2015 Jeep Renegade: For the insecure male who thinks driving a Kia Soul (insert RCR old guy voice here) "might have people think he goes to THOSE clubs in Filth-a-delphia. That's not me!"
It's more of an SUV than 95% of what they call SUVs these days. Locking differential, 6 speed manual, decent ground clearance = better than 100% of the car based Crossovers out there
I ran into a HS acquaintance a couple of years ago, soon after he had purchased a Renegade. He really loved it, and he was really excited to tell me that it had the same engine as my Abarth. It really seems like a B-side from Jeep that appeals to enthusiasts who haven’t fully dedicated their lives to angry-headlight Jeep bro culture.
Lol thanks for reviewing my car Nick! Was really nice to meet you ❤️ I do very much like this car if only because its so bare bones, yet modern and comes with a warranty. I absolutely loathe infotainment systems and driving aids. I also appreciate the manual, even if the clutch can be a pain sometimes. I would never recommend anyone buy a 2.4l auto Renegade. Hopefully next year I'll have another car for you as well
Thanks for getting this reviewed! I have the exact same car but white. It’s done a faithful 130k miles now and I still average 34mpg real world. It’s been a joy.
My 2015 1.4 6sp Latitude is closing in on 170,000 miles. I've owned it since new and the only unscheduled repairs it's needed were a new radiator at around 130k and a replacement uConnect head unit (under warranty) back in 2017. It's an ideal family hauler for a family of 3 and a dog, and a practical commuter as well. One of the best all-around dailies I've ever owned. I'd buy another if they'd sell me a manual.
Your whole weird kid analogy is spot on. There was a kid who moved into my neighborhood when I was like 12, and at first he was strange and I avoided him, but his mom invited me over one day and they were very kind and I became good friends with him. They moved a few years later, but I think about them from time to time
"Yes, officer, I'm 50, I was a street artist, i mean I'm still but my wrist right now is in shambles so no more graffiti for me, I only draw them on paper. Yes, I have tattoos of my children names. Yes, my parents were rich but I did art school and embraced the poor guy from the bad ghetto aesthetic. Yes I work in corporate now but i still wear oversized shoes and brightly coloured sweaters, and constantly bore down my colleagues with my superiority complex of being less and oppressed. Yes, that badly parked Renegade it's mine."
"Yes, my parents own the company, but I'm an embarrassment to the family, so they have to hire an outside CEO. They did give me a token management position, but made sure that I don't decide on anything important."
I knew a lady who lived on an Indian reservation. She wanted a car that she could daily back and forth into Gallup,NM but she didn't really need another full sized suv. Apparently it does really well on the dirt roads and whatnot out in Navajo country and it's decent on gas so win win.
You always know it's a Roman video when it's 720p. Totally fits the Race To The Bottom feel. Edit: My 2014 Civic Si Coupe had a clutch delay valve. It can be modded to give better clutch feel and engagement and it's a night and day difference. Totally worth the trouble. Basically there's a little plastic part inside the slave cylinder and once removed, lets the hydraulic fluid flow through way better.
Here in Brazil we had the Renegade with the 1.8L Etorq paired with a 6 speed slushbox. Man, that thing is actually slower than many 1L cars I drove. And it rolls! They roll, baby, they roll! But those shopping mall warriors love'em.
I've got 50 inch jumbotron screen in my Subaru and I definitely miss having a simple dash. Except for Android Auto.. Can't live without it but I definitely want some knobs.
@@PrydeWater901 Exactly what my 2017 Impreza has and it's fucking glorious. And Android Auto mostly works (not sure whether it's just Subaru being flaky, or the fact that I'm using a phone basically the same age as the car)
This car isnt for 'jeep guys' at all: its for the girl whose dream car was a wrangler, then find out on the test drive that it handles like shit on-road.
I got youtube premium a while ago because i was blasted with ads about the ford fecalsport claiming its better than the renegade every five goddamn seconds
If you have an iPhone, you can use brave. It has adblock, and lets you play videos with the screen off. UI is a bit crap, but I’d rather deal with a worse UI than pay like $20/mo
I got it because I had had enough of J Lo interrupting me with her Goli ads, especially when listening to "Elysium/Honor Him/Now We Are Free" from Gladiator.
Maybe that's why I was drawn to this car! (I'm the owner.) Growing up my mom had a first gen crv with a manual, and I absolutely loved riding in it. Now that you mentioned it... It does feel extremely similar. Nostalgia is a funny thing. I still have the trunk picnic table.
@@liamc9585 Interesting point, i know this is overtalked but you know the B20 engines in the CRV were bulletproof, what your opinion on the 1.4 turbo so far?
@@luisdietsch52 change the oil religiously, but apart from that no issues. They do have a timing belt that should be replaced every 70k miles, but a lot of people have gotten to well past 150k miles on the original belt.
