A LOVELETTER to the Titanfall 2 Movement System
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mokeysniper are you going to try out the daltoosh grapple?
This is fantastic!! I can't imagine how long it took to make this video, it's now my favourite one on YT!
Simple and sweet. I can't believe how easy you make it look XD
Loved the video thanks mokey.
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@Khaffit yes i wanted a slow and "frustrating" builtup to have a greater payoff
“What is he doing?”
“He’s beginning to believe.”
I see what you did there. Keep going bud
Legit just watched the movie yesterday
I didn't get the refrence,please tell me which movie
Matrix
Best comment award goes to you sir
God that first bit where its just walking was too painful to watch. Like every part of me was screaming, "THERES A WALL USE IT". but it really does drive the point home of how distinct the movement is
This is me silently judging anyone I see walking on the ground, but not calling them out on it because I figure they're still learning.
Same i just wanted to control the movement of him and just go with my instinct
imagine if you could use walls in apex
same here i was dying inside
There should be a legend that has this type of movement but for his ultimate or whatever that’d be so freaking OP though lol
"...A pilot sees the world differently. Sheer walls become flanking routes..."
That was the exact quote that made me realize what I had to do to be successful in multiplayer. When I first got the game I treated it like CoD and got gunned down immediately by pilots whizzing over my head, then I played the campaign and saw that cutscene, and it clicked.
That sentence should be corrected. Even a sheer metal pole can be a flanking route.
@@enderan647 Hehe Coliseum goes woooosh
@@snaildad193 yeah, Titanfall 2 works a bit differently lol. The best sniper player I've seen was a guy doing grapple trick on the map to get close to his target in a matter of seconde. Then he would one-shot the poor target with a well placed hipfire shot.... a *hipfire*
@@Sir_Bucket Yeah hipfire kraber gods are insane man. Wish I could put in the time to get that good.
It honestly breaks my heart that this game barely sold.
Apex legends will be the concept for the next great Titanfall game
@@Mathiakle Lets hope they will make a titanfall 3 and people will play it.
@@Mathiakle apex is titanfall without Titans
@@Alkiel nah not rly.. movement system is very different
@@myrexcontent5840 ok. I had both Titanfall 1&2. for BRs i stick with PUBG. I downloaded Apex and Fortnite, but i never played more than a couple games on either.
When you thought he couldn't get faster but the vid still had 3 minutes left
Haven't you seen part 2 of the video?
He went so fast, he released part 2 before part 1.
HAHAHA
Titan Fall 2 is such a masterful game, created by huge brain individuals. The maps crafted so that pilots and titans could have even fighting grounds, so that maps aren't too one sided. And what about movement? A movement system with such a high skill gap allowing players to and I quote, "fall with style" move them selves at incredible speeds with grace and persicion, whilst keeping the game balanced by having bullets slow you down so much that your average Joe could kick these little blue birds out of the sky, but a full lobby of high skill movement expert would be a spectacle to behold, pilots, yeeting through the air with grace and speed, damage boosting, slidehopping, titanflying. A truly underrated game. And this video shows its potential
Thank you I am tuna
im a year late but this...this is
immaculate
I felt the passion from this comment.
apex would have been all time best game if it took after TF2 movement/gameplay. all they had to do is just put more time into the maps.
I agree, except for one thing. I hate crash site and think it’s one of the only unbalanced maps in the game
I was expecting some high level in depth analysis, but they managed to explain everything without saying a single word. Truly great video.
After I watched this I tried it I learned some good was to get around that day
You know what they say "Actions are stronger than words"
?
@@aperson925 You mean "action speaks louder than words" is the same thing with your word but that what i heard alot (or maybe not am asian i can't see the different XD).
This dude literally SHOWED us what was in the letter without TELLING us a single thing. Actually amazing.
What
what
Wow it's almost as if it says "LOVELETTER" in the title, not that far a jump to realize what's in the 'letter' lmao
@@skjutmig8825 what
Look guys! Marcos was just amazed at a genius thing that is underused in media storytelling today. It's called "Show, don't tell!"
I love how in Apex people found out you could maintain momentum while healing if you bhopped and then players got mad because it was "unintended" and "unfair". Movement shooters are dead and it hurts to see it
Yh
All those 5 people who ever saw it in the game of all those 3 people who actually use it.
It sucks man. I was really bummed out when they removed it because it made it possible to deal with third-party people that aren't completely brain-dead Bots.
Anybody can beat Bots who come to third party but when it's good players that's when it's really tough. I remember being able to b hop heal a phoenix kit while listening to the oncoming footsteps of the third-party rushing into the building to finish us off, but I was already be hopping my way out of the building with a phoenix kit so that I could fight a fair fight full health versus full health instead of just being gunned down because I'm a Sitting Duck healing.
Me and my buddies knew the game wouldnt be the same again as soon as they patched it. It really sucks. The worst part about the third party is that you never stood a chance because you never had time to stand a chance. Movement is very fast in Apex Legends because of the jump Towers, people can hear your gunshots hop on a jump Tower make a Pathfinder zipline and just speed right on over to you to kill you ASAP while you're still trying to raise your teammate who then has to use a phoenix kit after being raised. I still play but it doesn't feel the same and the skill ceiling has been lowered because of it. It's not like it was hard to learn I didn't understand why people complain
Rain hey man, I’ve got good news for you. There’s a character in the game Apex legends called octane. People see him as terrible and the worst legend, and they are mostly right. But here’s one thing octane and only octane has going for him. He is the only character who can still B-hop heal. If you stim as octane you can heal while b-hopping
@@DDK413 Interesting, I'm testing it out now in firing range and it's not the exact same amount of speed as the original bhop heal but its defiinitely there compared to all other legends. Thanks for the heads up. I have a buddy who mains octane and I don't think he knows about this either, I never get to play him so i didnt even know about it. Lifesaver bro.
