Could Supreme Court Ruling Free Seized Superyacht in US? | QM2 Backlash | SY News Ep240
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- Опубликовано: 6 авг 2024
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00:00 Amadea seen cruising in San Diego
06:07 Toppled sailing ship righted - video
07:26 QM2 People upset calling her a Cruiseship
11:57 Yotspot - Rising Sun
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Love finding out about new and exciting ways my tax dollars are spent. If my money is helping pay to maintain that yacht, I think I deserve at least a 2 night cruise for my family and I 😆
It's a balancing act. If they don't seize the yacht when they have a chance, they might not get another opportunity. At the same time, you still need ample evidence that the yacht was obtained with ill-gotten gains to prove your case. In the interim, you must maintain the yacht. It's cheaper to maintain the yacht than to let it fall into disrepair and then fix it.
@@addanametocontinue wonder who’s gettin paid to orchestrate it all
The US treasury will be on the top of the list for payment when it is sorted . Then the lawyers followed by the accountants.
When the yacht is sold, the maintenance amount will be reimbursed to the US Government, so it doesn't matter how much is spent.
I do wonder why, as your country obtained usage of this vessel very cheaply, it is not used as a Presidential Yacht?
You are right. The Queen Elizabeth is "Cruising" Alaska right now. So it is both a Cruise Ship and an Ocean Liner
I mean, its the construction that makes it a ocean liner, it just gets used for cruise ship duties as well.
Cruis ship vs Ocean Liner. Jesus, if that is all they have to complain about, then they have a pretty boring existance. However a great dicussion on the main difference which is enlightening for the non-nautical among your viewers.
My mother was afraid of planes. We travelled on the SS France and the Leonardo Da Vinci several times... I miss my youth!
dude, i'm so sorry that people are giving you such grief over descriptive terms. thank you for the info & insights you share with us!! please dont let these knuckleheads get to you!!!
I find your videos so fun and interesting I'm learning things all the time with the information you so graciously provide and it is wonderful that you do this , I get to see different parts of the world I will never get to visit and I find boats ships and cruise ships private yachts so fun and interesting..Thank you Sir
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I didn't know the difference between a cruise ship and an ocean liner - so the explanation is appreciated 🙂
I've been on over a dozen cruise ship and ocean liner passages (SS Rotterdam). The QM is definitely a cruise ship, just as an ambulance is a truck (which it is). Critic's hair is a mess because they keep splitting them unnecessarily. 😊
It maybe being used as a cruise ship now, but it was built as an ocean liner, carrying people across the Atlantic. So she is not "most definitely" a cruise ship, an ocean liner being used as a cruise ship, yes.
You cannot believe how big these yachts are untill you go and see one. Eclipse was in NY a few years back and it is just ginormous in person.
Yet next to Harmony of the Seas you would almost overlook its presence.
Have great photos of Amadea where's its docked in National City. It's huge and quite impressive.
Mate don't feel the need to defend yourself against ignorance. We are with you and your experience. Thanks for your info.
it's a good opportunity for some education
This is content that makes video longer meaning more money:)
Great video, laughed when the taxi placard showed up on top of the Ferrari. Using your remarkable video editing skills for making a point in such a dignified way. I love it😅. Always like hearing about Amadea, no matter what the latest mini-drama is. And as far as the Yacht Spot! Just Wow. Substantial, and very very impressive. It is wonderful that there are people so engaged with the channel that this stuff gets sent in, and you show it.
Thank you for your correction and explanation for QM2. It is a small point but as she is the last Liner, i think an important one.
I enjoy your channel. Keep up the good work.
Some people are just bored and need to complain about the most insignificant things.
Love your channel, keep up the great content 😊
I had no idea there was a difference between an ocean liner and a cruise ship. Now I know.😜
Cunard's map shows Quebec City on the south side of the St Lawrence River when it is actually on the north shore.
Hope they don't make the mistake of docking in Levis, the passengers will be disappointed.
The route up the Saguenay Fjord will be spectacular.
Mr. Sysman had his coffee today. As always loved it and thank you.
San Diego is the home Port for most of the elite Navy Officers I've ever heard of, and major stuff goes through that Navy yard. What a party!!! Tax payer expense?? This little boat is nothing compared to the parties usually held in San Diego!
Love your sense of humour!
Love your style and your reporting.Some people are just idiots and you will never convince them as to what is right or wrong.Keep up the great reporting
The QE2 was built as an ocean liner, end of, she maybe being use as a 'cruise ship now, due to people preferring to fly across the Atlantic and is diversifying to avoid the scrap yard, which is a good thing. The two types of ships are very different, I would chose to be on the QE2 in a storm than a "cruise ship" which does its best to avoid heavy seas. Maybe do your homework before calling people names.
