Favors between prosecutors and defense attorneys whats the truth?
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- Опубликовано: 26 авг 2020
- One of our subscribers asked me to discuss the relationship between criminal defense attorneys and prosecution and what favors are done. I decided to discuss the issue. This is off the cuff while I am driving to the law office. No scripts. It's important so when a bottom feeder defense attorney, the car salesman without ethics, claims to have juice ( a friendship ) with the prosecutor you know the deal. How often have you heard an attorney claim to be friends with prosecutor or judge? Unfortunately, too often. I was once in a courtroom and the judge asked did anyone promise you anything other than what is in the plea paperwork and the client/defendant said yes! My attorney said his father is the chief judge and that you will hook it up or hook me up. It was a marvelous moment that a shit attorney got called out on record and a sad moment for the profession because there are no promises or guarantees. There are a lot of great attorneys with ethics and there are non-ethical do$%&bags that give the profession a bad name. I hope the video sheds some truth on the real relationship between the parties. Thank you for watching and please subscribe and share.
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I wonder how many prosecutors will watch this video?
a good lawyer will win you a case, but a great lawyer knows the judge
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A good lawyer knows the law, a great lawyer knows the judge
Just find the lawyers government coke deal is.
Great perspective, and how true.
Knows the judge as in personally or behaviourally?
Thank you for being an honest criminal defense attorney and letting us know how corrupt the criminal justice system is
How corrupt? The falsification of transcripts in felony cases to conceal crimes against due process also denies meaningful appeal to defendants already wronged. Consider the deeper meaning of this practice.
@@dennishickey7194 give an example
@@dennishickey7194 Incredibly corrupt. Falsified narratives, falsification of transcripts, missing "interview footage". Lot's of people involved to make those happen so lots of people breaking the law in order to "enforce the law"
What could we do with corrupt judges? Call the fed or attorney general ?
@@dennishickey7194 so corrupt that almost a century later their has been NO justice for the Emmitt Till family. All of the white individuals and families that played a part in the cover up never went to jail or prison but instead made profits and investments of the killing.
Theirs nothing more deeper then what it is. Either your right or your wrong. Either you’re innocent or guilty. Theirs no other way to slice it. When judicial servants and mediators try to persuade you to plea or criminalize you when you’re clearly innocent that is corruption! Anytime a private attorney bribes a judge that’s corruption! Anytime a judge uses unreasonable tactics to get a citizen to fail that’s corruption.
I know a former states attorney's office employee (the prosecution). They told me face to face...their job, their goal was to get "A CONVICTION, and not necessarily a conviction of the actual guilty party. He went on to explain that IF they thought they had enough evidence to prosecute 'person A', but not enough to prosecute 'person B' that they would go after 'person A' even if they knew that 'person B' was the guilty party. "In our business, its all about the conviction. We need a conviction to pacify the victim's family, and the public".
This is the truth…. This is what’s happening to my 21 year old son right now… They know who did it, but my son was an easier target… All to pacify the devilish family that knows what really happened
@@msbrownchica Sorry to hear this.
I’m really surprised that so many think that our justice system is pure. Everything else in this world is courrupt, hence our leagal system.
I was 17 and my older brother by 14 years was taking advantage of my mother…so I called him out. He ended up assaulting me and my mom called the police on HIM. Well we were both arrested for (family violence). This charge in my state gives the state the ability to pursue charges against you. So I bonded out and was given a court date…I did not hire an attorney because I felt like when I had my day in court I could explain what happened and how I had been the one who was assaulted and wrongfully arrested…nope! My name is called and this little worm of a prosecutor won’t even let me speak…he just keeps repeating " 3 years probation plus court costs…that’s what I can offer you" I finally got shitty with him and said I’d never except that as I hadn’t done anything wrong. He said fine…we can set you up for a trial what kind would you like? Judge or jury? I said perfect I’ll take one by jury…all of a sudden he becomes mister chatty Kathy, tells me all about how long it’s going to take to get a date and I’ll have to live with this looming over me and that I should take the previous deal he offered.
I told him I wanted my trial by jury and he could go fuck himself…in front of two sheriffs deputies…either they heard what I was saying and felt for me or they didn’t like this guy because they didn’t do anything…and it’s not like they didn’t hear exactly what I said.
Well he gave me my paperwork and sent me to the lady who you turn that stuff into…walks about 10 feet away from me to another person and says the exact same thing to them…"this is what I can offer you" I walked out of that court house so angry that when I sat down in my car with my mom…I sat there screaming at my the top of my lungs. Couldn’t believe what was happening to me…well I guess they weren’t confident in their case against me because a week later I received a letter in the mail telling me the case against me by the state of Texas had been dismissed. I was happy as could be but three years later when I was applying for a job it popped up on my criminal background check! Said that I had been charged but with zero convictions.
So that led me down a rabbit whole of money and a million miles of red tape to get the charge expunged. They told me not to worry, that when I turned 21 it would be wiped from my permanent record…well it wasn’t. I had to spend so much money and time to get this ridiculous false charge off my criminal record…I’ve never been able to look at our justice system the same way again…I found out later on from one of my college counselors that I was lucky to have been excepted into school with that on my background…I have no idea how true that is…but I do know it being there cost me an employment opportunity.
I understand your frustration. Luckily I am old, so I can fade away if I get my situation for alleged misdemeanor with heavy consequences out of the way. There is no justice.
The "justice" system is a joke and should be renamed to the penal system.
I'm in my 30s and facing a felony domestic assault charge that my wife accused me of. She is not telling the truth of the situation. The people that know both her and I don't believe her. The people that only know her are propping her up and praising her as a victim and if this goes to trial I will have a mixed bag of these types of people judging me. I'm fighting for my life and having to trust a defense attorney where I can't tell if he's fighting for me or just towing the professional line.
On the same note, I feel my wife has a personality disorder that has led to this. She has been accusing me of absolutely ridiculous things all year where the facts don't meet her truth. She needs help, and before all of this went down, I tried to encourage her to get psychological treatment but she wouldn't do it. I'm exhausted with this process.