What a great game
@Odd Taggynn he is a legend.those vids are masterpieces
You're video is a masterpiece
u better make a video on the movement in this game
Best pixel man EU
It’s sad it’s dying
"this kid's bunny hopping all the way from ivy, out middle, through our connector like a speed demon"
*Through ivy, out middle, through our connector!*
Bhopping
admin he doing it sideways
@@arnerademacker8548isn't
Nice scripts dude
ive never played titanfall, and as someone who loves movement shooters, wtf was i thinking
You missed out for sure man
you still can
@@fragarena9910 I didn't have a console at the moment that it's available for, but now that it's come out on steam you bet I've been grinding that shit lol
@@cuwudi How's the movement progression going for you?
@@hotsingleplaguedoctorinarea im alright at the grapple strafe but havent had much practice bhopping
This is a really cool idea and the phase shift reset is really creative!
Thanks :) Glad you enjoyed it
@@Mokey the phase shift was a good transition but i think phase rewind would fit better if you wanna show a reset of an area or movement sequence
is this wraith?
@@magungp this ain't Apex Legends.
@@BubbleButtGaming sad but true..."veterans" still play titanfall 2, as the game is more populated every day :). New gen play apex...as a fan of titanfall universe I can say that apex is sh#t compared to titanall. We all wait titanfall 3, but I think all we need is new content for titanfall 2.
Gamers: "i want something new and exciting. Same crappy games every single year."
Titanfall 2: praised by critics and fans for its new and exciting innovative gameplay
Gamers: "aight ima play COD again"
Corbin Taylor if they‘d launch Titanfall 3 in a few years everybody would love it, because now respawn has the attention of everybody
@@actually_no_ttv3868 if the Movment system is the same i would buy it becaus that one major point for my love for it
Lukas Duve Same
@@olympic_lks9307 hopefully they dont dumb it down... i think they think alot of people were too intimidated to learn tf2's movement system. Hense apex is much much more of a classical shooter. Fingers crossed that titanfall 3 gets to stay true to itself.
Lukas Duve it’s not just the movement, it’s the map design. Tf2 has he best map design in recent history with their maps, completely built around high mobility. That’s why everyone likes tf2s movement and hates cod advanced warfares. Similar movement, very different results
This is the most perfect example of “Show don’t tell” I’ve ever seen. You should be proud of yourself for this. One of the best videos on Titanfall 2 and it doesn’t say a single word.
"describe titanfall 2 to me"
warframe with doom on the side and a little spice of transformers and mecha anime, plus the little hint of spiderman
Captain Low Price a little bit of everything
I think that the bit difference with Warframe (on which I have like 1000 hours) and Titanfall 2 (even tho I never tried this game and I now feel like I should) is that in Warframe, the movement system is lacking the need of skill and the use of physics. But on the other side, in Warframe in comparison to Titanfall 2 and other games, Warframe has a "fast physics" which is much more realistic from an acceleration (like gravity) point of view because they know their players will handle fast movements. And both systems are clearly amazing.
@@felixbertoni Warframe is literally just slide -> jump -> slide -> jump spam with ocassional roll and aimglide
Gewel ✔ yea, the one easy part to understand about warframe is how to speed run, everything else they don’t really tell you😂
@@GewelReal tbh that's not it to be most fast but slide -> jump -> jump -> quickly roll in the air after jump-> slide -> repeat
Or maybe roll then jump, I don't remember the movement became so automated I don't even do it consciously.
"What if we used 100% of the brain?"
Mokeysniper:
This is actually a misconception. We use every part of the brain, all 100%, just not all at the same time.
@@zach3861 It's a film quote, guy.
from the film "lucy" where the protagonist unlocks every sort of power by using the 100% of her brain
@@StraySquirrelBk and limitless
Bro, this is more than %100
One friend told me that he doesn't want to go back to a game with a non-Respawn movement (be it Titanfall or Apex), and honestly I completely understand him, even if I still play other games. Every time I just want to double jump or climb a wall or run on it.
I honestly sometimes try to wall run in apex
But then im like, this isn't titanfall
@@ummhi4087 I've been playing apex the last few days and whenever I come off of tf2 and on to apex I will just run at walls expecting to wallrun.
wall running is so amazing. its the reason why cod bo3 is still my favourite cod
Yeh, Titanfall is just so much more fast-paced and thrilling (in large part due to its movement system) and it makes other shooters feel slow and clunky.
I just love how you treat the movement in this game like an art
That's how it should be treated
Best Friend It is an art
Cause it is.
OakeyDoakey9 oh hey oakey
(This is DecafFour86)
Ever played like this with face paced music blasting in a match? Some other shit tbh
Apex players : Yey I’m a predator
Pilots : awe how cute
Trueee
Yes! 😁 Oh you think you are a pro Pathfinder with his movement? Play Titanfall 2 if you want to really learn how to grapple and move 😆
@@burnswhenipvp1337 I'd argue that the double jump makes grappling far easier in titanfall. you don't really have to time grapple-jumps at all
@@meeperdudeify yes but Titanfall you can stack momentum more than apex. So I would argue it makes your reaction time faster for when you play apex. Double jump is optional and I dont use it for my grapple swings because the grapple has more range in Titanfall , but you are right you don't need the jump for it in Titanfall. You also can't manipulate the grapple swing in Titanfall like you can in apex, but it has more range in Titanfall. I feel like playing one makes me better at the other so I swap between the two games. 😁
@@burnswhenipvp1337 wdym you can't manipulate grapple swing in Titanfall??
funny how two games with the abbreviation "tf2" have two of the greatest movement systems games have seen in a while.
so true!!!
