Mara threatening Riven with the ole “the Guardian will turn you into a gun” thing is so meta and i fucking love it. This and the [joke] dialogue from Crow about the head of a Vex Gatelord just make this my favorite seasonal story from this year. Great writing and call backs.
Big thing in my opinion is that even though the writing is great at times, the seasonal model of delivering only bits of story a week kind of weakens the story as well.
To be fair, Osiris isn't nearly as strong as he used to be. Both losing his Light and Savathun's possession of him definitely weakened him a big deal. He's just now starting to get back into combat shape again with using Strand it looks like.
They reminded us in a holoprojector message that the awoken know he could use strand so it makes sense in the long run that it was him that stopped him
9:25 "lest I shape you into a trinket of caged hunger to be forgotten in the Guardian's vault" - my Queen you have certainly piqued my interest now _salivates at the thought of a wishdragon gun_ 😂🤣
Yes but she also knew he was right and she was giving into anger. Also had she attacked Osiris we are standing right there and are far, far more dangerous then Osiris. She doesn’t want to risk a direct conflict with someone who collects corpses or gods in their loot pile
So we need someone who has experience with the lay lines to be sent with the wish to open the way. I definitely see Mara or even crow to make the sacrifice. They both know how they operate Petra does as well but I don’t see her sacrificing herself.
Odds are it'll be Crow or Mara. Even ignoring their knowledge of the lay lines it has been established that they share a connection that pull each towards one a other. Even beyond dimensions. If our original path proves to not be as stable as we hope, then that connection between brother and sister could act as a backup form of navigation. If I had to place money I'd say Crow would be the one to go. Most because we know Cayde will be there, and Crow "wished" for a chance to apologize.
It’ll be Crow because Crow and Mara have a strong connection. Crow will go in and Mara will use their strong bond to find him and create a safe passage for All Guardians. How I came to this conclusion? It’s pretty easy if you pay attention to the story
Kinda I guess. It kinda seems like the traveler shot out it's door and the witness was able to use that fact it needed to open the door slightly to shoot out to force it's way in
One dont need the light to weild the darkness powers~ Though I thought his control was like SUPER limited without the light. Seems even lightless can use stasis or strand with training
Well Stasis and Strand are psychic/conceptual manifestations of Darkness. Powers that aren’t tied to the light which are based on the light. Darkness is merely psychic and anyone with paracasual knowledge or understanding can grasp or manipulate these dark powers
@@majesticmajestic7058 I'm fairly certain they both have some sort of… almost platonic relationship going on? At least I do know Osiris and Mara have worked together before so that's likely one reason Mara didn't get angry with him? Because they have a sort of trust?? I don't know though lol
@@dudehello2903 Her poster usually gives off the vibe of being better than everyone else because she seems to know best, but maybe that's just a mask she wears, I believe there could be some form of reference to her hiding who she really is though.
It's like the guardian now is just the centre of a plan that has been slowly unfolding since the beginning of d1 even if they didn't want it. I guess that means our guardian (obviously) has to be the one to enter ourselves before we can let in the vanguard
Not gonna lie I don’t understand why the traveler just doesn’t let us in to help it. Unless it can’t because of what Osiris is explaining. Also Mara sov armor when? The galaxy pattern on her armor is always cool to see wish we had the same armor.
"It is likely the Traveller is currently to busy fighting off the Witness to help us, assuming it could even form a connection with the Veil in the first place"- My Warlock
honestly I don't think Bungie has the actual reason planned out or Osiris's technobabble would be less opaque. They have some vague notions of how consciousness can influence the Veil to do stuff, and Osiris's stated reason as to why we can't just use it to get in is because thoughts shift too easily, moment to moment, and that would change the destination to whatever errant thought you were having at the time. The trouble with that is that even some unnamed Techeun should have a disciplined enough mind to render that a non-issue. Hopefully that's just not the whole picture.
Ngl these pre-Final Shape seasons (Witch and Wish) have been awesome narratively, and the gameplay has been pretty solid too. I don’t wanna hold my breath for The Final Shape buuuuuuuuuut
From what I know Riven can choose to not grant the wish if if she so choose, she did at the beginning of the season. We needed to make sure the Witness doesn't get it's own wish dragon regardless.
What I don't understand... Why do get to see a whole army infront of the Traveler and in the Traveler in the TFS Trailer? Does this mean flying through the veil is giving our "essence" or "footprint" to the veil so others can fly through?
