In ninjas defense he came from an era of gaming where talking shit was normal, and peoples feelings didn't matter. Everyone is so god dam soft now is sickening. LFG!!
Yeah, it was really just typical banter back in the day and then streaming was a thing. These new streamers don't know how to talk shit in person in LAN sessions. lol
Ninja got famous in streaming for his gameplay and shit-talking, didnt need a room full of attention seekers and wild behavior in public to get noticed
Man this new generation wouldn't survive in the 2000s gaming era. His comments weren't even remotely bad from what I have heard in those glory CoD days. Actions definitely speak louder than words.
Ninja is getting pretty old. He’s been doing this for a long time and we have to remember where he came from. It feels like people forget who is actually is as a person
Whether or not you like or dont like Ninja, what he did for the gaming industry in terms of streaming during early Fortnite when it was becoming a global phenomenon will probably never be replicated again and I personally believe that Ninja was a HUGE reason why streaming games has become such a norm now where everyone wants to do it and its no longer niche and something ur parents or teachers wouldnt recommend u doing as they probably thought it was a waste of time.
Facts. I graduated high school in 2011 and college in 2015. If I had any idea something like this was possilbe I would had given it a shot. But that didn't happen until after the fact and now its a norm like any sports player. The margins are small but it is a very possible career path.
When he said he got famous cuz his good at Fortnite not cuz he is entertaining ik this guy who made this video missed those of days and wasn't watching ninja back then
It feels like the guy who made this video hates Ninja. Ninja doesn't have the best personality and does not try to have a nice guy attitude. However, I didn't hear Ninja talk directly to Kai. He sounded annoyed with chat and said outright that Kai is a big deal. I don't get the offense or Kai's "F Ninja" video. Why take it so personally? It doesn't matter, it wasn't that serious. People just want drama.
@@shanelayshock4001 I just won the heisman at Colorado and transferred to Kentucky and immediately fell into a position battle. Almost launched my Xbox through a window
@@keorei I don’t. In fact I watch nick, Tim and caseoh RUclips videos, not even them gaming besides caseoh running the border patrol. I’m sick of getting hyped for games and them being absolutely trash. You probably like solo quest based gay ass games. Congrats
@OldBenKenobi2318 How he is ain't a good look. Can understand how unlikable he is. Yes good at fortnite. If he wasn't skilled at games I dunno man. Don't think he'd be where he is
@@itzMVPeteno. especially the afterdark drunk stuff with friends he’s funny and entertaining. He’d still be big. The problem is people like you being a bunch of babies who can’t take what he says
Ninja is just an asshole but he means well, he just is an emotional dude that has a hard time conveying his thoughts when he mixes in his emotions. Will always respect the dude for what he did to help boost people from the bottom.
Ninja is hilarious and he's done a lot for charity and the gaming space but he does have what we in the music scene call LSD. Lead Singer's Disease lol. Where you gotta lead the charge, be the best, and set the example and you might inadvertently steamroll anyone who either gets in your path, or can't keep up. Otherwise you're a solid person who genuinely cares about people
I never cared for the viewership and popularity around Ninja but I will say I used to enjoy his videos when Fortnite popped off back in 2017-2018. The only thing that stopped me from watching him was the switch to mixer. After that happened he lost his spark for videos
Ninja is original. We dont get that from any of these new streamers. Ninja says what is on his mind. I know the fans here hate doc, but he does too. Staying original is better to me than someone just hyped up and buying into their audience and the environment around them.
Original but being attitude and humilating small streamers just because oif small viewers is not a good thing. He has a lot of fans some of his fans are kids and its not a good influence.
I don’t think Tfue gets enough credit for his Twitch tenure. Ninja was bigger at his peak (January 2018 - June 2018), Tfue literally took over after that and was the biggest streamer in Twitch for 2 years until he quit Fortnite during June 2020. Like Tfue was literally pulling 100k viewers on average for months and then would go as far as 300k for big tournaments like the Skirmishes and the World Cup
Kai: "Ninja should brush it off and ignore it when his chat constantly talks about how I'm better than him and passing all his achievments" Also Kai: "NINJA SAID SOMETHING BAD ABOUT ME?!?!?!?!?"
I’ve encountered ninja a ton of times , I use to work at a place he regularly went and so did Tim and Cloakzy, my boss knew them, anywho they all were very cool and super genuine and they even shown there drunk selves to me, only had one altercation 😂 (my wife and ninjas wife) but besides that ninja was very cool, and I thought himself, Tim I always thought kept it proffesional and safe, played a role always, but Cloakzy was by far the most normal one and just down to earth and overall engaging with everyone. They’re all normal people
@@johnwilson8222 yea I was the manager of the arcade and the ice cream shop for two years then my wife took over, they’re known in the area and don’t have a bad rep so idk 🤷🏻♂️
@@drapeddowndrippedup blast arcade and moo lala in Baytown but millers and the Irish spot maguires is where they always invited me or whoever they were talking to out to but I always had to work 😭😂 hurts
I honestly don't see the issue with Ninja's first comment on Kai. The " He's doing what i could have done if i just stayed home and streamed and didn't go to mixer" because that's probably a true statment and imo mostly ninja seeing where he messed up going to mixer for the bag and not stying where he already had a community of fans built up. But the rest are a bit weird for sure
I completely agree with Nick. I also find it funny how Kai is over here chanting fuck Ninja and somehow ninja is getting all the bullshit. Like when did Ninja come out and do all that? I guess Ronaldo’s reaction was more understandable.