Pog
Maybe it secretly stands for “the fastest 2”
Rocket Jumps comming in Titan Fall ??? !!!!
@@-jc8578 satchels or frags are the closest you get. It would be funny if the archer had knockback to do it
I haven't touched the game in a long time, but I remember playing every single day for 2 straight years before school and work were important. Just watching you slowly piece together the movement system actually had me in tears for a sec. This vid felt soo nostalgic to me, learning how to bunny hop, grapple launch, grav star boost. Learning how to get faster and faster, while still being able to aim a gun like brO THIS GAME IS WILD. Thank you for reminding me of one of my favorite games of all time.
I played on PC and it made me really sad how small of a playerbase there was. It was a struggle to find a match but I eventually started playing with this streamer that got recomended to me, we did 1v1s in the collisium everyday until he ran out of tickets (which took ages) we made stream parties and played loads of attrition and pilot vs pilot. I never actually talked to him in a vc, but we had fun. I would still play it if the playerbase hadn't dissapeared on PC.
@@willmcc05 In Europe, people still play. Come over some day with your laptop and give the game a spin :)
@@eraleenleyt2782 yeah im in au so finding games is almost impossible
Crisp even on console. I remember getting home and and trying to find a match. If sit there for a good 5 minutes between matches But they were so worth it. Every game was super fun. And the movement really is the best part of the game. I just wish more people played It deserves a bigger player base. And the community has always been better than cod 😂
southstaronline PS4. But Before apex the player base was pretty small. Only about 20k on during the time I played
"I fear no man..."
"But that... Thing"
*looks at monkeysniper*
"It scares me"
One shudders to imagine what inhuman thoughts lie behind that mask; what dreams of cronic and sustained cruelty?
Meet: The Pyro
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After playing Titanfall 2 just about everyday until Apex came out, and then watching this video, I started to tear up a bunch. I really miss TF|2's movement so much. It was a masterpiece
@@__5983 I'll have to get back in there soon!
Northstar mod brotha
This video is very accurate. My Northstar is never not on fire.
Facts bro. So lightweight.
I upped my titan game significantly when I decided to only eject when 100% necessary. I die in my titan more often now, but I regularly double or triple my kills during the doom state. I like to think part of it is the pressure of being on the verge of death. It helps you play more cautiously but also feel free to be reckless when you need to? Flaming Northstar for life.
us snipers tho
Play scorch without tempered plating and always be on fire too
I got goosebumps when the grapple hook scenes started. I haven't even played this game.
Dew it
So this game is like doom eternal? But before and with even more movement...?
@@vlackrock and giant 15 ton death machines
@@vlackrock Look man, Eternal is amazing but it is nothing compared to the movement system in titanfall. Eternal's grapple is just for reaching high places but TF grapples are godly.
@VeloCi_KrT the only thing you can actually customize are buffs to your Titan, not entire loadouts, though that would've been awesome.
"I see what's happening here
You're face to face with greatness, and it's strange
You don't even know how you feel
It's adorable!
Well, it's nice to see that humans never change"
What is this? Who?
What’s the comment from?
@@cd2294 yee
@Pheonix _ it’s a song from Moana XD j what came to mind while watching this masterpiece
"Honestly kid, I can go on and on, I can explain every speed-based phenomenon.
Blurs of red at the speed of sound? Oh, those are pilots just messin' around."
This a very clever showcase of Titanfall's movement. Makes for fall more in love with the game
I wish i was as good as him lol. Also its so satisfying to watch
i can just imagine a CoD player who's playing Tf2 for the first time, see someone else doing this and calling it speed hacks lol
I've been playing cod since world at war and black ops 1 and can happily say I excepted all of this from this game I mean you legit fight big fucking robots and have all this futuristic stuff for crying out loud either way I love this game its one of my favorite games of all time.
@@bruhmoment0264 fair enough, it is a great fucking game
@@alextutino1265 yup
@@bruhmoment0264 ok atleast you played the good cods.
I’m a cod player and I’m not saying that
This is pure beauty to every tf2 sweat living! I don’t got the strafe down to that degree after about 2,3 bounces I loose the bouncing momentum
Release the w key mate
Don’t press forward
this is beauty to a former titanfall 1 player, i adore this
It was so smooth how the music subtly crept in around the run starting at 2:25.
So calm and flowy, fit so well with the movement. Almost therapeutic in a sense.
Got this game on sale a few months post-release, spent countless night replaying the campaign and trying to find games on multiplayer. Time went on and I got caught up in life and other games.
I found this video a week ago, reinstalled TF2 and I've gone up a generation and a half since. Thank you for bringing me back to a game I loved and missed without even knowing it.
This video in it‘s entirety, title, cuts and content is in my opinion a full on masterpiece. I watched it for the first time a couple months ago and I keep coming back to it. It remains a mindblowing experience for me each time and you really made me wanna play Titanfall. You can really be proud of yourself
And the gameplay is uhhhhh 🔥
99% of FPS tutorials:
"Press [button] to move faster!"
Titanfall:
"Ey- you see that wall over there?- Well, let me tell ya..."
That wall there? That's my wall.
True
*proceeds to wall run on the wall*.
But then there's a STIM powerup in the game ;/
you being cringe by quoting out that fucking gay :)
Just started playing Apex this past week because Covid's got me bored. Within a day, I find that Pathfinder's grapple was incredible and insanely versatile. I want to learn more.
Three days ago I wanted to learn more about his movement, so I look up some movement details.
> Wait, this is made in Source?? (kinda)
I rebind keys and try again, failing miserably. I come to Mokey's YT channel and am floored by what's even possible in Apex. Pathfinder hitting Mach 2 and airstrafing a Peacekeeper shot into the head of groundling noob.