9:30 Mara really went and made a reference to Parasite HAHAHAHA a cage for a worm that's most likely starving right now, forgotten in our vaults. Anyways, I think Riven may actually twist the wish in the end too. To make a path for the "Guardian". Not the players themselves, but for every entity who owns the designation of a Guardian.
Hmmm so I guess we send in Ikora based on the final shape cutscene and somehow we get in?…. Something is off with the logic. Also happy to finally see Osiris wielding strand. Definitely is a plot point that pays off as light fall was so long ago 😅 also wonder if he is able to master it, if maybe we might see a series of dark guardians or guardians who lost their ghosts that will then come to understand both stasis and strand without falling to evil.
Damn, Zavala (May Lance rest in peace) threatened to turn Caitil into a gun, and Mara threatened to turn Riven into a gun... Again. What is it with upper Guardian leadership trying to keep us fueled with weapons made from the bones of our enemies? Do they *know* about our bloodlust for a perfect 5/5 roll?
Unrelated to the video. Is there any lore on star cats? Are they the same as star horse or different? I think star horse is one of the nine (not sure) so could the star cats be one of the nine that's just split all over the place
What if we use the powers of the darkness to morph everyone we need into one being, just like the witness did with it's civilisation? That way we count as one being, and we can all go through the portal.
It’s said that all of these lines of dialogue are through a damn radio transmission. Bungie couldn’t even take the time to animate a cutscene for such important details? The level of storytelling has definitely dropped since leaving Microsoft and firing all of the original founders and pioneers.
I stopped playing destiny a while ago because i got tired of having to pay $100 every year to get all the story for that year. Was afraid I might be missing out. Glad to know the only thing I've missed is more recycled "enemies become allies" storyline. Destiny has less consistent writing than the fast and furious franchise.
This is making me hate both mara and petra, they deserve getting the dreaming city cursed for wiping out the ahamkara, and I don't feel sorry for the guardians either for wiping out the ahamkara, they think there heroes but there a nothing but murderers.😡
Love how Mara just threatened riven by basically telling her to do her job or else she'd be turned into a gun
Not only that but to collect dust in our vault too
Ikr 😂😂😂😂
Riven guna end up getting reviewed by datto in someones vault
Didn't she already get turned into a gun? That's what 1K Voices was, right?
Again
Mara threatening Riven with the ole “the Guardian will turn you into a gun” thing is so meta and i fucking love it. This and the [joke] dialogue from Crow about the head of a Vex Gatelord just make this my favorite seasonal story from this year. Great writing and call backs.
Big thing in my opinion is that even though the writing is great at times, the seasonal model of delivering only bits of story a week kind of weakens the story as well.
@@urazz7739Yeah, I don't like how even with all of Rivens lair in the coil you go to there is still the same three pathways each week.
Love how effortlessly she got out of Osiris strand he almost lost his balance
The old man must take a rest
To be fair, Osiris isn't nearly as strong as he used to be. Both losing his Light and Savathun's possession of him definitely weakened him a big deal. He's just now starting to get back into combat shape again with using Strand it looks like.
"Hey Riven, watch this" *Proceeds to use Wish Ender to shoot the last egg for the taken sparrow*
That's a funny reference She literally threatened to turn her into a weapon for us to throw into our vault😂
And she know we will use it once
Well, we all know that having just One Thousand Voices from her isn't enough, of course we want more.
@@CasualCrow-h8d 2 Thousands voices is not enough for Master Rahool
That caught me off guard, I forgot Osiris has Strand now.
ikr, I didn't know we could use strand like that
I read that as "I forgot he has a Stand" as in JJBA 💀😭
@@KingKaiju_76 he does have a big punch guy looming over him all the time tbh
They reminded us in a holoprojector message that the awoken know he could use strand so it makes sense in the long run that it was him that stopped him
WHAAAAAT?! THE GUY WHO TAUGHT US IN THE CRINGY MONTAGE HAS STRAND?! 🤪
Why is Osiris using strand with sunbracers on ? Bro needs to get necrotic grips
Sunbracers is his iconic look he might change his look eventually
Can't, the guardian has it, and most exotics are one of a kind.
He needed to stop her not flay the skin from her bones lol
plus they're not even standard sunbracers, if you look at cutscenes they're white like vex technology instead of orange
@@xXx_Regulus_xXx It's an ornament, we can also have it
She said "Riven, you piss me off, you will NEVER be meta".
