladder was really hard. I never saw a case. It's because the tree is like a bush and the ladder leans against the whole side. Impossible for it to fall or slide. Even if you did fall off it's hard for you to fall straight down, you have to go through a bunch of leaves and branches. 3:15 "A bag weighs 27 kg (80 lbs). That's too much." It is heavy, but you're not required to fill a bag. So it that's too heavy, then don't fill it so much. Yes that would slow you down and you earn less. But yeah, it's a very hard low paying job. Not many can last into old age. At some point a picker is going to have to find another type of job. Better to do that before even starting.
A good practice of any business is to give back to your community and enhance it. Billions are made and the community does not shine. Crooks are what these companies are and not businesses.
There is a joke in Malaysia and Singapore saying if you aren't smart but you would still like to earn well, you could move to Australia to pluck fruits and I'm studying in Germany now and I was shocked when my German friend told me his brother moved from Germany to Austrlia to pluck fruits. His brother lives alone and enjoys Australia.
American actress Julia Louis-Dreyfus, a star of the Seinfeld Show is related by blood to the Dreyfus Corporation founder, Leopold Dreyfus. If you see her eating at Katz Deli in New York City perhaps you could politely ask her to make inquiries in regard to the Brazilian citrus workers.
Such documentaries and such ways truly makes one ponder what slaves went through for centuries nonstop! Any society that has tasted the practice of slavery finds it difficult to abandon the ways completely but just reforms the practice to suit the era!
Since DW want hidden side of everything. I want a documentary on how much DW staffers especially those who do menial jobs(sweepers, cleaners, drivers,,, ) are getting paid to find hidden cost of making documentary.
I have a countrymen who work in Australia as a fruit picker the company were not giving them any personal gear but they only provide themselves, the good thing is they're paid by box and they're not allowed to carry more than what your body not allowed because there's a tractor to carry the fruit, $70 per box and the couple earned $3,200 a day, it depends upon the kind of they're picking of because some of the fruits are seasonal but they pick all year round, in that kind of company laborers suffers labor injustice what they do to the company, I think they have no benefits to enjoy after all
During the marketing year 2020/2021, Brazil was the leading global orange producer, with production volume of 14.7 million metric tons. That year, the global production volume of fresh oranges amounted to about 47.45 million metric tons. 12:34 China is the top country by citrus fruit production in the world. As of 2020, citrus fruit production in China was 44.6 million tonnes that accounts for 28.07% of the world's citrus fruit production. The top 5 countries (others are Brazil, India, Mexico, and the United States of America) account for 59.15% of it. Sources: Statista; Knoema
In the United States, top orange growing states are California, Florida, Texas, and Arizona. Florida continues to sustain major losses due to citrus greening; the disease has not materially affected California groves as of yet. 1:07 to 1:14 Sunshine State production is divided between Valencia and Navel orange varieties. Source: Blue Book Services
The harsh truth about these kind of system.. if they raise their minimum wage.. or increase expenditure for the workers.. the price is than transfer to the customers.. the backlash is that customer might don't like it and pick another kind of brand.. or drink less juice overall.. as long there is no cap on how much profit a company can make, this will keep happening... BUT if they do make a cap, it raise even more problems down the line.. it is harsh but it is reality..
Are there not 3rd party evaluations and certifications for working conditions in place for these farms? Something like SEDEX or other globally accepted organizations that audit and interview their working conditions?
Brazil is heavily oligarchic as a country that used to be a slave colonial society. Elite interests being put into question is seen as communist bullshit and a threat. Our society is conservative and invested into such backward notions. So they will never be obliged by law to disclose anything, and regulation will stay sparse even though on paper our working rights are wonderful. They're just used to make it harder for people to set up small businesses with endless bureaucracy. Vicious cycle. Terrible country.
if the picker is poor, if the farmer doesn't do enough money, then who is putting all the money in his pocket? We pay about 5$ for a 2L of Orange Juice that taste like battery acid...
Did you know owing to modern pesticide farming techniques to get the same nutritional intake as your grandmother eating an orange you'd now have to eat over 6 oranges to get the same nutrition 😔
They're just as nutritional depending on the soil, this is more so due to soils being exhausted. The real problem of pesticides and herbicides is them being poison both at an acute and a chronic dose.
I hope Alfonso was paid by the documentary makers cuz he lost 11 days of wages, that's a significant amount for manual laborers.
i thought the same thing
you know the people making it come from families with half a million in assets at least too lol. they could probably feed his entire family for 5 years on a single month of their pay..