> This video pops up in my Recommended.
I'm buying Titanfall 2 right fucking now.
Edit: It's... only $2.99. That's shovelware prices after only 4 years, wow...
Edit V2: oh and now it's free on ps-plus.
My personal comment: Most people complain how the game isn't free on any other platform tho but I'm just pissed that it's free at all. Titanfall 2 deserves better. If cod is $60/£40 game then Titanfall 2 is worth £100 which is god knows what in dollars.
The movement in apex is what stopped me from getting into it. The lack of Titanfall 2 parkour really makes you feel kinda trapped.
@@noblebork7444 bruh Ive never played titan fall2 but holly fuck apex is amazing compared to other games. Im scared that If I play titanfall, Ill never play anything else
N A it makes the game feel so slow and I just wish there was at least a mode that had this exact movement
Lmao path gin nerfed
*phases*
Hey you, you're finally awake
You were trying to cross the border right?
black mirror right?
I heard this comment
zvi spears Nah I’m pretty sure Fortnite
Im playing skyrim at the moment and watching videos about titanfall 2 and i see your comment lmao, this is a sign from talos and the other divines
There really is an art to the simple flow of movement that just allows you to glide freely in a captivating environment.
It just makes me wish that Apex could’ve only had the same movement and not just the slide and small bounce hops.
When I first played apex I tried to do all the stuff I’m so used to in titanfall, the game just felt sluggish, pathfinder was the only character I liked cause of the grapple hook
@@martinfernandez5127 Same, when I knew Apex was from the same team that made this game I hoped that moved the same as Titanfall 2, felt a bit dissapointed when I played it
Its feel like they were ''wall'' of sort of like the game itself want it to push more faster more jump more slide, but a ''thing'' cant like a rope was holding me to the ground. Hope Apex did not kill titanfall I really really hope...
@@yvesgingras1475 Oh, dont worry. Titanfall 3 is confirmed buddy. Unless you are talking about its audience. Then maybe.
I though this as well, at first, but the more I think about it the more I realize having crazy fast movement like we see here in Apex would make for a pretty terrible game. Put it this way - battle royale type games are generally very slow-paced, while Titanfall 2 is a fast-paced team shooter. Dying in Titanfall has little impact, as you're able to respawn in less than 3 seconds - as such, it makes sense for the movement to be fast and kill times to be even faster. In Apex, engagements and kill times are much slower which is why it really wouldn't make sense to have the hyper-fast movement from Titanfall.
If you did add the Titanfall movement to Apex, it would create a very hostile game environment for everyone but the most experienced Tf players - people already familiar with the movement mechanics would annihilate newer players due to being too fast to aim at, while also having practiced their aim while moving. Since the average player speed would be so much higher, the kill ring in Apex would need to close much faster too to account for this, which would cause even more difficulty for players who aren't as well-versed with the movement mechanics. Making the game environment so punishing to newcomers would inevitably drive players away, and therefore generate less interest in the game.
It sounds like a good idea on paper, but in practice it just wouldn't work. Maybe they could have a titanfall-themed gamemode as one of their limited time gamemode they release on occasion - that'd be interesting to play, and still let people play normally if they wanted.
As soon as the grapple came out I stopped everything I was doing and got on Titanfall 2. Such a good freakin game. Thanks for the awesome vid.
This is sick. Soon as you hit the first rewind I knew exactly what was happening. Very simple but effective way to show how the movement works, and even kinda works as a teaching aid for new players. Great job man.
Glad you liked it :) with the teaching in mind I had each run labeled, but I decided the art and builtup/payoff was more important here
It insane how fluid the movement is. It's even crazier when you realize that's that fluid but it still accommodates giant robots (and their movement) without leaving the pilots on foot out to dry.
This makes me want to get titanfall
Good
Do it, it's usually pretty cheap and you'll find attrition and frontier matches pretty easily
Try not to give up when u suck, it takes months to learn even some basics of advanced movement. Good luck though
Did you ever get around to doing it?
@@sonder_1620 i sure as hell got back into the seat of my northstar
God I love how pretty much every map is designed in a way that allows stuff like this to be done, you could swear the dev's knew these kinda stunts would be done.
What? Ur trying to say that they actualy put time and thought into the map design? Sad what gaming standards have become
Not sure why this was in my recommendeds but I'm so glad it was. the movement and gunplay in this game was unmatched
Thanks algorithm :)
I remember when Iniquity was one of the most respected players for being able to bunny hop so greatly. Good days...
Slide hop?
@@aname6104 it’s the same thing, people just call it bunny hopping because it’s a concept that’s been around since Quake which came out in the 90’s
@@shenaniganz9443 bunny hopping like in quake actually is in the game it just sucks and is more difficult then slide hopping
@@bottaco7519 can be useful though when in a pinch
One day, I got three of my friends who're really into Apex to play a couple games with me and a friend of mine in Titanfall. Me and him, modestly speaking, are pretty great at this game (like I'm sure you all are.)
One was extremely familiar with Titanfall, and we had met in it, but he always found the Apex gameplay loop more "relaxing", without all these mechanics to understand. He hasn't grown the muscle memory yet, but he still has fun. More so in Titans.
The other, she owned Titanfall before, but had an extremely tough time coming back to it after playing so much Apex. All she did was jump while sprinting, and the occasional slide-hop. Which is really all you can do in Apex. She was frustrated from time to time, but since the gunplay was the same, that felt great to her.
The third got Titanfall 2 for free when it was a PS plus title in December. She had played Apex first, and now with all this bullshit, was having the time of her goddamn life. And it didn't matter if she sucked, I don't care to remember if she even did.