I never thought I would even almost feel even a little sympathy for Riven.
I want to save her clutch and wish her back to life so I can ring her neck 😂
Ahamkara are but prisoners of their own design. They cannot help it and taranis is the outlier
Rivers wail was such a powerful line, really woke me up, this scene was so rich compared to the usual chats we get.
9:25 "lest I shape you into a trinket of caged hunger to be forgotten in the Guardian's vault" - my Queen you have certainly piqued my interest now _salivates at the thought of a wishdragon gun_ 😂🤣
Mara threatening to turn Riven into a bad exotic that sits in our fault was so meta lmao
9:26anybody else thought that was a reference to the amount of guns we own in our vaults or gods we have turned into literal guns?
Idk but it's funny af
I don't even have the space in my vault if she did do it 😥
During witch queen we turned a worm god into a gun with Mara. So I think it’s a reference to that
I love that Mara just sat there and listened to Osiris, KNOWING she could break free at any time.
It shows how much self control she really has. To stop and listen even during such a scene.
Yes but she also knew he was right and she was giving into anger. Also had she attacked Osiris we are standing right there and are far, far more dangerous then Osiris. She doesn’t want to risk a direct conflict with someone who collects corpses or gods in their loot pile
Osiris and Maras’ relationship is unexpectedly respectful from both parties and getting little lore tidbits in the last dialog was really cool.
Riven really said "MY BABBY MY BABBY NOOOO!!😅
So we need someone who has experience with the lay lines to be sent with the wish to open the way. I definitely see Mara or even crow to make the sacrifice. They both know how they operate Petra does as well but I don’t see her sacrificing herself.
Odds are it'll be Crow or Mara.
Even ignoring their knowledge of the lay lines it has been established that they share a connection that pull each towards one a other. Even beyond dimensions. If our original path proves to not be as stable as we hope, then that connection between brother and sister could act as a backup form of navigation.
If I had to place money I'd say Crow would be the one to go. Most because we know Cayde will be there, and Crow "wished" for a chance to apologize.
It’ll be Crow because Crow and Mara have a strong connection. Crow will go in and Mara will use their strong bond to find him and create a safe passage for All Guardians. How I came to this conclusion? It’s pretty easy if you pay attention to the story
@@josueurias7805you definitely listened to the datamined audio
I kinda feel like it be cayde
Or it's the beginning quest mission for us to open the door.
Wait so the witness literally just “parry this you filthy casual” to the traveller………
Kinda I guess. It kinda seems like the traveler shot out it's door and the witness was able to use that fact it needed to open the door slightly to shoot out to force it's way in
@@glitchyfox8706 oh I see. Interesting.
Poor arhamkara she sounded so hurt and broke down when she heard her egg was taken
This is her last clutch of eggs, we destroyed the others. And it being taken is akin to a baby in the womb getting a disease before it's even born.
Shes a mother....i will have loyalty to Riven because she cares
I mean, she's a mother, she might be a literal monster, but she's still a mother..
@@thelostcompass1320 shes not just a mother but the last 'living' member of her kind too.
@@termlesscipher8045 Half life lol
Imagine getting threatened to be turned into a weapon/armour and then dumped in the vault never to come out again lol
Into the vault O weapon of mine lol
The fact that Osiris used Strand was just....unbelievable..
One dont need the light to weild the darkness powers~ Though I thought his control was like SUPER limited without the light. Seems even lightless can use stasis or strand with training
Well Stasis and Strand are psychic/conceptual manifestations of Darkness. Powers that aren’t tied to the light which are based on the light. Darkness is merely psychic and anyone with paracasual knowledge or understanding can grasp or manipulate these dark powers
im really enjoying how much Riven has warmed up to us and opening up more and more.
She's a single mother. This is how they get you.
@@syllawblood well technically not single
Osiris is my fave, so I freaked the fuck out when he had his little moment, fucking amazing 🎉🎉🎉
I'm surprised she didn't have some spicy words for him lol
@@majesticmajestic7058 I'm fairly certain they both have some sort of… almost platonic relationship going on? At least I do know Osiris and Mara have worked together before so that's likely one reason Mara didn't get angry with him? Because they have a sort of trust?? I don't know though lol
@@dudehello2903 Her poster usually gives off the vibe of being better than everyone else because she seems to know best, but maybe that's just a mask she wears, I believe there could be some form of reference to her hiding who she really is though.