I thought the same thing immediately
I really hope so
They are a professional channel so I guess yeah they compensated him.
His wage is so bad they should pay him 1 year worth.
6:11 I hope DW compensated Alfonso for his loss since it doesn't mean a lot to DW, but it means significantly more to him and his family
Alfonso already knew that there could be consequences when he chose to violate his contract by trying to help DW, therefore, DW aren't obligated to compensate him.
@@gen24677 it's not about obligation, it's about ethics. A small amount of money that DW won't even notice could change his family's lives.
@@gen24677 Of course, nobody is saying they are obligated to. But it wouldn't cost DW much at all to compensate him, if not give more for such a valuable insight and interview.
@@Senju1k13 DW normaly dont Produce Docs. They buy them. This is from a German Public Broadcaster.(WDR)
@@gen24677 If that contract even holds up in court, if looked at closely.
It might be, that the employer is liable for damages due to a fraudulent contract.
I hope they compensated Alfonso for his loss.
No they don't!!
DW are bad people
I was thinking the exact same thing.
They (prbly) didn't.
Chen CO, Rasmussen H, Kamil A, Du P, Blumberg JB. Orange Pomace Improves Postprandial Glycemic Responses: An Acute, Randomized, Placebo-Controlled, Double-Blind, Crossover Trial in Overweight Men. Nutrients. 2017 Feb 13;9(2):130. doi: 10.3390/nu9020130. PMID: 28208806; PMCID: PMC5331561.
Source: NIH
Did they
one thing i've learned from being a general laborer (the same type of worker the men in this video are) for almost two decades now is - trying to cut corners and get away with as much abuse to workers as possible is always to be expected. never expect your government will take notice or care about it either. they will look away until the populace is ready to revolt and murder the rich folks and even then they will continue doing as much harm as they can get away with
So you endorse murder?
@@mutiny_on_the_bounty you literally have mutiny in your name, so you endorse it too then?
@@JonnoPlays
They were rounded up and executed. For the mutiny. The ones that were caught.
"The way of the Dao is to for those with much to give to those that have little. Mans way is different, he takes from those that have little and gives to those that have too much." Lao Tzu
Eat the rich.
What a great documentary about an issue we didn't know existed. Thank you dw for the great work letting us see around the globe
This documentary shows that my job I complain about daily is a dream compared to what those workers go through daily and 6 days a week. Mad respect to them all 👏👍🙏✊️💪
Great so can say many ppl working low pay jobs in the West, so we should just show this to them(me too), when we complain that we have "a ok"...lol:(
Like they , in many cases corporations treat workers like we did miners in 1800's...
I am amazed while special interest is making on so many issues, in some cases pushes those issues too far, in my opinion. This kind of real world "wrongs" we just can't seem to fix...:(
No this just means. We are all slaves. In a system that. Controls the outlook of humanity.
Well Said.. DW Deliver Brilliant Documentaries..
This Method with the Filds is not good for the World ,that makes here more as one Psychologic Disorder Visible.
That is for the most People of the World not so good Visible how Big that Problem so is, or how many Problems that in the Future brings.
That what the World here needs is more Food Forrests or more other better Symbiosis Methods.
That or so a Fild is for us O.k, but for the Nature is that more as bad or worse,then taht takes here Freedom.
Even if they work in sub human conditions - it does not make your job ‘good’. Don’t confuse one for the other
Well done again DW. These stories need to be highlighted.
Avocado, chocolate, palm oil and now orange juice. Seems like nothing is free from exploitation 😔
Bankers seem to be doing ok. =/
It will be this way as long as exploitation is profitable.
Blue berry
It's the same in New Zealand. Growers couldn't get locals to work for them to the point that growers threatened the government to not harvest their export crop. So the government allowed growers to bring in workers from overseas during lockdown, for low wages, long hours, heavy workloads, and substandard shared accomodation.
Labor exploitation. Happens in the States, happens all over the world. How? Why? Bec the governments turn a blind eye to it while illegal immigrants and undocumented workers accept it in exchange for being able to work and live in a foreign country that they perceive to be economically better than their country of origin.
I've picked fruit in NZ. The pay isn't amazing, but it's enough and the working conditions are perfectly acceptable. Sure it's physical work, but that doesn't make it illegal. The accomodation varies from job to job, but it's no worse than some private houses or apartments I've lived in around the world. Also foreign workers have been picking crops in NZ for years already, decades even. I think you're making a mountain out of a molehill and it would be a stretch to compare whats happening in NZ with the exploitation in Brazil.