@@fastrivers812 man brotha best of luck…I had a similar situation where I had gotten married to a horrible woman…she made life absolutely miserable for 5 years and was incredibly physically abusive, as she knew I wouldn’t take the bait and hit her back.
Best thing I can tell you is to get the hell away from her.
There is no justice in the justice system period these DAs judges and lawyers fail to realize they are prosecuting human beings its sickening
I loved your comments about trying to contact prosecutors and how they don’t respond! 😊lol. I had the same experience! I practiced criminal defense for 40 years in Florida. I’m retired now and I found your comments excellent in every way. You’ve got a sense of humor and personality that is suitable for criminal defense work! It’s is the hardest most challenging legal work in my opinion. I look forward to watching more of your videos! Quite enjoyable really! Keep it up!!
Thank you. I appreciate you following and your kind words.
Maybe in the city but in the country they all play golf together go to church together and bbq together
Back room deals ARE A THING
They're like kids at school. Just older and with snazzy clothes. Birthday parties . Christmas parties. Best believe everybody's buddy buddy.
I second that and I just want to say thank you for your time and honesty keep up the good work
I was arrested under warrant on a failure to appear charge. I had managed to avoid that arrest for several months. When I went to court, my court appointed attorney had changed. (Thank God for that.) He was a fairly new younger one and had a good rep for fighting for the client. The previous one is the senior public defender and that office is HIS show . And is jaded or ikd what but acts more like a prosecutor than a defense attorney, I swear to god.
Anyway, standing outside the courtroom door at 8 a.m., my public defender is in front of me to my left, the prosecutor in front of me to the right, I listen to them cut a deal in favor of me against against the future of someone else, unknown to either of them.
I don't remember what exactly was said but my defense had only minutes to review my case, as probably the prosecution also had only minutes to review it, being several months old.
So my guy sez blah blah blah. And their girl sez blah blah. And he sez blah. And she sez only if you give me blah on the next one, and he sez but blah, and she sez ok then blah and he sez ok.
And the doors swing open at the hands of the bailef, and we all walk in and sit sit down.
Then in comes his royal highness
All rise...
Things went a hell of a lot better than I expected.
Oh yeah. I am innocent of the original crime, but based on the absolutely zero effort to prove that by my court appointed senior public defender, I ended up pleading guilty in order to avoid a longer sentence which he felt I would be found guilty of anyway.
Three interesting side notes...
My public defender is on the board of directors for the place the crime took place. I'm no lawyer (obviously), but I would guess that is a clear conflict of interest.
The guy that actually did it had already been run through the mill and found guilty of a much lessor charge.
The local newspaper has a courts section and in it my case and name were listed as found guilty.
THE DAY BEFORE MY TRIAL BY JUDGE.
I did time for someone else's crime.
I did everything my defense recommended on the assurance I would do no time.
Due process is a dog and pony show. Your fate is decided by the judge, prosecution, and defense, over coffee days before the actual court date.
They aren't concerned with little details like evidence that would exonerate you if they bothered to collect it or review it.
Someone has to pay for the crime.
Regardless of your innocence.
This happened in Minnesota.
I think its awesome this guy is putting his spare time into educating the public on the behind the scenes goings on in the "legal' process.
At the same time, I also realize that by doing so, he is effectively doing free advertising to bring clients in to his law office.
Nothing wrong with that.
It shows he is a progressive thinker that is willing to go the extra mile for what he believes in.
That's a good thing.
As long as he believes in you.
Either way its billed by the hour.
It's easy to complain about the public defender, judge and prosecutor but WHAT DID YOU DO TO ASSIST your attorney? Remember, it is your case and your life. How bad do you want to prove your innocence? You either plea or you fight. It sounds like you took a plea. Judge asked if anyone forced or compelled you to take the deal right? What did you say? General comment so general answer but if you are listening or watching this channel and are innocent then GET UP and fight back. Set meetings with your attorney, discuss defenses, help your attorney. Do what they need. Help in your own defense.
Still a scumbag. Typical narcissist, always blaming someone else instead of owning up.
Foley . Respectfully man . I had to go through 4 attorneys because the previous 3 didn’t like that I wasn’t going to agree to a plea deal because I was innocent . I sent them so much info exonerating. Including a video of the alleged incident . That clearly showed there was no assault . They all told me take it to trial or plea . And abandoned my case .
The 4th lawyer 2 years later and 20 hearings was able to dismiss with prejudice : because the state said they lost exculpatory video . Basically the same video I already had that exonerated me .
This lawyer knew the judge !!!
It’s not always so black and white .
and when a corrupt DA knowingly prosecutes you falsely and an equally corrupt judge convicts you regardless, then you sit in jail till you can win on an appeal
Mr.Foley thank you for taking the time to make these videos and share your knowledge and experience . I am uneducated but I really like listening to you speak . Again thank you for your time.
Thank you. Do not sell yourself short. You determine your value. Some of the smartest people I have ever met did not have high school or college degree. Experience in life and a willingness to seek out information is education, probably the best education.
Lot of u fools like listening to professional lier
You can’t tell me that bribery doesn’t go on between the state, defense attorneys and the judge
Never can I say never but I have never seen it and if I did I would report it.
@@thelawofficesofrogerp.fole7886 thank you for your honesty.
Happens in Mendocino California all the time.
It's disgusting
@@thelawofficesofrogerp.fole7886more lies pro at lying lol system is compartmentalized hahaha stupid is the virus!
In my county this does happen and when you try to hire a lawyer from out of county the first thing that lawyers says is the Judge is a problem here and hard to win there. The public defender is paid by the county so getting an actual defense attorney that does their job for the client isn't happening. The Judge here goes easy on certain cases and beyond abuse of power on others. It's who you are , money and power flat out.
in Florda, Im always up for the challenge. All you can do is your best.
Money has nothing to do with it. It’s YOU. Every case I’ve had I went to the law library and learned what could and couldn’t be done. Informed my lawyer that I knew information about laws surrounding my case and I had several cases dismissed. They tend to do their job correctly if they know that you know the law also. I got myself out of prison with a Rule32 after being fukked in the court room. Study and research yourself. At the end of the day your freedom is more important to you than your lawyer. They are studying from the same books we have access to in a public law library. Everything you need to know is on Nexis….
