RockShox Fork Upgrades | Charger 2.1 Damper & DebonAir Air Spring | Lyrik, Yari, Pike & Revelation
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- Опубликовано: 27 июл 2024
- If you want better performance from your RockShox Lyrik, Yari, Pike or Revelation, you can easily upgrade your fork’s internal parts to transform your mid-level fork into the top-tier Ultimate fork!
In this video, we’re going to show how you can easily change a few parts in your current fork to have that top shelf performance without having to drop a bunch of dough for an entirely new fork.
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I already did this with Pike 140MM and i cant believe the difference, especially in hand fatigue and the bump sensitivity is amazing-- it feels as if i am cutting through those small bumps v going over them...just so smooth.
Did the same on Pike, did you have to lower psi dramatically to obtain sag? I’m sitting at 50 psi to get 15 mm. Thanks for the feedback
Love how simple and straight forward these videos are
Yeah, makes me wonder if it really is that simple🤣
This was one of the most helpful videos I've ever watched regardless of subject matter. Cheers for putting this together so well. Upgrade kit order coming your way...
Fantastic video! Exactly what I needed to help me decide how to manage my Pike RC fork - thanks!
Great information. My wife and I both have Pikes that I was installing these upgrades as this video was being released. Our shocks also got an air spring service. Hopefully we can get out and ride them this afternoon.
Thanks to you, I ordered from your site, debonair and charger, can't wait
Great video! I just got a Remedy 9.7 with a Yari fork and this seems like what it needs. In forksight this is what I should have done all along
Fantastic video. Gave me EXACTLY the information I went to their website for and struggled to work out. Thanks a million!
Success!! Stoked we could help out.
Your videos are so clear and concise, so good!
Hey Mike, I upgraded my 2017 Pike RCT3 to the Charger 2.1 damper and went from a 150mm spring to a 160mm Debonair spring. Very happy with the results.
I ordered a compatible 160 mm Debonair for my 140 mm Pike in hope to extend the travel 20 mm.
How did it work for you extending travel 10 mils? I guess the oil damper still is it's original length, or how does that work?
Just did the air spring in my 2018 35mm Revelation RC and can’t believe how much less stiction it has. Can’t wait to do the damper now.
Breaking it down for the layman's. So helpful thank you.
Awesome Video Guys. I feel an upgrade coming on!!!!
Thanks for clarifying what's better for a longer travel Pike (160).
I upgraded the spring already but at 160mm, the RC2 damper is what I should go with...Excellent!
This is such a good video! Upgrade here we come!
Thanks guys!, My Pike 2016, now is ultimate!
I just serviced (on m'y own for 50 box) the lowers and air spring of my 2018 lyrik rct3 witch hasn't been serviced since more than a year, and it feels like brand new!
Really useful. I'm about to upgrade a Revelation. Many thanks.
Thank you! Can't wait to upgrade my pike
The video with all the answers I need!
great video, I was confused about some of the details and will order from you guys
How did I just find this channel? Awesome
I have upgraded my 2018 revelation fork (35mm) with newer debonair spring and dampener Charger V2,.1 and yes, I can feel the difference, now it has better compliance, and shock feels way more sensitive on small bumps. The only cone it got heavier, not really a con, but a fact! But I am happy with this upgrade.
Could you help me here? I want to do the same but are wondering what rebuild kit to order. Will a rebuild kit for the revelation still work? Or should I get a pike rebuild kit with added advantage of SKF seals? TIA.
Dude this is so badass. Thank you so much mike I was thinking about buying a new fork and now im stoked to save a ton of money.🤟
That's what we like to hear!
Thanks, super simple and informative.
Great video... This guy does awesome informative videos!!!!
tnk for the help!!!very nice video!!!hello from Greece!!!
Great video,will upgrade.
Great Video Thank you for this!
Dude really digging these tech videos. Keep up the good work.
Fantastic video!
Awesome job with with video. I'm definitely minimum getting rc2 kit and debonair for both legs when it is time to rebuild my pike.