People don’t realise ninja gets the most shit out of anyone. So, if you see people in your chat daily saying negative shit it’s gonna get to you. Everyone is taking what he says too seriously too Jesus, watch some h1 or halo vods bro he been chatting shit since day one and I love it. Too many people trying to be friends with everyone is tiring
When it comes to ninja, most cannot say anything about him personally cause we're mainly viewers. But most streamers or people with a status or platform of his magnitude have an ego. But nonetheless, his takes on gaming are usually accurate, least with Fortnite. This season has been booty cheeks for the most part lol.
The thing is ninja did it while it was WAY harder to do. So I understand why he would have a bit of resentment towards them since they have it a lot easier these days. Just wish he would have capitalized on it for longevity but he’s decided to stay in his own lane and gotta respect that he’s still able to obtain a decent following at all even after the “fall off”.
The argument of Ninja only being popular for being good at games is so funny to me. That's why streaming became a thing, gaming. Not idiots dancing around with rappers in their room. Ninja an OG and this younger generation will never understand that
8:10 That's CAAAAP Ninja was NEVER the best, he was just known to be the best but when tournaments started he wasn't even in the convesation when mongraal and all these players came up. Ninja was definitely more entertaining than anything.
@@Misterfister25 well if he is just known for being good then he must be the best right since he had 200k viewers, just some logical both of you don't have.
I don’t think it’s shit talking. I would also be upset when these new streamers happen to blow up when social media in general is at its peak. People’s attention span is so low now days so people just kinda forget things. I don’t think ninja gets enough credit in today’s society for what he did in the past for the gaming community
@@hbaker26_ You mean he was drunk? What about the time when he disrespect stable ronaldo for having a low views, before that day when he collab to Tim? What about the stream of kai and speed when he said something? You must be a big fan and cant accept the fact that the best streamer back then is now a hater and a bad influence. We are not blind dude we all know what is joke and what is for entertainm,ent,
I think it’s crazy to say Ninja was only popular because of Fortnite. Couldn’t you say it was the other way around. For me and my group of friends, we only knew about Fortnite from seeing clips of ninja raging. I really feel like he needs to be credited for jump starting Fortnite
Ninja’s the freaking goat. Nick didn’t call him Jefe at the time for no reason. Still watch him some to this day and the guy is a slayer at no builds. If he hurts feelings even the better.
Ninja is great guy, a good person. It’s just the whole essence of who he is as a person, his whole personality, and basically everything that matters in real social situations sucks ass. But he is a great guy tho. Solid 10/10
The funniest thing ever about this is streamers expecting other streamers to be professional when nobody really is (on the camera) at the end of the day
Streaming wouldn’t be what it is today without ninja. He’s the first person to show how big you can get with it. All these new streamers need to realize that they’re doing what they’re doing because of him.
While I'm not a Ninja fan, nothing Ninja said about any of these streamers is bad. They are just a bunch of toddlers that are upset that someone who was doing this well before they came along doesn't bow down them and sing their praises every 5 minutes.
Love you supporting your friends! We all got those friends like him and sometimes we’re the friends they’re like him. Glad you’re keeping it real like always!!
When i think of gaming ninja is the first person that comes to mind. His talent and way of entertaining his audience was witty and intelligent. One of a kind truly.
@@sjwright3533 its a mixture of adults, teens and kids with Kai. Ninja strictly plays video games which is more associated with kids than adults. Kai has an overall bigger audience than Ninja ever had because of this mixture
@@acariMnK teens are still kids. I have a 13 and 7 year old myself, Im a very old youtuber, been using RUclips since the 2009, and it's more of a children's vice for content to watch, I do watch nothing but RUclips but I'm not watching Kai Cenat due brain dead things on stream, my kids walk around talking about fanum tax, and all this other nonsense. Id say the vast majority of Kai's viewers are kids and teens are still kids. Kids are Impressionable, and these content creators now need to be more mature and focused on bettering others and themselves rather than just them selves. These kids now see streamers as role models, parents no longer have that because of the freedom of the internet that we just didn't have access too back then. In the words of Kratos. We must be better.
I love Ninja, he gets so much unnecessary hate. He has made a few dumb mistakes, but literally most famous people do. Overall he's a great guy, and he gets better as he ages and mellows out.
There is a difference between being competitive and talking shit while playing video games and hating people like Myth (who mind you are one of the og's just like him) for not having as much views as him. He is SO toxic for no reason at all.. those people he shit on are just trying to get up but then we have a 30yr old calling himself Ninja trying to kick people down. Just pathetic. That video you watched is so spot on it cant get even more accurate. Just because you have him in your good graces for what he did for you doesnt mean he "a good guy". Kai didnt have ANYTHING to do with him lol. Yet he HAD to say some slimy shit just to bring a man down lowkey.
Not only was it a lot of people but I think everyone forgets that Ninja fucking made gaming mainstream. I'm sure it made everyone more money through viewers going to twitch who normally wouldn't have and brand deals, the list goes on forever. He hosted a fucking new years times square thing like wtf I know it was cringe but whos ever been on that scale as a gamer.
Id kill to be able to have a beer with Nick man... such a genuine guy. Good morals and values. Known Nick since Bo3 and ive honestly never unsubbed since. Love ya Nick ⚔️🔥
Day 42 of asking Nick why he's okay with talking about his 🍆 size on stream numerous times, knowing his audience consists of children, but holds Dr Disrespect accountable for something no one even knows the truth about. Let's at least talk about the hypocrisy here, right?