Isnt that the point of immigrants
Anyone else feels rage towards Ibiapaba Netto? The guy that has no idea whats like to work there on the field but he can represent the companies and can speak for the workers he never saw or met.
Just like the world's most polluted river, I hope this equally stirrs the conversation and relevant actions be taken. I'm so proud of this channel.
oranges are juiced with the skin on ..so anyone who buys and drinks bottled/boxed orange juice also drinks pesticides. it unfortunatelly applies almost to every fruit and vegetable and cereals ..as for the working conditions, it also applies to all workers accross the agro industry ..
They are washed before.
That's quite unfortunate. But I think the European Union still maintains high standards regarding food, food packaging, and the amount and type of pesticides used as compared to say the United States. Nevertheless, there is much we don't know about food produced and packaged on an industrial scale.
Thank you DW for showing determination to preserving interests of working class.
When I worked in the Amazon warehouse during Christmas periods, I came across people from all over the world, who actually liked the job and said it was good working conditions compared to back home
And let's be honest Amazon will work you at a demanding pace.
Everything in this world is relative. The way you see the world depends on your point of view and context
@@lassipls It could also be fair to say ; That God helps those that help themselves.
@@lassipls , you are wrong! Not everything in this world is relative!
While that is true, it doesn't mean we should allow the bar to be set low. There's still a huge profit margin in treating workers right.
Here in Southern California we have sidewalks littered with able bodies who waste away on drugs and alcohol. I have so much respect for agriculture workers.
"Here in Southern California we have sidewalks littered with able bodies who waste away on drugs and alcohol. I have so much respect for agriculture workers."
If there is anything this documentary would have taught you with its demonstration of how these workers face firing for the flimsiest of reasons, it's that there is only a single step between being a worker exploited by a company and ending up homeless on the street. Maybe you should try and engage a few more braincells in analysing the system that produces both of these categories of people, before attacking the latter for their misfortune. Disgusting.
Someone has secrets to hide! When will companies understand that if you take care of your staff, they will take care of you.
here in crete the oranges are mostly left to fall to the floor as its not financially worth picking, transporting and selling them. many owners are ripping perfectly good, healthy trees up in favour of avocados because thats the latest trend and they can make a bit more money from them. its so sad. even the cheeses in the supermarkets (not local butchers etc) say they are made in crete but in reality the milk is bought from the balkans as its cheaper.
Well yes, what else do you think they should,d have done? Operate at a loss and still charge more?
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@@aryaaswale7316 avocados come at the cost of available water. I'm a capitalist through and through, but it's better to have long term vision rather than thinking of fast profits
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I hope the DW producers slipped Alfonso some money for his trouble :(
I wouldn't hope for that. But they got him fired though.
@@yourdaddy925 Please DON'T say things like this UNLESS YOU KNOW it's true.. otherwise it's just very annoying, negative conjecture.
@@krystalklear7793 is it clear after the narrator stated that "...Alfonso has violated his contract..." at around 5:40mins and "...banned from working for 11 days...". Have you got any actual experience with unregistered farm workers because i have. I used to work for 50 pence per hr , 12 hr shift in sweltering hot weather picking and wasking veggies and i did it just to make extra money for my holidays. Sadly for most people that worked in the fields with me, it was the only source of income. Man, ive seen people wearing shoes with holes in soles and all around in 2000s...poor af. Ad this is how they are treated in the fields too. Kids help their moms to hit picking targets and they cant even complain because if they do they out tf same day.
with a name like this, will make them try to get away with not paying!
DW thanks for all the work you guys do, we need to pressure these companies in Europe to do better.
I was cutting up Oranges in Florida when i noticed the box was from California. I said WTF, the boss says, we send ours to them...Now thats a hidden cost right there.
I like your documentaries, DW.
8 hrs a day, company transport, wage better than average for zero qualifications, work in the outdoors sounds like a good deal. I think the reporter is trying for a story where there is non. Life can get a lot worse.
I have an orange tree. It is hard to pick an orange because the thorns. It’s very sharp.
I do not find orange juice or any juice as essential necessity for my life. I gave up all juices, yes even those fruits smoothies, many years ago. They are extremely expensive and full of the sugar. Plus, all packed in plastic bottles 🤦♀️I replaced it with tap water and teas. Does not really miss it.