@@theonlyjayp3781 Hello, Glad for you. It is easy for a strong man though, than when sick and never got the right health care, and they even break one down while one applies and fights for assistence in disability, when they withhold both info, oneäs rights and the actual help, and break one's helth /life ennergy/ psyche/ hope/will to live down over many years, by many officials and doctors. "The death by a 1000 needle stings". When being traumatized and sleep deprived form the start, one can't as a sensitive and dis-eased one with Aspergers be sturdy, self-assertive, nice and strong in whatever ways others like, since that needs treatment, trauma therapy, dental care, sleep, safety in one's own good home to build up and happen. When one gets deceived by everyone who is officially there to provide help, while they behave as though benevolent, and using what you say while far under the ice aha´gaist you, what to dió then? When organizing secret schemes, false doctors texts to get one in some institution without just cause, and making up fake diagnoses for the same rason, and having the police grab one and locking into psychiatry for no reason except, as I iúnderstoiod only when it was too late, to be able to write in douments that I have been locked in psychiatry! And what is even worse, I was prevented from sleeping and from taking muý necessary homeopathic medicines for seriosu disease and sleep! So they break me down on purpose, probably to eventually have rebånderd me too harmed and sick to manage.
I could only study ameriva¨can law online before the "court session", but can't remember due to sleep deprivation sickness-weakness.And the attorney wasfalse, not working fopr me.
And as I complained, he showed threatening behaviour. And I can't fight all these people without health, sleep, knowedge , support and with Aspergers, who aren't skilled at strategy anyway.I cn only function satisfactorily with calming people and situations, don'r manage being tested, questioned, not believed when being honest .
I know the law enough, but they just ignored and run me over. Probably easy to do when someone is this level of exhauste and sick,+ inexperienced socially,and lacking energy physically. I am hard-working, responsible and am said to have resources. But they aren't accessible, and I have beeen standing too alonely, and without the right kind of efficient counsel.
What helpful words might you have for me, please? Would you have the time and feel like coaching me? I sould be most grateful and glad! I can't tell all here, of course.
´Best greetings to you.
@@Medietos I’m not gonna read all that shyt
@@theonlyjayp3781 Thank you for your kindness and help I am sorry you don't have a toilet.I hope you get healthy soon.
This guy is a genius 👏 he will make a great lawyer teaching law amazing!
Okay, let's say defense attorneys and procecuters normally play fair. I'll bite. However, you made a strong point about judges wanting to appear to be tough on crime. So tough that there's been judges caught taking kick backs from the prison industry. 🤔
You’re right it’s a two way street. Respect needs to be mutual for a relationship to work.
My son is going through right now he had a court appointed lawyer and at first the public defender told me he felt my son was guilty until he receive more info on the case so he decided to take it to trial now he's no longer working for the public defender office
I’m terrified for my son. No previous criminal history. No drug use. Rarely drinks alcohol. He co sleeps with 2 yo son. Put the baby to sleep at 7:30pm, removed chain from door so sons mom could get in the house later and he fell asleep next to his son. His son woke up without him realizing it (he was asleep) and he wandered outside. Was thankfully found by a neighbor. Officers came in his house and woke him up and advised his son was outside! They are charging him with felony child abuse! I’m about to go broke paying for an attorney for my son. I won’t let him take a plea. There was no crime committed. It was an accident. I’m a 911 operator and you’d be shocked at how often this happens. I’m really loosing sleep over this. Any advice?
Why don't lawyers, prosecutors, and judges just follow the law just like everybody is obligated to do.
That sounds like corruption in the eyes of the law!
Mr. Foley, thank you for posting this video. Your opinion and experience as an Atty is very informative and Iearn a lot the difference between prosecutor and defense job.👍❤❤
Thank you for watching.
It's not the truth.
@@thelawofficesofrogerp.fole7886how much coke do u cost?
I like this guy's pleasant, and nice personality.
They play with your lives ...both sides
4:08 I appreciate your transparency.
You haven't worked in Madison or Jersey Counties in Illinois.
The state where ex-governors make our license plates.
In both these counties the corruption goes all the way to the top... the chief judge... personally doing favors for plaintiff attorneys.
In Madison County, I know of 1 false arrest that a judge went along with and another judge that was corrupt in a dog case.
In Jersey County, the judge went along with 4 set-up false arrests by the local police that I know of.
And the DA refused to make them right.
All are involved in a bomb threat and a murder for hire plot.
This is where a child was killed by police for carrying a Bible on a public sidewalk and they lied on their reports.
They are criminals.
So here's the thing, when 75% of the people use state sponsored attorney's aka public defenders like I just did, you get what you pay for. However in the the criminal justice system it's not just nothing you get, it's less than nothing. What I mean is, you basically get an attorney that is specifically working against you and for the prosecutor. This is exactly what just happened to me.
Luckily I demanded to see the evidence, she withheld it from me for 273 days, I decided to take it to trial, pro se. That prosecutor was removed.
Thank you for your advice it really helps I have a question for you I am recently dealing with a criminal case and my defense attorney that I hired happens to have a personal friendship with the district attorney now he did make me aware of it prior to me hiring him I guess my question is do you think there is a conflict of interest there?
Appreciate your honesty sir!
Where do u hear this honesty?
How can we expect the Nevada Legal Board to perform when presented with information about a public defense attorney withholding information and manufacturing disclosures.
You sound like a nice person, so no jabs or disrespect was intended. By plea I was referring to negotiating a plea agreement for your clients, thanks
what do you do when the judge, sheriff's office and DA are all sleaze bags totally lacking moral compasses and hell bent on teaching you a lesson for committing the Ultimate Crime of contempt of cop ?
