HOH-LEE SHIT. No kidding, this has been your day job a long time!!! I'm dizzy trying to keep up with this rapid-fire barrage of rules-based meta-cognition (not succeeding -- will have to listen a few times), but am intrigued and really impressed. Thank you so much for this breathtaking demo and expert instruction. Re: Peterson being "most articulate person alive"; "most important thinker of our time."
The one thing I find particularly wrong about Peterson is his insistence on reducing women and men to biologically driven perceptions of each other. It is not the case that women want strong men while men must learn to be strong. Instead, individuals bond with other individuals according to metrics specific to the individuals, not to the group of their genders. INTP chicks want soft-ass ESFJ dudes, for example.
Yes! And ENTJ executive ones want a confident and chill ISFP silver surfer, stay at home dad partner, who has a small mail-order biz, makes her laugh, cooks spaghetti, and gives great foot rubs. :-) Peterson's such a mishmash of things I like and agree with (personal-level stuff // his psychology accumen and a lot of his teaching // his being a good Oprah for guys), and things I really, *really* don't. (His politics and 'if an animal I cherry-pick out of the Encyclopedia Brittanica does a thing that vaguely resembles a human custom, this proves that custom is natural, and therefore, it is good, and probably pretty much inevitable, too' fallacious reasoning.) After ignoring his popping up in the margins of every damn place I went online for months, I finally caved and watched a video a friend recommended -- the chat he had with Russell Brand. I was surprised to find that I liked him. He was very well-spoken and had some intelligent and insightful things to say. I knew enough going in to know we wouldn't see eye to eye, politically, in many respects, but was pleasantly surprised to find I did agree with everything he said in there, including his take on some naive and unhelpful common assumptions on the left. I thought, "Hey! That whole 'gender pronouns police' brouhaha was destructive and silly, but maybe he's not all bad. He really does seem to believe what he's saying; he's smart; I bet I'd enjoy talking to him on a long car trip. Give him a chance and see what else he has to say." Before I realized * just * how little he needed any more publicity, I almost made a type video about his and Brand's INTJ//ENFP type dynamics. Then I looked into things a little; discovered his bald lies as to what bill C-16 actually was or could, in any effect whatsoever, do to threaten free speech (www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/C-16/first-reading) and other made-up facts and ridiculously alarmist forecasts of imminent societal collapse (and for all the least likely, least pressing and obvious of reasons); his social Darwinism and riveting paleo-naturalist "arguments" for the forever maintenance of whatever solidly entrenched hierarchical institutions already exist ('if a lobster's doing it, shouldn't you? it's only reasonable to conclude . . . '); his _Hey guys_ -- _come join me in the redcoat gentry of the 1750s where everything will be good and right again_ political views; (ASIDE TO HIS MANY YANKEE FANS: Is there any level of irony that could get the needle to move with anybody anymore post the Trump presidency?) his inflammatory nonsense about all those lethal, pimply "totalitarian"* women's studies majors trampling his rights and causing Western civilization to crumble by calling him not very nice names on account of the political views he expresses when he's supposed to be teaching psychology; his 'buck up; make no waves; set a good example to the poor, and every problem facing the world will straighten itself right out' brand of soothing but preposterous solutions to complex socio-economic problems; his sage counsel on improving relations between men and women by encouraging the latter to go home, and the former to do a gorilla dance and step all over each other in a race to the top as the one true means of achieving manly self-respect; (Such fresh ideas! How sensible to believe that everyone can be top lobsters if they just 'do right' and work hard enough, even though the entire pyramidal structure of the society they live in requires 95% of everybody else to make up that pyramid and keep everything in it humming along by being nowhere near the top. But don't let the most elemental grasp of geometry get in the way of your dreams! Fuck those losers, and their weak moral character!]) his enlightened, very complimentary to the presumed fortitude of men, and highly rationalist view that if you wear lipstick to work and your boss gropes you, you're a hypocrite who also shoulda seen it coming that he couldn't be expected to observe the law in the face of your Jezebel ways like he does literally hundreds of other ones every day. (Nevermind that our cultural mores are such that a mere year and a half earlier, when a woman ran for president for the first time, jeers of "pantsuit revolution" really caught on across the nation.) 'If you don't femme and fluff it up for work, you must be a wire mommy with a blanket on top and a ball-busting lesbo; if you wear heels in public, you deserve whatever you get, you teasing whore.'