My mom is still making payments on her White 2.4 9AT. I was driven to school in this thing as a kid before taking the bus made more sense. The buses bench seats were on par if a tad better than all the seats in her Renegade. I regrettably got my license with this thing, and almost got t-boned by oncoming traffic due to how thick the A pillars are. The fact this thing had a manual saddens me- they didn't even try to make it usable. I can imagine offloading with it would involve second guessing and hovering over the e-brake constantly considering how little it took to stall. I would have never driven my last three manual cars if the transmission was setup this way.
It was the off-road trim on the KJ and KK Liberty, with the 3.7L V6 and Command-trac or Selec-Trac depending on the options. I loved mine, and it's the smallest vehicle I've ever owned where I could take a hardhat off while sitting in it, despite the sunroof.
First of all, 10/10 video. Secondly, on to the subject of the transmission. This is the exact reason that those "Endangered Species" stickers exist. A real perfect storm of pissing in the party's punch. Let's break it down, one-by-one. -Small displacement engine: Emissions and CAFE regs make tiny engines the way to go. This one is tasked with moving a modern and thus heavy (~3,100 lbs) vehicle. Thus, a turbo has to be introduced to match the engine to the job. Turbos=lag. -Throttle-by-wire: Emissions require the use of throttle-by-wire to prevent rich spikes which would crank emissions, introducing rev-hang and lag. -Clutch delay valve: Because companies don't trust people to understand how to be gentle, they expect people to just dump the clutch. If you try to drive the thing how you're supposed to drive a manual, you'll be stacking, you guessed it, more lag. The result is a manual where you release the clutch slowly, and it still isn't engaged, so you let the rest of the way go. BAM, stalled. Okay, restart. Let's be real gentle this time, and BAM. Still stalled. There isn't enough rotating mass at idle to get this thing going. Let's feed in some throttle, but you didn't account for the rev-hang, and BAM stalled. You have to stack recalibrations on recalibrations. The best cars disappear before you and do as you request without you even thinking about it. You've got to go on an adventure, Nick. An adventure to a time before those regulations caused these problems.
I rented one and the doors felt so cheap, like I could rip one off by hand. I know that’s probably not true but it didn’t have the heft I would’ve wanted. But it got me around Florida for a week fine I guess
From another view point, a jeep branded fiat panda isn't the worst idea. At least in my mind Fiat panda is the reliable(maybe) regular car of humble man, with taller chassis and bigger room and somewhat off-roadable in a compact car. Outside of fiat-chrysler build quality, it's something that can be respected.
The Fiat Panda is such a great car. If Fiat had the balls of selling it to US and Asia it will cause a riot, but no, Italy has to be represented by the worst reliable products corporate can make I guess... you won't get the Panda, here's another Alfa/Maserati SUV that will brick the moment you'll leave the showroom
This is a size bigger than the Panda, same platform as the Fiat 500X. I think the Panda would sell well in the US as a Jeep but disappear without trace as a Fiat.
I’ve never met a single person who liked their Renegade. Most felt like it was too small (obviously). One person had issues with her 3 year old Renegade breaking down. Lol.
I bought my 2019 Mazda3 with the basic packages just because I really enjoyed that all the major controls were buttons and knobs, yet it still had a decent screen and Apple CarPlay at the same time. This is the level of electronics integration I want in my vehicle...and I say that as someone who has worked in technology for almost 30 years now. I live on the bleeding edge of tech, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. My car's #$%^ing interior isn't one of them.
Bought a lightly used, same-spec 2018 and knew it was important to be in on the joke right away when driving a car that looks like Barbie designed it after dropping a tab of acid. At least the Fiat Renegatto looks better than the 500X, which answers the question “what would snot look like if it were a car?” Also, after 100k miles, no real problems. No one is more surprised than I.
The 500X really is ugly. It looks like a Fiat 500 that ate too much cake, gained a double chin and went up three pants sizes. I saw one the other day and had to do a double take because I utterly forgot they existed.
I rented one of these for a week. It was comfy and a little nimble on city streets. When I got on it though i could smell the transmission getting too hot. It was the auto
Before watching: The only reason this car exists is so that you can say that you have a Jeep, if it isn't top 3 worst I'd be shocked. After watching: Welp
12:50 To let my inner pedant out for a minute, Renegade was also use as a trim level for the first-gen Liberty (KJ), and (according to Wikipedia) as a limited edition trim on the second-gen from 2009-2011. So, technically, only a 4 year sabbatical
The Renegade was never made for Jeep Guys. It was made for people who admire Jeep Guys and fantasize about being a Jeep Guy too. Also for the partners of Jeep Guys who want to feel like they're sharing something in common.
