Winners and losers of the SF6 Balance Patch
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- Опубликовано: 31 май 2024
- 00:00 - Intro
01:34 - Luke
04:55 - Jamie
09:38 - Ryu
16:11 - Ken
19:11 - Zangief
21:48 - Chun Li
23:48 - Deejay
25:34 - Dhalsim/Blanka
25:55 - Manon
27:36 - JP
37:03 - Rashid
38:27 - AKI
44:24 - Roundup/Conclusions
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as a jamie player, I feel loved and appreciated by capcom! we have a level 2 super now!
Actually unreal
you actually think Jamie is a good character now? Jamie sucks hard
Pfp goes hard with this comment
@@azizkash286 Where in his comment says that he think Jamie is a good character? He just said thanks to Capcom, that's it lol
I think Capcom were worried he would be too strong. This level 2 buff makes me think this is what they originally wanted it to be.
Maybe it'd be busted, but one other change I'd like to see with Jamie's level 2 is that any drinks he does during the level 2 add to his underlying drink level. This would almost literally be the "keep your drinks from the previous round" buff all the Jamie players have been asking for without going against the spirit of the character concept... on top of giving it a significant resource cost to get there.
Also a UI change: Rather than boosting his drink level to 4 in the UI when he's in his level 2 super, they should add an effect around the drink level indicator that shows that he's in level 2, and the drink level he's currently at underneath that Level 2 super.
Jamie's DP is actually hitting higher, The air grab of Zangief and Chun Li's air lighting kicks used to be able to bait Jamie's DP, but now they cannot. But nobody believe me..
I believe you 🗿
They should raise the zangief air spd hurtbox it SHOULD bait anti airs
@@pandabs6845 🤟
i believe you bro
@@jortsman9146 ❤️
Broski in SF5: Instant Yoga gale is perfectly fine.
Broski in SF6: Instant air legs is bullshit.
what do you expect from a hypocrite?
Sorry but if you're comparing the tools of sim and chun across two games you're very stupid lol
It's almost like there's nuance in balancing a fighting game
@@PotofGluesomeone that has a brain.
Good on you bro 👍
@@YouAlreadyKnowBabi such a cool and edgy response
You were probably the most confident debunking the luke cr mp nerf too
It's funny seeing 46 minutes on this video and then less than 10 minutes for other videos about this patch. Good shit!
RIP Chun Li jab😢
That button carried me to master
Ive actually seen Gief catch Blanka ball with his LVL 1 since the update lol.
The Zangief air super thing isn't about the hitbox, it's that it has an 11 frame start-up so if you do it late against a jump it's never going to hit, they'll land before it can hit them. If you frame by frame every time it misses Ken's landed by the time active frames are out. It's why Ken is landing and then re-jumping into the active frames.
The hitbox is considerably bigger on Gief SA1. Its startup is just 11 frames and the height you attempted it on lands on the ground before it becomes active. 10 frame ground supers also get blocked at that jump height.
Yeah that’s what I was thinking. Thanks for pointing that out.
I don't know why they didn't just copy Potemkin's Heavenly Buster's numbers and be done with it. The character in a game with longer air time has a faster anti air super while a game with only one character that stalls in the air gets the slowest anti air in the world.
Still sounds like an issue imo, I feel like it should start up a lot faster so you can't beat it with jumps. Imo, any move that can literally only hit aerial opponents should be really good at hitting aerial opponents
@@KingOfDarknessAndEvil It could definitly stand to be a bit faster yeah
17:00 I think the Idea here is to make it so when Ken uses the fast jab out of DR on purpose to make the opponent whiff their dr check, the opponent doesn't actually whiff now, they'll stuff the jab. Angry Bird did that a lot too, used the jab to stop midway and make them whiff a button or a dp, now a dp might even hit Ken's jab hurtbox
I honestly think nobody would be mad if they just made Gief’s SA1 absolutely cracked. Just give it faster start-up, and a massive anti-air hitbox.
You could even give it even more recovery frames, so if he just throws it out, even your grandma gets a punish counter combo
Anybody uses zangrief cant complain 3 spds check mate facts he does stupid damage and his ca is dumb
@@the.dark.rygin.lordchaosin9779lol
@@the.dark.rygin.lordchaosin9779 You have to land the spds first what are you going on about
I'd be fine with further nerfs, not because gief is strong or something, but because fuck grapplers
@@manuelsanchez9649 dont make me laugh he has so many ways to land them it isn't hard unless u dont know how to use him
Really nice seeing the changes after so long
Interested in what they will do for the big patch
I agree about the change to JP crouch fierce. Not sure what he uses to AA now. Maybe they want him to have to be proactive about AA and use air throw? I would absolutely love that change on Luke. Force him to DP.