I’ve got the Debonair Lyrik they are great
Me too and Ditto...It is so good that after 1000 hours my shockwiz is telling me to let out 10 psi
Great, now i have an godd idea and a wish! Update will start soon. Thank you!
Like the new hair style!
Just picked up a used yeti, got the upgrade debonair kit, saving up for the damper next
I just got rockshox Pike rct3 140mm brand new for 375$. such a amazing shock.
Amazing video
Great vid
I’ve got a RS 35 Gold, Debon Air, 2020
Should work too, since Yari and Pike are the same.
i would love a video talking about the difference between fox and rockshox forks like you did with sram and shimano brakes, was awesome, cheers from brazil
Thanks for the kind word! We will have a video in early Spring about the Fox 36 vs RockShox Lyrik 🤘
Had a pre-Debon Air Yari, pretty fine fork. Guess the upgrades would have made it even finer.
Got one of those on my first bike. I then went the long route and put in a DebonAir spring and a Charger 2.1 RC2, plus an MRP ramp control cartridge. Now it's a damn fine fork!
Great video! Thank you! I could not find clear explanations as yours even at RockShox website, with, by the way, gives no explanations at all.
Wanting to know the same thing?
Anyone watching this with an A1-A2 model Pike... RS stopped selling the latest Debonair upgrade for our forks, but you can buy the older debonair (thin red seal head) and add a "seal head upgrade" for a lyrik or whatever as long as its 35mm. with a 12mm wrench and an 8mm allen key you change the seal head and footnut to give yourself the latest Debonair air spring.
I'm looking at buying a used Lyrik Select and upgrading it with a 140mm debonair spring and eventually maybe a charger damper. Planning out my next bike right now and have a line on a cheap 2021 Norco and a cheap Lyrik, should be fun.
Should a followup video with something like the products vorsprung makes to upgrade forks! Like smashpot coil conversion for the yari and lyrik
THANKS!
Great information!! Just saved me from buying a $1000 Fox 36!!
You do a nice job.
Thank you Allen!!
I have a 2019 Revelation, which damper upgrade is best for me, the Charger 2.0 or 2.1? Also, since I am seeing 2021 upgrades released, is it better to get the 2020 upgrade which might be at a bargain now? Is the 2021 a marginal upgrade that would have diminishing returns?
I have the Revelation RC 35mm 2018 fork with 29er set up 140mm travel. Can i get the air spring and the charger and somehow get 150mm travel? Is it going to mess up the geometry of the bike?
So how does this work with rebuild kits? When you upgrade, do you still use the standard ones meant for you fork type? I have to do both right now.
Let’s get a push 11.6 + ACS-3 upgrade. I’m rocking a DPX2 factory and factory 36 grip 2, and considering getting pushed but nervous about going coil in front and not being able to go back.
Watching this with a fox 34 coming tomorrow
I got a lyrik select plus. Is there any benifit from upgrading to one with a lockout on it apart from the benifit of a lockout?
I have a Pike Select Debonair with 150mm travel and low speed compression only. Is it possible to upgrade to the RCT3 kit or is it more suitable the RC2 for the 150mm travel? Kind of miss the lock ability for the long climbs (not saying it's a requirement).
With a liryk do you suggest the rc2.1 damper upgrade or going with push hc97 damper? Running the ACS3 already
Aloha
So the bike I got ordered said it’s Lyrik select plus with debonair and 2.1 charger
What is the difference in the ultimate if any or is it just the red lowers
Thanks
I ride 2017 lyrik rct3, should i upgrade it with debon air? And charge 2.1,?
For a 165lb rider looking at the pike and lyrik 29. To put on a SC hightower (150mm.) for mostly trail use, occasional enduro trails. Would it be worth saving the 1/3lb and going for the pike or at 29 150mm will their be a noticeable difference in flex for trail use?
Cheers!
I have a yari 160mm travel, i am debating on the rc2 vs rct3. Is there a huge difference between the 2? Especially it is a $100 diff on the price.
So on a lyrik select rc 2021 is it possible to change damper and install a rc2 ultimate one? the airshaft should be already the last version of it right ?
hey i have a Pike Select+ 2020 150mm on my devinci troy GX i find my fork too soft what i should upgrade on my fork ? or should i just change my fork thank you ..