9:31 She knows us too well. XD
It's like the guardian now is just the centre of a plan that has been slowly unfolding since the beginning of d1 even if they didn't want it. I guess that means our guardian (obviously) has to be the one to enter ourselves before we can let in the vanguard
I think it will be crow because of his and Mara's connection.
Maybe your best yet. This week's story has hooked me all over again.
Not gonna lie I don’t understand why the traveler just doesn’t let us in to help it. Unless it can’t because of what Osiris is explaining. Also Mara sov armor when? The galaxy pattern on her armor is always cool to see wish we had the same armor.
"It is likely the Traveller is currently to busy fighting off the Witness to help us, assuming it could even form a connection with the Veil in the first place"- My Warlock
Seven Sisters shader exists....
@@seymourbutts5941 I know but why need a shader when the armor already has it. By default. Then you can add a shader for diff galaxy colors.
We kind of do have a version of her armor, for the Hunter class though.
honestly I don't think Bungie has the actual reason planned out or Osiris's technobabble would be less opaque. They have some vague notions of how consciousness can influence the Veil to do stuff, and Osiris's stated reason as to why we can't just use it to get in is because thoughts shift too easily, moment to moment, and that would change the destination to whatever errant thought you were having at the time. The trouble with that is that even some unnamed Techeun should have a disciplined enough mind to render that a non-issue. Hopefully that's just not the whole picture.
I think the "Into the Light" dlc is gonna be us actually getting into the Traveler, and open the portal for everyone leading into Final Shape
Sounds familiar dont it? Almost like how we did that in Taken King.
@@thomasallen9974 We do lead the charge quite a bit yeah
Ngl these pre-Final Shape seasons (Witch and Wish) have been awesome narratively, and the gameplay has been pretty solid too. I don’t wanna hold my breath for The Final Shape buuuuuuuuuut
The reference to our messy vaults 😂
I forget osiris might not have the light anymore but the darkness he does have strand and stasis he still has power just no revive
1 phase solo master lol
So the witness is so strong, not even wishes or fate can change the course it is taking, thats crazy💀
9:33 A thousand voices 2: Spirit boogalo
Our bargain was to get all of the eggs, not to guarantee that all would be in perfect shape. Their bargains are unfair, why shouldn’t ours be too.
From what I know Riven can choose to not grant the wish if if she so choose, she did at the beginning of the season. We needed to make sure the Witness doesn't get it's own wish dragon regardless.
We’re going inside the traveler with this one 🔥🔥🔥
We're turning the witness into a weapon with this one🔥🔥🔥
im pretty sure that one person will be ikora considering the trailer
It'll be you (the player). Lol they want us (the player) to save the day.
Are we going to ignore how osiris is weilding strand with Sunbracers.Damn Drip before Usability
So that’s a one way to use Strand 😈 lol
What I don't understand... Why do get to see a whole army infront of the Traveler and in the Traveler in the TFS Trailer? Does this mean flying through the veil is giving our "essence" or "footprint" to the veil so others can fly through?
I love this queen she have my heart and service 😂❤
The hugest plot twist is that GODDAMN CAT IS NOT IN THE CELL OF SYCOPHANT.
9:30 Mara really went and made a reference to Parasite HAHAHAHA a cage for a worm that's most likely starving right now, forgotten in our vaults. Anyways, I think Riven may actually twist the wish in the end too. To make a path for the "Guardian". Not the players themselves, but for every entity who owns the designation of a Guardian.
If we can save the Techeuns in the last wish raid, can we not cleanse the eggs?
Yeah that's basically what they did lol
Ok so am I the only one that saw the corrupted egg and immediately tried to shoot it with wish ender?
I'm guessing we send ikora through and she finds a way to bring us? Since they showed us a clip of her and cayde talking inside the traveler???
When I saw Mara threaten Riven, I was like, "Yoooooo, chick fight"
Lmao Mara threatened Riven to make her into another weapon for us lol
Nice to see Osiris having good voice acting for a change. 😎
Thanks for the hard work!
One person goes in and the vanguard sends in the cavalry once they open the way.. hold up, didn't the exact same scenario happen in the taken king?
Is this the first mention of the infinite forest since saint-14 returned to us or am I mistaken?
She’s upset about one taken egg? Bruh, there’s at least like 50 other ones scattered throughout the dreaming city 😬
😂 So Mara knows we leave weapons in the vault untouched?
That is some funny stuff.
Riven actin like she didnt shit out a morbillion taken eggs
Threatening to turn Riven into a non-meta weapon? Damn...that's cold.