Bro surely you don’t expect these ppl to be anything other than NPCs 🤡 they all hate the Goat & can’t backtrack now, Doc continues to gain viewers & support while they see their numbers drop. Ppl are done supporting fake/phony ppl who just say whatever they think is trendy at the time.
Once he started being passive-aggressive and backhanded towards Kai breaking his records, I lost all of the small respect I had for Ninja. Dude is like an old head of streaming now 😂
At the end of the day I think ppl just forgot that 99% of online gamers are just pure nerds. It blew up and streamers became rockstars and now even celebs hit that go live button But back when streaming wasn’t as mainstream they were just a bunch of geeks who didn’t like to go outside. Ninjas just doing nerdy shit.
personally I think Ninja is the way he is ( an a**hole) because thats what made him, hes well known for always yelling, screaming, losing his s**t, thats just my opinion, great video, KEEP IT UP
That’s why I like Nick so much he’s like one of the only people who is just straight up Real about such topics and even more, where other people are scared to say stuff to loose they’re Career
I stopped watching Ninja years ago because all he did was bitched about his teammates/friends. He'd get outplayed, knocked and finished and then cry that it's his teammates fault because they're not revolving around his every step. A grown man genuinely yelling at other grown men over a cartoon video game lol. "It's just banter, new gamers are too soft." There's banter and then there's just bitching. He turned into a complete fun stream vibe killer to me. Him flexing his success over Ronaldo and calling him a failure in that drunk stream was really just seeing into the true self-absorbed mind of Ninja.
If people truly think Kai and Speed weren’t dying on purpose they are zero IQ. That was the most obvious drug out “idea” ever. Maybe they weren’t exactly dying on purpose. But they weren’t trying 100% to beat the game because they knew it was bringing in viewers if they died. So they were just being careless.
bro this mf was the biggest streamer in the world at one point. Do be able to that, you need a ungodly level of competitive drive and that competitiveness doesn't' just go away.
Ninja is legit. You dont want a fake friends and dont pay to be your friends Ninja built this whole his career for everyone. Respect and loyal guy he gets drunk we cant help what we actually feel our emotions but he real good guy and he amazing just like you ...
ninja is the greatest he doesnt need explosions, celebrities, the hottest games, fake laughter, women on stream, etc to be entertaining. ninja is an authentic streamer. Streaming was originally meant for gaming, Kai Cenat made it to where if you dont have anything I just named above the people will not watch you. There was a time when you can just play the game with homies and actually enjoy streaming without trying so hard. Streaming went from Fun and Enjoyment to a Lucrative Entertainment Business. (im 20 years of age btw im not a salty boomer on a rant, ima salty young guy ona rant).
the whole ronaldo thing is so dumb becuase ninja was getting drunk.And lets be honest trying to keep 125k viewers on twitch is very hard and he did it during the fortnite craze.And now fortnite has felloff but still doing good and ninja even now managing 8-10k viewers is still really good becuase now he plays what he wants and just chill EDIT: and people talking shit back then would honestly not even get offended by it but now saying 1 thing if very bad and the world is after U
All the kids in the comment section on ninjas side is crazy but shows how yall are yourself. If u think a guy out of a ghetto in NYC who made it in life, gonna accept trash talk infront of an audience from a guy with blue hair who cant give credit and always has some negative shi to say, yall are living in a fantasy world. Nothing with being soft here, but if you put out action then deal with a reaction of people, thats how it is. Kai is being real for that and ninja is a legit hater of him, thats facts
Ninja is very competitive. And I think he has an ounce of real ocd. Not just “I gotta keep things tidy” that people think is OCD but isn’t. He must say those extra things because they are their in his mind. He doesn’t really mean it bad. He just has to say it.
Hey man, nice to see such honesty, with relevent argument points rather than just criticising yet being abel to take the time to défend your Friend on several occasions, Big up you man thats cool AF
First off, half of the things Ninja said about Kai weren’t disses. It was just facts. Like they were definitely dying to keep peak hype. The record had been broken almost a year ago now and people act like it never happened so they could come throw it in Ninjas face. You can tell Ty is the type of friend who will bare straight up with you regardless of what’s going on and people can’t handle it
Ninja hate is basically TikTok culture. Every TikTok video & comment is "Ninja actually not complaining for once" when the clips of him complaining about something are less than a minute out of a 3-4 hour stream, once a week or less. You tell on yourself when you say he's not complaining for once/being a dick, etc.. As someone who watches 😂 A lot of these clips also lack context. But the guy with under a thousand subs doesn't wanna give you that context. Nick keeping it real as always.
Ninja worked hard for what his career is, when people attack his career he gets defensive. He’s competitive and knew it wasn’t easy so an attack on his achievements is an attack on him personally. So if people are constantly saying Kai this Kai that, it would get old fast. Especially when Ninja started is the competitive gaming scene not just the entertainment scene
The Ronaldo thing wasnt the first instance it was just the biggest one. Ninja has always been a jealous hater of anyone doing better than him. Dude has a history of back handed comments that go back to when his career just started to pick up, and he made those stone sober. Ninja is one of those "I want to see you do good but not better than me" type dudes.
I was never a big fan of Ninja in terms of gaming but between donations and boosting up other streamers the dudes done more than majority of the content creators currently.
Perfectly said! Talking shit was part of the game. We all did it and forgot about it at the end of the night. Kids didn’t need emotional support animals or safe spaces.