As long as we all desired ,,fresh,, and ,,cheap,, juices we will support creation of jobs with such atrocious working condition.
But the alternative is no job - all civilisations starts like this. You can`t go from doing nothing to enter a top notch job like we have in the market capitalistic technologically and culturally advanced West. 40 years ago I got 3 euros an hour as an apple picker in a Danish plantation. That was nice, but those wages are only possible in a highly developed economy.
This seems like a crude remark, but why is it always the supervisor that looks like that 09:35
250€/month for that HEAVY work.. and those hours, Not to mention all the risks involved...
Like snakes ....
Us humans are a really threat both to the planet and ourselves. Great documentary. The same goes for basically everything imported from much poorer countries (coca, coffee). The workes get unfortunately exploited. Who’s to blame? Farmers? Suppliers? Supermarkets? Politicians?
Yes, I think that the corporations who buy the "rights" to exploit the lands, and the politicians who allow them, are at the biggest fault.
Did u really said poorer countries then may be you don't know how poor are suffering in rich countries as well.
Capitalism
Greediness?
Middle men, rich people not wanting to spend money, capitalism, greed & mainly EXPLOITATION!
DW DOCUMENTARY: Was Alphonso compensated by DW, or whomever produced the documentary?
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i look at things differently, i will never understand greed. when i look at a rich person i think that person is good for the economy, i like people to be rich cause they prove their competence and therefore deserve it but i dont understand when these people make their employees suffer just to make a little more on their bottom line. Dont you want your workers to love you and respect you instead of cursing you at every moment?
These people did not gert rich by being nice and not gaming the system. Most of the time there is serious tax evasion and tax avoidance going on. All the while the workers who bring in the funds to make them rich are treated like shit and as a disposable commodity. Like oranges. When the climate changes to a point where wars are started over water we will see a change. Till then its bleed your workers dry and hope you die before the climate change really sets in and fucks up world food supplies.
Interesting. Thank you DW🙏
Between this and Avocados, I’m running out of food that I think are ethically sourced.
There is no ethical consumption under capitalism...
And we all know the final destination of those products ! Please know that when you are drinking your orange juice without any qualms someone has endured major suffering for this juice to be available on the shelves.
One thing I've noticed about the quality of the oranges I come across in the supermarket nowadays is they most often taste very sweet, especially those grown in Florida. I found those that come from South Africa more natural tasting and not so pricey.
I live in Cape Town, South Africa, and the Western Cape has a mediterranean climate so lots of citrus fruit varieties are grown here. Our fresh produce is delicious and safe to eat. Many people, even some of my neighbours, grow edible products in small raised boxes or anywhere in the garden, like tomatoes, lettuce and many have fruit trees even if we live in suburbia. Oranges trees were first planted and brought here by the Dutch in the 1600's. In fact on a farm called Hexriver in the Olifants River valley an original seedling tree is still producing oranges a few hundred years after being planted there. It has been declared a national monument. It is said that oranges from the Olifants River valley are the best of the best.
The Floridian orange is superior, good to hear.
dw always the best when it comes to documentary.
You should come to croatia and make a documentary ,that problem in brasil is nothing compare to this
Your the boss DW when it comes to documentries
After watching this, I realized I have a lot to be thankful for.
In Tanzania orange growing is very dangerous because of venomous snakes... Note that they also feed on fruits!
Labor exploitation. Happens in the States, happens all over the world. How? Why? Bec the governments turn a blind eye to it while illegal immigrants and undocumented workers accept it in exchange for being able to work and live in a foreign country that they perceive to be economically better than their country of origin. In the States, even those who work as caregivers, dishwashers, laborers, household help, nannies are illegal immigrants or undocumented workers who are exploited by their employers.
We are so spoiled. I expected a glass of orange juice from a day! Possibly one a week with appreciation for those who provided it0.
My 17 year old son goes through a half gallon of OJ every couple of days. If he only knew of the effort it requires to produce that bottle.
Don't forget the exploitation of people for coco, sugar and ev batteries.
How do you allow your son to consume so much liquid sugar ?
How can you allow your underage child to consume that much sugar?? Sounds like negligence to me
He does it because you permit it.
Haha thanks for all the parenting advice. He is a skinny teenager and I can afford the $4.50 every couple of days so who cares?
Same I feel so bad for these people. God has blessed me with a job indoors and I am thankful.