Thank you for posting this. I have a question: Do you think that a prosecuting attorney hops the fence to the defense side to sincerely help the defendants, or is it financially motivated? Some say that the mindset of a prosecutor never changes because they chose to be prosecutors right out of the gate. Does something, or some case happen that opens their eyes to the notion that the justice system is slanted in favor of the prosecution, and one day they reach their limit sort of speak? Im not sayin' they're all bad, just seems they had an option, and they chose to prosecute.
Thanks
What a great question. I have talked about this many times but never put a video out. I think that generally, not all, prosecutors that switch sides have difficulties. There are things that they know. If its their prior office they can certainly get people on phone easier and not have to hunt for the prosecutor like I do. As a prosecutor, your job is too prosecute and the defense attorney's job to persuade you, the judge the jury etc of what is applicable and what is not. That goes for punishment. I often have offers of prison or jail that after extensive conversation is removed. Over time, perspective can change but if you were trained to think that x charge should be x punishment, its hard to get out of that mindset. I have seen former prosecutors turn into excellent defense attorneys too. Really great question. Oh and yes most likely do it for the money. :)
Aa a victim of a recent crime in my state, I’ve had to deal with a long winded delated case that’s been dragged out for 4.5 years… what i’ve seen happen to our criminal justice system, first hand in the past few years, has been absolutely unimaginable! (At least in the state where I live) It’s difficult for anyone to comprehend how drastic these changes have been. There is a massive overhaul in our justice system in the works right now. Judges and DAs across the board getting ousted if they don’t go along with the soft on crime agenda. They’re either being forced to resign or retire before their two year term ends. So they get replaced with unelected replacements to fill their seats. We are starting to see the effects of this before our eyes; massive increase in theft, violent crimes, homicides, assaults. It happening everywhere where there’s new bail reform… 4 years ago, there were approximately 30-40 cases heard in a session.. now they have two sessions with over 150 cases each for the same department. Do you really think all these offenders are all getting locked up?
The truly outrageous factor here just gets blipped over. I give you a thumbs up for pointing out judges mostly biased to be tough, not on actual crime, but on any poor schmuck to appear before them. And at 1:20 you say, almost in passing: "We've been in COVID now for what, three months, there's no trials." In my hometown the 18th District Court, and the 2d District Court in the Capital, and several others also used COVID as an excuse to suspend Trial by Jury. Meanwhile the lawyers, both for the defense and the prosecution continued to terrorize suspects into waiving their right to jury trials with the lie "it will be best for you to take this plea bargain" when it may be years before a jury can convene to clear them CLEAR with a "Not Guilty" 😂!
Add to that the long-standing tradition of law officers lying to us, and even reasserting the lies from the witness box, it is time we admitted to ourselves that Trial by Jury has been scuttled and that Rule of Law in the USA is a cruel joke.
Wait so prosecutor and defense lawyer talk to each other before the first court date to negotiate the deal???
Do you have any leads on the direction of how the wrongfully accused, can site motions, and rules, for summary judgments properly filling out motions of affirmative defense in simple assault and batteries? Is there any place I can go to so I can file motions?
Hire an attorney or use the public defender. Your Michael Jordan day in court is the shittiest lawyers average day.
Currently on a open case and my lawyer told me the prosecutor doesn’t want to go to trial, I’m so confused rn
Can you get a Public defender to get a charge drop the charges?
Thanks for this info bc I am just finishing up with my step daughters trial. It’s been very uncomfortable to see what looked like her attorney giving in to the prosecutor with severe charges. I don’t want to believe they are together and I want to believe her attorney gave it his all. I hope he did.
Hahaha what? Stupid is the virus
That's real talk 👍
I was literally just wondering/wanting to ask how egotistical are prosecutors. I literally tried parenting, while yes trying to bring things up from my childhood but doing so to discuss our kids childhood. Tried explaining this to the attorney I had and still being offered a plea deal.
Sooooooooooooooo @7:35 if the state pulled that on a PRIVATE defense attorney just imagine what that convo is like towards a public defender. Which makes sense why so many ppl share their horrible experience with PDs that refuse to look at exculpatory evidence or pushes the “your guilty” attitude without even looking at discovery towards their own client.
what if a person is really sick will this be taking into consideration?
Good way of sugarcoating corruption.
When I hear people use the word "corruption", I think distorted reality, except for politics. I have seen many things as a defense lawyer but corruption I've seen a hand full of times- not much. I usually see overcharged crimes, laziness, lack of evidence, witnesses and police that lie or exaggerate and defendants that sugarcoat ( lie) the same way police do. People are people good and bad in all aspects of society. I don't sugarcoat anything.
I have question... What happens if 1 jurisdiction(city & county)💬 uses an invalid warrant from another jurisdiction to arrest a defendant also adding more charges to secure a conviction? After it's brought to light by outside assistance isn't the jurisdiction that it supposedly came from obligated to rectify it by any legal recourse on the l jurisdiction that used the falsified warrant?How can this be considered legal just to save embarrassment for both jurisdiction when a person's life is at risk of imprisonment?
I had a similar situation several years ago. The defense attorney filed a motion to suppress or to quash the arrest based on the jurisdiction issue. The judge determines whether their argument holds weight.
Well i read elsewhere that public defenders first priority is to the state/court and their clients are secondary. You are a private attorney so maybe that wouldn't apply in your case.
Thanks for the video
What if the Due process has been violated! According to the fifth and fourteenth amendments its a law violation, so how should we pursue the prosecutor for doing this?!
Your attorney would file appropriate motions.
@@thelawofficesofrogerp.fole7886
So it is necessary to have a criminal Defense isn't it? Because the defendant has been fighting alone and the response is always delayed!!
Can we go faster with an attorney !?
Would a public defender be more in cahoots with the state (prosecutors and judges) than a private defense attorney?
Nobody is in cahoots.
Yes 100% a public defender would
My brother knows a defense attorney. Says the judges , attorneys and prosecutors go out for dinner . That’s a contradiction . I don’t know that there’s no fishy business
@@gerryhazelton9569 100% true. They all play golf together and share hookers lol. If you knew what goes on behind closed doors
It’s way always my understanding having been in jail a lot that public defender’s are the ones who make deals with prosecutors like I’ll give you these two people for this person type thing. That’s always been what people say within jail. No one in there ever says this about paid lawyers.