@christianhighlights4434 why? It has tripple the gas milage of my old vehicle, a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty, has 4wd, and can tow my trailer. It has everything I need. I already have a sports car for "fun". This vehicle is exactly what I will need for snow storms
@@moonscar119I just hope you planning on someone else doing the oil changes, are ready to replace lug bolts and are ready for the engine to develop head issues and major oil leaks around 100,000 miles. And yikes, your using it to tow?
I helped my (now ex) girlfriend purchase one at a Honda dealership used when we were intending on purchasing a used CRV that was sold 30 minutes before we got there. It has blown every bulb except for headlights at least once, cooling fan failure, and thermostat failure. Not exactly the most intrusive breaks to happen to vehicles, but I definitely wasn't impressed by the 2018 2.4L renegade.
I considered buying one of these in 2021, I really like the styling. But since I wanted an auto it was only available with the horrible tiger shark engine. So I looked at other similar vehicles and ended up with a Mazda CX-30 turbo. I don't regret it, but the cladding is a bit excessive.
These sold quite well, and I advocated for people to get them because they were just... Good. Not great. But good. Then in 2018 FCA lost their shit, stopped updating them, started increasing prices of all Jeeps and RAMs to cover for their mistakes with Alfa Romeo and Maserati back home, and when the worst event of 2020 happened suddenly there were Jeep Renegades sitting at $32,000 in packs of fifty on dealership lots when most other manufacturers looked like the Mojave Desert with how empty they were. Inventory was up to two hundred days for Renegades at one point, and with the new Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer incoming Stellantis dragged them off the lots with a cane hook and sold them to wholesalers. So suddenly last summer there were a bunch of these 2020 and 2021 models, brand new and unused, showing up in auction houses getting yoinked by used dealers and pumped onto their lots for $15,000. I bet some of them have five grand in mileage from lot ferrying and test drives despite never once being titled.
Americans simply cant understand the Renegade. While it was somewhat of a failure in its self-proclaimed homeland, the US, the goal that then FCA aimed with this vehicle was to hop-in on the global SUV/crossover craze with their specialty brand for this type of vehicle. And for that, you needed 2 things: For one, you needed a car that had the size and feel akin to other European and Asian competitors, without the classic cruise-ship feel that most American cars have and that is not appreciated in other parts of the globe, and 2: you needed to market the brand, for whereas jeep was a common sight on American streets, on most parts of the globe, it was either something Grandpa would talk when discussing wartime or a rare sight of a snob rich person trying to appear American. So, they crafted this: an European car, with European feel and size that markets what Jeep tries to signal with their brand, in order to conquer new markets for the brand. Here in Brazil, despite becoming a meme for "haha not a jeep", it was a major hit, being fir a long time the best selling suv and still figuring among the top sold ones. Hence, it is still being produced, being face-lifted locally in 2022 and probably will keep being produced until emissions laws let them.
My experience with this car is with the 2.4L auto. It was bought by a loved one who was fresh off a mental breakdown and bought brand new when their XJ was not working out anymore, complete with 7 year loan and a horrid interest rate to boot. I've had to pick that person up multiple times because this thing is always having something wrong with it, and eats through consumables like crazy. I see this thing and I can almost taste MLM essential oils. I can almost smell the 15 fast food cups in the passenger floorboard. I've never seen the inside of one of these things clean in the wild. to me, Its just behind the Nissan lineup for bumper car status. Its like a chariot of mental illness, financial illiteracy, self destructive tendencies, and the inability to take accountability (that stationary object always comes out of nowhere). Its not that this car is inherently worse than every other car out there, I'm sure they are "fine" with decent care. But MAN did they try to steal Nissan's share of horrid drivers and subprime loans.
That was the best Race to The Bottom ever! P.S. - Is the 1991 Lincoln Mark VII blurb a preview of next week's car? Just curious. If so, I've never seen you guys use this promotional technique before.
Your 3 tier system reminds me of Zero Punctuation’s Top 5 Best, Worst, and Blandest system of ranking games of the year. What you’re getting at isn’t unheard of, for what it’s worth Roman - the car is okay and that’s okay
I was with my uncle for a wedding in utah and he and I got a Jeep renegade for the tental car because it was cheap. The first thing he did was try to adjust the reae view mirror and it just fell off.
this thing is a sleeper rally car, especially if you've ever taken it off to the dirt. i bet the manual is even better than the auto i drove in the desert.
holy crap! i didn't know this about the gearbox when i rented one for a drive to the airport. i thought i was going crazy trying to figure out the gearbox!
Jeep Renegade: My taillights have nipple tassels to hide the naughty bits.
AHAHAHA I'll never be able to look at the tailights the same again. 💀💀
"I've been 40 for the past 20 years"
I feel personally attacked
Same.
We are a proud and welcoming company of curmudgeons!
I've felt 80 since I was 8. I can't wait to get there. :3
Us Gen Xers have been 30 for 40 years, so there!