Hey Nick. Love the new format you've been doing. Very entertaining 💯🤟 "He's that friend that you've got to scream at every now and again it's just how it is." Nickmercs 2024
ninja is the prime example of what happens when someone receives more success than they deserve, he had the public image of being the first "best" fortnite player at the very peak of the game so all the kids went to him. if that did not happen hed still just be a normal chill streamer with his loyal core fanbase and all of the mistakes and ego and everything else never would have happened
I understand the frustration behind some comment's he's made, but I also understand the reason Ninja come's off that way too, I can't imagine having thousands of people spamming you about other creator's on a regular basis when you're just trying to vibe and game.
real people recognize that we are all pricks. The true measure of a person is how they treat you and look out for you. Thats where true friendships are and where true people are.
Ninja is the real deal. He’s not fake, what you see is what you get. The people who really know ninja personally all defend him, and that speaks volumes.
I literally watch Ninja's videos because he's entertaining as hell and says some funny s*** and does some funny voices and has an energy that other streamers can't replicate. To say that he is not entertaining is pretty far from the truth.
It reminds me of listening to all the greats talk about their records being broken…like Jordan on Lebron passing him and in the mlb with homeruns in baseball…those guys might be older but they are all still very competitive and don’t like to give out too much credit
The backhanded compliment shit is definitely annoying. but i don’t understand how people expect Ninja to feel when they spam him basically saying “Kai is doing better than you! He just broke your record”. Like maybe he wouldn’t have cared that much before but now thousands are spamming him and that’s also probably mad annoying. Also, it’s not like Kareem looked incredibly thrilled when Lebron broke his scoring record. It’s just how competitive people are, when you’re able to say you hold a record in something as big as basketball or twitch streaming, it kinda sucks to not be able to say that anymore.
In ninjas defense he came from an era of gaming where talking shit was normal, and peoples feelings didn't matter. Everyone is so god dam soft now is sickening. LFG!!
Yeah, it was really just typical banter back in the day and then streaming was a thing. These new streamers don't know how to talk shit in person in LAN sessions. lol
Used to watch him play halo back in like 2011 or something… he was relentless back then lol
Realest comment on this video.
Nah there's a difference between shit-talking and just blatantly hating.
you god damn right. you cant say ANYTHING now days "or you will get canceled" fking soft bullshit
Ninja got famous in streaming for his gameplay and shit-talking, didnt need a room full of attention seekers and wild behavior in public to get noticed
Man this new generation wouldn't survive in the 2000s gaming era. His comments weren't even remotely bad from what I have heard in those glory CoD days. Actions definitely speak louder than words.
Bro I honestly could care less what ppl say idk why ppl care so much honestly lol
Facts
No one city slicker from any era would ever survive being a farmer or himesteader😂😂😂
Just like Nickmercs can’t survive a game with rainbows in it. He must be the biggest snow flake there is. How can you watch someone as weak as him?
100% agree, this generation won't survive CoD/Halo 3 lobbies. I feel sorry for our future.
Bros just competitive. No participation trophies around here
🤓🤓🤓 Bros just competitive. No participation trophies around here 🤓🤓🤓
theres a difference, he would be direct but instead he throws shade in wierd comments like a girl
@@RaulTurrubiates wah wah
@@RaulTurrubiateswho fucking cares like fr all the crap going on in the world y’all worried about streamers feelings
@@RaulTurrubiates whaaaaa so if he was straight up you think no one would still hate ? lolllllll
Ninja is getting pretty old. He’s been doing this for a long time and we have to remember where he came from. It feels like people forget who is actually is as a person
we all gettin old !
@@NICKMERCS true that
@@NICKMERCS How can I win giveway?
Please let me know the answer
@@NICKMERCSwhos we unc? YOU getting old 🙏🏼😂😭😭
Whether or not you like or dont like Ninja, what he did for the gaming industry in terms of streaming during early Fortnite when it was becoming a global phenomenon will probably never be replicated again and I personally believe that Ninja was a HUGE reason why streaming games has become such a norm now where everyone wants to do it and its no longer niche and something ur parents or teachers wouldnt recommend u doing as they probably thought it was a waste of time.
Well facts I appreciate him too but the point here is his attitude. Thats one of the most reason why he is hated by everyone.
Facts. I graduated high school in 2011 and college in 2015. If I had any idea something like this was possilbe I would had given it a shot. But that didn't happen until after the fact and now its a norm like any sports player. The margins are small but it is a very possible career path.
Bro Ninja is entertaining as hell the hell? People are just jealous. But he's also jealous. So that's why the gears keep skipping. Good vid Nick.
That guy saying “Ninja wasn’t entertaining” was a wild take. Definitely is. Whether you like him or not.
While having one of the most boring monotone voice too lol
he wasn't
When he said he got famous cuz his good at Fortnite not cuz he is entertaining ik this guy who made this video missed those of days and wasn't watching ninja back then
It feels like the guy who made this video hates Ninja. Ninja doesn't have the best personality and does not try to have a nice guy attitude. However, I didn't hear Ninja talk directly to Kai. He sounded annoyed with chat and said outright that Kai is a big deal. I don't get the offense or Kai's "F Ninja" video. Why take it so personally? It doesn't matter, it wasn't that serious. People just want drama.
people just want something to be mad about especially kai's viewers since he's got a bunch of kids following him
He didn’t take it personally at all. His team told him to eat it up for more clicks and views and he did it like a good little monkey.
