Is Jalen Brunson Breaking The Game??
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The internet got triggered by some of the fouls Jalen Brunson drew in their 1st round series clinching Game 6 against the Philadelphia 76ers. Coach Nick brought on Ronnie Nunn, a 19 year NBA referee and head of officials for 5 more, to help break down one of the plays to see whether the foul was legit.
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Even if it is aggregious foul-baiting, the 76ers have no right to be the ones to call it out 😂
EGREGIOUS*
^ok english teacher.
No because unlike Brunson you have to actually hack Embiid to stop him. Embiid isn’t 50 pounds so he doesn’t have to jump back into defenders
@@Haddonfield63 Embiid is the biggest flopper in the league. He tries to sell any level of contact. I'm not even a Knicks fan
@@alfredwong1741 u tap embid its foul he barrels thru defenders and they call foul
Brunson is strong and legit. That's it.
He's a smaller James Harden. That's it.
@@janoycresnova9156 I'd say Trae Young
@@janoycresnova9156excuse me sir? I think not. Harden is a prooven choker with no intereset for the team.
@@kaysheye7784Trae and strong can not be used together
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Every star player knows how to draw fouls, the thing about Brunson I respect is he’s not out there flailing his arms or legs out and just throwing up an airball thinking he got fouled then turning to yell at the ref. He punishes the defense for being too aggressive and tries to finish the play.
Except, he flails too, just not as much as others.
Exactly. And he’s actually trying to make the shot and not simply for the foul.
Not Jokic unfortunately 😂
Agreed. What I see is a player genuinely trying to use his footwork and wiggling to get a good shot. He's not jerking his head or flailing his arms. I see a player genuinely drawing a foul
Maybe that's why embiid got injured so easily. He flail in the air and it disturbed his landing motion
People get upset at Brunson cause they can't stop him 😂.
refer to game 1 and 2
Mostly salty Sixers. "A lot of people" 😂
@@ewepop3746 salty 🧂 🤣
@ewepop3746
They stopped him for 2 games then He averaged 40 on like 50% shooting the rest of the series and it wasn’t like Phillys defense started to slack off either. Cut it out lol.
Manipulating rules..same harden trae things ppl hated
I can’t believe Philly fans of all fans are complaining about foul baiting. Embid was drawing like 10 fouls per game
bc he actually gets fouled
@@KSATSpotting LOL he's a high level flopper.
@@KSATSpotting so the Sixers have never fouled anyone...your fan base is fuckin braindead and delusional
@@KSATSpotting no, he got bailed out and flailed his arms in the air every time he missed a shot and didn’t get the call
@@JohnDaDon12as a knick fan, embiid does get his arms chopped a lot. but thats true with most bigs. embiid just happens to be good at selling it.
Imagine claiming it’s foul baiting when your best player regularly rag dolls himself on the ground to get calls
Brunson averaged 6 free throws a game in the reg season and is finally getting the calls he deserves and the nba word loses its mind 😂😂. Btw Brunson never jumps backwards just up
Sixers fans crying when Embiid gets so many soft fouls called is hilarious.
Brunson haters punching the air right now.
Lol 😆
Imagine getting mad at a player whose head is being blocked by the defender’s chin…
Underrated comment 💯
FACTS bro!!! LOLOLOL
He not jumping back into the defender lol
That was a nice adjustment by Brunson. In games 1 and 2 he was getting grabbed and hacked like crazy while doing the hostage dribble, which ended up in turnovers and missed shots.
Instead of whining and shouting to the refs he decided to use defenders aggressiviness against them.
? He literally showed Brunson jumping back into the defender the 1st minute of this video??
@@raymondqiu8202he literally said he’s not in the video. He’s jumping straight up into a jumpshot
@@AzornRhodesHe’s jumping back into the defender and THEN going into a shooting motion. Actually watch the games
@@danielnelson6903 bro he is not. Do you expect Brunson to jump forward when taking a jumpshot. He went straight up.
Ask Joel Embiid what foul baiting is
Meanwhile, Dirty Embiid had been maiming the whole Knicks team without a call.