Imagine how Arn Anderson feels. Man was 40 for 30 years.
The automotive equivalent of Old Country Buffet is one of the most appropriate descriptions I've heard from you guys in many years.
2015 Jeep Renegade: For the insecure male who thinks driving a Kia Soul (insert RCR old guy voice here) "might have people think he goes to THOSE clubs in Filth-a-delphia. That's not me!"
My Heart. *clutches heart*
I drive a soul, and I wanted one of these things so bad when they were new
it's not like that
My sister told her boyfriend not to drive a Soul, despite being bi herself. I mean the kind of bi where she has mostly dated women and has short hair.
Drive a Renegatto, owned two Souls. Don't go to THOSE clubs, not that there is anything wrong with that.
and old people. Lol so what. Get whatever car you can in this hellscape.@@JohnSmith-wx9wj
Wait, men actually drive these??
I personally haven't seen it.
Jeep Renegade: Rental agencies still charge SUV rates for it.
No, these are considered upgrade for Hertz gold members. Ask me how I know.
If you get one of these, the rental company should pay YOU.
@@2steaksandwiches665 I am so, so sorry for your pain.
It's more of an SUV than 95% of what they call SUVs these days. Locking differential, 6 speed manual, decent ground clearance = better than 100% of the car based Crossovers out there
Yes. It’s a small SUV at Enterprise lol.
The power of chrysler compells you
*THE POWEREERRREE OF CHRYSLARRH CUMPULLLSSS YOUUU RAGHHRRAGARAGARAG*
I ran into a HS acquaintance a couple of years ago, soon after he had purchased a Renegade. He really loved it, and he was really excited to tell me that it had the same engine as my Abarth.
It really seems like a B-side from Jeep that appeals to enthusiasts who haven’t fully dedicated their lives to angry-headlight Jeep bro culture.
I feel like it took the place of the Dart tbh
Am I the HS friend? Because ever since I flipped a Abarth for a 17 Renegade 6mt I haven't shut up about my Italian American lunchbox.
@@unseengrubdoes said lunchbox have an accent?
Jeep Renegade: The Official Vehicle of "I SWEAR TO FUCKING GOD THIS ISN'T A FIAT, WHY WOULD YOU THINK THIS IS A FIAT?!"
Lol thanks for reviewing my car Nick! Was really nice to meet you ❤️
I do very much like this car if only because its so bare bones, yet modern and comes with a warranty. I absolutely loathe infotainment systems and driving aids. I also appreciate the manual, even if the clutch can be a pain sometimes. I would never recommend anyone buy a 2.4l auto Renegade.
Hopefully next year I'll have another car for you as well
Thanks for getting this reviewed! I have the exact same car but white. It’s done a faithful 130k miles now and I still average 34mpg real world. It’s been a joy.
The pleasure was all mine, Liam! Thank you for volunteering and for just being such a swell guy.
My 2015 1.4 6sp Latitude is closing in on 170,000 miles. I've owned it since new and the only unscheduled repairs it's needed were a new radiator at around 130k and a replacement uConnect head unit (under warranty) back in 2017. It's an ideal family hauler for a family of 3 and a dog, and a practical commuter as well. One of the best all-around dailies I've ever owned. I'd buy another if they'd sell me a manual.
Your car's pretty oddly endearing in its simplicity.
There may be a clutch delay valve delete kit to solve that problem.
Your whole weird kid analogy is spot on. There was a kid who moved into my neighborhood when I was like 12, and at first he was strange and I avoided him, but his mom invited me over one day and they were very kind and I became good friends with him. They moved a few years later, but I think about them from time to time
That’s a nice comment.
Jeep Renegade: The official car for people who just need a Corolla but want to feel ~adventurous~
A Corolla would be a massive upgrade over this
@@vadim6385 Oh for sure. Almost an incalculable upgrade
lots of adventures to their local mechanic
@@vadim6385 An expensive upgrade. A Corolla costs more than a small, simple car should.
@notmirelnam248 Renegade starts at $29,445. Corolla starts at $23,145. How would you price the corolla?
"Yes, officer, I'm 50, I was a street artist, i mean I'm still but my wrist right now is in shambles so no more graffiti for me, I only draw them on paper. Yes, I have tattoos of my children names. Yes, my parents were rich but I did art school and embraced the poor guy from the bad ghetto aesthetic. Yes I work in corporate now but i still wear oversized shoes and brightly coloured sweaters, and constantly bore down my colleagues with my superiority complex of being less and oppressed. Yes, that badly parked Renegade it's mine."
I believe in world peace, equality and cocaine. Also am heading up our local chapter of NIMBY.
@@theseventysevenmiles spot on lol
"Yes, my parents own the company, but I'm an embarrassment to the family, so they have to hire an outside CEO. They did give me a token management position, but made sure that I don't decide on anything important."