@@Tj_McQueen ah racism got to love it
Video games are so ass right now that the top streamers aren’t even playing games half the time. Somebody save this shit
I’m playing college football, best game on PS5 rn
@@shanelayshock4001 I just won the heisman at Colorado and transferred to Kentucky and immediately fell into a position battle. Almost launched my Xbox through a window
@@shanelayshock4001 for sure
lmao these past 2 years have been some of the best years in gaming. expand your horizons and stop getting your opinions from streamers
@@keorei I don’t. In fact I watch nick, Tim and caseoh RUclips videos, not even them gaming besides caseoh running the border patrol. I’m sick of getting hyped for games and them being absolutely trash. You probably like solo quest based gay ass games. Congrats
Yeah the ninja hate is just odd lol
Just find him boring
@@itzMVPeteSo you hate on him?
@OldBenKenobi2318 How he is ain't a good look. Can understand how unlikable he is. Yes good at fortnite. If he wasn't skilled at games I dunno man. Don't think he'd be where he is
@@itzMVPeteno. especially the afterdark drunk stuff with friends he’s funny and entertaining. He’d still be big. The problem is people like you being a bunch of babies who can’t take what he says
@@Hoodini2253 I have no interest in what he says, sorry bud
Ninja is just an asshole but he means well, he just is an emotional dude that has a hard time conveying his thoughts when he mixes in his emotions. Will always respect the dude for what he did to help boost people from the bottom.
its called adhd, our brain just works differently then everybody else. if you dont understand do some research im too lazy to write a whole essay rn😅
@@ballisto2112broken
Sir a sel3a de zeb sir
Ninja is hilarious and he's done a lot for charity and the gaming space but he does have what we in the music scene call LSD. Lead Singer's Disease lol. Where you gotta lead the charge, be the best, and set the example and you might inadvertently steamroll anyone who either gets in your path, or can't keep up. Otherwise you're a solid person who genuinely cares about people
I never cared for the viewership and popularity around Ninja but I will say I used to enjoy his videos when Fortnite popped off back in 2017-2018. The only thing that stopped me from watching him was the switch to mixer. After that happened he lost his spark for videos
Clout is one hell of a drug. The younger generation is soft.
Dude i’m 23 years old and i feel old for thinking what ninja does is funny and ok😂
Nick dude, you seriously are the most real creator bro. Keep that shit up. We need more real people like you around here! Cheers bro!
Most real ? Never that
What ? 😂
lol if you dont agree. you're probably one of the ones pushing that shit woke agenda on kids and shit. nick is spitting right now. children you are
Doc is
How is he real? Entire intro is trying to act like Macho Man Randy Savage. Guy is a 🤡
Ninja is original. We dont get that from any of these new streamers. Ninja says what is on his mind. I know the fans here hate doc, but he does too. Staying original is better to me than someone just hyped up and buying into their audience and the environment around them.
Original but being attitude and humilating small streamers just because oif small viewers is not a good thing. He has a lot of fans some of his fans are kids and its not a good influence.
I don’t think Tfue gets enough credit for his Twitch tenure. Ninja was bigger at his peak (January 2018 - June 2018), Tfue literally took over after that and was the biggest streamer in Twitch for 2 years until he quit Fortnite during June 2020.
Like Tfue was literally pulling 100k viewers on average for months and then would go as far as 300k for big tournaments like the Skirmishes and the World Cup
When you're in a back handed compliment competition and your opponent is Ninja
Kai: "Ninja should brush it off and ignore it when his chat constantly talks about how I'm better than him and passing all his achievments"
Also Kai: "NINJA SAID SOMETHING BAD ABOUT ME?!?!?!?!?"
Anything for a dollar with these trained monkeys. Clout is a hell of a drug.
you're comparing his chat saying something vs the streamer himself saying something you're not the brightest are you?
@@Mr.Rabot6688 I’m comparing people saying something. You’re not the brightest are you?
They were drunk af when Ninja said that stuff lol. I remember watching it live 😂
If you get under the influence and go to being an Ahole that's who you really are.
That live was funny af
I’ve encountered ninja a ton of times , I use to work at a place he regularly went and so did Tim and Cloakzy, my boss knew them, anywho they all were very cool and super genuine and they even shown there drunk selves to me, only had one altercation 😂 (my wife and ninjas wife) but besides that ninja was very cool, and I thought himself, Tim I always thought kept it proffesional and safe, played a role always, but Cloakzy was by far the most normal one and just down to earth and overall engaging with everyone. They’re all normal people
He would always introduce himself as Tyler and Cloakzy as Dennis, so calling them ninja and Cloakzy is weird
Millers?
I’ve ran into Ninja and Tim down there in Baytown. They were super cool and took pics with my kids.
@@johnwilson8222 yea I was the manager of the arcade and the ice cream shop for two years then my wife took over, they’re known in the area and don’t have a bad rep so idk 🤷🏻♂️
@@drapeddowndrippedup blast arcade and moo lala in Baytown but millers and the Irish spot maguires is where they always invited me or whoever they were talking to out to but I always had to work 😭😂 hurts
I honestly don't see the issue with Ninja's first comment on Kai. The " He's doing what i could have done if i just stayed home and streamed and didn't go to mixer" because that's probably a true statment and imo mostly ninja seeing where he messed up going to mixer for the bag and not stying where he already had a community of fans built up. But the rest are a bit weird for sure
I completely agree with Nick. I also find it funny how Kai is over here chanting fuck Ninja and somehow ninja is getting all the bullshit. Like when did Ninja come out and do all that? I guess Ronaldo’s reaction was more understandable.
i agree
People don’t realise ninja gets the most shit out of anyone. So, if you see people in your chat daily saying negative shit it’s gonna get to you. Everyone is taking what he says too seriously too Jesus, watch some h1 or halo vods bro he been chatting shit since day one and I love it. Too many people trying to be friends with everyone is tiring
When it comes to ninja, most cannot say anything about him personally cause we're mainly viewers. But most streamers or people with a status or platform of his magnitude have an ego. But nonetheless, his takes on gaming are usually accurate, least with Fortnite. This season has been booty cheeks for the most part lol.
