I live in Chicago, my grandma worked for the spilotro brothers at their restaurant. They paid her really well and she was young at the time. She would always see tony come in and out of the restaurant.
@@deedeeotero4475I’m not too sure, I would have to ask her again. I was at her house for Father’s Day. She lives near river forest though, a lot of mobsters bought their big houses over there
Pretty cool to see Mooney in other locations around the country, did say this would be happening at some point. Great stuff Mooney, you literally have come a long way.
The “Outfit” also took into consideration the desires of the Irish and Jewish mobs. With such differing influences, they weren't “family,” thus “Outfit” worked better. As per Google. Great video
Have camera will travel part 2 - Mooney in Vegas! Great storytelling as always brother. You nailed it on most of the gory details. U flashed Al Capone's picture instead of Giancana. Capone coined the term "Outfit" to describe Chicago's version of Cosa Nostra. By 1979, Giancana had been deceased for 3 + years. Otherwise a totally kick ass dispatch. Keep KILLING it! (metaphorically of course.....😂)
Definitely, as an English man who hasn't visited your shores yet these "boots on the ground" geographical insights work wonderfully well with the countless books and films I've digested over the years and obviously not everything happens in NYC 🗽. Best wishes gents. 🇬🇧👍🇺🇸☘️
@@MOONEYDashCamI'm from England,and no doubt you have heard about the Kray twins and their reputation. But they tried to muscle in on other city patches in Newcastle and Manchester but were sent packing. Something the mainstream fail to mention and film producers who sensationalise things.
Loving the videos took it to vegas good stuff brother from Scotland my sister is an American citizen so I’ve been out a good few times bk out in September can’t wait… keep up the good work bro🏴 🇺🇸
The movie "Casino" did take some liberties with the Spilotro murder scene. The Spilotro Brothers were actually lured to a meeting in a house in Bensenville, Illinois with the promise of a mob promotion for Tony, while Michael was supposed to become a “made” member of the Outfit, but they were subsequentially ambushed and murdered and then buried in a cornfield in Indiana!
Hey, great video. Just to clear things up. In Franks own words "half-load" bullets are normal bullets with a lot of gun powder removed to make less noíce for at hit in a suburb, but the result was that they did not penetrate the skull, so more or less useless. The guy that provided the ammo fucked up.
I was at the house where Frank Cullotta killed Jerry Lisner with Adam Flowers, Frank's tour partner and interviewer. Half loads are cartridges that have been modified by removing some of the gunpowder to make them quieter. The problem is that they are weaker due to less powder. The Outfit did that often. Good video.
Great video Mooney! One problem, you showed the wrong house lol! Frank showed me the house in 2018 when I went on his tour with him. It’s the white house that you see when you first get out of the car, at 10:27. The brick wall you see surrounds the pool they tossed him in. To clarify, you see the tree in the yard, and the short red fence around the property, and the tan brick block wall that surrounds the pool. That’s the right house!! If you’re still in Vegas, go back and film it. Thanks Mooney!
Spil-o-tro is correct. It was a big source of confusion so their dad just went with Spil-ah-tro. I read this in Bill Roemer’s big The Enforcer. Roemer had asked this question to Michael Spilotro.
Wow, another great one, Mooney! I ask myself in each one why in the world does anyone get themselves into this life? In their world, there is no real loyalty
great vid Mooney. I enjoy your videos and the knowledge you share. Hope you keep expanding your horizons and head to some other mob cities like Chicago, Detroit, etc.
Outfit is another word for group, or a party of people, a company. Half loads are just that, half loads…meaning the shell casing is only half full of gun powder so it won’t be as loud but you have to be point blank or dang near point blank to somebody to kill them.