FYI all marine traffic ‘does its best’ to avoid rough weather. And I’ve been on cruise ships that have been in wind speeds equivalent to a cat3 hurricane and not only did we survive, it wasn’t even moving around they way you might think.
QM2?
The definition I heard was that an Ocean Linear had a regular schedule between ports. It is its mission or usage that defines it, not any particular engineering design.
The QE2 was an ocean liner, but is now a cruise ship because it is used as a cruise ship.
The QE2 is now a floating hotel in Dubai.
Thank you guys for another classy & Yachting video. You guys are the best in reporting anything to do with these super yachts & cruise liners. God Bless, stay safe. TMP from N.J.
Amadeus is certainly is a beautiful Pirate ship, with a pedigree inspiring intrigue. Also, in Dubai Ferrari are a common taxi. The super rich, always messin around. Great episode, love the technical stuff fyi.
Haters hate! Good explanation, you're off the hook.
Well said, don’t worry about comments trying to put you down.
A yomam's job at defending your statements! I love it! 💕
Congratulations eSysman and your team on reaching 250K subscribers!
The Ocean liner / Cruse ship bit was vert entertaining. Thank you ! 😊
I actually enjoy watching you respond to haters. Your gentlemen like wits makes me smile….and I’m convinced you enjoy it to! 😊
I do!
BBC as a credible information provider is a stretch.
I really like your videos. Then you showed that awful SUV. Even if it's a Ferrari I don't know if I can get over it. The QE2 used to come into our harbor regularly and it was always such the most regal ship we received.
That thing's not an SUV. Nobody's ever going to put a tent or surfboard in it.
eSysman what a really revealing Ep204. Bravo Bravo
You are a very educated man. I have no idea why you would take the time to entertain someone that would question your experience and your career .
You are awesome! Love your channel!
You must have some good lawyers. As a law student myself, I notice your precise language to dance around potential liability. I'm sure not many people notice this. Good work.
Hello Mr. Sysman. I really enjoy your vids. For the pedantic comment on liner versus cruise ships I will note the following: When it comes to shipping there are two types of trades, liners or non liner sometimes called tramps. This applies to all types of ships, passenger, cargo, and even container ships. A liner has a scheduled service and runs back and forward between scheduled ports picking up cargo or passengers at the port of embarkation and dropping them off at a scheduled destination at a specified time and date. The very large container ships still advertise scheduled liner port calls so that shippers can rely on one of the ships being in port on specified regular dates to pick up or drop off the goods. Mid size and smaller container ships are more opportunistic and flexible in the choice of port calls and are more properly tramping. In the case of passenger ships there are very few liner trade routes left in this world although the transatlantic trade still supports one or two ships for those fellows who do not wish to fly. However, the vast majority are engaged in cruising.
(BTW a cruise can be transatlantic if the port calls are designed for the pleasure of the passenger rather than the scheduled transportation and passengers enjoy the port calls as much as the voyage per say) also, the difference between a liner has nothing to do with the structure or strength of the ship. Both are required to meet the stringent requirements of the Classification Society enforcing international rules for the construction and operation of passenger ships engaged on international voyages. As it happens, Cunard has lots of experience on the transatlantic trade and voluntarily designed QM2 to exceed the standards in order to meet a schedule without requiring diversion for weather, a factor that allows them to advertise ‘liner’ status. I have sailed through several North Atlantic storms attempting to keep a schedule and that can be brutal indeed. But that construction in itself doesn’t make it a liner. It is only the service of the ship that makes it a liner. It’s a subtle distinction that is now more of a marketing ploy than actual use. This tradition has carried over into air travel where now scheduled travel on a passenger airplane is on an airline.
One other point is that a cruise ship normally returns the passenger to the original port of embarkation although this is not always the case for instance on a ship re-positioning cruise. So in the end, cruise ships can be liners and liners can be cruise ships and you are exactly correct in your terminology,
Awesome write up matey, thanks
literally, if a ship cruses, it's a CRUSE SHIP!
Captain e keeping us informed about how the other half recreate.
Seen her twice in the antarctic and once in Akshaya she is indeed a beautiful ship - Sign up to crew on her some time and see if you can learn the ropes of a square rigged ship, just might be fun. Keep up your great site.
You are absolutely correct about the QM2. It is both. I was fortunate enough to go on a short cruise on her with my family about 10 years ago from New York to Halifax and Boston. However, when it arrived in New York, it had just done a transatlantic crossing, which is it's regular schedule, with cruises added in. Wonderful ship.
