I absolutely love the subtle things in this episode to show how the Pierces', regardless of their "politics," are still at the end of the day just... also rich assholes. The way they treat their staff is interesting, like when Nan cajoles one of the waiters into having a drink as if she doesn't know they're working and they can't.
Yes, also when when the staff have prepared the meal and Nan goes to the kitchen once it's done and carries it into the dinning room and gets a round of applause when she literally did nothing and is only receiving praise for other people's hard work.
@Al2023- Nope. For a dinner like that and if it was the Roys, there’s no way you’d see Logan come in with the food and with people clapping and cheering for him because the Roys don’t pretend to be anything like the Pierce’s where they’re this morally liberal family. The scene where she brings in the food you could probably look past it but as the original commenter says, when you look at it with the context of Nan asking the staff to have a drink knowing that realistically she can’t because she’s working exposes her and what type of white liberal, doing things for show person she is. The pretence of having this relationship with her staff that she clearly doesn’t have and you can see it in the faces of all the staff when they do all the work and she takes it in for a round of applause. We also see this white liberalism is one of the Pierce’s who’s dong a phd in African studies, he’s a billionaire, doing all this PhDs to be pretentious when realistically he could probably positively impact the people he’s studying about. He’s doing a PhD to to feel good as though he’s doing something when he actually has the abilities to actually do something. That’s who the Pierce’s are, they’re pretentious and self aggrandising and Nan Pierce giving her family credit for taking down the Berlin Wall is also another reflection of that. Also that’s a terrible comparisons because actors get their awards for acting, not for writing. Actors don’t pretend they wrote the scripts and the people who award actors also award the directors, writers etc for their contribution. Actors also usually thank the people that made it possible for them to do what they do, Nan Pierce relished in the praise for herself.
One of the best episodes of the series. When Shiv cracked I thought my stomach was going to fall out of butt. The way they raise my stress over the MOST mundane business deals should be studied at universities lol
Logan was never planning on handing it over to Shiv just like he was never handing it over to Kendall. He makes those promises to keep them on his side begging for his approval so theyll keep slitting each others throats instead of his.
I agree and it’s been evident since the first episode. Logan tells them to be independent but can’t stand them not being under his thumb. He demands complete control over everyone in his life. Generational trauma is ugly
Yeah, he specifically uses Shiv to get her away from Gil. He neuters Gil by removing a savvy political advisor from his team & then kneecaps Shiv when the time is right but does so in a way to keep her *hoping* she can take over one day
The relation between Connor and Papa Smurf was great. They've started as enemies, but after a night of drinking they became buddies, and we will see the guy from time to time in the background.
Cherry Jones (Nan Pierce) is such a good actor. She's been in quite a few shows and movies and I just love her. This is one of the best episodes of the whole show. Every subtle little dig and passive aggressive conversation is just perfection. I enjoyed y'alls reactions and commentary.
I can't stress enough how I enjoy these reactions and your appreciation of the humor of the show. It is very easy to miss and a put a serious face about all that is there, but cmon, it is as much as hilarious as it is tragic. I feel like few reactors see the fun of it behind the obvious drama of it.
The contrast between old money (the Pierces) and new money (the Roys) is insane. Logan is Scottish, so he is an immigrant who, similarly to Murdoch irl, made his fortune in the US (I am guessing mostly after his second marriage, where he seems to have picked an English aristocrat after a failed 1st marriage with Connor's mother, who he probably found too unstable/frail to support him in his endeavours) and is living the American dream, which makes him and his children "new money". The Pierces have inherited their wealth for generations, so they don't think and don't care about money. The Pierces are poised, they don't shout nor swear, they hate talking about money like it's something dirty, they quote Shakespeare, are connected by heritage, family traditions and recipes, the love for culture and academics. And they don't try to look rich in their behaviour or looks. There is also no palpable tension among family members, the opposite of the Roys. The Roys can't stop talking and thinking about money, despite being already super rich, and you can see "new money" flashy looks in Kendall on various occasions, with his trendy designer clothes, sneakers and accessories.