Its still a decent AA. Just can't spam it now.
You can still use his anti air, his crouching fierce use to have upper body invincibility for some reason and now they took it out so at the very least it will trade, people think capcom nerfed him for no reason lol. Now it works like every other anti air in the game
@@coolswag4612 the nerf to his sHP and OD amnesia are bigger. The fact you don't gain meter as well as the scaling is pretty big.
Standing Heavy Kick is a very good anti-air
Jp is still very strong dispite his minor nerfs
Check this out: Solar plexus proximity block change is the preparation for Akuma's kara demon.
Medium hasho is mainly used to bait drive impact as you can counter in time in some but not all medium hash block strings
@ 29:43 Guile's 2HP is actually one of the few 2HPs that doesn't have any form of airborne invincibility. But he also has 5MK (which does have some) and Flash Kicks, so yeah.
Most characters in the game have normals that have some form of air invincibility to help anti-air with it. JP himself for example has 2 other normals that still have it: 5HK and 6HK
im happy to see some attention being given to zangief was worried the devs might down the route of keeping him bad like I've seen some people say.
what attention? they give him nothing.
@@DeathDasein They made it so he can go into his level 3 from his ex lariat which is something. It's not much but it shows they're at least looking to make him better.
@@Draconaiithis is just as much of a buff as tundra storm
@@sonicphoenix7 I'm not saying it's a game changer, but would you or would you rather not have more ways to go into your level 3 as zangief, it's more damage overall compared to before.
Lots of fighting game devs are big on the grappler tax. Good throws usually equals bad neutral, which usually equals bad character.
The biggest thing about Gief SA1 to me could be how it can be used to blow through a lot of random moves, such as Rashid Eagle Spike or Lily Spire
@Broski I am at work and cannot lab but need to know with the extended range on the crouch Jab during combos where you can get the third crouching jab can you still Drive Cancel into crouch jab medium punch ?
Fixing Manon's SA2 was needed, however i dont understand granting her momentum on her back medium kick, but not giving her a farther reaching drive rush. She's usually too far away to drive rush in with anything other than Standing MP or HP, this change is a little lackluater.
I'm guessing they felt any Drive Rush changes would be too significant in this patch. Maybe it'll be adjusted in the season 2 patch a few months from now.
I wish they'd nerf every dRush to Manon's level lol, it would probably break most dRush combos tho
@@nickkiller-0710that would be stupid the game would become very stale, not everyone has poking on her level, infact only ken luke and jp, maybe chun have poking close to the level of manon or better
@@bigjc5546 So you're saying every SF game before 6 is stale then, since dRush is a SF6 mechanic lol
I mean, it mostly comes down to taste, but personally I think dRush is such a trash mechanic,
it just creates a bunch of uncertainty in the neutral and characters with good dRush jabs can just push that mix-up over and over, it leads to very scrambly matches(I'm looking at you DJ).
Also, a lot of characters can play the neutral just fine against Manon, she has good pokes, but she's very vulnerable to counter pokes herself. Heck, Juri can absolutely compete with Manon's buttons ON TOP of having one of the best dRushes in the game.
I don't have an issue with anti airs getting nerfed like JP's cr HP to not be brain dead, but I do have an issue with some brainless jumping normals like Luke's early jump heavy punch being so reliable at beating anti airs. If you nerf anti airs nerf some of these privelaged broken jumping normals as well. Also Luke's cr HP is one of the most braindead anti air normals in the game and I really don't understand why he needs it when he has a reliable DP.
Characters with DPs should all be like Cammy where back MP is a super unreliable anti air normal, but if you can DP properly you're fine. Cammy's DP is arguably the worst at anti airing as well since it whiffs on cross cut a lot vs stuff like Honda's butt splash and yet characters with more reliable anti air dps like Luke have broken anti normals like why? Why does Blanka get a 7F stand house that leads to a minimum 30% combo? Why does Chun-Li get a crazy good anti air 7F stand MK when she gets 1F tensho kicks on hitbox. It's stuff like this that doesn't make sense to me where characters with already strong privelaged anti air options also have the best anti air normals in the game which doesn't make sense to me.