An excellent analysis💯.
Many small things/ point are highlighted.
A good documentary by DW.
The director @11 minutes into video needs to pick oranges for atleast 2-3 months; I am sure he will understand what field workers go through
Orange juice pickers isn't an easy job to have..I know people that do and it's no joke..long days 🍊
I would say most fruit/vegetable jobs aren't easy. Pruning, thinning, harvest, etc. Further down the line is sorting and packing.
It takes practice to be good at it. Many people, from Samoa for example, go to New Zealand or Australia to work in this area specifically. It pays good money, compared to the wages at their home. I guess this type of relationship between humans (someone is doing something tedious, while other enjoy the results) has been around since a long time.
The human race still needs to learn a lot.
It's orange pickers, you don't pick orange juice.... picking is hard work, I'm sure the juicing part is much easier....
They should have a track with bins that move as they are filled, so the workers aren't wasting time and energy moving them. I think that would be a great time saver
From the sugar plantation to the citrus farms nothing has changed-same people are involved.
Precisely. That's what I am saying here. Brazil is still a slaveowning society in spirit.
This is award winning coverage. Thank you.
Cheap labour is a global problem, but undermining the health of workers is at an evil level of the game.
The amount of corruption and flat-out mistreatment of less fortunate people in Africa and South America is truly mind-boggling. I feel for the people, they're hopeless.
They are stupid and work hard to earn money not like Hunter Biden who is rich without working
They can help as much as we can. How about we make people stop voting for neoliberal blood suckers who represent elite interests? Yes, that's all of Brazilian politics, meaning we need to create legitimate versions of either a far-left or a far-right movement. Since I am gay and autistic, I go for the far-left.
It's the same or even worse in Europe or the US, even on this channel there're many stories about european and US companies that contribute directly or indirectly to activities that rely on labor exploitation, this is not only a problem of developing countries.
This kind of punishment, of 11 days seems pretty awkward, especially in the State of Sao Paulo.
I don't understand foreigners who think southern Brazilians and paulistas are more civilized. They vote for Bolsonaro. This happens because Brazil still has a slavery mentality and they see Northeastern Brazilians with that mindset. Hell, even poor white people from their own city, but specially the Northeasterners. A lot of hate speech goes around every year as they vote for left-wing candidates en masse in there.
Picking fruit, no matter what country you are in is difficult hard labor long hours. Florida to Michigan and California. Cherry pickers ended picking cherries by hand. But if your 70 or so you may have eaten fruit I have picked. Take care. Stay safe.
It takes sooooo many oranges to make one glass. It’s disgusting how slave labor exist in other countries. The worker suffers while the desk jockey banks.
33:03 how come use is banned, but production is allowed? volume of production should be capped, then this loophole should be closed.
Sad state of affair! Why must people suffer so much just to earn an honest living? Strength to you Alfonso and all those affected
The global orange juice market was equal to 27.65 billion USD (calculated in retail prices) in 2014. Until 2024, the juice market in the world is forecast to reach 32.04 billion USD (in retail prices), thus increasing at a CAGR of 1.82% per annum for the period 2019-2024. 2:34
Source: Business Wire
Afonso will be surprised to read this... he is still young and could become a big businessman in the near future. Go Afonso, go ahead. Good luck! 8:38
All fruits are own-price elastic with the exception of bananas which are slightly inelastic, but not significantly so. Apples, pears, and bananas are expenditure inelastic while oranges, grapes and other fruits are expenditure elastic.
Elasticity is a general measure of the responsiveness of an economic variable in response to a change in another economic variable. The three major forms of elasticity are price elasticity of demand, cross-price elasticity of demand, and income elasticity of demand.
Sources: CFI; CORE ac uk
I saw this video before, only it took place in Florida.
You guys compensated afonso right?
Why don’t u send him $.
As someone from California; their oranges look very low quality.
i hope you DW Documentary took it upon yourself to pay Alfonso for those 11 days, you are indirectly responsible for him not being paid.
Everyday stay with Documentary of DW is a extremely happy time, because I can relax myself and gain some view of the planet. Also I can learn English speaking .
42mins is a very priceless investment for myself.
And also thank you, DW TEAM.
Thank you for watching and for your lovely words, Daniel. Have a nice day!
Brasil is the last country to end the Africa slave trade
I wouldn't worry a lot about Afonso. If the company did anything illegal or made him sign an abusive contract or any other misconduct that guarantees a win at the court, there will be lawyers queuing at his door to defend him for free + 30% of what they obtain at the end. And this works surprizingly well.