Never thought I’d heard some call Brunson “springy” 😂😂😂
Not in jumping high but getting up quick
You are correct. He is jumping and shooting before the defender is aware it is going to happen. Which causes the defenders momentum to send him crashing into Brunson.
Why are players mad at JB, when he's actually using his brain? We all are born with one. Hey guys use your brain💯
Trae young did the exact same thing a couple years backs
@@maartenvzno he didn’t, Trae clearly used to jump sideways, forwards, backwards, just to initiate the contact himself. By the way, foul baiting’s not pretty or aesthetically pleasing but it’s not morally questionable unlike, say, dirty plays. Getting to the line is a part of the game, everybody knows the rules & it’s a skill to use them to try to get an advantage
@@maartenvz You are really slow aren't you.
@@santeriruonavaara3108you never played basketball at a high level opinion sent to the scrap heap. Brunson ruins the game since his points are bogus they are fraudulent. NBA and NFL both continue to make these games totally boring and awful with the handicaps.
I mean thats two plays out of 100s.
Its not an uncommon move used by smaller guards or even players on the fast break.
Brunson just does it better than most. If you dont want to be foul baited then keep in front of him lol
If you’re a Sixers fan upset at Brunson for drawing that foul at the end of game 6, you’d also have to be mad at Maxey’s 4 point play in game 5. Maxey actually jumped forward into Robinson, Brunson went straight up.
Brunson isn’t doing anything different that the great players have always done. It’s called having a high basketball IQ.
Crazy that people complain about a defender trailing the offensive player and being smacked in the teeth by a shooter going up
It’s foul baiting nobody likes foul baiting
@Joeyeliel only thing crazy is how the refs screwed Philly Jalen Brunson pulled on Maxey Jersey silver wants the New York market
@@darnellwilliams8783 maxey traveled on his 4 point play cry more
@@tr0ncarter res screwed Philly cousin is not a real point guard most rigged series ever regfs said they missed 2 fouls on new York game 2
@@darnellwilliams8783show me the 48 min report you complain and say refs wanted Philly but yet again embiid should’ve gotten kicked out of game 3 and refs let it be
Its crazy how philly fans cried so much people had to make videos disproving them
Riding his back he’s not supposed to take a shot ? Lmfao stop him you can’t ?
Nah he’s not allowed to shoot apparently
Exactly. Since when can't a shooter pull up for a shot?
Bro talked like Yoda at the end
He can shoot but he flails his body like someone shot him. This is foul baiting
@@mattschurenko3032don't get beat then
People shouldnt conflate foul bait with illegal. This was intentional in that brunson punishes d for undisciplined defense. Thats not foul baiting. Foul baiting is hoping for a whistle over making a play at the rim. Brunson legitimately goes for shots and big brains defenders.
Exactly!
Every great scorer has tricks to get free throws.Brunson is one of best at taking good shots when drawing fouls.He almost never throws up wild shots just for free throws like Embiid or Trae Young.Both of those guys literally throw themselves into defenders and volleyball spike off the backboard as their "shot attempt".
@@BrooklynBalla Exactly. I wrote this on a Philly podcast page and they can’t cope with this. 👇🏾
Brunson does not jump backwards. Here’s the difference between him and Trae for clarification:
Trae Young veers/launches himself off his path INTO defenders initiating contact.
Brunson stops abruptly, goes STRAIGHT UP and remains in his shooting cylinder, at that point the undisciplined defender RUNS INTO HIM! (For your own curiosity PLEASE slow down the footage of the Oubre and Batum fouls and tell me he’s not stopping abruptly and going straight up. He’s not fucking jumping backwards, cope all you want). That’s the key. He’s IN HIS SHOOTING CYLINDER and going straight up.
It’s so simple to understand 🤷🏾♂️ And especially in Oubre’s case he’s crowding and leaning over Brunson which is legal for Oubre to do, but once Brunson begins to rise into his shooting motion Oubre is not allowed to hinder his upward motion.