The thing is ninja did it while it was WAY harder to do. So I understand why he would have a bit of resentment towards them since they have it a lot easier these days. Just wish he would have capitalized on it for longevity but he’s decided to stay in his own lane and gotta respect that he’s still able to obtain a decent following at all even after the “fall off”.
11:40 I actually love this breakdown/vouch . Competitors always gonna be a little chippy.
The argument of Ninja only being popular for being good at games is so funny to me. That's why streaming became a thing, gaming. Not idiots dancing around with rappers in their room. Ninja an OG and this younger generation will never understand that
8:10 That's CAAAAP Ninja was NEVER the best, he was just known to be the best but when tournaments started he wasn't even in the convesation when mongraal and all these players came up. Ninja was definitely more entertaining than anything.
He never said “the best “ bozo
I know you didn’t just typed all that when the dude said “good” not “ the best” 😂
@@Misterfister25 well if he is just known for being good then he must be the best right since he had 200k viewers, just some logical both of you don't have.
never knew id like nick so much as an adult i used to watch you way back man, great video & good breakdowns
11:29 😂😂😂 „ehhhhh“ 👅 😂😂😂 nicks bedroom face? 😅
I don’t think it’s shit talking. I would also be upset when these new streamers happen to blow up when social media in general is at its peak. People’s attention span is so low now days so people just kinda forget things. I don’t think ninja gets enough credit in today’s society for what he did in the past for the gaming community
that drunk stream was the best. especially their safe word, PELICAN!!!
Lol i dont think he was drunk. First he hgumilated stable ronaldo just because of low views. He is litterally a hater.
@@dickybalboa825 lol I was in the live stream, they were hammered. But you are partly right.
@@hbaker26_ You mean he was drunk? What about the time when he disrespect stable ronaldo for having a low views, before that day when he collab to Tim? What about the stream of kai and speed when he said something? You must be a big fan and cant accept the fact that the best streamer back then is now a hater and a bad influence. We are not blind dude we all know what is joke and what is for entertainm,ent,
@@hbaker26_ too many streamers hated him and those streamers wont hate him for no reason and all those vidoes are not lying.
I think it’s crazy to say Ninja was only popular because of Fortnite. Couldn’t you say it was the other way around. For me and my group of friends, we only knew about Fortnite from seeing clips of ninja raging. I really feel like he needs to be credited for jump starting Fortnite
Ninja’s the freaking goat. Nick didn’t call him Jefe at the time for no reason. Still watch him some to this day and the guy is a slayer at no builds. If he hurts feelings even the better.
Ninja is great guy, a good person. It’s just the whole essence of who he is as a person, his whole personality, and basically everything that matters in real social situations sucks ass. But he is a great guy tho. Solid 10/10
Remember when Nick used to game and have a laugh instead of speaking on weird and toxic subjects.
He fell off first video in 2 weeks. Nicks trash.
@OregonDonor bruh doesnt he live in Florida? Did he not just deal with Helene effects?
Yet you're still here so I guess you're a raccoon @@OregonDonor
The funniest thing ever about this is streamers expecting other streamers to be professional when nobody really is (on the camera) at the end of the day
Streaming wouldn’t be what it is today without ninja. He’s the first person to show how big you can get with it. All these new streamers need to realize that they’re doing what they’re doing because of him.
But everybody gives him his props tho. And ninja just hates for no reason.
While I'm not a Ninja fan, nothing Ninja said about any of these streamers is bad. They are just a bunch of toddlers that are upset that someone who was doing this well before they came along doesn't bow down them and sing their praises every 5 minutes.
Ninja is a hater and should just keep his 2 cents to himself. Being an og is not an excuse for being a prick.
Love you supporting your friends! We all got those friends like him and sometimes we’re the friends they’re like him. Glad you’re keeping it real like always!!
if you watched this video then yes you have, fool.
that's hard to believe ngl
seen random clips here and there but the first real exposure I had was when he was opening CSGO packs with Tim.
How can you have an opinion about a person you have never heard speak?
@@xtruckx8103 look at his face in nick's thumbnail
Either you "Hate Him" or "Love Him", you can't ignore him.
I used to have respect for this dude man
Dont be disrespectful. You didn't have to watch the video. Nick keep grinding
When i think of gaming ninja is the first person that comes to mind. His talent and way of entertaining his audience was witty and intelligent. One of a kind truly.
98% of tylers viewers were literally 9
So you think Kai's viewers are adults? Cause I'm almost certain Kai has more kids watching him then ninja ever did.
@@sjwright3533 its a mixture of adults, teens and kids with Kai. Ninja strictly plays video games which is more associated with kids than adults. Kai has an overall bigger audience than Ninja ever had because of this mixture
@@acariMnK teens are still kids. I have a 13 and 7 year old myself, Im a very old youtuber, been using RUclips since the 2009, and it's more of a children's vice for content to watch, I do watch nothing but RUclips but I'm not watching Kai Cenat due brain dead things on stream, my kids walk around talking about fanum tax, and all this other nonsense.
Id say the vast majority of Kai's viewers are kids and teens are still kids. Kids are Impressionable, and these content creators now need to be more mature and focused on bettering others and themselves rather than just them selves. These kids now see streamers as role models, parents no longer have that because of the freedom of the internet that we just didn't have access too back then. In the words of Kratos. We must be better.
