Beach Boys ~ She Knows Me Too Well: Production analysis/walkthrough
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- Опубликовано: 25 янв 2025
- This is about as simple as a Brian Wilson production got for many years during the peak of his creativity. And while it is a very simple, minimal production, I love the self-contained unit of just the Boys (and writing friend Russ Titelman on mic-stand percussion.). There is something pure and honest about these productions.
This is not a squeaky clean production, it's very noisy and hissy, with the instruments driven hard by the classic Bill Putnam preamps, and unusually for this time, some instruments heavily compressed. It makes for a hard-hitting mono track, a sort of punk wall-of-sound. Quite a contrast from the major production coming up next, "In the Back of My Mind".
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I’ve been a Brian Wilson nut for 6-7 years, and I’ve *just* discovered your channel. This is amazing content.
You are a hero
These videos have been very informative! It’s quite amazing hearing all of the layers that went into each of these songs!
Thanks for this post. What equipment do you use?
Great as always Joshilyn. I've always thought the minimal tracking on this really highlighted the complex vocal work, much as Smiley Smile did a few years later. His minimalist approach vs the full blown productions are to me like the Branderburgs vs the Well Tempered Clavier. Both approaches give an insight into an astonishing musical mind. Thanks again for taking the time to do these videos. They have been most welcome during the lockdown.
Thank you so much for this, Joshilyn. You have an incredible ear for such subtle technical things. Hope to hear from you again soon.
You're welcome!
This is really great! Goosebumps! Thank you very much!!!
Great job! As a superfan I appreciate these a ton
Another super fun recreation
A lot of bouncing down no doubt on a ton of Beach Boys mixes. They got so muddy as time went on, and creativity soared. Us Beach Boys fans need all these albums re-released and sounding beautiful.
Great video!
Carl indeed did go DI, the strings on the guitar sound clean. You can hear all the nuances in it. It reminds me of the clean six string sound he would get on Then I Kissed Her.
Great video! After watching your video it got me thinking that maybe Brian was trying to produce the track like he did Don’t Worry Baby, since he has such great success with that. Both songs are ballads, but played about as fast as you could and still call it a ballad. The choruses have the pretty falsetto melody, the background stack, and the slightly rhythmically different bass line, and all parts sing the words and not oohs and aahs. To me, Dennis did not keep good time. I know some people love his drumming...but at least in 64/65, it’s, well, pretty bad. I was thinking about that because you sequenced the snare fill and didn’t rush it. (Unlike Dennis) :) I can’t wait for In The Back of My Mind. I just love the way Brian hides “treasures” in the horn/string parts. Makes me so thankful for the bootlegs :)
The Raspberries lifted this chorus melody for part of their own song, "I can remember".
Since I try to accurately record Beach Boys songs on my channel, I enjoy watching your videos. One thing that I would suggest is that you first play your entire version of a song, and then go back and describe what you've done, and why.
Interesting thought. Explain your rationale, if you don't mind?
@@joshilynhoisington There are a couple of reasons. The main one is that hearing the whole thing first helps determine whether it's worthwhile to go back through the whole thing in detail.
I feel the same thing about instructional guitar videos. I like to see how the player plays the whole song before watching them go through the process of teaching it.
@@jlforrest Thanks. I'll consider it!
These vids are ALWAYS worthwhile IMO.
Which DAW are you using?
It's Logic Pro X
@@joshilynhoisington I had a hunch when I saw your Apple laptop
damn youre awesome. where are you based?
The guitar doesn't really sound like DI to me since you can hear the strumming pretty loudly, but then again what do I know about playing the guitar? haha Just my observation. Anyway, this was another great video. I think I'll upload a remastered instrumental mix of this so everyone can hear the original track.
Carl is in the booth. He went direct 95% of the time.
@@joshilynhoisington Ah okay. I can play drums so I understand them but I don't know much about playing other instruments. Thank you for enlightening me.
What plugin did you use to get the western studio recorded drums? What's it exactly called? Could you send a link?
Could you link to all the plugins you used for this? This has literally been my dream to know how to get that Pet Sounds sound and others from Brian.
@@AudioPortalAudiobooks Well, keep watching! The Western Drums are from EastWest's Play drums. And I use EastWest's reverb plugins (which are sort of quirky...) for their models of the Western chambers and rooms. I use the Universal Audio UA 610-A preamps on pretty much every input, and I often use Amplitube 4 and 5 for guitar stuff. I plan to do a much more detailed rundown of my recording and mixing process pretty soon.
@@joshilynhoisington Thank you so much! You literally have the best videos i've ever seen like they sound exact! People would be blown away if more saw this... So that's most of the things you use to get the Beach Boys sound? That's all I really want to be able to do. It would be amazing if you could make a "How to get the Beach Boys sound" video. Would be my favorite video of all time literally this is amazing. I always wished I was around back in the day when Western was up and running. These sounds are so much better to me than modern music.
Do you think using the UA 610 alone will still give a beach boy sound if I play around with it in the right way? Or are the other plugins necessary? Thanks again
@@AudioPortalAudiobooks I would say that it's less any one plug-in as it is a cumulative effect of lots of different factors. Every step in the chain has to be considered and dealt with in the right way. It's much more about using the right thing at the right point than the specific plug in. So if you think of one instrument on a track, say an electric guitar plugged into an amp, you have to consider all of the following points in the electronic signal chain. So, are the pick-ups on the guitar the right pickups? Are you using the right amp or the right amp simulator? If you're using the right amp simulator, do you know how to gain stage it and set it up to sound right? Then, that input goes into a mic that goes into the board, so you put the UA 610-A or some other tube amp emulator in then. Western's boards in 1965-66 were three track, so there were three busses and three reverb send busses--each of those would have some kind of circuitry driving them, so you'd want a buss emulator on those, or even another UA 610. If there was EQ or compression (which often there wasn't) you'd add it after the buss stage. Then it hit tape--so you might put a tape emulator in the signal at that point. But let's not forget, the guitar amp was in a studio live room, and other mics would have picked up some bleed from that speaker, and likewise, the guitar amp's mic would have picked up other instruments. So you'll need a series of room emulations as well.
I promise I will go over it all in a forthcoming video.
Was the Wrecking Crew a part of this recording, or is it 100% Beach Boys? 😊
All Beach Boys on this one. Plus Russ Titelman.
@@joshilynhoisington Thanks!