I have a Pike Ultimate 120 with the charger damper. Can I use the damper from a 2021 120mm SID with 35 mm stanchions with the lock out? Thanks
Just checking if I have understood it correctly. Even the Yaris Version can be upgrade to the New RC 2.1 version. Removing the original air/ oil mixed damper....??
Hi, for a RockShox Upgrade, you Upgrade the airspring and the damper.
For the fox, only the damper.
Does this mean the Performance fox already has the same damper as the Elite or factory?
I have a transition patrol NX 2020 and it comes with a Rockshox Lyrik Select what are my upgrade options been searching the web and I'm not sure what I can do? They seem to be a lot more configurable than Fox kit which is awesome
Does this also works with the Rockshox 35 Gold?
Hi iam looking for the crown thread diameter where the new charger threads in ....... For some retro fork upgrades
Would I be able to put a rockshox lyric ultimate on my trek slash 9.8?
Can i change lower legs, from Lyrik 27,5 Ultimate, to get a Lyrik 29 Ultimate??
I have a lyrik ultimate rc2 with totaled stanchions. Can I transfer the damper and debonair airspring to a base-model yari and technically transform it into a lyrik ultimate?
Does this upgrade apply to RockShox 35 Gold RL??
Do you know if the Yari 140mm can be upgraded to the Lyrik 160 cartridge?
I’m still debating whether to get new fork or buy the new damper, I already have a 2019 Yari but the damper cost £300 to upgrade and I can get an almost new (Lyrik Ultimate) fork for about £600-£700🤔
Hi, I've just upgraded my Revelaton fork to Pike Ultimate using SRAM Damper Upgrade Kit - Charger 2.1 RC2 Crown High Speed, Low Speed. The first impression is shocking! Is it not possible to lock this charger almost to "zero". On the Revelation I was using the Lock positoin while uphills and the fork was almost stiff. I am trying to lock the charger and it doesn't work. Is there something wrong or the charger does not have lock option? (I hope it does have!)
I have a Pike Select plus - came on a 2022 Santa Cruz 5010. How do I know which air spring I have? I know I only have one compression setting, so I assume that means I have the lower-level damper.
I recently "upgraded" to a debonair air gen 1 shaft all fitted fine and moved fine how ever thay sag more then the stock air shaft and also get stuck down at about 120mm from 150 i can hold the lowers down and pull it back up to 150 but once sat on it it dose the same thing iv added extra bottomless tokens and up to 150psi and still get this sane issue
Any ideas on the problem
Can i get a 170mm debonair to increase my lyrik travel from 160mm?
I have a 2019 lyrik rc would these upgrades help or have I got these parts in my fork already
Will Bennett you have the debon air spring. U would need to buy 2.1 charge damper.
Now there is a new 2021 air Spring available . I‘ll Youssef this for my 2019 Yari.
Put a 2.1 damper with HSC and LSC on my revelation fork that on my hardtail. The damper feel amazing. But the HSC or LSC has absolutely no effect maybe I'm already on the perfect psi rebounds and token cos that has absolutely effect at all
I just learned that there is a coil conversion kit for rockshox: ACS3 FORK COIL CONVERSION KIT FOR 2016-2020 ROCK SHOX LYRIK/YARI RC/RCT3/RC2
I bought the Charger 2.1 Damper Upgrade Kit, but I might swap it...depending on research.
You can do both, install the Charger damper and a coil spring.
But to me it looks like the Vorsprung Smashpot might be the coil way to go
Sooo, why Reba or Recon do not have Debon Air piston upgrade since Sektor 2020 has one and they're all 32mm stanchion forks with similar travel range? Any info on that? #TheLostCo
Has something changed in 2020? Previous years the Lyrik and Yari shared the same magnesium crown.
