'WWE Day Of Reckoning 2' RETROSPECTIVE - Triangle X Squared O.
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- Опубликовано: 29 фев 2024
- In 2005, the Nintendo Gamecube was not only an official disappointment from a sales perspective, but it was on its last legs, as well. Rumblings of the mysterious ‘Revolution,’ were getting louder and louder, while the PlayStation 2’s numbers soared to record heights and the Xbox 360 was nearing its launch. Nintendo’s boxy little boy was on its farewell tour, and with World Wrestling Entertainment by their side, they were looking to close out their in ring career on a high note. With an impressive trilogy of games already in their wake and a fourth on the horizon, the trio of Yuke’s, THQ and WWE knew one thing: this final entry had to be a banger. On today’s episode of Triangle X Squared O: The Wrestling Game Retrospective Series, we dive deep into WWE Day Of Reckoning 2.
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That was Paul London and William Regal’s actual themes at the time, that’s why they’re in the game.
I didn't question London's theme in general. Was pointing out that it sounds exactly like that HIM song.
@@616EntertainmentRegal changed his theme because he was a Babyface at the time
Already beat me to it. Yeah it was around the time that Regal was mentoring Eugene. He definitely didn't have it for too long.
Better version of the previous game imo, Better gameplay, Better graphics, Better season mode. They nailed the sequel.
I never cared for the 1st one but was obsessed with the 2nd one.
No doubt.
I agree! I have both. I rarely play the first one. It's so difficult.
Better graphics, better gameplay, better ingredients, better pizza Papa John's.
The stamina system got annoying tho
I always loved that Kurt takes his shoulder straps off
This is peak WWE gaming in my opinion. My love for this game never goes away
Excellent game.
So that was Willam Regals short lived theme from 2004-2005 when he was a face.
Insane.
That game’s BGM was just clean. I wish we can go back to BGM in the 2k games because these licensed music nowadays suck. It obvious we’ll never go back to the SVR days when it comes to the soundtracks.
So good.
They color palette is a thing of beauty
It's a bit dark, nut it still works.
Good GameCube wrestling games
Wrestlemania X8
Wrestlemania XIX
Day of Reckoning
Day of Reckoning 2
Indeed. WMXIX is my favorite.
I enjoyed playing the Day of Reckoning 1 and 2 on the Nintendo GameCube it was a fun game series
I feel like the Day of Reckoning 2 what's in the same sense of No Mercy where you could have a lot more moves and finishers that you wouldn't see until the the 2K series for the longest time and you didn't have that many moves for your character in like the early 360 games it took a while for that the switch over
Yea, especially 1.
I have both I like DOR 2 but not DOR 1.
That cage match😡 I haven’t played DOR 2 in years but I do remember that match. I still remember something that makes it easier to beat it though. I remember RKO-ing everyone and that gave me a fighting chance at least.
Same lol I I think I RKOd one guy, then hit another and the collision system knocked down the other one and I managed to get out.
Put the stone cold stunner as a finisher during the match stun all 3 and you gonna win
Cage match was out of control.
The more impressive thing is this is a GameCube game
No doubt.
@@616EntertainmentSurprised you didn’t talk about how you can interrupt every move by hitting the wrestlers mid move. It makes triple threat and fatal four way chaotic fun.
My 2nd favorite wrestling game ever. The CAW was awesome, the story mode was great, the gameplay was smooth and the roster was really good too. Great review dude.
Thanks for watching!
The cool thing about these games at the time (Abe Simpson voice) was that the hit detection worked on objects and people dynamically like they do in modern games as opposed to the Smackdown series formula of say needing to set an opponent up with a table and initiate a canned animation.
The toss off the top through the table was definitely fun to pull off.
The stamina system ties into the submission system. Allowing you to do rest holds. It used to annoy me too, until I figured it out
You can also replenish stanima by selecting rest hold when applying a submission. However, I wish you could just turn off stanima entirely.
Need stamina to do it, and you risk being reversed. Should have just been a button!