My favourite episode of the entire show. So complex and layered. The writing, the dialogue, the direction, the camerawork, the nuance, the subtext ... everything was masterful.
Such great writing in this episode with the Pierces being the insufferable rich family foil without being an exact mirror. Super efficient storytelling in conveying enough of the Pierce players and their motivations…and that Shiv implosion, I love dark comedy but I had to turn away and hide my eyes too!
Like Jesse said, all this time Shiv looked into the company as an outsider since she had career elsewherehe. She looked at Roman and Kendall and made comments like a back seat driver, but when she's put under the same pressure and scrutiny she fucked up. I think she never experienced humiliation directly by Logan until she decided she wants in. She probably thought it's all fun and games for her brothers being under Logan's command. Pierce is the type who put up the compassion, women empowerment front, acting hollier than thou when they're just as detached from reality like the Roys is.
Now is whe we start to see the cracks in shiv’s armor she thinks she’s smarter and more prepared for this than she is she refuses to humble herself to actually learn the business
Having seen the entire show, I'm half convinced Shiv has been the antagonist the entire time. I have six sisters and I'm happy none are anywhere near as bad as Shioban
@@RobertMorgan Feel like they're all protagonists and antagonists depending on who you root for... but I think there's a central antagonist and central protagonist throughout.
Whenever any of the kids (even Connor) get a whiff of power they become caligula - they all have the power to be a villain because that's how logan has imprinted hinself on them.
@@chops_chops yeah, her literally not undestanding, that ATN being a Fox News of that universe is what made their fortune and keeps them relevant. She just wants to have an another lefty brand, not understanding that demographics vary, and they have their own niche, which also gives them political influence. It is funny how Roman has actually the best business takes often, but is too messed up and weak to follow them, and anyone can sway him. Shiv? She thinks that is better than anyone else, while being the exact same hypocrite, and as Rhea said, she thinks that she is smarter than she actually is. Not a serious person, as Marcia summed up them. She also get a great reality check (probably was to dumb to understand it) in season 1, when the news producer said to her that the only reason she is allowed to be here and try to push her influence is because her name matches the one on the building. They all are at most medicore in what they do, and if you look closely during the whole series they only harm the company and lower its value.
Спасибо за ролики крутышки! Если я увижу слёзы на ваших красивых, великолепных, добрых и милых мордашках- фильмам и сериалам не поздороваться! С любовью из России ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🇷🇺✌️🇷🇺✌️
So you can hear them. These videos are for people who already have seen the show and want to see the reaction. If you just wanna watch the show then you can just go to HBO max
@@Diegesisthat’s not what I’m saying. I’m here for the commentary. I’ve seen the earlier seasons like 3 times. I’m a huge succession fan but there are moments when y’all are talking but it’s silent. I can see your lips moving clearly commenting on something but there is no sound. I can only hear the show. It’s mute so I’m saying I’m missing out on your commentary bc something is going on with the audio. It’s happened the last few videos. I was trying to let y’all know bc I enjoy your videos
@@yumirousesometimes there is dialogue in the show that is more important to flow of the reaction so we are muted because it’s a line that’s more important than what we are saying! Or we just are talking a lil too much over a scene lol 😂 that’s all on Pateron the whole reaction is there unmuted!
Yes maple is right. Sorry I misunderstood. Yes, when the girls are talking and you don't hear then it's for two reasons: 1) talking over important show dialogue 2) talking about something unrelated to the show.
Shiv is a horrible person to Tom. Plain and simple. Gets married believing it’s monogamous. She tells him after their wedding reception she wants an open relationship. Allows Tom to be the shit the Roy’s shoes and is so self centered and egotistical just like her father.