This is exactly how I feel. I hate the jp anti air nerf, but I only feel it vs the stupid annoying matchups anyway. It only really matters vs characters like luke and ken with broken jump normals that already did fine vs JP. They just made his even/bad matchups worse and left his really good matchups the same.
The main thing that stuck out to me with Gief's EX Lariat into L3 change is that people pointed out that using Drive Rush to connect a Level 2 to a level 1 now does less damage for the same amount of resources than just EX Lariat-Level 3, and in that context yeah that makes perfect sense. Bear hugger might need some overhauls but now his L3 can be used for damage from a hit instead of just a reversal callout.
At least Manon SA2 will work now but she still needs some help tbh. I'll wait for the end of Season 1 to see how else they will give her more tools. Ryu also feels fun too after getting the small changes.
Small bit of feedback for your videos: I've noticed the noise gate on your vocals is a bit low, so there's a strong buzz whenever you speak. An easy fix would be some low level, relatively low-end background music.
Love the channel! Aki main love
Drive-rush standing heavy punch into heavy hoshogeki isn't a frame trap normally, but in burnout it is
But regardless, you can use that to skip neutral, it's just if it isn't in burnout, it's a mixuo
what every non-manon player missed about the "en haut" change is that pressing the button a second time is her overhead kick. the first kick isn't the important one for that button.
I wonder if they expanded the hurt box of Ken's jab downward, Juri has some blockstrings where his stand jab just beats her buttons cleanly because of how small the hurtbox was.
You also had to be really precise to stuff his jab with something like a walk back into HP before, I still have to lab how easier it got, but it could be a significant nerf
Dhalsim's teleport fix was a Modern fix I believe. There were weird states you could get in where you could only teleport in front and not behind the opponent.
With the Manon Level 2 fix I might actually get to Master now. Lost count of how many matches have been lost due to Level 2 whiffs
Ryu finally getting some Ws after getting his red fireball stolen by akuma
With the Ryu OD SRK change, you essentially got it right. Its just that the first hit previously pushed back and the patch changed the first hit to now knock down. While its quality of life, I wouldn't be surprised if most Ryu players consider this a down right bug fix or buff.
What i would like capcom to do next nerf certain extended hit boxes on certain characters like ryu players love to mash st hp and cr mp its as if they dont know when its there turn an they just mash till they either get a hit or till they get parried
@@the.dark.rygin.lordchaosin9779 You do realize that those are the only good starter/pressure normal Ryu has right? If you want Ryus to stop mashing those, everything else needs to be buffed so that it's not the go to option for everything.
Nerfing Dee Jay's low, but keeping it as strong if you have frame perfect spacing is such a chefs kiss fucking change
regarding ken's throw, the distance does prevent him from doing those really close, meaty stHP he would do before. he can still get them but he's just not in your grill doing it.
Yeah. Ken's meaty s.HP has a ridiculous +7 on meaty (if timed properly). The new range seems intentionally long enough that any follow up attacks will whiff. Previously if you landed a meaty s.HP you can just go to town on the opponent into a highly damaging combo.
Ryu is not the weakest character in the game, but he's by far the weakest shoto.
what are the sf6 shotos? luke ken and ryu?
@@vitulixodokrlyes
@@vitulixodokrl yeah. & Before game balance, there was no reason to choose Ryu. This makes him viable
@@eddiesimbol2661 chun , dee jay , blanka, guile what are they archetype?
@@vitulixodokrl charge type?
Finally Ryu buffs getting to master and staying around 1500 Mr has not been easy, too many matches screaming for buffs, here we are now so proud
That's not on Ryu
@@tinypig3191 a ton of characters have so many ways to start enforcing a strike throw mix and Ryu felt like he had none, he felt very limited against characters with the best tools, for seemingly no reason. between the hasogeki change and the ex dp change this does a lot for the character , and I bet your bottom dollar you’ll see more Ryu In Legend rank, never said it’s impossible to be good with Ryu or Ryu is unplayable, it just felt like he had to work harder
@@keylimecookies Again, it isn't Ryu's place on the tier list that keeps you at 1500. It's either you're not playing much ranked or you're not as good as you believe. Bringing Ryu's tier spot into it would only really hold weight at the higher levels.