So if you've got friends who are more into Apex than Titanfall in general, don't judge. Titanfall might be a leagues better game and have deeper design, but while I love Titanfall, I'm trash at Apex. In there, they carry me. Which is why I hope that Titanfall 3 caters to both styles of gameplay.
And if you're more into Apex and are giving Titanfall a try, just, try to take it slow, king. I believe in you.
Apex or Titanfall, we can _all_ be fans of Respawn. 👌
If Titanfall 3 compromises it's movement to appeal to Apex Legends fans who want an easy movement system, I will turn into a fucking ostrich
@@Greyimm Easy or simple? Those two things aren't really the same thing.
Now, I haven't played Titanfall (yet?), but I don't think you need some hours of practice just to do a simple wall jump/kick like you do in Apex, which in the grand scheme of things is an irrelevant move anyway. And the sad part is that's pretty much the apex (no pun intended) of Apex Legends' movement system.
It's simple.
@@LecherousLizard Difficulties lie in timings and staying consistent. The longer you are in a slide, the more momentum you lose. You have to jump the moment you hit the ground, jump too late and you slow down, jump too early and you lose everything. Same things with wallruns, jumping away as soon as you touch the wall gives you the most momentum. You can see in this video how during the bunny hops the gun stays sideways and moves into normal position when touching the ground. In a perfect bunny hop the gun moves minimally or doesn't move at all from the sideways position. Furthermore, when you're bunny hopping you don't hold W but hold A or D instead and slowly move your mouse in that direction, it's kinda like a slalom skiing. And when you reach the wall you have hold down W or you fall off the wall. And you're doing all of that while in a gunfight because the speed keeps you alive. Sliding to a wall and kicking off it is not some irrelevant move in Titanfall, it's a lifesaver and a core aspect of movement. Good Titanfall players have the movement system ingrained in their instincts, where they don't have to think about what they're doing and can consistently time their jumps and keep the bunny hops going while doing all the other stuff. And they already made it easier compared to Titanfall 1. It would be a tragedy if such a system was butchered and replaced with an easier option like Quake Champions did, where they tossed all of this out the window and made it so that you can just hold down space bar and the game automatically bunny hops for you.
@@MrNotBot Wrote an essay, but has problems comprehending two sentences.
The first thing that is an eyesore is that you think I said that it's an irrelevant move in Titanfall, even though I specifically said "Apex". Secondly from personal experience I know there's exactly zero need for any kind of strafing to bhop in Apex Legends. Are you saying it's required in Titanfall or Apex?
Another thing is that you are saying it's easier compared to Titanfall 1, but unless you specifically mean Titanfall 2, I don't see that being the case, because for something that you claim is essentially a basic move, it's rather hard to time in Apex Legends. How did people get through the tutorial in Titanfall, if a basic move requires some hours of practice at bare minimum?
@@LecherousLizard You're making assumptions based on your apex experience which is not representative of how the movement works in Titanfall. And I'm trying to explain how shit works in Titanfall.
You specified that the slide into wall boost move is irrelevant in apex to which I responded that it's invaluable in Titanfall. Perhaps I should have followed it with "unlike Apex" for clarification. And yes, airstrafing is mandatory in Titanfall 2 even if you want to be at least an average player.
Movement was harder in Titanfall 1 compared to Titanfall 2, yes, as there wasn't any sliding. Titanfall 2 gives you much more leeway compared to the first game, making it much easier.
What you also (understandably) don't understand is that the tutorials in Titanfall, both 1 and 2, suck balls. On top of that new players come into the game with the preconception about how the game is supposed to be played based off mainstream shooters. The game doesn't teach you how to move nor is it required to get through tutorial/campaign. And yet the movement in Titanfall is not a gimmick like it was in that one futuristic CoD of Duty, it's a core component of the game. Bhopping, airstrafing, side jumping, wall boosting, wall turning and jump timings are fundamental techniques that are needed to play properly. But only when you get into multiplayer will you understand the necessity of it. Or you won't and you'll think that the MP is bullshit. Even if you have godlike aim. Players in MP who don't grasp the movement system are extremely obvious to veterans and are free kills. Newbies straight up need to be pointed by veterans towards online guides and demonstrations like this video to understand how the system actually works.
As a player who has been playing the game for over 2 and a half years, putting in more than 5,000 hours and really becoming the best I can be. Becoming a top tier player and really learning everything I can and perfecting my skills. From first learning to slide hop to gaining speed through slide hopping and first learning to grapple slingshotting to being able to do it anywhere, I would like to say this video was amazing and really shows how good the movement system can be once you take the time to learn it, and it’s not super complicated. I believe anyone can do it in no time. You did a great job showing what you can do and starting out slow really compares it to other games and shows how fast you can really go in titanfall 2. It’s really astonishing to see how well this video was made. It’s really creative and I enjoyed every second watching. I really needed a video like this for the game, to really show how good it can be and how much fun you can have just by moving around. :)
so where's a good place to learn this shit. im running around like a noob in the campaign but im digging the learning curve.
Mike Kampmeyer well if you play on ps4 or pc I could show you
Mike Kampmeyer there’s also a good amount of RUclips videos on how to do time once you get good at that then you start to understand how it works and can then implement it anywhere like I can
Bassi hallo
legoo_man yuh
If I could describe Titanfall 2 in one word it would be "flow". If I could describe Apex Legends in one word it would be "strategy".
loved the part where gibraltar said "OIM OPANIN DA SSKAAYS BRUDDDA!!" and then threw his ultimate on our own team. Truly one of the apex legendss experiences
Kid: Cool, it’s Wraith’s ability from Apex Legends!