Let’s get to the head snap on the Batum and Oubre fouls: Brunson does snap his head back mid-air but only AFTER the defender runs into him (again, slow down the footage and watch for your own curiosity)to signal to the ref that he was fouled. While I dislike the head snap, it has no effect on the fact he was fouled prior. You want to stop committing fouls? Then be more disciplined and avoid RUNNING INTO players once they begin a legal shooting motion. It’s so simple. His footwork and timing is so elite defenders struggle with.
@chrisstfort7 that's the realest comment of a breakdown play 💯
@@chrisstfort7this is an oversimplification. Most of the times trae also just stops and jumps straight up. Their techniques /strategy is much closer than you make it seem.
I agree with you that its not illegal what brunson does and Defenders should be aware, however, defender need reaction time when brunson suddenly stops. Its almost impossible to avoid the contact for the defender, especially as you can clearly see that brunson cuts them off (which is legal). Tldr: while its legal the outcome is inevitable: the defender will slam into brunson. I personally hate it.
It's wild to make a video about foul baiting in the NYK-PHI series and not even mention Embiid
Chris Paul was doing that years ago and nobody ever said anything.
Thank you. Oubre was reaching over him for the strip and he sensed it and went up to draw contact. You reach, I teach.
What great timing, I just watched this game as I wasn't able to last night. (too late for my timezone) It is good to focus in on these plays, which indeed seemed like a foulbaiting move when watching the game. Batum pulling his jersey is well spotted and most likely does affect his motion, while the other move he clearly isn't moving backwards in any way, he is going straight up, maybe not realizing how close Oubre was.
I love these kinds of breakdowns, fitting the aptly named channel quite well. Thanks coach!
It's called skills. People are just mad he's outsmarting them
So why did they stop harden and Trae young from doing it? It’s not skills it’s manipulating the refs.
@@Haddonfield63 Trae Young would jump sideways or backwards to initiate contact and fling the ball at the rim. James Harden would hook the defender's arm and go up for shots to draw fouls. Jalen Brunson stops on a dime when the defender doesn't expect it and rises straight up for jumpers or floaters with the intention of making the shot. A foul is just an added bonus if the defender is not in position, which is why Brunson is one of the league leaders in making and-ones.
Keep up the great work, clear, plain level-headed analysis is what is needed to counter all these emotional people on twitter. Thanks coach Nick!
I just know 76ers fans making the argument that he is foul baiting is throwing stones in a glass house
Excellent analysis. Show it to every resident of the city of Philadelphia
Brunson deserves a title shot. I'm a lakers fan but i would love to see NY vs Denver
This ain’t the ufc buddy
You must not want to see a competitive series cause Denver would smash NY.
@@na_k Knicks are 3-1 vs denver over the last 2 years lol
@@legendaryzero2730 yeah and pheonix was like 3-0 vs timberwolves in regular season, playoffs different ny would get worked.
@@Bikegod1 yeah yeah we get it
It's called a fake, and the defender falls for it every time.
Basic drill a coach I played for had us run in Highschool was to drive baseline and absorb the contact of the defender and make the And 1 basket.
Basic basketball principle, You drive to the lane to make the shot or draw the foul.
Only casuals see it as “foul baiting”
Bronson simply stopped for the J and jumped upward with no backward, foul baiting movement. It's the same movement he makes on almost all his Js. The only difference were these two cases the defender lost control trying to chase him from behind expecting him to go a bit deeper in the paint, but because of his size, Bronson has to stop a bit before others.
Meanwhile Embiid was committing all types of egregious and potential injury causing fouls and hardly any 76ers fans said a thing.
Sixers fans just in their feelings brunson was frying them all series long
Embiid was frying the knicks on one leg… stop it.
@@Haddonfield63ihart and Mitchell were having to play with their hands behind their back and preferred to let him end possessions over maxey. The whistle was triggered ever so lightly for Embiid.
@@Haddonfield63embiid did his best to even out the injury factor too. Batum took out bogdanovic in a dirty flop. Give it to the sixers they gave it their best. 😂
@@insearchofYAH the refs gave Brunson more whistles than the Knicks could handle. I don’t wanna hear about hands behind no backs cause Embiid shouldn’t have even been out there and he still had the Knicks in jeopardy. If he was 100 percent the Sixers win the series. I don’t think you understand exactly how hobbled Embiid was. Every game was within 5-7 points. And Embiid got NO help off the bench. Let alone from a dude making 180 million
@@Haddonfield63 i could tell how bad he was hurt. I felt for him but honestly he needs to change his game, too dynamic for his body type. He needs a more sustainable play style so he doesn’t get hurt as often. Come playoff time he can pick his spots. He played incredibly quarters 1-3 but it was just him and maxey. Knicks did a great job even with 2-3 guys down. It was even Steven for me.