@@616Entertainment Agreed
The biggest problem with that was your opponent, especially if it was an actual human, knew you'd select Rest Hold because they could tell your stamina was shot.
The models and overall visuals still hold up today.
Sure do. I just wish the animations were better.
The box art alone is worth the price of admission 😜
Absolutely.
The way you were going on about Stacy was the way I go with Lita lol.
I spent so much time with this game. I did not get the Xbox or PS games until later generations. So during the SVR craze, this was my jam.
Great jam.
This is the only game to properly get Eddie's Low Rider entrance correctly. The car moves so fluid. Hasn't been replicated since
I've always thought the same thing! Glad I'm not the only one
Dude!! So fast!! This is awesome 🤘🏻❤️ Loved that isometric cam
When I said the let’s play style videos would be toned down and possibly phased out in favor of more scripted, in depth stuff, this is what I’m going for. Thank you for noticing.
The graphics are amazing in this game. Looks better than WWE Raw 2 for Xbox and SVR for PS2.
This game will sadly rarely be brought up in the discussion of greatest wrestling games ever made. But I believe it is absolutely one of them.
It's a really, really good one.
The wrestle kingdom games for Kapan from that same time period used the same gameplay and had some very interesting rosters for those that have the ability to do so check them out. They were quite fun as well.
I spent so many hours on both games.
Both really good.
@@616Entertainment it's was the create a wrestler mode I spent a lot of time finding the CAWs online lol
I remember that cage match too, had to make my specials the RKO and running Sweet Chin Music, only way to hit them quick and have a chance lol
Dude that running Superkick was so quick.
I had to come here to personally thank you for interjecting HIM into this video. I had it on in the background while folding laundry and heard you say endless dark and had to rewind it. 🖤
I'll always slide them in wherever I can, hahaha
No freaking way! A week after the first, you’re already doing the second, let’s freaking go!!!😁
This game truly means a lot to me personally. This was my very first ever wrestling game as a whole, and I can’t tell you how much me and my brother played the sh*t out of this game back then, and even nowadays whenever we have the chance. The gameplay was fantastic as ever, the story mode was amazing and was a HUGE improvement over the first, despite its BS moments (I’m looking at you, SummerSlam Fatal 4 Way Steel Cage match😂🤣), the graphics not only are tremendous, they still hold up incredibly well to this very day, the soundtrack while removing a lot of the licensed tracks the few we got like Burn It All by A Dark Halo, I swear it makes this game so much damn memorable. While the criticisms are valid here, the positives far outweigh the negatives here, and that’s why I love it so much.
Thank you so much for the nostalgia, Ian, and thank you for always making legendary bangers left and right. You’re the best with retrospectives and I can’t wait for more of Triangle X Squared O in the future😌. I love you and all the DanDans, and I hope y’all have a good one.😊❤️
Thanks for watching!
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Anytime for you, DanDan🙂
Speaking of story mode in DOR 2 my brother and i struggled for hours we suffer so much facing captain insano (big show) and RVD in steel cage triple threat match hoping to get both DOR 1 and 2 in my collection to relieve another childhood experience
Dude those cage matches are insane, lol
Played this game for hours when I was in middle school
Day of Reckoning 2 IS for sure better than 1, but i was always a little disappointed in it because there were no new match types and STILL no backstage areas. for that reason, the game i go back to the most is still WrestleMania XIX. it has the most variety with its Revenge Mode, AND by far the best roster out of any of them.
I also prefer WMXIX to either DOR.
Agreed, WM XIX is arguably the best wrestling game on the GameCube based solely on creativity in my opinion. You have to admit it was fun using a sledgehammer to beat up your friends vehicles. Or SMASH!!(Don't know who it was that did the voiceovers for all the elimination and smashes, but they were awesome!)a few things with your friends at the mall.
Geezuus... almost back2back, thanks man!
I've had MK Monday and 616Nitro done so far ahead of schedule and I've just been working working working on these scripted videos. The amount of work is out of control, lol
You can actually get your stamina up using submission moves
That requires a bit of stamina to get into, and you risk getting reversed.