@@vadim6385 "I've successfully completed six marriages and rehabs. I know adversity."
I knew a lady who lived on an Indian reservation. She wanted a car that she could daily back and forth into Gallup,NM but she didn't really need another full sized suv. Apparently it does really well on the dirt roads and whatnot out in Navajo country and it's decent on gas so win win.
But it's a terrible car with an even worse transmission.
The Jeep renegade- waving 👋 at wrangler owners and they don’t wave back
I stopped waving at Jeep Wrangler people
I drive an FJ40 and definitely don't wave back. And God forbid you put one of those f*cking ducks on my cowl
That awkward elbow touch of 2 guys that don't know each other well lol
😂😂😂
You always know it's a Roman video when it's 720p. Totally fits the Race To The Bottom feel.
Edit: My 2014 Civic Si Coupe had a clutch delay valve. It can be modded to give better clutch feel and engagement and it's a night and day difference. Totally worth the trouble. Basically there's a little plastic part inside the slave cylinder and once removed, lets the hydraulic fluid flow through way better.
Official headlights that were inspired by the look of a guy busting when he promised to pull out
I looked at the headlights again after reading this and now I'll never be able to unsee it.
Username seems apt. 😂
i live in the italian alps (Muncion), 1 in 3 cars here is a white jeep renegade
The Sony X-plode speaker taillights get me every time.
Here in Brazil we had the Renegade with the 1.8L Etorq paired with a 6 speed slushbox. Man, that thing is actually slower than many 1L cars I drove. And it rolls! They roll, baby, they roll! But those shopping mall warriors love'em.
esse 1.8 extorque é mo bom na minha palio weekend adventure so q é verdade no renegade o carro não anda
Renegade. Built in Italy since 1941. At least it says that ALL over the interior...
OmG, iT's A cOmMuNiSt!!?? D:
It’s a bit like Italy taking revenge on Jeep for WW2.
“Logos…logos…ethos…pathos…”
That was subtle, but that was damn good. A little something for the English Comp. nerds in the audience.
My daughter kept me up all night but at least there’s a new video right now
I felt this bro
I've got 50 inch jumbotron screen in my Subaru and I definitely miss having a simple dash. Except for Android Auto.. Can't live without it but I definitely want some knobs.
Two-knob radio, three-knob hvac. The way god intended.
@@PrydeWater901 Exactly what my 2017 Impreza has and it's fucking glorious. And Android Auto mostly works (not sure whether it's just Subaru being flaky, or the fact that I'm using a phone basically the same age as the car)
This car isnt for 'jeep guys' at all: its for the girl whose dream car was a wrangler, then find out on the test drive that it handles like shit on-road.
Thats my front door neighbor.
Lol this. atleast it doesnt have the worlds worst suspension issues that are found on wranglers.
The spider on the door trim has a text bubble next to it saying “ Ciao Baby “ Gotta love it😭😂😭😂😭
I got youtube premium a while ago because i was blasted with ads about the ford fecalsport claiming its better than the renegade every five goddamn seconds
I got it because I can turn the screen off and keep listening to podcasts. No ads is great too.
If you have an iPhone, you can use brave. It has adblock, and lets you play videos with the screen off. UI is a bit crap, but I’d rather deal with a worse UI than pay like $20/mo
it's 2024, "we make the free version so shitty it forces people to buy our product" is commonplace and it's very silly
I got it because I had had enough of J Lo interrupting me with her Goli ads, especially when listening to "Elysium/Honor Him/Now We Are Free" from Gladiator.
@@michaeldurrett8388 _laughs in Brave browser_
As a first Gen CRV enthusiast, I felt right at home in the renegade. Really felt like a new and improved version of a 25 years old CRV.
Maybe that's why I was drawn to this car! (I'm the owner.) Growing up my mom had a first gen crv with a manual, and I absolutely loved riding in it. Now that you mentioned it... It does feel extremely similar. Nostalgia is a funny thing. I still have the trunk picnic table.
Minus the whole "reliability" thing
@@liamc9585 Interesting point, i know this is overtalked but you know the B20 engines in the CRV were bulletproof, what your opinion on the 1.4 turbo so far?
@@luisdietsch52 change the oil religiously, but apart from that no issues. They do have a timing belt that should be replaced every 70k miles, but a lot of people have gotten to well past 150k miles on the original belt.
Looks like the description is for a 1991 Lincoln, but the video is for a Renegade
Oof, my bad! Thanks for the heads up!
@@LimitedTimeRoman It was a great video as usual!
@@jrope3991 Thank you! That genuinely makes my day.
My mom is still making payments on her White 2.4 9AT. I was driven to school in this thing as a kid before taking the bus made more sense. The buses bench seats were on par if a tad better than all the seats in her Renegade. I regrettably got my license with this thing, and almost got t-boned by oncoming traffic due to how thick the A pillars are.