What is Brunson supposed to do?
Drive by a defender and go straight into a player that is a foot taller than him?
He drove by, got space, so insread of charging into much bigger defender, he stops and takes the shot.
Common sense.
Brunson Buzzin'
Say less! Go Knicks!
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@@KNICKSBUZZ 👍🏽
Very old school technique. I was doing this back in the 90’s when I was a teenager.
If he starts finishing consistently on these plays they would be almost unbeatable
Ok unc I see you
As a short and fast guard I did the same thing, but refs wouldn’t call a foul.
Excellent video analysis
These drive and stop moves with the defender behind are just next level plays and also don't agree that he's looking for contact, the defenders just don't have the discipline to guard him from behind without fouling. What I do think is borderline foul-baiting is when he's driving round a pick or trying to get past a defender and he snaps his head back. Not to the same extend as Reaves who will likely need neck surgery in the off-season, but I still see it from Brunson here and there. I wish he wouldn't do it.
I agree on the head snap back when he’s driving and I wish he would remove this from his repertoire. I think he does it to signal that he’s being grabbed or bumped off his spot.
His jumpers however are not baiting. He stops abruptly and jumps straight up and remains in his shooting cylinder. The undisciplined defender then runs into him as he’s elevating…or in Oubre’s case he’s crowding the space above Brunson and impinging Brunson’s elevation making it a defensive foul. It takes elite footwork to master this.
At no point does Brunson veer/launch himself off his path into a defender to initiate contact like a Trae Young frequently does, that’s the difference. Brunson jumps straight up and remains in his shooting cylinder.
i swear to god bro i hate when austin reaves does that shit it 's so unnatural and forced😤😤
so basically when everyone learns to stop harden's extra step offense, brunson use normal step that everyone forget how to defend that already
THANK YOU FOR THIS VIDEO ❤
I think it’s a completely legal form of foul baiting. Like Brunson knows what he’s doing but he’s jumping forward it straught up, simply taking advantage of the momentum of the defender, not forcibly jumping into the defender
Appreciate this as a Pacers fan! At full speed it's not easy to tell these things and it can be frustrating. Dude is a beast!
Another aspect is that Brunson is quite short for an NBA player, so the top of his head is very often under the chin of the larger player typically guarding him. If he's being guarded by a smaller player like Dame for instance, this type of contact doesn't occur.
Brunsons moves are legit. He uses the fact that the defenders are way to close behind him, stops on a dime and lifts vertically (against Oubrey jr.) or even slightly forward away from the defender (Batum). The defenders are the ones responsible for the contact. A different thing would be the moves of Trae Young who often tries to make contact to the defender by moving laterally or even backwards. Those moves are not legit.
Since when is it "not basketball" to hesitate or change pace when you've got the defender "in jail?" 😂
Plus which you're entitled to your verticality.
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Great breakdown coach
Sixers fans complaining about Brunson have no shame. They have the most egregious flopper in the NBA who’s injured his own teammate with his flopping.
Meanwhile the refs were giving out free throws like they were candy to Embiid.
observation: Brunson jumps a lot from 2 feet to get the power upwards that you need to bow the knee a bit to get fro 1 footed jumps.
with the diffrence in momentum he also jumps more vertial than players would expect out of the movement.
lower cetner of gravity clearly plays a role in the movement here.
That’s because he’s a lot stronger than he looks trust me as a Knicks fan he used to get fouled a lot and they didn’t call it so defense took advantage…so now he makes it obvious for them to call one by baiting remember last year Miami series the refs said he flopped then 2min report would say he was fouled multiple times so this season he adjusted
When you are playing a game like basketball, you have to use your brain and your body at the same time. That is the game! That is why it is called game! Folks just can't stop Jalen Brunson. The guy is soooo great, sooo skilled that people can't believe their eyes. Thaty have never seen someone playing like Brunson in the history of basketball.