@@616EntertainmentRisk? In my wrestling game? Unspeakable
@@predeterminedmeat5024 I mean you can defend poor design all you like. There's a reason the SVR games had a simple button and far fewer people complain about it.
I remember buying a GameCube in 2009 or so just to play this game, looking back I wish I held on to the game system now that's its so fucking expensive to buy retro games ☹
Absolutely.
@@616Entertainment so I'm curious do you use emulators for some of these videos or go out and buy the games? I know some of these games are outrageously overpriced. Thanks for the like btw!
15:19 lmao the "victory" lap
Great video as always man! But I have to say as a side note…
I am excited to see the Vice City and San Andreas videos! These were my peak PS2 along with HCTP! Congrats to your growing Patreon!
Thanks for the support!
This has always been the best example of a “wrestling-sim” style WWE game that’s ever been put out IMO,
at least in terms of gameplay & the A.I.-logic in single-matches.
The submission system is still the absolute best of its kind, I truly believe.
People used to complain about the stamina meter, and tho it is rough with low stats, i always appreciated how that particular feature truly made you think & strategize your every move when facing people like Angle, Taker, or Hogan on Legend difficulty.
No way are you gonna win a match in this just mashing buttons & going full-out spot-fest mode, but few wrestling games make a hard-fought victory over an OP character feel like such a satisfying accomplishment.
Can’t think of many other wrestling games that make you feel like you’re “working” a match w/ actual in-ring psychology at play just like a pro would, all while still providing intense unrivaled god-like difficulty for the hardcore players out there.
And the graphics… in 2005/2006, for a GameCube game, this was basically Crysis-level advanced AF graphics.
DoR2 is TRUE definition of an underrated gem.
Dude absolutely. The graphics are insane for their time, especially on the Gamecube.
Wait.... you're telling me all I had to do is press Select on Smackdown vs Raw 2006 to regain stamina!?
...how did you not know this?!
Hold up! What happened to seeing you? I like you taking time out and talking to us. Smh I guess it is what it is.
There are a couple factors. For one, I'm just trying out a format that doesn't include me on screen to see how it flows. I think it works really well. But the bigger factor is just having a new puppy (shoutout to the Panda Bear). I have far less free time, she like to mess with the tripods, she makes a ruckus when I'm not paying attention to her, etc. So until she gets a little older and more mature, it's going to be much easier to have to put all that extra time in. Only temporary.
There were comments here and there calling me fat and ugly and to get off the screen, don't worry, those don't bother me. lol
GameCube was a beast the discs were an issue and the compression used. We always knew we weren't getting a ps2 esq game with all thr modes. We were happy with having an original game for our Nintendo those of of use who went from thr snes to 64 thrn finally GC. WWE releases always felt special back then like a star wars game did. We knew it was thr inferior game compared to SD or SvR but we didnt care. This game was thr perfect send off form WWE on thr GC. Great video 🤟✌️
I still haven't beaten that fatal 4 way cage match to this day. I think I might need to invest in a gamecube just to beat it. It's been nearly 20 years since I've played it.
Day Of Reckoning 2 really did a good job for the Gamecube.
Can we get a documentary of the injustice games?
That fatal 4 way was tough enough but the fact that it had Kane in it took it to soulsborne levels of difficulty
Hahahaha
Put thousands of hours into this back in the day. By far the best wrestling game of its generation and the gameplay alone was so good that it didn't need the gimmick matches that Smackdown (Vs Raw) series had.
Fun fact: The game allows for a surprise win now and then if you do a roll up pin in the first few seconds of the match. (good way to piss off your mates)
That 4 way cage match was one of the most brutal things I experienced as a kid in a wrestling game story mode since the handicap matches with the APA in No Mercy 😂.