The fact this thing had a manual saddens me- they didn't even try to make it usable. I can imagine offloading with it would involve second guessing and hovering over the e-brake constantly considering how little it took to stall. I would have never driven my last three manual cars if the transmission was setup this way.
Good thing you editied the video before blowing through that stop sign. @4:34...😂
A friend of mine has one. Engine light came on, we checked the codes. There were 15 codes, all of them transmission related
They should have bought the 6 speed.
🇮🇹👌
2015 Jeep Renegade: The official car of Craig.... RIP craig.
Lol the description is completely wrong.
EDIT: fixed now, but next upload is apparently a Lincoln Towncar.
Jeep Renegade...the car of OMG ROMAN IS DOING THE SMITHS "ASLEEP" AS THE OUTRO SONG!!! That was a deep cut, Nick. Well done.
Especially since “Renegade” by Styx was RIGHT THERE.
@@marty_mcvader I was actually thinking of using that, but I'm almost positive I already used it for something, even though I can't remember for what.
It's my favorite Smiths song!
I believe there was also a Renegade edition of the Liberty at one point...
It was the off-road trim on the KJ and KK Liberty, with the 3.7L V6 and Command-trac or Selec-Trac depending on the options. I loved mine, and it's the smallest vehicle I've ever owned where I could take a hardhat off while sitting in it, despite the sunroof.
If this didn’t have the Jeep name associated with it, I think it would have been more successful than the scion and the cube
The CarMax 21% interest special
First of all, 10/10 video.
Secondly, on to the subject of the transmission. This is the exact reason that those "Endangered Species" stickers exist. A real perfect storm of pissing in the party's punch. Let's break it down, one-by-one.
-Small displacement engine: Emissions and CAFE regs make tiny engines the way to go. This one is tasked with moving a modern and thus heavy (~3,100 lbs) vehicle. Thus, a turbo has to be introduced to match the engine to the job. Turbos=lag.
-Throttle-by-wire: Emissions require the use of throttle-by-wire to prevent rich spikes which would crank emissions, introducing rev-hang and lag.
-Clutch delay valve: Because companies don't trust people to understand how to be gentle, they expect people to just dump the clutch. If you try to drive the thing how you're supposed to drive a manual, you'll be stacking, you guessed it, more lag.
The result is a manual where you release the clutch slowly, and it still isn't engaged, so you let the rest of the way go. BAM, stalled. Okay, restart. Let's be real gentle this time, and BAM. Still stalled. There isn't enough rotating mass at idle to get this thing going. Let's feed in some throttle, but you didn't account for the rev-hang, and BAM stalled. You have to stack recalibrations on recalibrations.
The best cars disappear before you and do as you request without you even thinking about it. You've got to go on an adventure, Nick. An adventure to a time before those regulations caused these problems.
The automotive company equivalent too taco bell.. Shit gets produced and consumed and shit comes out.
You can delete the clutch delay release valve, and make it feel more normal.
Jeep Renegade: The official car of internally going "but I don't want the guys down at the pickleball court to think I'm not straight"
The only thing Jeep about the Renegade is the stolen identity. The last Real Jeep, IMO, was the Wrangler TJ.
I rented a renegade for a week, it was the cheapest model on the lot. That said it wasnt terrible.
I rented one and the doors felt so cheap, like I could rip one off by hand. I know that’s probably not true but it didn’t have the heft I would’ve wanted. But it got me around Florida for a week fine I guess
My neighbor had one for a few years then one day it disappeared and reappeared then a little while later left on a flat bed.
That's how I felt about the Kia Soul. Previously experienced a rented Mitsubishi Outlander Sport and I hated it.
Roman was in his bag on this one!
this is unironically a great car with the Diesel engine and awd, even though it's a crossover
From another view point, a jeep branded fiat panda isn't the worst idea.
At least in my mind Fiat panda is the reliable(maybe) regular car of humble man, with taller chassis and bigger room and somewhat off-roadable in a compact car.
Outside of fiat-chrysler build quality, it's something that can be respected.
The Fiat Panda is such a great car. If Fiat had the balls of selling it to US and Asia it will cause a riot, but no, Italy has to be represented by the worst reliable products corporate can make I guess... you won't get the Panda, here's another Alfa/Maserati SUV that will brick the moment you'll leave the showroom
This is a size bigger than the Panda, same platform as the Fiat 500X. I think the Panda would sell well in the US as a Jeep but disappear without trace as a Fiat.
Hehehehe panda huehuehuehue, its a souped up doblo underneath
This is the default security vehicle for security guards
The Renegade is an okay car for people that want something charming.... Sue me.
For people who know nothing about cars, sure
@@Jessecwebb You mean... the majority of people?