@@tinypig3191 again not complaining that I’m hard stuck 1500, i am well aware there are better players than me, I Wasn’t blaming Ryu for my rank? Just saying he has been underwhelming since the game came out. you got the wrong guy fr dh
@@keylimecookiesive played some jamie players who have zero neutral at all and they could cook me off of just being the most perked out mfs alive. If you know what you're doing with you character, whoever they might be you can play outside of their faults and make them an upside
The JP crouch fierce nerf is probably the only one I disagree with. I always hate when a nerf is 'lol you can't anti-air worth crap anymore'.
You still can and also you had a dp without the dp motion that could cancel into special moves, it was probably the best anti air in the game
Haven't tested it myself, but he was also showing it vs arguably the best jump-in normal in the game. Let alone it is still trading, which some characters still don't reliably get lol.
You can anti air, it's just that it's not a brainless normal you can do and beat everything else without taking into consideration timing
They might readjust this when a major patch comes along with Akuma. Probably just testing the waters with this changes.
Seems the Ken DR jab nerf is not to make it easier to punish, but more consistent. Where as previously you might do the "right thing" and still get blown up, now those scenarios are weighted in favor of the check.
30:50 Holy shit dude, you ain't kidding. Unhinged takes on this character. I don't even play him, but AA nerfs are indeed always stupid. Had to deal with it when I played season 2 nerfed Alex and he didn't have a proper AA until like 3 years later.
Exactly, anti-air nerfs are almost always dumb. Jump-ins in this game lead to massive damage, corner carry, and generally great oki. Nerfing the answers to that sucks and just encourages yolo gameplay.
Jamie buffs lets goooooo
Can't wait for season 10 update where Shin Ryu is in the game and he get Tengu Stones for Super 2, Both denji hadounkens as super 1 and an actual Dragon going out with him with the Denjin Shoryuken and bitting the opponent like Shiryu or Goku with the Dragon First.
Thanks
Thanks broski
Ah great, as a Dhalsim main is was annoying AF when your instant air teleport landed on the wrong side to what you intended. Hopefully this sorts that bug.
I feel less bad about playing Aki and Jamie now
Definitely the two coolest characters to play for me personally so this patch is great
Us Jamie players drinking good
@@andimari9194 working lvl 2?! we makin it outta gold
I hope the devs look at dive punches. I use Ken, but I'm not going to pretend like that dive punch isn't broken.
Is that a new stage? Still waiting on the stages I paid for on day 1.
Yes, I think Akuma is also coming with a stage.
Who is that standing behind on this stage he might be a DLC character.
HP Hasho: I haven't done it in a while but if I recall correctly I think the only combo into HP Hasho is DR cr HP x HP Haho
I had a funky slicer for lunch.
Slight and measured balance changes are almost always better than broad and sweeping ones. Hopefully Capcom is more consistent with their update schedule going forward, but most of these changes feel really measured and good and not game or character breaking
Legitimately what is Capcom so scared of with Gief level 1?
For JP, what is the difference between “immediate scaling value” and “initial scaling value”?
Immediate means it will scale it to that number as soon as you do it in a combo (unless the scaling is already worse). Initial means that when it starts a combo it starts it at that scaling.
@@nodthenbow thank you, that’s helpful.
Even in SSBU, all of Ryu's hadouken variants are all better than Ken's. Makes sense they buffed them here
As a Lily Player, 😭😭
Guile and Ryu do NOT have air incinbility on their cr.HP
Kim and gief needs buffs
You was wrong? Time to eat those boogers broski.
Guile got a nice buff just due to the JP nerf.
Some of the stand jab changes are a puzzle. Part of my brain says they're actually changes made in advance of something in the future, not really as relevant right now.
I assumed it was to stop the Drive Rush Jab spam, these changes should make checking that a little easier. Unless I'm mistaken
@@Cinderkin It's hard to know. I haven't felt like it's any easier. But might just be Lily.
Where is jamie on the tier list when hes at max drinks? Im very curious about that
Maybe top 10 lol. Defo not top 3 tho
I'm not sure, but he's definitely still weaker than Luke.
Probably top 5. He becomes an excellent character but still has specific flaws.