BUT, there's an easy, maybe a little cheap, way of doing it. There are moves in the game (like the scissors kick) where the animation has you kick the opponent, they kneel down, you run to the ropes, and then the move finishes. If you do one of these moves and hit the button to target another wrestler as you're running, the move won't finish and the wrestler you were initially performing the move to gets frozen in the kneeling position. You can do that to all three wrestlers and win pretty easy. Cheap? Yes. But fuck that cage match 😂
That's actually a hilarious workaround, hahahaha
I always made quick hitting finishers that has a lot of movement like the RKO or Stunner and allow the physics of the game to work its magic. The amount of crossfire damage you can do to other wrestlers you’re not doing the move to is insane.
Always excited for a new episode! Thanks again brotha.
Thanks for the support!
Awesome retrospective brotha! It's crazy that I've never played this one and it sucks cause it looks so good. Funny that you mentioned the William regal theme in the game. That's a song he used to have once upon a time as a joke character and one time wwe played it as a joke during his entrance and looks like they kept it in this game. Atleast I believe this was the song lol
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That's insane that I just got done watching your Day of Reckoning review this morning. Really appreciate your honesty about that game and im looking foward to seeing what you gotta say on this review. One thing I absolutely hate about this game is the stamina system though, and you can't even turn it off like in SmackDown versus Raw 2006
Oh I get on the stamina, don't worry.
Many thanks again guys for making these game reviews been waiting for a while for the classic day of reckoning series takes me back in regards to regals theme it was his theme during his tag team run with Eugene flashbacks to hearing this live at UK first ever live raw in Manchester bischoff screwed regal and Eugene off a win and made sure la resistance won fans weren't happy but miss gamecube days underrated console for sure
No "guys", just me, hahaha. Thanks for watching!
The Paul London entrance cutting out around 12:00 was sooooooo funny! LMFAO
Dude he was FLYIN'
I had to change my finisher to one with k.o. effect to win that fatal 4way cage match
This game sure does hold up!
Absolutely.
Would love to see a WWE 12,13 and 2K14 retrospective
All in due time.
I always dug this one. Thanks for covering it big hoss.
Thanks for watching!
Day of Reckoning 2 is such an amazing game glad i bought this game along with my Nintendo gamecube especially with stacy keibler being on the cover that was an instant buy for me the story mode is great can't believe that this game turns 20-years old next year time flies the graphics looks impressive coming off the first game.
Dude the graphics 100% still look excellent, it's crazy.
@@616EntertainmentI agree 100%
Lets go! Always up for a 616 upload!
Yessir!
You climb the cage faster if your adrenaline meter is flashing red! Best way to beat the cage match. You climb cold, you're in trouble. Similarly to No Mercy. If you're like in the blues you'll lose your grip and take a self bump on the mat.
Regal’s theme at that time went along when they turned him face thanks to Eugene.
Yea somebody shared a link, insane.
@@616Entertainment It’s weird. Once they sent Regal back to Smackdown after the Eugene thing he would eventually get his banger theme back and would get his homeboy as a tag partner not long after lol.
Was waiting for this miss the game cube days
Back in 2005 the 4 way cage match during story mode made me cry so hard when I was a kid I refused to play that game ever again 😂
Hahahahahaha
This game is one I wish i had kept instead of selling off for extra cash when I needed it back before GameCube prices surged. I had some real bangers in that collection that I truly miss, and it's why I'm not fully against emulation these days. These games are nowhere near perfect, but a lot of what they brought to the table are what the current wrestling game landscape is starting to capture with their gameplay. Fight Forever reminded me of these games as much as No Mercy, and I really should replay it a little given the extra content it now has.
Fight Forever is really fun, just sooooo shallow.
Regal briefly had that theme as a face. I think it's supposed to sound like the stones but he's more into metal and aka like Saxton, Slade, The Specials.
My brother and I still play this game!
Hell yea!
In my opinion DOR2 might be tied with No Mercy. Great, great game. The CAW was so fun to mess around with friends
That pedigree hell in a cell bump was so sick.
I love the the let’s play series you do Ian but I also love hearing you’re takes and personal stories when you talk about games like you do for these videos. Like the DOR 1 I had the rose tinted glasses at first then you went on to explain you’re complaints for the game I was like damn yeah I do remember that being not so good
Yea, still a good game, just not perfect.