Jeep Renegade: for when your wife won’t let you get a Wrangler
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I’ve never met a single person who liked their Renegade. Most felt like it was too small (obviously). One person had issues with her 3 year old Renegade breaking down. Lol.
But... if you want a Fiat soft roader the Fiat Panda 4x4 is right there and would probably get you more credibility if you took it on a trail.
I bought my 2019 Mazda3 with the basic packages just because I really enjoyed that all the major controls were buttons and knobs, yet it still had a decent screen and Apple CarPlay at the same time. This is the level of electronics integration I want in my vehicle...and I say that as someone who has worked in technology for almost 30 years now. I live on the bleeding edge of tech, WHERE IT MAKES SENSE. My car's #$%^ing interior isn't one of them.
Renegade...
Official car of "Jeep Girls" who only do missionary.
Bought a lightly used, same-spec 2018 and knew it was important to be in on the joke right away when driving a car that looks like Barbie designed it after dropping a tab of acid. At least the Fiat Renegatto looks better than the 500X, which answers the question “what would snot look like if it were a car?” Also, after 100k miles, no real problems. No one is more surprised than I.
The 500X really is ugly. It looks like a Fiat 500 that ate too much cake, gained a double chin and went up three pants sizes. I saw one the other day and had to do a double take because I utterly forgot they existed.
A coworker has one and ever since they had it. There's more glitter in that oil than the 4th of July.
Jeep renegade, because an Eddie Bauer ad showing a Jeep lifestyle spoke to me 6 years ago. And now I'm apart of that lifestyle and still an idiot.
The refining (or revealing?) of Roman's authorial voice has been one of my favorite things about the recent history of this channel.
Homeschooled college. Lmao.
Aka Phoenix University.
Now review a pair of rubber boots or hip waders.
A trails in the sky reference?!?! Didnt expect that tune
Jeep Renegade: No matter how many times you sell it, you will see that car back at the dealership next month.
I rented one of these for a week. It was comfy and a little nimble on city streets. When I got on it though i could smell the transmission getting too hot. It was the auto
Before watching: The only reason this car exists is so that you can say that you have a Jeep, if it isn't top 3 worst I'd be shocked.
After watching: Welp
I would never own one (because Chrysler), but I've always like the Renegade. It has personality and it's adorable.
The Roman learning to drive stick at 40 in a review car is great
These things were available with a 6MT and an engine similar to the Fiat 500 Abarth, i bet thats a cool combo.
Nah. He says in the review it’s difficult to drive due to the delayed clutch system. Also a lot less aerodynamic than an Abarth.
This is that combo. You could get a Dart the same way, and I drove one for 3 years. The weight sucks all the life out of that little engine
Who else is up, racing their bottoms?
Jeep Renegade: For the people who want to ride the wave of boxy SUVs, but can't afford a Bronco.
I drove a manual Fiat 500x in Italy. It was hateful against other rentals i used in Europe.
Roman rarely hates cars because he likes the people who share them with him. Nothing wrong with that.
12:50 To let my inner pedant out for a minute, Renegade was also use as a trim level for the first-gen Liberty (KJ), and (according to Wikipedia) as a limited edition trim on the second-gen from 2009-2011. So, technically, only a 4 year sabbatical
The Renegade was never made for Jeep Guys. It was made for people who admire Jeep Guys and fantasize about being a Jeep Guy too. Also for the partners of Jeep Guys who want to feel like they're sharing something in common.
Fiat-Chrysler: Have you tried the lasagna? It's my favorite!
I literally bought a 2023 last monday. 13 miles on the odometer and "brand new"..... LOVE IT!!! It was a steal
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Hey if you like it who cares.
I pity you brother.
@christianhighlights4434 why? It has tripple the gas milage of my old vehicle, a 10 year 100,000 mile warranty, has 4wd, and can tow my trailer. It has everything I need. I already have a sports car for "fun". This vehicle is exactly what I will need for snow storms
@@moonscar119I just hope you planning on someone else doing the oil changes, are ready to replace lug bolts and are ready for the engine to develop head issues and major oil leaks around 100,000 miles.
And yikes, your using it to tow?
I helped my (now ex) girlfriend purchase one at a Honda dealership used when we were intending on purchasing a used CRV that was sold 30 minutes before we got there. It has blown every bulb except for headlights at least once, cooling fan failure, and thermostat failure. Not exactly the most intrusive breaks to happen to vehicles, but I definitely wasn't impressed by the 2018 2.4L renegade.
Straight up...I WANT ONE!
Dear god, why?
@@vadim6385Because we don’t get the Fiat Panda 4x4 in the States.
Its cute and capable @@vadim6385
@@vadim6385 small, decent gas mileage, and AWD...And it's CUTE!!
@@marksuave25you won't think it's cute when you start paying for maintence.
This gotta be one of the most fun videos I’ve seen lately.