I, a Titanfall veteran: I will personally erase you.
@Hatwox Wraith is 32 years old, Apex Legends takes place 30 years after Titanfall 2. They already mastered the ability of phase shift. Wraith’s ability was an IMC project.
@Hatwox a perfect example
Is titanfall 2 like.. based on infinite warfare?
Deus.machina 😠😠😠 no don’t ever compare them
@@nkk8621 outside this guys house:
*"PREPARE FOR TITANFALL!"*
This entire video was just mesmerising for me to watch, it took me back through the learnings of a game I don’t think I’ll play again. Although I don’t think I’ll stick around for more, this was an amazing video, keep it up homie.
Started getting into “movement shooters” after playing Apex Legends and can’t believe I missed this game. This vid alone got me to purchase this game in 2020.
This video has such a strong vibe, mokey is so tonally aware of his content. Really satisfying..
Thanks so much :) Just this little word combo "tonally aware" makes me really happy .
All the best things are! This video included 🤩
everyone watching this that appreciates the movement should speedrun this game. join us.
Bryonato I know what I’m bout to try ;)
70 reais for a dead game, nah
@@eltacobanido6307 says the boy who is reading through comments on a titanfall video. Get out of here boy.
@@eltacobanido6307 I'm glad you think it's dead. Stick to coding cheats for other games.
Wasn't expecting you here. And too slow, I'm already in the discord
Normal players: it's hard for me to do it good
Mokeysniper: it's hard for me to make it easier
I love how in the beginning, he's struggling to not airstrafe.
The thumbnail reads out like one of those weird boss/thug ads
Mafia city?
@@joea7590 that's how mafia works.
@@farooqmohammed316 ima make you pop like that
Bruh
That's what I thought it was gonna be
His transitions are so smooth that everytime he goes thru a window i get confused like
-is this the same map?
Wait, did he make transitions using the windows? I didn't even notice!
Erick Fernando in some of this yes
Also in his other videos
overall satisfying and great to watch
And to think that it all started with some dudes from Infinity Ward messing with the Source engine, truly a masterpiece of the last decade.
I love how the movement in this game is basically its own mini-game. Its like they threw in CS:GO surfing with some Spider-man shit and let us go nuts. Its really sad that Titanfall 2 didn't do better than it did. Thankfully they were able to re use some of those assets in Apex Legends and find some much deserved success.
timtam92 I literally searched for the CS:GO surf comment dude ^^ it is crazy how similar it looks
EA tanked it on purpose so they could buy off respawn and milk it raw.
This is what we had with Tribes. Hell, even Tribes:Vengeance had the grapple. The primary movement mechanic in Tribes was skiing. Use a downward slope to build speed, find an upward slope and just fly through the map and kill other players. If only the IP didn't get bought by HiRez Studios to get shelved and die.
@@sentry4944 for real, tribes was the best, can't believe they shafted it and put their resources into a Moba that no one plays
This game is built in the source engine. Modified of course but it's source at the core.
Random Mate : "Why don't you like Apex Legends?"
Me, a veteran tf2 player and man of culture : *shows him this video*
As someone who played both team fortress 2 and titanfall 2 I had to scratch my brain for a second.
On the other hand this explain why they removed the movement on purpose. You can pretty much zip around Kings Canyon easily.
Sure apex isn’t as good as this game, but i love that game cause it’s fast paced and really fun.
@Mach my brain is hurting
@@justanidiotwithcars I was like: wtf does this guy want with Team Fortress now
This makes me emotional, it is amazing to see that others deeply love this game as much as it deserved. This beauty of this game wasnt realized to the mainstream for some time. Such unlimitless potential the universe respawn has made. Titanfall will forever be a genuine classic in a class of its own in my eyes.
One of the most underrated games. This should’ve been Respawns mainly focused game😪❤️❤️ They should forget about apex and start working on a third imo
Ok. Going to buy this game right now.
I play quite a bit of destiny 2 and apex legends, but have always felt the movement in both games was lacking something. Especially destiny.
They should pay you a finders fee cuz you just sold this game
Make sure to learn the bunny hops
If you on PC, lets play together man
and, how's the campaign?
@@tabnk2 the campaign is fantastic. Just go see a review it been praised by alot of peoples
@@tabnk2 top 5 campaigns I've ever played easily.
This is what I send now to my friends when they ask me why I find Valorant unbearable.
Ye I could only really play as bet tbh
Don't know about Valorant, but CSGO still has great deep movement mechanics that are hard to master but feel super rewarding
The phase edit was really creative. This the first video ive seen of yours but i got it immediately. Good job displaying the diversity and also the skill ceiling of movement in this game
when he used the grapple, i just came
Nasty perv
Same
@@misterraider7212 wtf
Same
@@TheseBygones bruh
Hey, I'm a "veteran" from Team Fortress 2 (1k hours which is really not much compared to other peoples).
For those of you who don't know what it is, it's a FPS launched in 2007 which survives to this day. It's also one of the best mouvement based shooter I have ever seen, jsut type "zero to hero sfm" if you want a sample of what I mean.
I love Team Fortress 2 to my heart, but I gor bored of the game (after 5 years still), I moved on to other FPS, but I never found another game which truly gave me that feeling that you could do anything if you were skilled enough with the movements. That was until I found out about Titanfall 2.
When I saw you use the grav star to gain momentum I just smiled. When you air-strafted after ejecting from the Titan I got a little emotionnal.
THIS. This is the rype of design that made me fall in love with Team Fortress 2 in the first place. The fact that there are an endless amount of tricks you can use to move around, the fact that all of them are actual technics that you need to master before using them, but have a massive advantage once you do.
THIS is the true strenght of movement base FPS. That thing which gives the game an infinit amount of depht. Even countering movement has some of it!