Bullcrap. I can tell you first hand experience that even a paid lawyer can be just as bad. I’m going through the system right now, and I have been overcharged for a crime that doesn’t even have any evidence for. I paid $7500 for one of the best lawyers in that town. He advised me for almost a year to take a plea deal, while knowing that the prosecutor’s case against me is very flimsy. Got a new lawyer and demanded a trial. The prosecutor ended up releasing a video of me being arrested as a way to discourage me from fighting the charge. It turns out that the prosecutor never had a real case against me and he knows it will never hold up in court
Tge day i was told the setna motion im California got dismissed i took a deep breath thats when my patience ran out.. The next court date they offered me a plea deal.. Im wat? All tge court had to do was to submit to tge dmv an error for and thats it... Just that.. I just wonder in my like what the hell is going on so i said nope.. Lets go on trial thats where i want to go i told the P.D nothing but your working with fhe judge and naw ... Sometimes i feel like my case its a movie but its disturbing like idk something odd in the air and with the people where did they came from...
What are the chances of withdrawing a no contest plea 15 years after entering?
No chance
@@thelawofficesofrogerp.fole7886
That was quick!!!!!
I just watched a video and wanted to know more about this, that's how I found this video.
A defendant plead guilty but then mentioned a "detail" that convinced the judge that the defendant was not guilty and told the public defenders that she didn't accept her guilty plea.
The same day, the same public defender appeared in front of the same judge with a different defendant who also plead guilty. This time, the judge looked at the case with a little more attention and again, she found something that proved the defendant was not guilty.
Do some public defenders convince their clients to plead guilty just because it makes it easier and faster for them or is there something more going on behind the scenes?
a district attorney is ALSO supposed to protect the citizen FROM gov't
My comment has nothing to do w/this video but I don't know who else to ask as I've exhausted googling to find the answer so if there's a criminal attorney who can please, please answer my question, here it is:
In the 2016 Colorado murder trial of Lester Jones in the 2007 death of Paige Bergfeld, Jones was found guilty of "first degree murder", "felony murder" and "second degree murder" (for knowingly causing her death and for kidnapping her).
My question is why would someone be convicted of both "first" & "second" degree murder of the same person. Thank you if anyone can answer my question. Thank you very much.
Wow I am dealing with the same issue I call it a failure to do process in a lot of ways I am currently being ordered by a judge to sign a frivolous agreement meaning the agreement has nonfactual actually false statements in it in facts.
How many MORE ''Back Scratch'' deals would that prosecutor have offered you if you has said yes back in 2010?
So why aren’t prosecutors getting time for the lives they are destroying?
My sister hired an attorney that his father is a Texas Fedral Judge. We filed several grievances against the attorney for gross .is conduct with the Texas State Bar. The Texas State Bar would not assist us because the Federal Judge had alot to do with it.
sorry to hear that. lots of shit people in the world and attys too
That's a bit scary Mr.Attorney.I'm almost 75 years old and I pray and hope my Attorney can get me off if ever I have to shoot some one in self defense.We have great gun insurance for such an occasion or if someone breaks into our house.
Well I guess we're kind of lucky, or kind of unique in our judicial district because it represents Three counties. So we have the three judges - one for each county, and it's would seem that we have a judge that is totally neutral, a judge that is pro state, and another judge that is a champion for the Bill of Rights and a bit more progressive than the other ones. He represents my county which is the district seat, so maybe he is a champion for the Bill of Rights because he witnesses first hand how much of a good ole boy network this judicial district can be at times. With that being said, I was a member of the gallery of the court of the state favoring judge and before the next case was called to order the judge asked the prosecution and defense attorneys to approach. Now mind your the courtroom was empty save the individuals previously mentioned and myself. There was an issue about regarding the defendant in the next case and I guess this was the public defender's first opportunity discussing this aspect of their client's case. I don't know if they were going to argue a motion or challenge a motion, but it had something to do with the benefit of the accused. I literally heard the words coming from the ADA's mouth in front of the judge saying "if you give
What about judges and prosecutor favors ?
Can’t speak to that. Hopefully not but forner prosecutors turned judges often favor state.
Hey Man I have a question but please do not read into my question further than face value. I'm hearing your language either a position to not get too personally involved when a client is unjustly entered into the system. Which I can understand. Am I reading you correctly because if not that what is the purpose of not saying what it is? I ask because, i was sent to prison after 2yrs of my wife lying as her family and prosecutors tag team and the state holding my son "hostage" to pressure me that I cannot wrap my head around to this day the total lack of treatment as if I'm not a human being. The more evidence I was able to submit and raising my bail even when the story of the latest lie written and a copy provided with the date [the judge raised my bail. Even though I'm injured and was the victim[no I'm not a victim any longer than is needed but I'm instead shackled to the role as a perp and bail increase unrecoverable even though I had probably the #1 alibi a person can dream of. I was in jail and served 4 months...in the same county. Honestly the only crime only record I ever committed. 100% but being innocent after a false arrest. Cops caught lying in prelim and many more exhibits that build a solid wall that I'm likely...and I cant even convey this properly. Sorry for this long story...I'm still being dragged along as new laws about my status and it's getting me assaulted by cops and detained by TSA 3 times out of 3 trips . The last one in may..7 TSA guys going ballistic and intimidating me for asking questions. The ruling that covers my status says I'm not supposed to be detained and searched every time. I dont how you do it but those prosecutors they are criminals. Thugs really. I cant imagine a more corrupted position that should be under the scope so the Tyranny is minimized down to simple flaws in everyone but..to not see how they destroyed my world. My only son kidnapped with state and Family court in the end so bold sent my attorney back with. They basically see mow I'm the victim as they dont bother to recognize what they did to my son givi g him right over to his mom..the actual peratratir abuser. Telling me..its Family courts version that was wrong but since they cant be bothered to even admit anything and even give me the max on 3. 