We done mate down in sin city, all the history there with Bugsey Seigal. Frank Cullota was a consultant on the Casino film so remember watching a hit on the film when I was a kid thinking this bloke looks so real he was it was Cullota he was in the film doing a couple of hits think one of the hits he reenacted he was a part of at that the time how weird is that. I hope RUclips are paying you enough with the views to have a proper time in Vegas. You’re the Guvnor !!!’ Have a great time
Thanks for posting a vid of an area that makes sense and looks familiar to me. I guess all of the neighbors were at work or out doing something because, in a neighborhood like that, there's no way that much shooting wouldn't attract attention. As would a guy sitting in a car in the hot sun. One normal shot would probably have been less obvious. Had "Casino" been a Tarentino movie instead of Scorsese there would have been a dark comedy scene of a botched murder and two heavy set Chicago hit men jumping into a pool with the bleeding body of a man they had just killed "to get clean". Good thing that in the desert you'd dry off in a few minutes.
Love the Casino, and Tony and his brother Michael were kill in the basement in Bensenville, Illinois. I live about 5 min were Tony live as a kid, and 10 min from were he and his brother live in Oak Park, Illinois. And about 5 min were Frank went to High School. Basically, I live in Elmwood Park, Illinois were some mobster live. Great video @Mooney
MOONEY have you heard or know about the “Crazy” Sal DeSarno case of him killing a cop and dragging him in Canarsie? Also that was a picture of Al Capone not Sam Giancana
Half loads are not blanks, they are just loaded with half the normal amount of gun powder. They were used due to being quieter than full loads. They didn’t always pack a big enough punch to do the job.
A half load is a bullet that either has half of its gun powder taken out of the shell or all the gun powder taken out of shell Using just the power of the primer to shoot the round
" Half Load " he means back then... they use to take the bullets off / out the casing of a factory loaded round and remove half the gun powder and re-press the bullet back on the casing to " try " and make the gunshot quieter than normal. Used with or without a suppressor ( silencer ) back then. It just makes the round less effective and weaker than normal power. Not a good technique.
Half load, its just half the amount of gun powder in the bullets casing. If that bullet normally moves 1200 ft a second, now it'll only move 600 ft a second.. the benefit? In theory it should be much more quiet.
The Spillotro brothers were friends with actor Larry Manetti , Tony’s younger brother appeared on the TV series Magnum PI .. many people don’t know this
Pretty sure half load bullets are sub-sonic, they have less powder so the projectile travels slower, less force, less velocity, .22 is a small round. Half load bullets are also much quieter, ideal for hunting less chance of scaring off the prey, or in a different setting, less chance of allerting witnesses.
I think the term “outfit” is a spin-off of the term “zoot suit” which is in reference to the snappy pin striped patterned suits and hats the mobsters of the early ‘30’s wore! 🤔
Half load in reference to the amount of powder in the shell. Makes less noise, still lethal at his preferred range. They were custom/hand loaded by someone.
half loads would probably be half the grains of gun powder. like if a bullet needed 30 "grains" they only have 15. they probably did this to make the gun quiet but still lethal
Half loads are subsonic and therefore do not make such a loud boom. Combine that with a weak weapon (to begin with) and you have an effective weapon of torture.
You’ve got to holler at your boy when you’re in Vegas . 😁 I can show you all around the city I’ve been in the Casino house before , a couple times . The original owner is cool af I don’t know if he still alive because it’s been almost 20 years ago. His wife was really ill at the time and he was still super gracious and took me on a tour all around the house, two times , I had to do some repairs on his pool one time and then on his neighbors and both times he talked to me and was so cool ,such a nice guy I actually feel kind of bad that I haven’t ever gone back just to keep up with him, that’s how cool He was/is . I hope He’s doing good
It's been the outfit since capone. My understanding is it was slang that stuck. Example. I'm with capones outfit. Again, this is just my understanding.
I live in Chicago, my grandma worked for the spilotro brothers at their restaurant. They paid her really well and she was young at the time. She would always see tony come in and out of the restaurant.
Which restaurant was that?
That’s super interesting
@@deedeeotero4475I’m not too sure, I would have to ask her again. I was at her house for Father’s Day. She lives near river forest though, a lot of mobsters bought their big houses over there
@@JK-fx3vk yes I know.
Lived in Oak Park a long time, not too far from Momo’s house.
Tony Spilotro was born in 39 he would have been 84 today is that your granny s age?