Why’s it matter
right he was in twitch dms with kids long before doc.
I love Ninja, he gets so much unnecessary hate. He has made a few dumb mistakes, but literally most famous people do. Overall he's a great guy, and he gets better as he ages and mellows out.
There is a difference between being competitive and talking shit while playing video games
and
hating people like Myth (who mind you are one of the og's just like him) for not having as much views as him. He is SO toxic for no reason at all.. those people he shit on are just trying to get up but then we have a 30yr old calling himself Ninja trying to kick people down. Just pathetic.
That video you watched is so spot on it cant get even more accurate. Just because you have him in your good graces for what he did for you doesnt mean he "a good guy".
Kai didnt have ANYTHING to do with him lol. Yet he HAD to say some slimy shit just to bring a man down lowkey.
Just say ur a hater 'n get it over with lol
@@ericwest881stop gobbling on those ninja ballz kid and give the phone back to your parent
Facts bro!!! I agreee
@@VMally Did you come up with that one all on your own? Or did you have to go back to 2012 to find that comeback?
@@Tj_McQueen i went back to 2012 bxch next question.
Not only was it a lot of people but I think everyone forgets that Ninja fucking made gaming mainstream. I'm sure it made everyone more money through viewers going to twitch who normally wouldn't have and brand deals, the list goes on forever. He hosted a fucking new years times square thing like wtf I know it was cringe but whos ever been on that scale as a gamer.
just because he is/was your boy who made u biggest dosent mean he isnt a pos
Id kill to be able to have a beer with Nick man... such a genuine guy. Good morals and values. Known Nick since Bo3 and ive honestly never unsubbed since. Love ya Nick ⚔️🔥
Day 42 of asking Nick why he's okay with talking about his 🍆 size on stream numerous times, knowing his audience consists of children, but holds Dr Disrespect accountable for something no one even knows the truth about. Let's at least talk about the hypocrisy here, right?
I mean I think it’s a clear difference in that and what Dr disrespect did. Nick ain’t going and messaging underage kids talking about his dick
Bro surely you don’t expect these ppl to be anything other than NPCs 🤡 they all hate the Goat & can’t backtrack now, Doc continues to gain viewers & support while they see their numbers drop. Ppl are done supporting fake/phony ppl who just say whatever they think is trendy at the time.
is it really you're thought OR are you paid with that hush mula ?
Once he started being passive-aggressive and backhanded towards Kai breaking his records, I lost all of the small respect I had for Ninja. Dude is like an old head of streaming now 😂
I personally believe the two ton legitimately couldn't get a win on fall guys.... (and it was Glorious watching him slowly snap 😅)
At the end of the day I think ppl just forgot that 99% of online gamers are just pure nerds. It blew up and streamers became rockstars and now even celebs hit that go live button
But back when streaming wasn’t as mainstream they were just a bunch of geeks who didn’t like to go outside. Ninjas just doing nerdy shit.
personally I think Ninja is the way he is ( an a**hole) because thats what made him, hes well known for always yelling, screaming, losing his s**t, thats just my opinion, great video, KEEP IT UP
These dudes were beating Elden Ring you cant tell me they were really struggling with Minecraft. Yea fucking right.
That’s why I like Nick so much he’s like one of the only people who is just straight up Real about such topics and even more, where other people are scared to say stuff to loose they’re Career
Ninja started it all man. Did a lot for the community. Biggest fortnite streamer back then maybe not now but he was the guy and we all knew it
I stopped watching Ninja years ago because all he did was bitched about his teammates/friends. He'd get outplayed, knocked and finished and then cry that it's his teammates fault because they're not revolving around his every step. A grown man genuinely yelling at other grown men over a cartoon video game lol. "It's just banter, new gamers are too soft." There's banter and then there's just bitching. He turned into a complete fun stream vibe killer to me. Him flexing his success over Ronaldo and calling him a failure in that drunk stream was really just seeing into the true self-absorbed mind of Ninja.
If people truly think Kai and Speed weren’t dying on purpose they are zero IQ. That was the most obvious drug out “idea” ever.
Maybe they weren’t exactly dying on purpose. But they weren’t trying 100% to beat the game because they knew it was bringing in viewers if they died. So they were just being careless.
I came over for the first time on that 80k ninja raid when you and PK won the Friday night fortnite. Been hooked on Nick ever since
bro this mf was the biggest streamer in the world at one point. Do be able to that, you need a ungodly level of competitive drive and that competitiveness doesn't' just go away.
Ninja is legit. You dont want a fake friends and dont pay to be your friends
Ninja built this whole his career for everyone. Respect and loyal guy he gets drunk we cant help what we actually feel our emotions but he real good guy and he amazing just like you ...
ninja is the greatest he doesnt need explosions, celebrities, the hottest games, fake laughter, women on stream, etc to be entertaining. ninja is an authentic streamer. Streaming was originally meant for gaming, Kai Cenat made it to where if you dont have anything I just named above the people will not watch you. There was a time when you can just play the game with homies and actually enjoy streaming without trying so hard. Streaming went from Fun and Enjoyment to a Lucrative Entertainment Business. (im 20 years of age btw im not a salty boomer on a rant, ima salty young guy ona rant).
the whole ronaldo thing is so dumb becuase ninja was getting drunk.And lets be honest trying to keep 125k viewers on twitch is very hard and he did it during the fortnite craze.And now fortnite has felloff but still doing good and ninja even now managing 8-10k viewers is still really good becuase now he plays what he wants and just chill
EDIT: and people talking shit back then would honestly not even get offended by it but now saying 1 thing if very bad and the world is after U
Ninja paved the way for these guys to be in the position they are in today, not single handed obviously but for sure he’s an og.