HOH-LEE SHIT. No kidding, this has been your day job a long time!!! I'm dizzy trying to keep up with this rapid-fire barrage of rules-based meta-cognition (not succeeding -- will have to listen a few times), but am intrigued and really impressed. Thank you so much for this breathtaking demo and expert instruction.
Re: Peterson being "most articulate person alive"; "most important thinker of our time."
The one thing I find particularly wrong about Peterson is his insistence on reducing women and men to biologically driven perceptions of each other. It is not the case that women want strong men while men must learn to be strong. Instead, individuals bond with other individuals according to metrics specific to the individuals, not to the group of their genders. INTP chicks want soft-ass ESFJ dudes, for example.
Yes! And ENTJ executive ones want a confident and chill ISFP silver surfer, stay at home dad partner, who has a small mail-order biz, makes her laugh, cooks spaghetti, and gives great foot rubs. :-)
Peterson's such a mishmash of things I like and agree with (personal-level stuff // his psychology accumen and a lot of his teaching // his being a good Oprah for guys), and things I really, *really* don't. (His politics and 'if an animal I cherry-pick out of the Encyclopedia Brittanica does a thing that vaguely resembles a human custom, this proves that custom is natural, and therefore, it is good, and probably pretty much inevitable, too' fallacious reasoning.)
After ignoring his popping up in the margins of every damn place I went online for months, I finally caved and watched a video a friend recommended -- the chat he had with Russell Brand. I was surprised to find that I liked him. He was very well-spoken and had some intelligent and insightful things to say. I knew enough going in to know we wouldn't see eye to eye, politically, in many respects, but was pleasantly surprised to find I did agree with everything he said in there, including his take on some naive and unhelpful common assumptions on the left.
I thought, "Hey! That whole 'gender pronouns police' brouhaha was destructive and silly, but maybe he's not all bad. He really does seem to believe what he's saying; he's smart; I bet I'd enjoy talking to him on a long car trip. Give him a chance and see what else he has to say."
Before I realized * just * how little he needed any more publicity, I almost made a type video about his and Brand's INTJ//ENFP type dynamics.
Then I looked into things a little; discovered his bald lies as to what bill C-16 actually was or could, in any effect whatsoever, do to threaten free speech (www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/42-1/bill/C-16/first-reading) and other made-up facts and ridiculously alarmist forecasts of imminent societal collapse (and for all the least likely, least pressing and obvious of reasons);
his social Darwinism and riveting paleo-naturalist "arguments" for the forever maintenance of whatever solidly entrenched hierarchical institutions already exist ('if a lobster's doing it, shouldn't you? it's only reasonable to conclude . . . ');
his _Hey guys_ -- _come join me in the redcoat gentry of the 1750s where everything will be good and right again_ political views;
(ASIDE TO HIS MANY YANKEE FANS: Is there any level of irony that could get the needle to move with anybody anymore post the Trump presidency?)
his inflammatory nonsense about all those lethal, pimply "totalitarian"* women's studies majors trampling his rights and causing Western civilization to crumble by calling him not very nice names on account of the political views he expresses when he's supposed to be teaching psychology;
his 'buck up; make no waves; set a good example to the poor, and every problem facing the world will straighten itself right out' brand of soothing but preposterous solutions to complex socio-economic problems;
his sage counsel on improving relations between men and women by encouraging the latter to go home, and the former to do a gorilla dance and step all over each other in a race to the top as the one true means of achieving manly self-respect;
(Such fresh ideas! How sensible to believe that everyone can be top lobsters if they just 'do right' and work hard enough, even though the entire pyramidal structure of the society they live in requires 95% of everybody else to make up that pyramid and keep everything in it humming along by being nowhere near the top. But don't let the most elemental grasp of geometry get in the way of your dreams! Fuck those losers, and their weak moral character!])
his enlightened, very complimentary to the presumed fortitude of men, and highly rationalist view that if you wear lipstick to work and your boss gropes you, you're a hypocrite who also shoulda seen it coming that he couldn't be expected to observe the law in the face of your Jezebel ways like he does literally hundreds of other ones every day.
(Nevermind that our cultural mores are such that a mere year and a half earlier, when a woman ran for president for the first time, jeers of "pantsuit revolution" really caught on across the nation.)
'If you don't femme and fluff it up for work, you must be a wire mommy with a blanket on top and a ball-busting lesbo; if you wear heels in public, you deserve whatever you get, you teasing whore.'
Lol I know when you say crazy shit, you're just saying crazy shit, Eric. But when Peterson says some crazy shit, you know that he believes it.