Btw they weren’t blanks. They were bullets filled only halfway with gun powder to make it less noisy, which in turn made it less effective
Pretty cool to see Mooney in other locations around the country, did say this would be happening at some point. Great stuff Mooney, you literally have come a long way.
“Half loads” he was referring to were probably subsonic .22 rounds. They have less powder in them and the are quieter than full power rounds.
Okay that makes much more sense
No they weren't manufactured subs ..they literally took half the powder out to make less noise was the thinking .. Dumb ides
Mooney traveling traveling all over the US OF A to bring us well researched stories. Thank you!
I assume you knew you posted a picture of Ale Capone rather than Sam Giacana
Damn that’s what I get for editing late at night
You beat me to it,I thought I was going crazy. Brandon you better get out of the sun!
Yeah man major gaff.
Did you drive from jersey to Vegas??
Lol
These out of town videos really cool. It's nice of you to bring us videos while your out of town on business or vacation.
It may have made my trip a little bit less relaxing but it was well worth it
The “Outfit” also took into consideration the desires of the Irish and Jewish mobs. With such differing influences, they weren't “family,” thus “Outfit” worked better.
As per Google.
Great video
Thanks for that, I caught myself wondering about it but never looked it up
Have camera will travel part 2 - Mooney in Vegas! Great storytelling as always brother. You nailed it on most of the gory details. U flashed Al Capone's picture instead of Giancana. Capone coined the term "Outfit" to describe Chicago's version of Cosa Nostra. By 1979, Giancana had been deceased for 3 + years. Otherwise a totally kick ass dispatch. Keep KILLING it! (metaphorically of course.....😂)
Appreciate the work you put in. Do like that you are branching out to other locations around the country. Top guy
Thank you for that I appreciate it
Definitely, as an English man who hasn't visited your shores yet these "boots on the ground" geographical insights work wonderfully well with the countless books and films I've digested over the years and obviously not everything happens in NYC 🗽. Best wishes gents. 🇬🇧👍🇺🇸☘️
Love the new locations mooney dashcam keep up the good work 👏
@@MOONEYDashCamI'm from England,and no doubt you have heard about the Kray twins and their reputation. But they tried to muscle in on other city patches in Newcastle and Manchester but were sent packing. Something the mainstream fail to mention and film producers who sensationalise things.
Keep up the good work.
Thanks for another great story, Mooney. Appreciate the drive around Vegas, too!
Thank you gene
I love all the behind the scenes here. Was just watching Casino last week. Enjoyed the Frank coverage too. Keep up the awesome work 👍🩷
Thank you
Loving the videos took it to vegas good stuff brother from Scotland my sister is an American citizen so I’ve been out a good few times bk out in September can’t wait… keep up the good work bro🏴 🇺🇸
The movie "Casino" did take some liberties with the Spilotro murder scene. The Spilotro Brothers were actually lured to a meeting in a house in Bensenville, Illinois with the promise of a mob promotion for Tony, while Michael was supposed to become a “made” member of the Outfit, but they were subsequentially ambushed and murdered and then buried in a cornfield in Indiana!
That’s always how they do these things. Pesci can’t get a break he’s always “about” to get made in these movies lol
@@MOONEYDashCam Yeah, the same thing happened to him in "Goodfellas", now that you mention it!
Correct. They weren't killed in that cornfield. They were killed in that basement, though still beaten to death as depicted in the film also.
@@MOONEYDashCam😄
The part where in Casino where Tony stabs a guy with a pen in the neck happened at a carwash on Harlem Ave in Oak Park or Chicago.
Its nice to finally do a show on the Chicago outfit, well done
I’ll make my way to Chicago one day
Cool, let me know if and when your in town. I can help you with a Chicago outfit tour. I used to go to all the major mob trials in Chicago!
While you are in LVNV, do you have time to do a story about the body being found in a barrel in a dried up part of Lake Meade?
I didn’t have time to unfortunately but maybe next time
Excellent video! Love the Las Vegas edge
It’s definitely a change of scenery
Hey, great video. Just to clear things up. In Franks own words "half-load" bullets are normal bullets with a lot of gun powder removed to make less noíce for at hit in a suburb, but the result was that they did not penetrate the skull, so more or less useless. The guy that provided the ammo fucked up.