Example: It's good to be able to snipe anyone on the map, but can you snipe them if they use movements you have never seen before? With unpredictable trajectories? Not at first, but with enough practice you can guess where they go and get them!
So, as the "relativly" old player I am, I can say what you all got there is a gem of a game. A thing that I thought didn't exist anymore. Don't be sad that it isn't the center of attention, I assure you it will outlast Overwatch, Rainbow 6, Cyberpunk and all the AAA games.
Talking about tf2 on a tf2 video, I love the irony
tf2 is a really good game. but i think tf2 is better than tf2
I wish that in Apex Legends Jack Cooper was a Legend with the passive to move like a pilot, cloak like in the campaign but for his ult lets be honest they aren't adding a titan to Apex
They will add the dreaded Smart Pisto-**Snap**
I love your idea, and your pfp
Just finished the campaign today, and tbh that smart pistol is the best and most satisfying gun i ever used in a video games. Also, it is too op
@@shuysnoopy Yeah but people hate it when you use it in multiplayer.
I imagine the smart pistol would work like the overwatch ult. You will move very slowly (no turning) while the gun scans for players.
@@ed61730 Nah, you have the full movement capabilities. You get it in your secondary slot when you pop the ult and works like a normal gun, expect that it aims for you. But the weapon is kinda weak, people were always complaining about it because they were too lazy or stupid to learn how to play around it.
I love the slow start, introducing one piece of the puzzle at a time as you slowly put it together was great. I can't get over how precise your slings and slides are no matter how many clips I see.
It’s so cool that the entire titanfall community is just genuine and nice in game and out, no ones rude or toxic and everyone is just so great to each other.
I have to metion the spitfire and the skill gap between most players but other than that I love the game.
did you ever tried to talk about Apex Legends with a Titanfall fan?
@@pirho1009 I was gonna mention that. There are also the fans that will continuously bash Apex because there is no Titanfall 3.
I stopped playing ages ago and went to rainbow six, had the game gotten a better sequel I’m sure I would still be playing it
I wish if Apex gets a ltm where u can double jump and wall run, to make it more lore wise the legends are In a simolation just like war games
Black beast or a legend that can do that
@@N1c0_792 much rather would have a Legend that can do that. Or at least one of them.
There is a Cooper legend coming out, according to files, his passive will be double jump, his tac will be able to wall run for like 10 seconds, and his ult will be the stim from Titanfall2, and it charges fast
@@rezinyt4879 I've seen that stuff. It's just click bait. Cooper would be 50-60 years old at this point. He wouldn't be a pilot
@@Mokey
the thing is that in apex its a blood games, jump kits are onlu used in wars, like in titanfall 2. Thats why there is no titans in apex caus eits a game. However i would be super happy if they make a legend that can wall run and double jump
I never played tf2 but thr reason i love it is because of ur vids
he does Team Fortress 2 vids???
@@Flyzoola tf2 has two meanings team fortress 2 and titanfall 2.that can be confusing sometimes :)
@@Zeyi06 I'm uncultured :( sorry
@@Zeyi06 bullshit, tf2 will ALWAYS be team fortress 2 and can not share it with anybody.
ok zoomer Nope
Anyone who loves Titanfall gets a indescribable feeling watching this
the first time seeing this type of movement in a video game was so cool to me
never played titanfall, but the third one im gonna be buying asap
SlueRL buy TF2 it’s 5 bucks and worth every penny
Get TF|2 and show them that it's worth making a third game
I agree with the other reply just but it and give them a reason to make a third
TF3 is on hold for an indefinite amount of time that's why Apex came out it was the content they had so far for TF3 so yea idk what they are going to do with .... nothing I guess. Which makes me sad. But at least TF2 is finally getting the attention it deserves.
@@ralyks2350 Dude, seriously, this kind of thing is getting old. TF3 will come eventually, the game would've probably gotten no attention and likely would've made Respawn completely bankrupt if they attempted it. Apex Legends has brought the Titanfall games more attention which means a greater likelihood for a successful sequel. TF isn't coming back yet because it can't, but it will.
Source movement is the one thing I miss in my life.
That really makes me back to the old days of Titanfall 2 where pretty much everyone knew how to move like that and it was amazing pilots in the air and titans on the ground but now all the new players just play it like it's call of duty
I felt very happy watching this, the moment you put the airstrafe in I knew: oh, now it's getting serious. It was a very neat video and I really like how you showcased the importance of movement in shooters, the fading with the music also gave me goosebumps :p
god just imagine if Apex had this level of movement. it would be insanity. in one hand i wish it did, in the other i think it would turn it into a totally different game
They should just make it a limited time mode
@Rafe Scaggs idk if it would be "better" per se, but it would certainly change things up. I think if they had the same movement as Titanfall, it would make it a "Titanfall battle royale" instead of a battle royale 'loosely' based on Titan Fall. Perhaps if they had a "Titanfall pilot" limited time mode, that would make sense.
apex only lacks the double jump and wall running. I do admit that while that has a huge impact, the movement in apex is what sets it apart from other battle royales, and that movement stems from titanfall. The way both games are played is so similar, especially since they have the same guns, but both execute the gameplay very differently. The weapon customization is completely different, there's no armor or healing items in titanfall, the sprinting isn't as fast, the map is different. But by taking the basic concepts of one game, respawn created a game that is not the same, but shares lots of things with the original. Taking things like octane's stim and pathfinder's grapple out of titanfall and incorporating it into a very unique and different map, which is not designed for wall running or double jumping, but more for large areas of combat, is a very difficult thing to do, but in my opinion, respawn did it perfectly.