That fatal 4 way cage match is bringing me nightmares to this day! I remember me and my brother tried everything under the sun to win we even gave all 3 wrestlers stacy keiblers moveset and kane would just saunter over and slap the hell out of me still!
WWE SmackDown Vs Raw 2006 (PS2) is so much better than WWE Day Of Reckoning 2
I remember the load times for this game were BRUTAL
Yea, they can be a bit much.
I figured if they made Day Of Reckoning 3, they'd based it off the 05-06 roster.
SD: Batista, Rey Mysterio, Kurt Angle, Eddie Guerrero, Randy Orton, Undertaker, Booker T, JBL, Bobby Lashley, Chris Benoit, Mr. Kennedy, Finlay, Mark Henry, Matt Hardy, William Regal, Chavo Guerrero, Paul London, Brian Kendrick, Johnny Nitro, Joey Mercury and The Boogeyman.
RAW: John Cena, Edge, Triple H, HBK, Mick Foley, Rob Van Dam Ric Flair, Carlito, Big Show, Kane, Chris Masters, Umaga, Shane Mcmahon Shelton Benjamin, Lance Cade, Trevor Murdoch, Snitsky, VIscera and Vince McMahon
Divas: Trish Stratus, Lita, Mickie James, Melina, Victoria, Torrie Wilson, Candice Michelle, Krystal Marshall and Jillian Hall.
Legends: The Rock, Stone Cold, Hulk Hogan, Bret Hart, Mr. Perfect, and Roddy Piper.
ECW: Sabu, Tommy Dreamer, Sandman, Dawn Marie and Justin Credible.
It'll pretty much be a lesser version of SVR '07 with half the modes cut due to the game cartridge.
that cover art brought back memories
Need that VPW2 video. I need you to see the MMA mode and pre match promos. In other news I was able to find a Dan Severn CAW for the game and it looks good
I'm very glad you share the same opinion about DoR2 like me. Was so hyped about the prequel and liked it at first. Then the music got so annoying (yeah SvR had the same soundtrack plus a few more songs, but I didn't play it back then). After playing it with a friend for just a month I hid the game in a locker and pretended I sold the game. Didn't want to play DoR1 anymore because of the music. Gameplay was alright but didn't make up for the bad menu songs. Eventually sold it after two months after that.
Following year DoR2 came out without much fanfare. Bought it and wasn't hyped nearly as much like with the first one. Was pleased with the music not being that annoying and the overall game being better, although not essentially better. Liked the storymode a lot more than DoR1's bland story.
Might be a little crazy, but I played DoR2 for like 3 years before it got boring. Great game and a worthy last hooray for the shortlived series.
DOR2 way better, for sure.
I hope you talk about that god awful fatal 4 way cage match.
EDIT: THANK YOU. I COULD NEVER BEAT THE STORY MODE BECAUSE OF THE GAME AS A KID. I played ita few years ago as an adult and prioritized speed and stamina and used the stunner and clothesline from hell as finishers. And made my guy a cruiserweight. As soon as i beat it i went back to being a heavyweight grappler like i always do. Brutal match lol it always came down to the timer and not even a cpu escaping. Shit was one of the hardest most infuriating levels in any game. Not just wrestling ones.
Me and my brothers favorite game on GameCube. Always played as hurricane
Great game!
Honestly, the Gamecube is THE console for wrestling games. You have the four best WWE games outside of No Mercy, both Def Jam games, not to mention Ultimate Muscle, which in a lot of ways is No Mercy 2. Wrestling fans with a Gamecube ate surprisingly well.
I'm a PS2 guy, but it's hard to go wrong on Gamecube, there's no doubt.
You oughta check out some of the CAW Shows I've helped put on and that I'm actively a part of when it comes to Day of Reckoning. My buddy Ellibod has absolutely mastered the art of utilizing this game to put on a show. The Forbidden DoR Mod is also cool. It's like almost putting absolutely everything from the GameCube Games and then some all into Day of Reckoning.