Mooney! Thanks bro! You always cover interesting and worthy mob stories! Great content and A+ on your homework!
I try my best to only bring you guys the best
@@MOONEYDashCam you do a hell of a job!
I was at the house where Frank Cullotta killed Jerry Lisner with Adam Flowers, Frank's tour partner and interviewer. Half loads are cartridges that have been modified by removing some of the gunpowder to make them quieter. The problem is that they are weaker due to less powder. The Outfit did that often. Good video.
Very good comment. Definitely done your homework. Those "half loads" are the reason the Ken Eto hit was botched.
I hope truck isn't the jealous type
Great video Mooney! One problem, you showed the wrong house lol! Frank showed me the house in 2018 when I went on his tour with him. It’s the white house that you see when you first get out of the car, at 10:27. The brick wall you see surrounds the pool they tossed him in. To clarify, you see the tree in the yard, and the short red fence around the property, and the tan brick block wall that surrounds the pool. That’s the right house!! If you’re still in Vegas, go back and film it. Thanks Mooney!
“At night, you couldn’t see the desert that surrounds Las Vegas. But it’s in the desert where lots of the town’s problems are solved.”
Pronounced "Spil-AH-tro", not "Spil-OH-tro". Also, the Chicago mafia was called "the outfit". That was literally what it was referred to as.
This "Spil-low-tro" thing is driving me nuts! Come on! Spil-Lot-tro!
Yes! We all know it was called the outfit! but thanks anyway!
@@tugboat25IM SO GLAD IT WAS NOT JUST ME!!! Hahaha
Spil-o-tro is correct. It was a big source of confusion so their dad just went with Spil-ah-tro. I read this in Bill Roemer’s big The Enforcer. Roemer had asked this question to Michael Spilotro.
I like these vacation videos! Good job Mooney.
Thank you!
I just found your videos. I'm binging on them all afternoon. Great content.
I love that thank you
Really enjoying the Las Vegas stories, Thanks!
I enjoyed making them so I’m glad you’re liking them
Wow, another great one, Mooney! I ask myself in each one why in the world does anyone get themselves into this life? In their world, there is no real loyalty
It seems like a life of honor power and glory but in reality most of the time it’s guys that can’t really make it any other way
Never ends well does it?
beats a 9 ta 5
@@richardmorris6365prison or grave. You are right
@@NEUTRALDROP No it doesn't, especially if you enjoy what you do.
That picture of Sam Giancana at 6:24 is actually Al Capone.
Great video!
Yeah my mistake. Thank you!
@@MOONEYDashCam I thought it might be an intentional Easter egg.
Hey Mooney! Awesome video as always! Great info on all of this. Keep up the good work, and thanks!
Hey, thanks!
Great video brother keep Killin the game..
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great vid Mooney. I enjoy your videos and the knowledge you share. Hope you keep expanding your horizons and head to some other mob cities like Chicago, Detroit, etc.
Darn, thought you had ghosted on us,glad to see ya
Never
Outfit is another word for group, or a party of people, a company. Half loads are just that, half loads…meaning the shell casing is only half full of gun powder so it won’t be as loud but you have to be point blank or dang near point blank to somebody to kill them.
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That’s cool you’re in Vegas… Will you be investigating the bodies found in lake Mead?
@Mooney hows the drivers in Vegas, compared to back home?…
They seemed pretty tame it was way more relaxed driving there
Good one Mooney, everybody is familiar with this from the movie Casino. Nice work!
It’s a great movie everyone should be familiar
That house is literally a stones throw from Red Fox's house on Eastern.
❤❤❤ these stories from Vegas! Mooney, you need your own show!
Thanks a ton Mooney - great video! How long were you in Vegas! Really missing the Truck!
I was there for 5 days I missed the truck too
Mooney great job but @6:20 that's not Sam Giancana that's Al Capone.