Lol hopefully in the bin on that list where he belongs
Jamie lvl1-2: Cammy with extra steps
Jamie lvl3: Cammy with extra steps and a grounded command grab
Jamie lvl4: Cammy with extra steps, grounded command grab and gimmicky target combos you'll never use
People are flipping out about the JP cr.hp nerf. I dont think demonstrating it against Lukes jump fierce is the best benchmark. Both Luke and Kens j.hp should be nerfed in the big patch, not have everyone's normal AA be advantaged to the point that you can do last minute panic normals. JP's already has a good hitbox still. A normal trading with one of the best jump ins in the game isnt surprising when that happens to almost everyone else too.
Excuse number 2 for the win
where’s Kim?:(
45:37 1millyan speaking facts in the chat
I'm okay with JP losing his anti-air like that since he also has an air grab for some reason.
I'm kinda glad JP lost that anti-air so he's finally bad at SOMETHING. If he wasn't already so solid in pretty much every other area it'd be funky but bro was way too strong across the board
At least you weren't attacked with immaturity for being wrong 😂
I can finally play JP and feel less like a war criminal. I mean I'm still a criminal, but not a war-criminal
What makes jp cheap is most jp players dont do anything but spam and run the lack of him having interactions in the game is very annoying he basically wins without trying which is sad players need to play him in a different way that people can actually see that they have skill and that there not being carried cause 99.9 percent of jp players are carried and thats facts
@@the.dark.rygin.lordchaosin9779Speaking as a Manon player, you sound kind of crazy. JP is good yeah but the players are gaming too.
@@dud3inator speaking as a manon player u are crazy no one cares about what you think or your trash medal character go use an actual character that requires a brain and some skill how bout that instead of bombarding me with ur nonsense
cope on a whole new level
They should fix Manon's 2nd special, it is broken (in the "not working" sense of the word)
Capybara
Think the removal of JP’s invincibility on his normal anti air is from just how amazing its hitbox is. Was always the one button solution. You mention Guile’s crouch heavy, but the hitbox is very small that it doesn’t work in every situation.
Guile’s crouch fierce actually doesn’t have any air invulnerability hurt boxes. Guess Capcom figures that if you have down charge you should be Flash kicking anyway 🤷
Guile has an alternative flash kick as an anti air. 2hp is jps only option and having to trade and take counter damage almost everytime sucks.
Guiles 2HP trades a lot, it's ok sometimes when you can't charge FK, 2HP was JPs only AA since 6HK is too slow and distance dependant, I actually feel bad for JP this was not the right thing to target at all
remember JP has an airthrow?
@@joncliffmckinley5868 i dont think you play jp if you suggest air throw as an alternative. Its so bad as an anti air its better to just block and its only purpose is to throw the opponent into the corner when the opponent tries to bait a delayed tech by jumping
They fixed her.
Yaaa
I also feel like they've worked the input reader. It's not nearly as shit as it's been.
Sadly is not enough for Jamie yet. Still low tier.
The JP cr.HP nerf makes no fucking sense whatsoever. There are so many other things I would be completely happy to lose on JP as he’s a strong character but why in the fuck am I now forced to trade in almost 90% of anti-air attempts
As a S1 Rashid main “First time?” Thankfully I can now spend bar to have a reliable anti air
@@Crispyyy7 Yeah having a consistent anti-air is important. I don’t play rashid much so I’m not sure if his heavy spinning mixer is air invincible
I guess you'll just have to vary your options now?
His anti air was upper body invincible. No body else crouching fierce was upper body invincible so it’s fair.
i'm glad they nerfed the fuck out of Jp's crouching HP, along with the other nerfs. hopefully they nerf that character to the fucking ground in the main patch coming lol😂
I main Manon and I'm losing motivation to play. Her changes are useless and her Lvl 2 rework seems lazy. '' Hey we've fixed this super but in the case it fails again, you have some oki''🤦🏾♂️
She hits harder than zangief and Honda as a ballerina 🤦
& Now 😂
5 minute later
fith
Having played yesterday, after the patch, I can tell the "nerfs" are irrelevant for Luke and Ken. Why would they nerf the air tatsu? That's just offending the people's intelligence. The real problem with ken is his crouching medium kick and corner carry. Either make that crouching medium kick's hitbox slightly shorter, make the kick slower at the startup, or reduce corner carry a bit. That' could really help. Still, the real problem keeps being Luke. What they should have done is reducing the active frames of that crouching medium punch. I know at low level Luke players win by spamming it mindlessly and buffering into DR, but in high level, players only need to press it once to define a round because literally any button you press will just crash into it. I'm very thankful for the changes on JP, though. You can actually feel those changes as something useful. He's still very strong, though. That's how broken he was.