Big fan of Brunson
Let’s face it, in today’s game…most of the players foul bait and flop. But some guys take it to defcon 5.
great analysis
not to mention the amount of times oubre and batum were holding and pulling brunson off the ball with no whistle
Man, I don't want to hear anything about a little point guard like brunson "foul-baiting" because what brunson is doing is using his quickness and low center of gravity to create these situations and, most importantly, hes still almost always looking to make the shot. Unlike guys like embiid or old school harden who obviously have no intention of actually making some of these "shots". Brunson is a bit of an enigma, he should be andre miller out there but instead, hes this odd mix of kyrie and kyle lowry that makes him one of the all time great short guy scorers
Brunson brake checking and driving erratically. It’s still your fault if you rear end him 😂.
If you tailgate a car and the car legitimately performs an emergency stop causing you to crash into it, who is at fault? I imagine most countries have a rule to leave enough space behind the car in front... In other words, stay off JB's bumper or catch an L 😂
Lmao😂😂
he’s gathering the ball and shooting it all in one motion therefore out-timing his opponent…in traffic laws when you get hit from the back its always going to be the fault of the guy behind you..its up to Batum to watch that Brunson doesn’t stop short and bangs into him…what’s a non-basketball play is when a player breaks through the defenders hands or arms while he’s merely playing defense without reaching for the ball…it totally defeats the purpose of playing defense which is naturally part of the game.
Coach, I was texting w/ my brother this morning, and he suggested that Brunson might be the best free agent signing in the history of ALL sports. I did a little digging, and only found a couple that truly compare favorably.
1. Drew Brees to the New Orleans Saints. Coming off an injury, not established as much more than a basic NFL QB,
2. David Ortiz to the Red Sox. 58 HRs in 6 seasons w/ the Twins. 3 titles, an MVP, and makes it to the Hall of Fame.
The Knicks have been a basketball graveyard for the entire century so far. We've needed a top PG since Clyde retired.
Brunson has gone from a backup PG to a probable All-NBA team, AND leading the NBA in postseason scoring while Luka, Jocic, Embiid, LeBron, Harden, Shai, Edwards and Kyrie are all in their primes and playing incredible....
Thoughts?
Swear they stopped CP3 from doing this 😂
They only mad cause they want to see the Knicks lose. HA HA Get over it !!!! Embid get the best whistle in NBA history, Brunson is just very smart and technical
Preciate ya' doing this video on my guy Jalen Brunson!
He's just quick AF and defenders can't stop in time.
Embiid was called for multiple offensive fouls for hitting his defender in the face when the defender had his head beyond embiids toes. It was inconsistent
Glad you didn’t use the same pic that everyone uses of Brunson with him looking up and smiling in the away jersey lol
It's funny that every single game the narrative is "he's not the quickest or most explosive or tallest" then wonder if he's foul baiting because he has to do different things to get his shot. He doesn't have those tools so he heavily relies on changing tempo and footwork. No way you can call that foul baiting meanwhile Embiid is turning down wide open short range jumpers that he makes 99 out of 100 times to try and seek contact right under the rim with a layup
I would be a fan of his grit if his game wasnt a eyesore, all the flopping and foul baiting is annoying af.
You can also tell he’s a professional head snapper. Look how thiccccc his neck is from all those reps. Sad the refs continue to fall for it
They just mad they can’t stop him, guard better and stop complaining
That's his style. Figure out how to defend it. That's why teams have scouts
Has a player ever dm'd you being like " couldn't wait till after playoffs?" 😆
Thanks
Man Idc what you say… this is not a foul in any other league but nba. Offensive players allowed to push off create all this contact.
Players have been foul baiting long before jalen brunson came into the league. He's just really good at drawing contact to get to the line
Philly fans need to leave the room whenever there's a foul baiting conversation
Theyve been doing this for years lol. At the end of the day, players will always do things to get an advantage
If twolves vs knicks in the finals it would be an epic battle of MJ's son and Bron's son
Lol I mean you could do this with mostly every player in the league especially embiid.