Hmmm so I guess we send in Ikora based on the final shape cutscene and somehow we get in?…. Something is off with the logic. Also happy to finally see Osiris wielding strand. Definitely is a plot point that pays off as light fall was so long ago 😅 also wonder if he is able to master it, if maybe we might see a series of dark guardians or guardians who lost their ghosts that will then come to understand both stasis and strand without falling to evil.
The price is going to be crow
Or Mara
Jokes on Mara I already have a riven in my vault
This season it took a bit longer for the story to get going for me. Hope this is the start and not an early climax.
How do you complete the challenge in the ascendent realm?
I'm calling it now, first mission of the final shape, is a fuckin ley line quest
Damn, Zavala (May Lance rest in peace) threatened to turn Caitil into a gun, and Mara threatened to turn Riven into a gun... Again.
What is it with upper Guardian leadership trying to keep us fueled with weapons made from the bones of our enemies? Do they *know* about our bloodlust for a perfect 5/5 roll?
I completely forgot that Osiris can now use strand xD
What shader is on that ship!?
Unrelated to the video. Is there any lore on star cats? Are they the same as star horse or different? I think star horse is one of the nine (not sure) so could the star cats be one of the nine that's just split all over the place
The star horse is the paracausality made manifest it's more like the void of everything that seeps through all realities the horse is beyond the nine
@@virusklaxsosaur4054 AHH I see
Osiris is such a scrub! He uses strand but still have sunbracers equipped!
Mara was finna make us a new weapon out of riven thats why shes my favorite besides cayde
Has Mara always had a cat
Couldnt a Guardian Wish to Revive Riven ? or any Ahamkara in general ?
Wow so we know how to get in
Okay now let’s wait 150 days
Is anyone else still stuck on Starcrossed?
If the boss fight is where youre struggle, I just shot the boss from outside the room with Wishender
So the one person will be ikora?
Wait so can literally anyone tap into darkness powers with enough practice?
so if the traveler can invite someone or open a door. why does it not just open itself to us so we can protect it???
It’s sort of in a coma at the moment because of the Witness is my personal theory
What if we use the powers of the darkness to morph everyone we need into one being, just like the witness did with it's civilisation? That way we count as one being, and we can all go through the portal.
Did you watch the whole video lol
@@bowtieenthusiast6672 oh they are sending ikora through, not as cool :(
Ah, and the one we send is Ikora?
A New Taken King?
So basically, the plan now is we send a Guardian through the window of the Traveler so they can go unlock the front door for the rest of us.
Can we turn Riven into a catalyst for 1k?😂😂😂😂😂
We have to send Saint XIV
Crow will go to pprtal
Whoa
Does not take you to the location
i cant get over the horrible character shadows 8:10 , this game engine is beyond outdated and patched up with tape
Just parry bro 😂
It’s said that all of these lines of dialogue are through a damn radio transmission. Bungie couldn’t even take the time to animate a cutscene for such important details? The level of storytelling has definitely dropped since leaving Microsoft and firing all of the original founders and pioneers.
To think storytelling is equivalent to cutscenes. Smh
Using strand with Sunbracers? Osiris is such a dumb person
I stopped playing destiny a while ago because i got tired of having to pay $100 every year to get all the story for that year. Was afraid I might be missing out. Glad to know the only thing I've missed is more recycled "enemies become allies" storyline. Destiny has less consistent writing than the fast and furious franchise.
Dstiny storyline becomes more and more bullshit as it goes on.
Oh NOW we're getting somewhere... Still not buying TFS 😂
You do you bud
😂😂😂😂
@@josueurias7805 likewise broski
Same
With the depth of the common gamers variety in games I'm sure you'll buy if after the initial pissing and moaning
To bad bungie cant plot twist their game into something worth playing!
Dude this story blows 😢 I’ve played destiny since the alpha and I’m here until 5e end but it’s so obvious how they just don’t care anymore.
This is a very disappointing season, not going to lie.
People who play destiny are never satisfied and whine about it but still play it when the next season comes around@@xachisonfire1
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This is making me hate both mara and petra, they deserve getting the dreaming city cursed for wiping out the ahamkara, and I don't feel sorry for the guardians either for wiping out the ahamkara, they think there heroes but there a nothing but murderers.😡
Ahamkara are not good things Mara can literally wipe out ahamkara alone she is way too powerful at this point 💀💀