You barley stoped at the stop sign ... lol
That’s nothing new for me
Barely
We done mate down in sin city, all the history there with Bugsey Seigal. Frank Cullota was a consultant on the Casino film so remember watching a hit on the film when I was a kid thinking this bloke looks so real he was it was Cullota he was in the film doing a couple of hits think one of the hits he reenacted he was a part of at that the time how weird is that.
I hope RUclips are paying you enough with the views to have a proper time in Vegas. You’re the Guvnor !!!’ Have a great time
Haha I had a good time that’s one thing you don’t have to worry about
Thank you Mooney for this video
Thank you for watching this video
Another superb video Mooney 😊😊
I appreciate you
How you liking Vegas, Mooney? Thanks for another great video
Vegas is nice I like the weather and the food
friggin awesome vid. these guys would kill as casually as they would ordera cup of coffee. love the traveling mooney dashcam vids👍
The way he explains it is crazy
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as detached as someone explaining a minor fender bender
Keep them coming Mooney
So crazy I don't know how you could trust anyone of these guy's no way you would have to be a fool to go near anyone like this
Half loads aren't blanks the rounds are just emptied out half it's gun powder. Typically to be more quiet
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I really enjoy your channel. Appreciate you sir 👊
Another good one Mooney 👍🤝
“Half Loads” is when the person removes half of the original gun powder. It makes the bullet a lot weaker, but reduces the noise greatly as well.
Mooney still in Vegas? What's Mooney been doing at night, outside of all this? Do they still have ESCORT menus on the hotel room nightstands?
Lol
Al scarface Giaccana 😂 great video Mooney 👍🛻
😂😂
Thanks for posting a vid of an area that makes sense and looks familiar to me. I guess all of the neighbors were at work or out doing something because, in a neighborhood like that, there's no way that much shooting wouldn't attract attention. As would a guy sitting in a car in the hot sun. One normal shot would probably have been less obvious.
Had "Casino" been a Tarentino movie instead of Scorsese there would have been a dark comedy scene of a botched murder and two heavy set Chicago hit men jumping into a pool with the bleeding body of a man they had just killed "to get clean". Good thing that in the desert you'd dry off in a few minutes.
Should be a requirement that a person watch Casino before becoming a Mooney subscriber.
I would assume he's saying his bullets are reloads and low grain!
Love the Casino, and Tony and his brother Michael were kill in the basement in Bensenville, Illinois. I live about 5 min were Tony live as a kid, and 10 min from were he and his brother live in Oak Park, Illinois. And about 5 min were Frank went to High School. Basically, I live in Elmwood Park, Illinois were some mobster live. Great video @Mooney
I love the insight
@MOONEYDashCam , my grandpa is buried at the same Cemetery as AL Capone, and across the street were Anthony and his brother Michael is buried.
MOONEY have you heard or know about the “Crazy” Sal DeSarno case of him killing a cop and dragging him in Canarsie? Also that was a picture of Al Capone not Sam Giancana
I have heard about it but not in detail
Just a heads up, your pronouncing Tony’s last name wrong, but cool video brother 👍🏼 it’s pronounced Spill ah tro
I’ll never be able to pronounce these names lol
@@MOONEYDashCam lol it’s all good, just figured I give you a heads up, because I’ve heard it always pronounced the one way, not a big deal though 😆
Just because there is no better than this. Drive Safe. (But a total loss on that GMC rental thing not so much a problem.)
The king rob
@@MOONEYDashCam What can i say? I try man! Thanks though Mooney. 👍
Half loads are not blanks, they are just loaded with half the normal amount of gun powder. They were used due to being quieter than full loads. They didn’t always pack a big enough punch to do the job.
A half load is a bullet that either has half of its gun powder taken out of the shell or all the gun powder taken out of shell Using just the power of the primer to shoot the round
Got it
Great job I love the way Frank talked old school great job
Franks accent adds to the story for sure
That's Al Capone's picture you put up....
Looks like he’s got lipstick on! Lol
Yeah my mistake
@MOONEYDashCam no more of those 714 Lemmons for you Mooney!😅
Great video!
Are half loads when there is less gunpowder??