Yeah, there will be a sad scene in the near future where he will say: “On our wedding night? Bang! Shanghaied into a, into a … open borders, free-fuck trade deal.” He really loved her, and she just did not care for a long, long time. Sure, Tom is also a bad person, but definetly the best, nexst to the current Greg of the lot.
hate to be “that guy” but just had to say both of you looked FABULOUS in this video. but yea you guys are great, already looking forward to seeing your reaction to the series finale 😂
Nothing wrong with admiring how beautiful these two are, their reads on the characters in this series is on point too I’m excited for them to get to the latter seasons they’re gonna lose their minds.
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I absolutely love the subtle things in this episode to show how the Pierces', regardless of their "politics," are still at the end of the day just... also rich assholes. The way they treat their staff is interesting, like when Nan cajoles one of the waiters into having a drink as if she doesn't know they're working and they can't.
Yes, also when when the staff have prepared the meal and Nan goes to the kitchen once it's done and carries it into the dinning room and gets a round of applause when she literally did nothing and is only receiving praise for other people's hard work.
@Al2023- LMFAOOOOOOOOO BROO. this comment on the rich people suck show??????
@Al2023- Nope. For a dinner like that and if it was the Roys, there’s no way you’d see Logan come in with the food and with people clapping and cheering for him because the Roys don’t pretend to be anything like the Pierce’s where they’re this morally liberal family. The scene where she brings in the food you could probably look past it but as the original commenter says, when you look at it with the context of Nan asking the staff to have a drink knowing that realistically she can’t because she’s working exposes her and what type of white liberal, doing things for show person she is. The pretence of having this relationship with her staff that she clearly doesn’t have and you can see it in the faces of all the staff when they do all the work and she takes it in for a round of applause. We also see this white liberalism is one of the Pierce’s who’s dong a phd in African studies, he’s a billionaire, doing all this PhDs to be pretentious when realistically he could probably positively impact the people he’s studying about. He’s doing a PhD to to feel good as though he’s doing something when he actually has the abilities to actually do something. That’s who the Pierce’s are, they’re pretentious and self aggrandising and Nan Pierce giving her family credit for taking down the Berlin Wall is also another reflection of that.
Also that’s a terrible comparisons because actors get their awards for acting, not for writing. Actors don’t pretend they wrote the scripts and the people who award actors also award the directors, writers etc for their contribution. Actors also usually thank the people that made it possible for them to do what they do, Nan Pierce relished in the praise for herself.
"King of edible leaves, His Majesty the Spinach"
Tom's answer to Shakespeare
The best worst take on changing a subject xD
One of the best episodes of the series. When Shiv cracked I thought my stomach was going to fall out of butt. The way they raise my stress over the MOST mundane business deals should be studied at universities lol
Logan was never planning on handing it over to Shiv just like he was never handing it over to Kendall. He makes those promises to keep them on his side begging for his approval so theyll keep slitting each others throats instead of his.
I agree and it’s been evident since the first episode. Logan tells them to be independent but can’t stand them not being under his thumb. He demands complete control over everyone in his life. Generational trauma is ugly
Yeah, he specifically uses Shiv to get her away from Gil.
He neuters Gil by removing a savvy political advisor from his team & then kneecaps Shiv when the time is right but does so in a way to keep her *hoping* she can take over one day
This dinner was SO awkward but also so funny. Tom's "what a weird family" was amazing.
Calling Greg a “beautiful Ichabod Crane” is so fucking funny to me.
The relation between Connor and Papa Smurf was great. They've started as enemies, but after a night of drinking they became buddies, and we will see the guy from time to time in the background.
Doesn't he call him my liege
Seriously, this is one of my fav episodes in this series. That dinner scene is a masterclass in TV writing
Literally just rich ppl having a convo over dinner and things have never been more tense and awkward. We really had it good with Succession.