Luke crouch mp nerf is probably the second most needed change this patch after amnesia
@@bigjc5546 His crouching HP needs a nerf as well. It was as bad as JP's crouching HP, and it was probably worse.
If this is only the start of JP nerfs it has me pretty worried for the character. I'm fine with amnesia being nerfed because it was pretty ridiculous but literally no SG gain from a following combo? His AA being that much worse? And breaking the DG gain rules for fireball parries just to nerf his departure seems pretty heavy. I get people hate him but they shouldn't just kneecap him in the actual patch because people refuse to learn how to play against him
This is exactly how I feel. I wouldn’t care about any of his other changes if they didn’t nerf his one and only anti air for close jump ins
@@luKB01 yeah that's the most crazy one, I feel like this patch puts him down enough to where he should get mostly nothing for the actual S2 patch
@@aledantih6524 yeah if they would revert the cr.HP changes I think the nerfs are okay. I think not building drive gauge from amnesia combos on top of them doing 50% damage immediately is a bit stupid though like why not one or the other
@ You literally pushback the opponent fullscreen to your perfect range and can finish off with lvl3 if you want. The nerf on both is fine
@@Tabootrinket it’s incredibly strong but now if you wanted to do that you have to start the combo with lvl 3. I don’t think not building gauge is a bad change but the scaling is a bit too high
JP nerfs are so overkill
Silence zoner
The JP anti air nerf feels like capcom has embraced JP being an arcsys zoner instead of a street fighter style zoner. AKA more about full screen combos than actual screen control.
Jamie now has to be moved a bit higher in the tier list and he is gonna be more annoying, because now getting a dri k after a simple throw is very powerful, but he is still plus most if the time, which is bad for anyone on the receiving hand.
It is outrageous that Honda got no fix on the ridiculous Hurtbox during butt slam, and be grabbable at start of OD headbutt
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I like how they didn’t gut JPs identity, but provided some counter play to him. They could have nerfed his zoning or his juggles or something, but that wouldn’t be JP anymore. Instead now jump ins are more consistent Vs him and parrying is more rewarding, both of which don’t make JP weaker. Just counterplay is stronger
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"That's the kind of nerf that makes people not have fun playing JP"
I think they'll live, because playing against him is even worse
If you play competitive games with patch updates via the internet, you're a cuckoo.
Capcom has gone too far when nerfing JP's AA. Every characters must have a reliable AA option.
What? It's still usable, just not dumb invincible. It's an effin normal, not a special AA. It's not supposed to work like one.
@@hcbabyssian8936 are you unaware that unless the opponent jumps from full screen he now trades in 90% of jump ins and has literally no other consistent option. JP literally doesn’t have a command input for an anti-air, so of course he needs something to help stop jumps
@@luKB01 Vega spent sfv whole lifespan without any anti air since he had good pokes, capcom decided to give you JP players the same treatment, so like people said to me " go and air grab ", and even the, better a bad anti air than none at all like Vega
@@luKB01air throw?
@@jorge4572 just because a low tier character never received a consistent buff doesn’t mean that it was the right decision. Like I said, the JP nerfs are okay if you didn’t remove his one consistent anti-air. Also the air throw hit box is stupidly unreliable. and as far as I’m aware from when I played Vega, his cr.HP was effective against most air normals and he also had air slash
some of these jp nerfs are ridiculous.. he wasn't that op
I really do want to know the logic behind, "Jamie can full combo into super, drain half of the enemy's healthbar, and get a drink in, and still have advantage." Seems to me like that should go back into neutral at most.
Easy: Jamie has worked you into the corner, invested super meter to do a super and sacrificed some of the damage off of the ender to get a drink level instead.
The trade-off for Jamie's drinks right now seems to be less about going back to neutral and more having to spend some other resource to keep his aggression up... and most of his workable advantage off of his drink follow-ups is only available if he's worked you into the corner, which isn't an easy feat for a jamie with no drinks in him.
@@kevingriffith6011 That does provide a lot of insight, thank you.
Trash patch or junk patch
Found the JP main!
What a joke that they didn’t buff Guile
Great joke 😂
😂
It’s a small patch, other characters such a lily and Honda didn’t get touch either plus more
u need a barber
Jamie players are so lame
:O