The graphics of this game feel like they are not drawn on a computer, and you may feel that the developers filmed everything in the ring and the wrestlers, modified it for the game, and created graphics to resemble Sony 3.
I bought a GameCube because of the resident evil remake, was worth it be fair
So, so good.
This is also the only wwe game to have multi- man last man standing matches.
Damn, i need to get another gamecube so i can play these classics
Nice!
Didn't even touch on the custom entrances and the tag moves or tag call in options. DoR 2 is an amazing wrestling game and call back to the N64 days.
The Fatal Four Way Steel Cage Match...
Insaaaaaaane.
Rumble Roses uses the corner cam...
It does, you're right. I even have a 616Thunder episode on it and I forgot, lol
I remember that fatal 4 way cage match giving me problems lol a friend told me give my guy the trapping headbutts move & a running finisher like the spear… I used the headbutts to bust all 3 of them open badly & then hit them all with the spear after that none of them could get up & I escaped the cage
Any of those "knock everyone down" moves was good.
14:54 On the Wii the first 2 SVR games released on it were not just regular ports they were actually different in gameplay and other ways than the ones on other systems, they used the motion controls which was actually pretty fun from what I hear, I never played them myself so I can't say if they were fun or not
I just mean having their own specific series. I'm sure they were pretty different, had to be!
Awesome game! Loved playing this and countering finishers with people back and forth
So good.
The lifting of the head is kinda funny like everyone's a heel and are just like "look" 😂
If only heels did it, it'd be more understandable!
i full on quit the Story Mode once i got to that cage match. also Wario World is an underrated gem. i'd sell my copy to you if you don't mind the fact that my mom wrote my name on the disk in sharpie for some reason.
Hahahaha mom on protection duty, I love it.
The corner-camera angle is the standard angle in Rumble Roses. It also plays like a weird hybrid of some the SvR titles, but I don't think you'll be able to monetize a video on it...
Hahahaha hey, I think I did a 616Thunder on it that didn't get demonetized.
Best way to win the fatal 4 way cage match is set your finisher to the big swing that way you can hit everyone around you
This is a good call.
Oh god I hope I didn't take it personally last time xD
Edit: Also not the alternative gamecube when you hold down Z!
I'm watching this channel to improve my English. This game is one of the best.
Your English is great, I never wouldn't known you weren't a native speaker.
so cool
Paul London's intro is nearly shot-for-shot his Velocity intro for the first of his four amazing matches he had with Akio (Jimmy Wang Yang)
They added a fancier camera on the ramp.
Right when London hits the right, the camera changes to that angle behind the fans and the commentators read 3 ads with their respective graphics filling most of the screen. Remember when they did that every show? It's be like Skittles, JVC KaBoomBox, Motor oil or some LUGZ... wtf exactly is their key demo? A young construction worker with a family?
Anyway I'm sure London has the outfit on in DOR 2 in Akio vs London I (out of IV.)
Always hated how nearly every game had London OR Kendrick. SVR '09 has both so I never sold it to GameStop.
From a sales perspective, it should be surprising to learn, the Game Cube was extremely profitable for Nintendo. Yeah. I was a Cube stan and I couldn't believe it.
"Extremely" is a stretch, but it did reach the black, yea.
That boy Paul London said he got places to be he don't get paid by the hour
Hahahaha
This Comment is funny Marvelle My Cousin Mission Complete on what you said LOL!😆😆😆 About Paul London when Tony Chimel was not finished with his introduction! Mission Failed to Tony Chimel for being too slow and this happened to other WWE Wrestling Games where The Announcers are too slow to finish their introductions to Paul London if it's a special match stipulation. But, This Comment is done Cousin!
The first DoR will always be better than the second one imo. I hated the stamina system on DoR2, and I actually liked the licensed music in the first game.
Also all of the pauses in between every option when making a CAW drove me crazy lol
The CAW pauses are indeed annoying, but I've got DOR2 > DOR1 by like 100,000 miles.