@Rafe Scaggs I don't think that this movement would work in BR game - dying to a guy flying towards you from other side of the map with super sonic speed would not be very rewarding :)
The maps in Apex aren't even designed for this kind of movement.
This is one of the greatest ways to make a game fun and feel amazing; Give the means to the player and dont restrict them. They literally gave the player all the tools they need to create their own path instead of one predetermined by a dev team. It makes it interesting and as you progress and develop your playstyle you learn to create your own style. Real nice!
Was wondering why this was in my Recommended section.....
5 minutes and 51 seconds later, I hit the like and subscribe buttons
“Hey guys, Desinc here.”
WHO'S HERE FROM STEAM BOIS. TITANFALL IS BACK
Yessir
I have been here since u had less then 2k. I can say that these are so inspiring and well made. Keep up the great work!
Thanks for sticking around :) Will do so
me: CANT BE FASTER THAN THIS ....
me 10 sec later: WOAA
Ooohhhhhh. Buttery smooth. I was just reminiscing about Titanfall 1 while at work today, haven't seen any content related to Titanfall in years. This pops onto my feed. Somehow RUclips can read minds now I guess, but all the nostalgia. I should reinstall this game. You're beautiful.
Me before I even start to watch the video:
- pauses video
- likes the video
- screams "YES"
- cries of happiness
In those 5 minutes and 51 seconds you have brought me joy, thank you.
Once a year i find myself coming back to this video. No words were spoken but everything was said. Its a shame that we dont have third installment of the series yet.
i no lifed the hell out titanfall 1, i stopped gaming during 2s release though, but looking back. this video is also showing how games dont want skill gap (MW and sbmm). titanfall has so much skill gap, people complained about guns having no recoil but at the end of the day it didnt matter if you could finesse better than the next guy. These last few cods have zero skill gap compared to every other game in order to get more time played and thus more money from lower skilled players. it doesnt help them in the end, as when they transition to another game theyve never learned anything, cause they werent challenged to learn anything. this video says a bunch, this video is art man, and will stand the test of time for sure.
What you mean the guns in this game have shitloads of recoil especially compared to apex legends still love it tho.
@@bruhmoment0264
have you ever used the CAR?
I've only picked this game up for a few weeks, but I had no idea you can bunny hop in this game, that is amazing!
What I love about this is it's not only a love letter but also kinda a tutorial of sorts. You slowly show bits and pieces of the movement system and then start showing the creativity that can come with it. Everything you've done here is doable, you just have to have the right mindset and creativity to try it out. TitanFall 2 is a game I wish i stuck with as I look back at all of the cool things RESPAWN came up with. It truly was ahead of it's time.
Bro is that the grapple from apex legends?.!!.!,..???.?!,!,!,!! Oh my goD guys TITANFALL 2 *STolE* the pathfinder grapple from applex leG ends!!!”.???!!!!! I can’t believe it!,?.!
apex and titanfall has the same creator🤦
@@Apple18k0 I think you missed the joke
@@Apple18k0 r/wooosh
@@wheetshire you can never be too sure these days, there are some kids playing Apex these days that never knew Titanfall and Titanfall 2 were a thing before Apex came along
@@marcofava Yes, this is true. But if you look at the way he typed the comment, I think it's pretty clear that is was a joke. Mabye it's just me.
New fps player: "So your saying i just need to press shift to run and that will make m go faster"
Me: "well yes...but actually, no.
This is a masterpiece. You manage to make us understand something without saying a single word!
Nobody:
Mokeysniper: It's Rewind Time
0:13 how call of duty players play Titanfall
The little fox call of duty is literally one of the worst FPS games out there it lacks something that makes it unique so that’s why you see cod players struggle when they try out different FPS games like csgo or titanfall etc
@@meyr1992 Accurate. I grew up with Halo and CoD. I can honestly say that it took me 10 whole games before i went positive. The game isn't simply gun skill, it's movement, enemy prediction, placement, technique. I absolutely love this game
I've seen a lot of them aggressively jump spam too XD
@@meyr1992 Oh look at the little kid trying to feel like he belongs somewhere by bashing on a game that literally noone was saying was bad.
I originally started out with CoD and since you clearly are oblivious to it, CoD has 3 games where wallrunning and bunnihopping is a thing. You're just biased af.
LightTrack maybe you should check the reviews on those games lmao
walk 0:13
sprint 0:38
jump 0:59
double jump 1:19
sliding 1:41
wall run 2:03
strafe 2:24
bunny hop 2:45
Then there’s apex or “Titanfall 3” that just took out the movement that made Titanfall, you know, Titanfall
Its not TitanFall 3. It's just a reuse of the IP to be somewhat more familiar to gamers than a brand new IP
Carson the Knight And to not have to think up all new weapons
Except it's Apex. Not Titanfall.
that's like saying every book JK Rowling makes from now on HAS to have magic wands in it.
I think they are working on another titanfall game, but due to apex exploding in player count they had to delay the release and work on apex and the star wars game. I hope there will be another title of titanfall, anyway, but i believe ive read somewhere they are working on a new one
True but i feel like the Apex thing might have been for a story reason and because it was a huge map, I still would have loved the titanfall 2 movements to have been in apex though
If TF2 was a person they'd be running out of breath crying just from how thankful they are to be appreciated this way. The way you made the whole thing. Peak humanity.
I'm still incredibly upset at how unsuccessful Titanfall 2 was. It had a fantastic campaign, completely innovative movement and combat systems, was cool as hell, looked gorgeous, and was extremely well balanced. It didn't deserve to die the way it did. It was the action movie video game we always wanted.
When it started and he walked I was thinking "ok there aren't any 'Clear Walls' so that makes sense"...but then he walked around. I almost had an aneurysm