11:50 The Lloyd Christmas and Harry Dunn reference. Seen what you did there eSysman 😉😂😂😂.
I give you high marks for your snarky reply to ocean liner dude. Well done.
On Amadea and Fiji: I recall finding the court rulings based on your videos, and they were about honouring the cooperation treaty (I forget the name) and not at all about judging who the owner was and if it was under sanctions. A US court ruled ship should be seized, and used that treaty to ask Fiji to let USA seize it.
Since a US court has already ruled the ship should be seized, then the rightful owner can appeal that court ruling to challenge the evidence that was presented to show the beneficial owner was not correct in the court case.
@eSysman SuperYachts • Just a suggestion. I think you should move your announcement of the bite sized news on SuperYacht News to the beginning of the video. Once people have watched to the end of the longer video, I think it is unlikely they will watch the shorter videos. Anyway, that is just my opinion.
Thanks for your always great content.
Love your channel. So funny about QM2. Am I correct, I have seen QM2 billed as the last Ocean going Liner afloat? (and of course a Cruise ship when required). Thank you. (Spoolbox)
I'm glad that guy didn't hear me calling it a boat.
Always so interesting and well-researched. Any plans for your quarter-mil subscribers party?
Thanks my friend.....
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1. I noticed Geffen's jet flying over near me in New Hampshire a week or two ago. Small world when you own a nice jet.
2. I've been on 5 cruises. All were on (3 different) ocean liners which have since been scrapped. Only one of the cruises used the ship as intended, doing a round trip across the Atlantic. That was my first cruise, 50 years ago.
I was a commenter who pointed out the QM2 liner thing, and I came into this one thinking "bit cheeky calling it a backlash, given it was well meaning and in good faith, but fair play" (relating to mine and all the comments I myself saw). However having seen the comments you put up I take it back, that is a 'backlash' just a really. really dumb one.
First to View Like and Comment, Enjoyed your Video. Love the way you defend yourself in an educational manner.
Those aren’t charter guests on Rising Sun, they’re David’s friends!
four minutes of through the looking glass - content writes itself! ;)
You turn into a savage when you have disputes with commentors 😂 I love it
Ha ha… didn’t say hole. Too funny. Thanks
I live in San Diego and took a small pleasure motorboat to get a couple close pictures. The boats move was big news the other day.
You make me laugh and your so right. Back in my day, in my life many many years ago, we use to look for the "boat" so I could land on it.
your a good bloke!
The QM2 cruse ship bit is classic, "ass hole" is one word😂.
Keep on rocking in the free world.
Excellent videos. I have three comments. In the piece on MY Amadea you say the boat was shown going "up river." The boat is in the Port of San Diego which, the best of my knowledge. does not include any navigable rivers. We are talking California which I believe has one navigable river, the Sacramento. Your piece on the righting of a sailing yacht asked why a similar method was not used to right Petrol. My simplistic answer is that Petrol is a lot bigger and heavier than the sailing yacht. The method used on the sail boat I suspect would not have worked on Petrol. My last comment is on describing Queen Mary II as a cruise ship rather than an ocean liner. I would point out that how a vessel is used does not really change what it was built as. After the surrender on Japan at the end of WW II many warships including battle ships and air craft carriers were used to transport troops back to their home country. That action did not transform those war ships into troop carriers. Troop carriers were a real type of ship during WW II. I would also point out that RMS Queen Mary and, I believe, RMS Queen Elizabeth were used as troop transport ships in WW II. I believe that other ocean liners were also used to transport personnel. That action did not make them troop carrier ships.
In the piece about righting the sailing ship, I said why they didn’t make a Timelapse of the righting, not use that method.
I never really thought about the differences between cruise ships or ocean liners so that was interesting to think about. I wonder if Titanic had lasted it's career would it have seen cruise service or just an ocean hotel somewhere until the end of her days.
Amazing how semantics get people pissed off. And I am pretty bad myself 😂, but those complaints were uncalled for.
" complain to the Capt. That they use it for cruises" What an elegant way to say kiss my ass! Great updates @esysman thanks for sharing.
Seem taking the yacht out for a cruise and running her is a matter of maintenance. 'When I rest, I rust'. So am not worried that it isn't being maintained. Preserving it as an asset seems to me to be the wiser path. All of this will probably get sorted before Italy is able to recoup the money they've spent. (Any update there?)
Always get a laugh from your sense of humor. It's unbelievable what ruffles feathers and sometimes we just have to get over ourselves.
Some people 🤷♂ Just have way too much time on thier hands. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
The QM2 is a cruise liner 😘👌 Great update 2x👍
Its OK, you are still a good man.
Enjoy the vids as usual. Keep up the good work, this is a nice distraction that’s completely unrelated to the rest of my life.