Yes but when I looked it up the only think that came up were blanks
NO BS - i met tony spilotro in the mid 80,s - at the time i had no idea who he was.
Hey Mooney, you changed your car ?😉👍
" Half Load " he means back then... they use to take the bullets off / out the casing of a factory loaded round and remove half the gun powder and re-press the bullet back on the casing to " try " and make the gunshot quieter than normal. Used with or without a suppressor ( silencer ) back then. It just makes the round less effective and weaker than normal power. Not a good technique.
Yeah he had to unload 2 times to to get the job done so I guess it was a bad idea looking back
Tony The Ant, hands down my favourite mobster of all time, great video 👏👏
Great video. I gotta say, it really makes me wonder who my neighbors are so I have become a nicer neighbor cuz ya never know
Awesome video great content 👍
Thank you🫡
Half load is when you reload them with half the powder. Less noise, and helps with over penetration.
Unfortunately I’m so old the only thing I can shoot are half loads
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Half load, its just half the amount of gun powder in the bullets casing. If that bullet normally moves 1200 ft a second, now it'll only move 600 ft a second.. the benefit? In theory it should be much more quiet.
Ooo okay got it I knew someone would have the answer
How did you find all this information about him? Was this in the movie Casino?
LETS FLIP THIS AROUND AND GET INTO IT
We need Las Vegas' road construction and asphalt crew in our city. Every street there is pristine.
Exactly but they don’t get snow
@@MOONEYDashCam This is true. The wild temperature variations wreak havoc on roads in the north. Still, we can dream. :)
The Spillotro brothers were friends with actor Larry Manetti , Tony’s younger brother appeared on the TV series Magnum PI .. many people don’t know this
Hi Mr 🛻's distant cousin, Hi 🌛 Mooney The Cam.
Great one. as usual.
Pretty sure half load bullets are sub-sonic, they have less powder so the projectile travels slower, less force, less velocity, .22 is a small round. Half load bullets are also much quieter, ideal for hunting less chance of scaring off the prey, or in a different setting, less chance of allerting witnesses.
I always got a kick out of the fact an informants name was “Jerry Listener” lmao
Kind of crazy how life works out
Half loads are not blanks it is just taking some powder out to slow down the load to do more damage
I think the term “outfit” is a spin-off of the term “zoot suit” which is in reference to the snappy pin striped patterned suits and hats the mobsters of the early ‘30’s wore! 🤔
Mooney great vlogs ...love Vegas ,,,sure bits NY concrete jungle lol
Back in their day, the term "outfit" was a euphemism for a group, branch, organization/company, ie, Walmart is an American big box outfit.
Half loads are bullets loaded with half the powder therefore making less noise and powder residue.
Half load in reference to the amount of powder in the shell. Makes less noise, still lethal at his preferred range. They were custom/hand loaded by someone.
Good one!
Thank you!!
Half loads means they only put half as many grains of powder in the bullet shell. That means they aren’t as powerful or as loud.
Where are new videos? They are all at least 10 months old?
half loads would probably be half the grains of gun powder. like if a bullet needed 30 "grains" they only have 15. they probably did this to make the gun quiet but still lethal
Half loads are subsonic and therefore do not make such a loud boom. Combine that with a weak weapon (to begin with) and you have an effective weapon of torture.
Loved it
Thank you!
Did you stop your RUclips page?
You’ve got to holler at your boy when you’re in Vegas . 😁
I can show you all around the city
I’ve been in the Casino house before , a couple times .
The original owner is cool af
I don’t know if he still alive because it’s been almost 20 years ago.
His wife was really ill at the time and he was still super gracious and took me on a tour all around the house, two times , I had to do some repairs on his pool one time and then on his neighbors and both times he talked to me and was so cool ,such a nice guy
I actually feel kind of bad that I haven’t ever gone back just to keep up with him, that’s how cool He was/is .
I hope He’s doing good
Thanks for this. This is awesome. Almost better than the movie :-)
It's been the outfit since capone. My understanding is it was slang that stuck.
Example. I'm with capones outfit.
Again, this is just my understanding.
exactly you nailed it