6. Or 8 which was just stacked up and bot even evidence to support . They said sorry...you just have to go to prison. The child abuser gets off..gets custody and since 2005 has been teaching him to hate me. I dont even know what he looks like and called me at 22yrs old obviously not his fault. Kids cant stand up to that type of abuse. He cant even tell me why..he he just demands I move on. I dont deserve to even be called a dad.he was being directed word for word by his mom. I know her language. He was using chick break up language lol then hung up and the 2 disappeared. Moved. Gone.i dont know how to cope with this...I moved on a far as I can. I survived war and prison and being abused by.parole after I pass a mandatory polygraph that supports my wild claim of innocent. If I were not mentally tough and a person who has decided to increase my ethical ideals and live by word now that as a younger man unable to fully grasp..I would have ended my life by now. I hung on for my son now I have lost again and yet...there is no win. Only hope that by telling the truth will do so.ething. but no onr.can understand or see with any clarity I'm not even exaggerating. I'm actually minimizing . The parole agent who flys from the east coast every few months and administered the polygraph tells me ...ok. I believe you now ... which you would not need that to see through my case. 2 pare agents that later retire and one is promoted..had took one glance at me..after one short glance in my file. Visit me and both but seperate ask me why? Why is my wife not sitting in prison? That's easy. Feminism we are like fish who gave no concept of water...we swim in a world dominated by women fir women and us dumb men laugh when dudes get prison time, their dicks cut off by jealous women and then she is cheered on talk shows by hordes of these sick people gaining standing ovations. While guys and boys..our son moving toward the same fate..but cant even see or remember he used to trust me told me every day he loved me and watched finding Nemo so many times we both say every line but now it's like he is a zombie. It's the worst thing and I've seen alot. I'd rather see the shit o saw in iraq than see my son unable to think normally. Or even give me more than than a minute to offer him a way to verify my credibility. I asked for 1 hour and offered him my entire savings of 30k to keep and an additional 1k for each question his mom passed on a polygraph and the condition I fail sk there is less doubt. He blows off 30 k! Even if he was retarded I cannot see how that would not peak so.e interest or motivation for 1 hour visit. Instead just keeps insulting me. Which he will regret if or when he has the final aha moment but I'm dead already. He is going to not forgive himself if he is normal or can decelope the faculties necessary for developing empathy.
This is not a lloy for pity..I dont want pity or empty sorries that dont apply. I know answers are scarce and I couldnt know these inside truths that are sending other Americans and just men who are not 2 dimensional fictional players.were told their entire life all the safety guards of rights and you have the truth and confidently walk in and you discover quite quickly it's a total sham and then a knife slams into your ribcage like in THE Gladiator . They hide it and are perfectly hobbled with just no time to even comprehend what you did to deserve it. No air
Cant call for help. Family was all in when I was in news papers being called heros but when faces even.the possibilty of embarrassment or even to help me...instead they join in and these are not strangers. My sisters and a brother. I'm not mad because I just see their dysfunctional coping and sorta just feel that cant be normal and if family were like that during our evolution people would not survive. If your family would turn.on you like that
...its a dysfunction and at best cowardly of them.They know me and up 2002 spend holidays and nieces and nephews all close as I have ever known. Last my mom said she had to tell my sister that calling police on me and for what I have no clue..I got into an argument with my brother.but I did kind of spill a few skeletons that my sister has hidden lol..but still even threatening me with police and by family and for christ sakes . I guess these people were always weird ass pretenders to he humans? Yuck..its weird
WHO, in their right mind, would plead to ANYTHING when you KNOW you did NOTHING CRIMINAL ? Your ONLY crime is contempt of cop ?
Yes I do. I think you make deals with one person to make a better deal for another person just saying. But what I’m talking about would be better with a public defender or public pretender
As stated b4 judges have too much discretion over peoples lives, one person shouldn't have that kind of power, influence without having supervision, but that doesn't exist because people want to control other people's lives the way they c fit, that why man will destroy himself.
Well that is not what happened to me. My attorney wanted me to plead, lied to me all the way for 14 months, the preliminary hearing was continued 6 times, 2 of then by my attorney without my knowledge, not evidence was never presented, my attorney was trying to intimidate me telling me that I was ready to be indicted for like 30 charges, and that I was better off accepting one, and not evidence, just bluffing…. Just because the city had made a huge mistake, violating several rights. and everyone was trying to avoid consequences. Had to fired him! Now things are on the right direction. I had to involve the news and congress. Lawyers here were milking me out. You seen honest and doing the right thing, but can’t speak for everyone.
What if you suspect that your defense attorney manufactured witness statements and maybe never talked to the witnesses? My defense attorney reports that they did not audio tape witness statements and when the two witnesses reported they would cooperate with the courts I challenge him with a proper list of questions to ask the witnesses. He now reports that the witnesses are no longer available. He has the addresses of both witnesses and phone numbers. I believe he is lying. Also I am dealing with other issues of withholding knowledge and picture evidence. How do I confirm these elements? Also I discharged my defense attorney and another defense attorney was appointed. However after meeting with judge I was in conference with the discharged defense attorney. While having conversations about the attorneys conduct the attorney asked me how my family is doing? This man does not give a shit about my family. This is a threat to me and my family. He then gets up and walks from the conversation representing that he is not going to defend me. Well I already discharged him. This scares me and represents that he is going to manipulate the system in some way. I am documenting all the disclosure of the defense attorney to send to the Nevada Bar Association. However I am still concerned because the judge represents that my defense attorney is a fine defense attorney that he has been working with for five years. I told the judge that my defense attorney withheld knowledge of witnesses from me and evidence of pictures of me. The judge did not respond... I am in a world of shit... What do you think?
I found this article a long time ago. It is titled Corrupt Judges subtitled Civil Rights Violation. It has been useful to me I hope it helps you. I was convinced by fraudulent statements that the police made. They are like a bunch of parakeets they just repeat what the other one said. I have more than proved my innocence but no one cares. I was sexually assaulted in the interrogation room. By the police interrogator they know he does this. But no one cares I called the Hotline twice. But there has never been an investigation now I am a. Victim of sexual assault I have to live with the fact that. Some strange man sexually assaulted me you fell so dirty. And to top it off I never confessed he wrote I did. But the transcript didn't lie I never said anything like he wrote. Always remember what Vicki Lawrence said don't trust your soul to. No backwoods southern lawyer
Question is, did you want to talk to us about distracted driving and the deaths it causes?