Lol “you’re disrespecting the QM2”. Is that guy for real? He must lead a very angry life!
There were quite a few. Surprised us too!
@@eSysmanSuperYachts What bugs me is detained vs. arrested!!!!!! JUST KIDDING LOL
Thanks for the Fun
Nice response to the critics, well done.
Always find it funny when you shout out all the people who get triggered in the comments 🤣😂🤣 the internet is a crazy place
Thanks for the info & humour ... why are people so picky??
ahhhh the swiss. they will always be helpful to themselves.
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Well done, bro...great 👍
I would have called it a cruise ship as it doesn't do what ocean liner is supposed to do I love listening to the complaints and love your channel Richard Lewis
A heartbreaking report, Lahina Town, an old whaling town on Maui has burnt to the ground. Due to hurricane Dora's high winds and extremely dry conditions. 💔
We used to Ocean Liners back in the early 80s.
If it looks like a duck, quacks like a duck, and tastes like a duck, it’s a cruise ship. 😂😂😂😂 Keep up the good work. 👍🏽
The English refer to the Atlantic as the "pond," so it is a Pond Liner.
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Good job you didn't call qm2 a boat 😂
Love the Ferrari analogy. I wonder if Enzo would like Ferrari building that not SUV vehicle? If it makes money and helps pay for racing, then he might approve.
There is another way to stabilise; gyros…
They don’t take up too much space, and are pretty efficient these days. Not that Rising Sun is renowned for her efficiency. I think at sprint she consumes 20,000 litres per hour!
A rose by any other name should smell as sweet. Send the critics up the wall by calling the QM2 “ a little boat “ ! The righting of the sailing ship was interesting to see. As to the Russian yacht under detention in the US, this is similar to a case of a dog catching a car. The US should never have seized private property. It is idiotic that the vessel costs over $1 million a month. I would bet that there is a concocted story to justify a joy ride around the harbor. A Freedom of Information request would likely show people on board the cruise that were not necessary.
1:17 what the hell is the master of Bullshido, Steven Seagal doing onboard? 🤣
Ferrari taxi... I like your style sir! :D
As a U.S. citizen, you have the right for a speedy trail. If the owner wants his ship back he can take the US government to court if you have a good case to argue. If you are a foreigner or a citizen hire an Attorney.
A speedy trail? Maybe trial is the word you are looking for.
Understand your point, but I had to, sorry
This boat is a US Citizen? Really.... I would believe that it is inanimate property.
Your videos are all fantastic, informative and very entertaining. Too bad some people get set off on a really small (to me) error if you will. Glad you handled the wording of that big boat as professionally as you did! Ocean liner, Cruiseship, as the song goes, You say, Tomato, i say Toma to! Thanks!
Hi, Always Lovely to see what *'Boats'* are _Floating about,_ or not, on the Waters.
Would One have issue as to water vessel's 'proper' type when it's Theirs? I wouldn't, just so long it Floats. : }
One of the reasons we have the problems in the world today is that there are over sensitive Muppets that have nothing better to do than try and stir things up. Keyboard warriors who would never say anything to your face. They just troll the internet looking for stuff to contradict... So Ocean Liner / Cruise ship is neither here nor there. In days gone by for sure they crossed Oceans, Southampton / New York etc and that is pretty much all they did. Today they have to fulfill both roles by providing cruises. So both descriptions apply Keep up the great content.
I noticed there's been no mention of Multiverse in the BVI recently as a yatspot. Its been there for months now and while myself and a crew spotted it when we were there, we didn't anchor close enough for images. Surely one of your fans around has footage? Thoughts?
YaY, Yacht Legality News!
An ocean liner can be a cruise ship but not the other way around.
I could see the sale being on hold over saftey concerns of retaliation on the ship by the former owner. As that risk could drastically reduce the price.
Back in jan (I think) of 1960, my mom, sister, and I sailed from NYC to Cork Ireland on the RMS Parthia II, a Cunard ship. It was an OCEAN LINER, lol...
Right on dude !
Rogue waves and rogue gust of winds they do exist
Why doesn't the US just sell this boat
I guess you did not understand the explanation given.
nice one
An ocean liner can be a cruise ship but a cruise ship cannot be an ocean liner.
A subtle way to embarrass @spyro... ! 🤣🤣 I have a feeling you won't hear much from him after this.
Amadea is back at the same dock it was before this video. Husband saw it today. On Vessel Finder it says it came back Aug 1.
The people bent out of shape over the terms ocean liner and cruise ship are the same ones that have no problem with a ship being referred to as a boat.
I love the D&D reference in that regard, well done!