Can you put the rc2 in the pike a1? Seems like only the rct or rct3
Would this work with a RockShox 35 Gold aswell? Should be good in theory since its the same chassis as the Revelation, but cant find any practical information on it
Meteor Media the thing that's nice about rockshox is that they do a great job of making services doable by anyone with even some mechanical aptitude. I can't say for sure theyll be compatible since the gold 35s are an older model of rockshox but chances are there's an upgrade kit out there for them. they are 35mm stanchions though which means you'd likely have an easy time fitting either rc2 damper in there which are what come on pikes/revelations. rct3 dampers probably wouldn't work tho as those are meant for lyriks/yaris
Meteor Media No...
Meteor Media the 35 has the debonair spring. I’m not sure about the damper. I just got mine yesterday.
@@kel5944 What about SIlver version of 35? its solo air spring.
Who can you recommend in the Sacramento area that will do this upgrade thank you.
Would this work with the Judy Silver?
I'm currently saving up for the bomber z1 coil. I own the 2020 yari's currently
pls dont get coils
@@andyg7769 Why?
Just get a Volsprung Smashpot coil conversion kit
@@MTBFlowRider wanting to upgrade the damper aswell, so the bomber z1 coil is a better and cheaper option.
Eh me to!!!
I have a 2020 Nukeproof Mega Comp with 170mm Yari fork. Can anyone tell me if I would already have the latest version of Debon Air Spring?
Thanks for the informative video, looks like I need to to save up some cash for a cheeky wee upgrade.
Can increase or decrease travel with a different air spring too.
Does anybody know if it is possible to put the new Lyrik/Yari DebonAir spring into a (35mm) Pike/Revelation? The Pike spring looks a bit different, and the Lyrik is supposed to be a bit plusher, but RockShox seems to separate the two springs for some reason.
Fantastic Upgrade and Video !. . do u know if RockShox 35 Silver TK air sprung 130mm can be upgraded with those ? Regards.
i read somewhere that 35 has a diffrent thread for internals (more dense) so possible those upgrades want fit.. but i am still double checking this.. here is that info: forums.mtbr.com/shocks-suspension/rockshox-35-gold-rl-disassemble-%96-what%92s-inside-1142709.html
Can a fox shock rhythm be upgraded?
I love this ability to upgrade! But first, a question: I have a 140mm 2016 Pike RC, Can I buy the same size damper in Charger 2.1 but make it a RCT3 instead?
According to the Sram docs www.servicearchive.sram.com/sites/default/files/techdocs/rockshox_spc_-_rev_h_1.pdf, you could upgrade to a RCT3 Charger 2.1 damper. Here are the parts number :
00.4020.169.000 DAMPER UPGRADE KIT - CHARGER2.1 RCT3 CROWN (INCLUDES COMPLETE RIGHT SIDE INTERNALS) - PIKE 15X100 26"(A1-A2/2014-2017)
00.4020.169.001 DAMPER UPGRADE KIT - CHARGER2.1 RCT3 CROWN (INCLUDES COMPLETE RIGHT SIDE INTERNALS) - PIKE 15X100 27.5"(A1-A2/2014-2017)
00.4020.169.002 DAMPER UPGRADE KIT - CHARGER2.1 RCT3 CROWN (INCLUDES COMPLETE RIGHT SIDE INTERNALS) - PIKE 15X100 29"(A1-A2/2014-2017)
What is the model of that newest air spring for lyrik I am getting a 2022 model
Can a Gold 35 be upgraded like this ?
Hi I was wondering if you could help me I’m starting to get in to downhill I have a mondraker summum but can’t decide what rear shock to get between the fox dhx2 or float x2 I’m around 210lbs and bit worried about bottoming out on the float x2 hopefully you could help thanks
I am not much of a techie, but are you 210 with or without gear. I ride with about 15 lbs. of gear which makes a huge difference when initially setting up a shock. I would think tokens would help you. I do ride with one bigger guy who runs a coil in the rear.
Could u plz give me the Part number for the best spring damper set up for my 2020 revelation rc 35mm forks
I have a rochshox pike 2014 dual position, with upgrade: debonair and charger 2.1 rct3. I don't understand the 200hr service kit that I have to buy for my fork, do I have to buy the one for the charger 2.1 (code: 00.4318.025.120) or the classic one without considering that I have updated it (code: 00.4315.032.618)?