Why do Brazilian petit-bourgeois small fry always believe you guys are in the same position as international corporations? Such short-sightedness.
I hope DW paid Alfonso his lost income. This is shocking. Less than $300 a month with such horrible conditions.
BY Abu Saeid and Maruf Ahmed - November 3rd, 2021
Citrus Fruits: Nutritive Value and Value-Added Products
Nowadays, citrus pulp/pomace, seed, and peel are used for various commercially valuable products such as food ingredients, pectin, essential oils, enzyme production, a natural antioxidant, and packaging film formation. 38:18
Source: IntechOpen
The vitamin C in oranges helps your body in lots of ways: Protects your cells from damage. Helps your body make collagen, a protein that heals wounds and gives you smoother skin. Makes it easier to absorb iron to fight anemia. Studies have shown that fiber helps the body maintain digestive health and may lower your risk of conditions like diabetes, heart disease, and some types of cancer.
Source: WebMD
In addition to worker exploitation, the fundamental problem with orange juice is that too many calories slip down your throat so easily. Much smarter/healthier to simply eat an orange if that is what you want. I am fully aware that juice oranges are not the same as eating oranges.
What I don't understand is what's wrong with us humans. Oranges are there, eat it, throw the body on the floor and it decays naturally within few weeks.
But, we expend energy to put them in bottles, plastics for that matter which will decay in centuries constituting nuisance just for profits... Really?! What's wrong with us?!
Incredible documentary
Very informative and useful film👍
What most people don't realize is how interconnected everything is. The working conditions are one thing, and no doubt we are all against the abuse of these workers.
But if the workers had to collect half the oranges only, for the same salary, and did it in better working conditions, and all procedures were as they should be, the orange juice would easily cost twice as much... And the same goes with every goods grown/produced in 3rd world countries.
No doubt it is great to be an idealist, but for the amazing life we have here in the "Western world", with an ability to purchase so many things from our wages, someone on the other side of the planet always has to pay the price... Sadly that's the way it has always been, and always will be, until a breaking point arrives--which may be sooner than we think.
Great documentary. It made me remember of the Grapes of Wrath by Jonh Steinbeck. In my opinion, pesticides are the biggest concern, and safety precautions should be put in place and followed. Spraying pesticides should be scheduled on a day when orange pickers are not working or vice versa. In other words, workers should take that day off because of the "Spraying Pesticides Day." A much healthier fruit with no pesticides would be much better utilizing natural pests control like the wasps in that laboratory. But then orange pickers could get stung while working. There's indeed a lot of challenges ahead. Better work conditions with safety are always welcomed.
Thanks for watching and sharing your thoughts!
Those wasps are harmless to humans. And you are completely right. The companies need to take care of their people and their products with more sense and ethics!
where can i buy 'fair trade' ?
German growers are also suffering from Parkinson disease
33:44 If you put brazil northwest of Europe it could be confused with Greenland. The shape is roughly similar.
I wish if everything could be done in moderation. Now it’s hard to find daily essentials which is not “mass-produced” and “wasted”
My goodness does DW ever make a bad documentary? You guys are the best!
I grew up on a fruit farm in NY. Apples and pears. We used 20' ladders on the big apple trees. Very similar to orange tree, same picking bags, ladders. Falling off a ladder was really hard. I never saw a case. It's because the tree is like a bush and the ladder leans against the whole side. Impossible for it to fall or slide. Even if you did fall off it's hard for you to fall straight down, you have to go through a bunch of leaves and branches.
3:15 "A bag weighs 27 kg (80 lbs). That's too much." It is heavy, but you're not required to fill a bag. So it that's too heavy, then don't fill it so much. Yes that would slow you down and you earn less.
But yeah, it's a very hard low paying job. Not many can last into old age. At some point a picker is going to have to find another type of job. Better to do that before even starting.
A good practice of any business is to give back to your community and enhance it.
Billions are made and the community does not shine.
Crooks are what these companies are and not businesses.
Claiming your rights will be what gets your killed or fired too.. this is so sad
There is a joke in Malaysia and Singapore saying if you aren't smart but you would still like to earn well, you could move to Australia to pluck fruits and I'm studying in Germany now and I was shocked when my German friend told me his brother moved from Germany to Austrlia to pluck fruits. His brother lives alone and enjoys Australia.