Cherry Jones (Nan Pierce) is such a good actor. She's been in quite a few shows and movies and I just love her. This is one of the best episodes of the whole show. Every subtle little dig and passive aggressive conversation is just perfection. I enjoyed y'alls reactions and commentary.
when the girl on the right was physically cringing and going "I'm sorry" haha
that shit is so real
I can't stress enough how I enjoy these reactions and your appreciation of the humor of the show. It is very easy to miss and a put a serious face about all that is there, but cmon, it is as much as hilarious as it is tragic. I feel like few reactors see the fun of it behind the obvious drama of it.
The contrast between old money (the Pierces) and new money (the Roys) is insane. Logan is Scottish, so he is an immigrant who, similarly to Murdoch irl, made his fortune in the US (I am guessing mostly after his second marriage, where he seems to have picked an English aristocrat after a failed 1st marriage with Connor's mother, who he probably found too unstable/frail to support him in his endeavours) and is living the American dream, which makes him and his children "new money". The Pierces have inherited their wealth for generations, so they don't think and don't care about money.
The Pierces are poised, they don't shout nor swear, they hate talking about money like it's something dirty, they quote Shakespeare, are connected by heritage, family traditions and recipes, the love for culture and academics. And they don't try to look rich in their behaviour or looks. There is also no palpable tension among family members, the opposite of the Roys.
The Roys can't stop talking and thinking about money, despite being already super rich, and you can see "new money" flashy looks in Kendall on various occasions, with his trendy designer clothes, sneakers and accessories.
yeah, I thought the Roys were entitled pricks but then the Pierces were introduced...
My favourite episode of the entire show. So complex and layered. The writing, the dialogue, the direction, the camerawork, the nuance, the subtext ... everything was masterful.
The fantastic Cherry Jones, as Nan Pierce, deservedly won an Emmy for her work in this episode.
She already won an Emmy a decade ago as President of the USA in 24.
one of my absolute favorite episodes on the show
I love Gerri and Roman so much
Such great writing in this episode with the Pierces being the insufferable rich family foil without being an exact mirror. Super efficient storytelling in conveying enough of the Pierce players and their motivations…and that Shiv implosion, I love dark comedy but I had to turn away and hide my eyes too!
I love how into this show Arianna gets lol these two are always so on top of what the characters could be thinking, it's great
Your cheering for Gerri and Roman is adorable lol.
I love that once Logan "promised" Shiv CEO, almost every episode has been why she ISN'T the one
Like Jesse said, all this time Shiv looked into the company as an outsider since she had career elsewherehe. She looked at Roman and Kendall and made comments like a back seat driver, but when she's put under the same pressure and scrutiny she fucked up. I think she never experienced humiliation directly by Logan until she decided she wants in. She probably thought it's all fun and games for her brothers being under Logan's command.
Pierce is the type who put up the compassion, women empowerment front, acting hollier than thou when they're just as detached from reality like the Roys is.
The dinner scene is so painful to watch but so brilliantly written too
I need to make a counter for every time Maple correctly reads someone. It's impressive.
The timing and tension in the performances of these scenes are so good that I forget I'm watching scripted theater.
preach!
This show only gets better and better
None of the kids ever watched Glengarry Glen Ross: "You never open your mouth until you know what the shot is."
Now is whe we start to see the cracks in shiv’s armor she thinks she’s smarter and more prepared for this than she is she refuses to humble herself to actually learn the business
Helicopters aren’t as dangerous as you’d think
Love this episode but i can’t rewatch it in full, dinner scene makes me cringe so hard.
Shiv definitely effed herself.
the more i watch this show, the more i realize how much my mom is Logan Roy XD
my dad
This episode reminds me why I’m such a hardcore shiv defender.
Having seen the entire show, I'm half convinced Shiv has been the antagonist the entire time. I have six sisters and I'm happy none are anywhere near as bad as Shioban
@@RobertMorgan Feel like they're all protagonists and antagonists depending on who you root for... but I think there's a central antagonist and central protagonist throughout.