The Renegade isn't bad, but the prices for them were awful. I swear I saw these going for over $40k during the pandemic.
I considered buying one of these in 2021, I really like the styling. But since I wanted an auto it was only available with the horrible tiger shark engine. So I looked at other similar vehicles and ended up with a Mazda CX-30 turbo. I don't regret it, but the cladding is a bit excessive.
These sold quite well, and I advocated for people to get them because they were just... Good. Not great. But good.
Then in 2018 FCA lost their shit, stopped updating them, started increasing prices of all Jeeps and RAMs to cover for their mistakes with Alfa Romeo and Maserati back home, and when the worst event of 2020 happened suddenly there were Jeep Renegades sitting at $32,000 in packs of fifty on dealership lots when most other manufacturers looked like the Mojave Desert with how empty they were. Inventory was up to two hundred days for Renegades at one point, and with the new Wagoneer and Grand Wagoneer incoming Stellantis dragged them off the lots with a cane hook and sold them to wholesalers.
So suddenly last summer there were a bunch of these 2020 and 2021 models, brand new and unused, showing up in auction houses getting yoinked by used dealers and pumped onto their lots for $15,000. I bet some of them have five grand in mileage from lot ferrying and test drives despite never once being titled.
Americans simply cant understand the Renegade. While it was somewhat of a failure in its self-proclaimed homeland, the US, the goal that then FCA aimed with this vehicle was to hop-in on the global SUV/crossover craze with their specialty brand for this type of vehicle. And for that, you needed 2 things: For one, you needed a car that had the size and feel akin to other European and Asian competitors, without the classic cruise-ship feel that most American cars have and that is not appreciated in other parts of the globe, and 2: you needed to market the brand, for whereas jeep was a common sight on American streets, on most parts of the globe, it was either something Grandpa would talk when discussing wartime or a rare sight of a snob rich person trying to appear American. So, they crafted this: an European car, with European feel and size that markets what Jeep tries to signal with their brand, in order to conquer new markets for the brand. Here in Brazil, despite becoming a meme for "haha not a jeep", it was a major hit, being fir a long time the best selling suv and still figuring among the top sold ones. Hence, it is still being produced, being face-lifted locally in 2022 and probably will keep being produced until emissions laws let them.
My experience with this car is with the 2.4L auto. It was bought by a loved one who was fresh off a mental breakdown and bought brand new when their XJ was not working out anymore, complete with 7 year loan and a horrid interest rate to boot. I've had to pick that person up multiple times because this thing is always having something wrong with it, and eats through consumables like crazy. I see this thing and I can almost taste MLM essential oils. I can almost smell the 15 fast food cups in the passenger floorboard. I've never seen the inside of one of these things clean in the wild. to me, Its just behind the Nissan lineup for bumper car status. Its like a chariot of mental illness, financial illiteracy, self destructive tendencies, and the inability to take accountability (that stationary object always comes out of nowhere).
Its not that this car is inherently worse than every other car out there, I'm sure they are "fine" with decent care. But MAN did they try to steal Nissan's share of horrid drivers and subprime loans.
Another Jeep Renegade fun fact: Initially they had an issue where they were able to do a stoppie and lift the rear wheels off the ground.
That was the best Race to The Bottom ever! P.S. - Is the 1991 Lincoln Mark VII blurb a preview of next week's car? Just curious. If so, I've never seen you guys use this promotional technique before.
Your 3 tier system reminds me of Zero Punctuation’s Top 5 Best, Worst, and Blandest system of ranking games of the year. What you’re getting at isn’t unheard of, for what it’s worth Roman - the car is okay and that’s okay
I was with my uncle for a wedding in utah and he and I got a Jeep renegade for the tental car because it was cheap. The first thing he did was try to adjust the reae view mirror and it just fell off.
I have a customer with one. If the starter goes out? You better be sitting down when the hand you the bill
My girlfriend has a jeep renegade that she loves, and I’m 100% ok with that. She can keep her little cheap and easy to run renegade.
Jeep renegade, the radio screen burned out due to grounding error from factory... still $3200 to fix it all
this thing is a sleeper rally car, especially if you've ever taken it off to the dirt. i bet the manual is even better than the auto i drove in the desert.
We call ours Renny G. And it’s not even a 4x4! 😂
Hello fellow Jeepsters!!!
Before Stellantis, it was steered by Cerberus Capital Management, just as bad.
What is the intro song?
Trails in the sky theme
Jeep Renegade. For the guy that wants the cheapest way to show up to Jeep Fest in Butler
Jeep Renegade: The official car of a band covering a Styx song that has no business covering Styx.
holy crap! i didn't know this about the gearbox when i rented one for a drive to the airport. i thought i was going crazy trying to figure out the gearbox!
I wasn’t expecting a parody of Sleep by The Smiths at the end
nice lincoln mark vii