OK, fair enough. But to the sir who made this video:
Just to be more clear, not that i actually know for sure about what the original question asker meant, but i imagine that she PROBABLY meant the favors between the prosecution and the PUBLIC DEFENDERS.
If only our Attorney actually stood up for my nephew like you stood up for this guy he probably would not be in prison right now. The attorney little did we know until after the whole thing was said and done had buddied up with the DA and everyone in the courthouse and had taken a job from the county court system as a court appointed attorney. I knew something changed about him from March to June. I read back over all his emails and the statements from the police officers and yes he changed. He went along with everything the DA wanted which was to put my nephew in Prison. My nephew has some mental issues stemming from his physical and mental abuse growing up with his father beating him relentlessly. He saw a psychiatrist when he was around 14 who said yes he is bipolar had OCD and Paranoia. A psychiatrist came into the jail to see him and suggested that he go to a residential mental health facility which in the very beginning right after taking our money Attorney was all for it. Yes it won’t be a problem. We can get him some mental help. The psychiatrist even sent us the letter of recommendation and the application and also the contact person’s name in the facility. So around June the Attorney is saying they offered him a plea deal at first 15 years serve 4. The attorney is holding back I suppose. I asked him 3 different times what about psychiatrist in an email and the last time I mentioned it he responded with who the heck is that? I don’t even know who your talking about. He signed off on the paperwork where she had turned the report back over to the DA but he had no idea who she was. He didn’t know what I was talking about. Needless to say he got 15 years serve 3. He was charged with elderly abuse which was all fabricated by the police officers and the DA. My mother told them he never touched her. He really didn’t. Yes they were arguing but that’s it. From the day he was born I have never known of him to even try to hit anyone. It was the opposite. Everyone would beat up on him. My mother said she sort of laughed when he said something crazy to her. She was not afraid of him in the least. But the police officers insisted. So did the DA after my mother had some very choice words to say to him. It was retaliation and our attorney who now was playing footsie with the attorney’s in that town. So sad for my nephew. He is 29 years old but has the mentality of a 16 year old. You never really know someone until you get in there with them and work or try to work with them and the real them will come shining through. Thank you for telling that story. You seem like such a great Attorney. The way Attorneys should be. For that I thank you
Do they realize this is people life they playing with.
It's supposed to be to do the law. To see that justice is done.
They Should be disbarred
50/50 is not proving beyond a reasonable doubt
I have a very crooked dirty case with the corrupt child trafficking system of cps and family courts and I would have given anything to have you or someone an eighth as good as you!!
This is why judges should be appointed to the bench for life by their state's governor and approved by the upper house of the state's legislature.
Please explain.
oh, yeah? I am in New Jersey. Here, lawyers recommend lawyers to be judges to be appointed by the governor, who then sit on cases for the attorneys who got them appointed. Then after 7 years they get reviewed by lawyers who reappoint the judge to keep sitting in on the cases of the lawyers who got them their job. If the judge does something stupid, which they do often, they might be reviewed after a judicial complaint, by lawyers. At no point in this strangely insular process does the public have any input. In fact, the lawyers and judges could give a rat's ass about what the unwashed masses think. You mean nothing to the courts. Your only role is to be a victim or a criminal. Those roles assigned to you are the lifeblood of the system. Literally, without victims blood, there is no money for the lawyers. No boat, not tee times, no backslapping in the courthouse, no disdain for those who can't quite seem to work a little Latin into their vernacular. At least with elections the assholes can be removed. Believe me, I have seen assholes in black costumes with their clown hammers hit untill I sat in on my friends 5 year long divorce. The indifference and arrogance of the judges was a real eye opener. I no longer respect the courts in any way. My neice was found dead. Her last words texted was " I think he broke my ribs". Well, when the lawyer for the little shit, who was before has since been involved in more abuse, showed up with the attorney for Bruce Springsteen, the prosecutors just gave way. I don't consider myself subject to the courts anymore. The courts are your enemy, trust me. The courts are indifferent and incompetent at best. My impression is corruption. When a registered sex offender hires a former chief of detectives for the county as a "consultant" and his brother to a 120k a year job, and is sentenced to 364 days in the county jail for gigabytes of pornography involving toddlers; gee what do you think happened?. Oh, and when he was dropped off at the jail one day and was home on release the next..... welcome to NJ. I read the entire case and have seen the checks to the "consultant". Thank god you have elections. We have assholes.
That's unbelievable that a prosecutor would say he knows it will get overturned on appeal but he's going forward anyway. Isn't that against bar ethics? It's also possibly criminal malicious prosecution. That you would countenance such egregious misconduct taints your integrity.
Hahaha what ethics hahaha wow stupid is the virus
I would like to get your opinion on my cases if you have a chance email me
Just call the office if its a Florida case
🤤❤ What a cutie, and intelligent, too!
Capp he's capping
Please share how Im lying :)
Smh
Where's the line crossed that witholds video evidence of a high crime such as a cop using a edged pair of handcuffs like a serial killer would to cut the palm of my hand then do a happy dance like he was a star in a purge movie and his just won points with his fellow career criminal cops on scene.
Watched it in my public defenders office.hell he had it saved as if it was a treasure.
But didn't give it to me when i requested them.but there on my channel.heavily skillfully edited by the cops to fit there narrative.hollywood caliber.but still they couldn't put anough lipstick on those pigs.
Come on you guys play golf with each other.
Hey buddy if your such a good guy why don't you tell your clients they have the most powerful status in this PRIVATE business known as a defacto pseudo quasi judicial administrative court? Why don't you tell your clients that the court is a FICTION of law?
Hang on let me get my dictionary and chat GPT and plug this all in because I’m not following your comment.