Embiid actually draws many fouls in far less subtle ways. They are clear to spot though, as Embiid always accentuates the contact.
Embiid looks for the contact on every drive. Sometimes the refs don't blow the whistle and he looks stupid.
It’s funny everyone says he’s foul baiting but he’s also making the shot after the contact 😂
Crazy how no one wanted to talk about the kincks let alone brunson in the regular season but now that they beat a team that was a "favorite" to go deep everyone wants to cry about it 😂
I’m waiting on Embiids video just like this. Dude gets more whistles than anyone. Brunson “forces the defender to make contact with him”. While Embiid “forces contact with the defender”, and still it’s a foul on defense. The different is Huge.
One thing i hate about foul baiting the most
I can see when it happens so the refs surely can see it either
I don't wanna see all these "rip through", "found the contact", "leaning towards the defender" stuff
They said it's the rules
Really? Are they even written? I doubt it. And even if they does exist, my question is why?
So my conclusion is, the NBAs interpretation of the rules sucks and they want them to suck
Nowadays it's better than a couple of years ago tho, when i really started to hate NBA refs
I can't hear this "oh he is so smart he found the contact" anymore. This is not basketball when somebody is trying to fk the fans and viewers and gets rewarded.
Not talking about Brunson in particular but we all know some names like Harden or Young or Embiid, this should not be the case. Stop rewarding foul baiting, nobody prevents you from that. And stop talkin bs about how smart it is.
I know they've taken steps to reduce the baiting before, I don't think it's easy though. As much as people complain about Embiid, he does get legitimately fouled a lot, too. I honestly think they need to start punishing embellishment, it'll make things a little easier to see when players aren't flailing around, and the refs can focus on actual illegal contact.
But yeah, just earlier this series we had Brunson on the floor and Lowry purposefully trips himself on him to get 3 FT's, things like that is just completely ridiculous. Obvious non-basketball plays should not be rewarded.
Foul baiting is only acceptable when your team is using it and winning let's just keep it a buck.
0:10 Guess this will never end
Lol, Brunson's foul baiting was different from Trae's intentionally jumping backwards into defender/jumping sideward to the defender's path;
and different from Harden's intentionally swinging his arms into defenders which Kd, Book, Cp3 and others copied.
He's foul baiting if you thing shooting off the normal rhythm "baiting". But it's not. Jokic also has a funky rhythm that has made him basically unstoppable. Defenders are going to have to adjust their game
Going on the off foot is somethign I first saw Tony Parker doing a lot. Its critical for a shorter guy to catch teh defense off guard so they can finish over, basically eveyr other taller player.
I never thought I'd see the day that someone would have the narrative that they outflop Joel Embiid
Sixers fans should be the last fans complaining about FOUL-BAITING
NBA MEDIA lying saying REFS were calling less ft after all-star break..meanhwile SGA and BRUNSON got their numbers of FTA increased...
EMBIID and GIANNIS remained..
AND LUKA saw a drop of 3 fta per game....
BASICALLY they just dont want 1 player shooting FT...
I don’t even listen to Ronnie Nunn anymore because I know he just wants to call everything.
If Brunson jumps straight up I agree, give him the call, but if he is jumping backwards or into a defender that’s behind him, offensive foul.
He is literally bumping dudes’ face with these plays. I hate watching it; can we empower defense for once?!
It’s smart it’s a adjustment from Brunson from the chase from behind block, they want to run up then stop on a dime!
Chris Paul used to be a master at this. Stopping suddenly so defender runs into him, jumping *backwards* or *sideways* into the defender. I think this should be a no call , and I see many times refs don't call it because it's clear JB is initiating it
Brunson out here looking like Tre Young. People dont like foul baiting until their guy does it. Also, officials have gotten to the point that they only call when a person sells it. Maxey is fouled often and he doesnt get the call.
What Brunson is doing is what small guards have been doing for years like CP3, Mike Conley, Curry, and Dame for example
I can't beleave this but...go Knicks! Great bunch of dudes.❤
Coach really woke up and chose to end Brunson's career 😆