The "FAME" got into this kids head.
All the kids in the comment section on ninjas side is crazy but shows how yall are yourself. If u think a guy out of a ghetto in NYC who made it in life, gonna accept trash talk infront of an audience from a guy with blue hair who cant give credit and always has some negative shi to say, yall are living in a fantasy world. Nothing with being soft here, but if you put out action then deal with a reaction of people, thats how it is. Kai is being real for that and ninja is a legit hater of him, thats facts
Ninja is very competitive. And I think he has an ounce of real ocd. Not just “I gotta keep things tidy” that people think is OCD but isn’t. He must say those extra things because they are their in his mind. He doesn’t really mean it bad. He just has to say it.
Hey man, nice to see such honesty, with relevent argument points rather than just criticising yet being abel to take the time to défend your Friend on several occasions, Big up you man thats cool AF
First off, half of the things Ninja said about Kai weren’t disses. It was just facts. Like they were definitely dying to keep peak hype. The record had been broken almost a year ago now and people act like it never happened so they could come throw it in Ninjas face. You can tell Ty is the type of friend who will bare straight up with you regardless of what’s going on and people can’t handle it
Ninja hate is basically TikTok culture. Every TikTok video & comment is "Ninja actually not complaining for once" when the clips of him complaining about something are less than a minute out of a 3-4 hour stream, once a week or less. You tell on yourself when you say he's not complaining for once/being a dick, etc.. As someone who watches 😂
A lot of these clips also lack context. But the guy with under a thousand subs doesn't wanna give you that context.
Nick keeping it real as always.
Ninja worked hard for what his career is, when people attack his career he gets defensive. He’s competitive and knew it wasn’t easy so an attack on his achievements is an attack on him personally. So if people are constantly saying Kai this Kai that, it would get old fast. Especially when Ninja started is the competitive gaming scene not just the entertainment scene
The Ronaldo thing wasnt the first instance it was just the biggest one. Ninja has always been a jealous hater of anyone doing better than him. Dude has a history of back handed comments that go back to when his career just started to pick up, and he made those stone sober. Ninja is one of those "I want to see you do good but not better than me" type dudes.
I was never a big fan of Ninja in terms of gaming but between donations and boosting up other streamers the dudes done more than majority of the content creators currently.
Perfectly said! Talking shit was part of the game. We all did it and forgot about it at the end of the night. Kids didn’t need emotional support animals or safe spaces.
Hey Nick. Love the new format you've been doing. Very entertaining 💯🤟
"He's that friend that you've got to scream at every now and again it's just how it is." Nickmercs 2024
ninja is the prime example of what happens when someone receives more success than they deserve, he had the public image of being the first "best" fortnite player at the very peak of the game so all the kids went to him. if that did not happen hed still just be a normal chill streamer with his loyal core fanbase and all of the mistakes and ego and everything else never would have happened
Next video should be, "top streamers tuck tail like liberals over Doc false allegations." Hell, you could even be the thumbnail bro with Timmy!
I understand the frustration behind some comment's he's made, but I also understand the reason Ninja come's off that way too, I can't imagine having thousands of people spamming you about other creator's on a regular basis when you're just trying to vibe and game.
real people recognize that we are all pricks. The true measure of a person is how they treat you and look out for you. Thats where true friendships are and where true people are.
Ninja isn't just a Twitch Streamer and Entertainer. Ninja is a pro-gamer, simple as that. He built his empire off his skill.
Good to see nick ain't hop on the hate bandwagon. Tone policing a streamer because off some clips from probably long live streams is just corny.
i love this era of nickmercks
When you said the 1800's i was in the middle of eating and almost spit my food out. Caught me off guard. Keep up the content. Love ittt!!!!!
Ninja comes from the halo days. Shit talking is very normal in this space. Plus he’s lit during most of the clips
Ninja is a fucking inspiration to the gaming world. If there is ever a gaming "Hall of Fame" he should be the first one in there.
We have a saying where I'm from, "if you got nothing good to say, keep your mouth shut". Maybe that's what Ninja should do.
Ninja is the real deal. He’s not fake, what you see is what you get. The people who really know ninja personally all defend him, and that speaks volumes.
I mean, it’s 2024 and we are still talking about Ninja. He’s doing something right!! 😂😂😂
I literally watch Ninja's videos because he's entertaining as hell and says some funny s*** and does some funny voices and has an energy that other streamers can't replicate. To say that he is not entertaining is pretty far from the truth.
Ninja gets a little too big headed sometimes but you can tell he’s a good friend to people he cares about.
It reminds me of listening to all the greats talk about their records being broken…like Jordan on Lebron passing him and in the mlb with homeruns in baseball…those guys might be older but they are all still very competitive and don’t like to give out too much credit
Broooo😂😂😂😂😂😂 5:20 “Tim, wow he’s really saying this”
The backhanded compliment shit is definitely annoying. but i don’t understand how people expect Ninja to feel when they spam him basically saying “Kai is doing better than you! He just broke your record”. Like maybe he wouldn’t have cared that much before but now thousands are spamming him and that’s also probably mad annoying. Also, it’s not like Kareem looked incredibly thrilled when Lebron broke his scoring record. It’s just how competitive people are, when you’re able to say you hold a record in something as big as basketball or twitch streaming, it kinda sucks to not be able to say that anymore.