I sincerely acknowledge your viewpoint, and I wish to affirm that the quality of being a virtuous individual does not hinge upon the utilization of particular terminologies, such as "defacto pseudo quasi judicial administrative court" or any other legal parlance. Goodness, in its essence, surpasses mere verbal expressions or designations. It embodies the practice of treating others with benevolence, understanding, and courtesy, irrespective of the linguistic constructs we employ.
For those that read the above comment and thought "huh? ain't nobody got time to break out the dictionary, thesaurus and other translation materials". I got you. Translation below.
* De facto: It means something is real or exists, even if it's not officially recognized by the law. So, a "defacto court" is like a court that acts as if it's real and important, but it might not have the official approval or legality.
* Pseudo: This means something is fake or not genuine. A "pseudo court" looks like a real court, but it doesn't actually have the legal power to make official decisions.
* Quasi: It means something is kind of similar to another thing. A "quasi-judicial court" is like a court, but it might not have all the full powers and rules of a regular court.
* Administrative Court: This type of court deals with problems related to government decisions. It checks if the decisions made by government agencies follow the law.
So, when we say "defacto pseudo quasi judicial administrative court," it's like talking about a court-like thing that acts as if it's a real court, but it might not have all the official powers of a regular court. It handles government-related issues, but its decisions may not have the same importance as those of an officially recognized court.
Umm, ok. I'll let everyone know. Thank you for your comment.
So here's my case, I got a possession of controlled substance (fake meth that wasn't drugs but was in a baggie) and 1 count of possession of drug paraphernalia. But listen I immediately took responsibility for the meth pipe for my boyfriend due to my boyfriend at the time was facing 5 years if he got charged with another (4th) DUI/DWI but they asked me if they'd find anything else in the car if they searched which they were aloud to due to him being on bail/probation/alcohol monitor bracelet and I truly didn't think there was anything else in the car. Well there was a baggie with "drugs" that he got burnt with so it wasn't any sort of drug they threw me around and threw cuffs on me yelling at me telling me now we asked if we would find anything else and you lied. And I said no I didnt what are you talking about? And they showed me, and I was like uhm no sir I was being honest when I said you wouldn't find anything, so obviously it's not mine or I just dont remember having it there. It was I my boyfriend's cigarette pack and so I denied it the entire time and then found Subutex which I said I had them left over from my old prescription and so they just charged me with 2 charges but I should only face paraphernalia charge so wtf? What do I do? First time offender by the way but my charge was given to me in west hempfield I believe because I was in Manheim at the time and the Hempfield police pulled us over in a dollar general parking lot because we were sleeping in his BMW because of no gas to get home. Well they only pulled us over because someone had left a garbage bag out in the parking lot and we pulled in after hours and sat there for a little bit so apparently that's suspicious and a legit reason to pull us over even though his car wasn't even on. and we were just parked with keys out of the ignition. I don't understand really tbh. All of it confuses me. But me and him broke up BUT I have no ride to get to court. Plus he won't give me my I, multiple bank cards, clothes, shoes,makeup, etc.... which I'm gonna file a police report soon but I have a warrant for failure to appear so like it was active for a few months and then checked a month ago and it's currently inactive whatever that means.
If you are just puttering a plea in for a client, why do they need you? Thanks
The comment seems to be throwing a jab, and I have no idea what puttering a plea means but it does not sound flattering. If I could file a motion and/or go to trial on 100% of my clients cases, I would, however that would be my desire and not in my clients best interest. I do what is best for my clients and they tell me that is best for them. Sometimes, that is diversion, sometimes a plea, sometimes technical argument via motion and sometimes going to trial. BTW. when someone simply jabbed at me in a boxing ring, they got KO'd. Have a great day and thanks for watching.
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They dont understand legalese or attorneys, so would you explain the 6th amendment to them? Yes or No? Thanks
Same thing is happening to me in Monroe Township New Jersey...I got a DUI in February...5 months into the proceedings I was offered a plea agreement of reckless driving and a dismissal of the DUI and I refused. A week later I get a ticket in the mail from Monroe and it's a reckless driving added to my charges...So the plea becomes a new charge...No way that is happening unless my lawyer is in on it, the prosecutor Jennifer Burgess, who has since recused herself, instructs the cop, Officer David Pena, to do it, and the Police Chief Michael Biennas, signing off on it!!!...Long story short is the DUI and the RECKLESS DRIVING have since been dismissed and now I want to know if I have legal recourse because I feel aggrieved. ..Anyone know a lawyer to help me?
your talking 50/50 like this is a civil court. Please explain why a preponderance of evidence is even in play? Judges also have quotas for minor criminal and violation offenses. It isn't right.
Yeah, Everybody involved is "FOR SALE"? Starting with the Judges.
thats bs
@@thelawofficesofrogerp.fole7886 No those are the "FACTS"!
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I don't think your really working for we the people
Dave I agree with u .
And this is what I responded to him as well .
Foley the way u just responded to that persons comment about playing with peoples lives .
Sounds like u r presuming that just because someone got charged : means they did it ?? A lot of people are not only charged maliciously or by mistake but also convicted of crimes they never committed ??? That person Sounded like he or she were prosecuted for something that wasn’t born and didn’t happen or they had nothing to do with .
I can tell because , I was charged maliciously . And it is 1000 percent playing with a persons life . There were times I wanted to kill myself going through a process like that believing oh I have proof it’s fake . And they will just listen to me and dismiss it or won’t prosecute right away . But 2 years ? With a corrupt previous prosecutor Newly elected judge . And just a sham system .
It’s hurtful to hear how u responded . Then think before u commit a crime ??? Not everyone committed the crime!!!! Some people need a lawyer because they are innocent !!!
If I committed a crime I would plea bargain right away and move on with my life . But how do u plea bargain or admit to something u know u didn’t do ???
How come Biden can so many favors
Thanks, but hey, I can't believe you're driving and talking... videoing... Looking away from the road. It only takes a second to have an accident and wind up being bullied by the police and entering the system as a defendant, ruining your life. One second your life gone.
Thank you for your concern. Everything is mounted and hands free.
And then the TRUMP trials happen.