An eye-opener and educational documentary. It is also very sad. Sad because orange pickers are treated so poorly.
*wants to remain anonymous at all costs*
*documentary shows him, his hair color, style, stature, etc*
Good work done 👍❤️❤️❤️
the worst thing on this planet is not a sore loser, its a sore winner
American actress Julia Louis-Dreyfus, a star of the Seinfeld Show is related by blood to the Dreyfus Corporation founder, Leopold Dreyfus. If you see her eating at Katz Deli in New York City perhaps you could politely ask her to make inquiries in regard to the Brazilian citrus workers.
Such documentaries and such ways truly makes one ponder what slaves went through for centuries nonstop! Any society that has tasted the practice of slavery finds it difficult to abandon the ways completely but just reforms the practice to suit the era!
Since DW want hidden side of everything. I want a documentary on how much DW staffers especially those who do menial jobs(sweepers, cleaners, drivers,,, ) are getting paid to find hidden cost of making documentary.
I'm impressed just how well regulated at the Federal level, this industry is.
Brazil can be summed up in one sentence: India trying really hard to pretend to itself that it is Belgium
Did you pay Alphonso for the 11 works days that he was sanctioned?
I have a countrymen who work in Australia as a fruit picker the company were not giving them any personal gear but they only provide themselves, the good thing is they're paid by box and they're not allowed to carry more than what your body not allowed because there's a tractor to carry the fruit, $70 per box and the couple earned $3,200 a day, it depends upon the kind of they're picking of because some of the fruits are seasonal but they pick all year round, in that kind of company laborers suffers labor injustice what they do to the company, I think they have no benefits to enjoy after all
aha 3200 a day. Lets all become fruit pickers.
funniest thing is most people think orange juice is healthy, its not even close to being as healthy as just eating....orange.
Eh. You can just eat a salad and drink juice with it. Fiber is easily replaced.
7:03 75% of world export from Brazil
9:21 8 bags/hour
10:28 minimum wage: 200 euro
During the marketing year 2020/2021, Brazil was the leading global orange producer, with production volume of 14.7 million metric tons. That year, the global production volume of fresh oranges amounted to about 47.45 million metric tons. 12:34
China is the top country by citrus fruit production in the world. As of 2020, citrus fruit production in China was 44.6 million tonnes that accounts for 28.07% of the world's citrus fruit production. The top 5 countries (others are Brazil, India, Mexico, and the United States of America) account for 59.15% of it.
Sources: Statista; Knoema
In the United States, top orange growing states are California, Florida, Texas, and Arizona. Florida continues to sustain major losses due to citrus greening; the disease has not materially affected California groves as of yet. 1:07 to 1:14 Sunshine State production is divided between Valencia and Navel orange varieties.
Source: Blue Book Services
The harsh truth about these kind of system.. if they raise their minimum wage.. or increase expenditure for the workers.. the price is than transfer to the customers.. the backlash is that customer might don't like it and pick another kind of brand.. or drink less juice overall.. as long there is no cap on how much profit a company can make, this will keep happening... BUT if they do make a cap, it raise even more problems down the line.. it is harsh but it is reality..
If you don't want to pay for it don't drink orange juice.
Are there not 3rd party evaluations and certifications for working conditions in place for these farms? Something like SEDEX or other globally accepted organizations that audit and interview their working conditions?
Brazil is heavily oligarchic as a country that used to be a slave colonial society. Elite interests being put into question is seen as communist bullshit and a threat. Our society is conservative and invested into such backward notions. So they will never be obliged by law to disclose anything, and regulation will stay sparse even though on paper our working rights are wonderful. They're just used to make it harder for people to set up small businesses with endless bureaucracy. Vicious cycle. Terrible country.
Labour conditions such as these are similar to those faced by those who do similar jobs in my country Uganda.
I did such a job in 2009-2012
if the picker is poor, if the farmer doesn't do enough money, then who is putting all the money in his pocket? We pay about 5$ for a 2L of Orange Juice that taste like battery acid...
Did you know owing to modern pesticide farming techniques to get the same nutritional intake as your grandmother eating an orange you'd now have to eat over 6 oranges to get the same nutrition 😔
They're just as nutritional depending on the soil, this is more so due to soils being exhausted. The real problem of pesticides and herbicides is them being poison both at an acute and a chronic dose.
The growers don’t know or they don’t want how to protect workers from harmful effects of pesticides