Whenever any of the kids (even Connor) get a whiff of power they become caligula - they all have the power to be a villain because that's how logan has imprinted hinself on them.
Seeing this episode just made me dislike shiv more lol
@@chops_chops yeah, her literally not undestanding, that ATN being a Fox News of that universe is what made their fortune and keeps them relevant. She just wants to have an another lefty brand, not understanding that demographics vary, and they have their own niche, which also gives them political influence.
It is funny how Roman has actually the best business takes often, but is too messed up and weak to follow them, and anyone can sway him. Shiv? She thinks that is better than anyone else, while being the exact same hypocrite, and as Rhea said, she thinks that she is smarter than she actually is. Not a serious person, as Marcia summed up them.
She also get a great reality check (probably was to dumb to understand it) in season 1, when the news producer said to her that the only reason she is allowed to be here and try to push her influence is because her name matches the one on the building.
They all are at most medicore in what they do, and if you look closely during the whole series they only harm the company and lower its value.
Спасибо за ролики крутышки! Если я увижу слёзы на ваших красивых, великолепных, добрых и милых мордашках- фильмам и сериалам не поздороваться! С любовью из России ❤❤❤🎉🎉🎉🇷🇺✌️🇷🇺✌️
Shiv had it coming
man I forgot how much of a shitshow the entire dinner was
Why does the sound cut so much when they’re talking? I hate that we are missing commentary. 😭
So you can hear them. These videos are for people who already have seen the show and want to see the reaction. If you just wanna watch the show then you can just go to HBO max
@@Diegesisthat’s not what I’m saying. I’m here for the commentary. I’ve seen the earlier seasons like 3 times. I’m a huge succession fan but there are moments when y’all are talking but it’s silent. I can see your lips moving clearly commenting on something but there is no sound. I can only hear the show. It’s mute so I’m saying I’m missing out on your commentary bc something is going on with the audio. It’s happened the last few videos. I was trying to let y’all know bc I enjoy your videos
@@Diegesis They talking about when we can't hear YOU guys lol
@@yumirousesometimes there is dialogue in the show that is more important to flow of the reaction so we are muted because it’s a line that’s more important than what we are saying! Or we just are talking a lil too much over a scene lol 😂 that’s all on Pateron the whole reaction is there unmuted!
Yes maple is right. Sorry I misunderstood. Yes, when the girls are talking and you don't hear then it's for two reasons:
1) talking over important show dialogue
2) talking about something unrelated to the show.
I am happy that Kendall at least had fun 🥲 him and naomi are a disastrous match and I love it ❤️ a perfect case of enemies to lovers
i cant focus those milkmonsters look lovely
Shiv is a horrible person to Tom. Plain and simple. Gets married believing it’s monogamous. She tells him after their wedding reception she wants an open relationship. Allows Tom to be the shit the Roy’s shoes and is so self centered and egotistical just like her father.
Yeah, there will be a sad scene in the near future where he will say:
“On our wedding night? Bang! Shanghaied into a, into a … open borders, free-fuck trade deal.”
He really loved her, and she just did not care for a long, long time. Sure, Tom is also a bad person, but definetly the best, nexst to the current Greg of the lot.
She's pathetic as a partner
The dinner scene of Succession and Office can be up for competition for being the cringiest☠️
2:29 This moment here which I think you missed. The way Logan talks to Kendall is awful.
Kendall is the only person I root for in the show
I’m sorry but Shiv is the worst. Her character is not funny, and doesn’t make me feel bad for her.
I'm not surprised these 2 identify with shiv
hate to be “that guy” but just had to say both of you looked FABULOUS in this video. but yea you guys are great, already looking forward to seeing your reaction to the series finale 😂
Nothing wrong with admiring how beautiful these two are, their reads on the characters in this series is on point too I’m excited for them to get to the latter seasons they’re gonna lose their minds.