£1 ($1.37) IBM Server - Ebay Finds
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- Опубликовано: 3 окт 2024
- In this video we take a look at a recent eBay find of an entire server for just £1 (Excluding P&P).
Let's take a look at what we've bought and find out a bit more about it. 
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I'll give you £0.80 for it (is is now more used, after all).
I'll give him 200
@Dakota Butler ill give him 400!
2 sausages and a cup of mayonnase
I'll give him 0.01 and a large Frozen Coke
Congratulations on 1k Subs mate. Lets hope this video keeeps blowing up!
Almost 2k now
@@BigRhys02 2120 now
I brought a cheap HP server with 32 cores and 32gb ram and installed windows 10 pro into it without problems... using mine as a gaming rig :)
im actually thinking of doing something like that, was gpu support on the motherboard good?
@@timrattenbury4768 running just a NVIDIA Quadro k600 at the moment, as the server I have is a HP Proliant DL385 G7 only cost me £120 including postage from Ebay
@TsiG I brought it as buy it now, think the seller still has a few left..
@TsiG mine has the 2x AMD 6282 Se 16 core
Mad man
I used to work for a hosting company and we pretty much ended up chucking out (well, recycling) 5 year old Dell servers, once they had broken even and paid for themselves. The problem was that it would cost more in space and power to run them compared to newer, more powerful machines, and would cost more in man-hours and hassle than their value to list them on eBay. That might explain the scarcity of affordable servers on the used market.
It's not a big found, the big surprise it that this goes on EBay, usually the data center keeps them and recyclers can pick up for free and they put them up on EBay but with a huge profit.
There are a lot of companies where their method for removing servers falls under two categories: scrap or scrap for e-waste. Or at least this is the case with where I work. Scrap means that it may be getting tossed into a recycling plant further down the line, or it could be parted out or resold. We basically sell it to a third party for bulk scrap pricing, so they get to handle determining its final outcome. For servers that the third party doesn't want, or which we have found faults in that would make it non-viable, they get scrapped for e-waste and sent straight to a processing facility for such. We still have a lot of things leaving the building that I wish had be re-assigned to another development group instead, but at least the majority of it won't end up in a landfill.
What a waste...
I think you will find that there are brokers who buy up used servers in bulk including removal and such, saving the company running the servers, a lot of money.
The issue isn't so much the server itself, its the drives. Almost every place is going to require the drives be "wiped", and for busy admins its far easier to run a drill bit, than do a 7 wipe.
So that's what they've been running rocket league on for all these years
Thank You for the shout out! What an AWESOME Server :-)
hmmm would make a decent dedicated server for space engineers........... to the bay!
Eh I highly doubt it
@@pistonsjem why?
Adjust your frame rate on the camera it should stop the lights flickering
Or adjust the LED light frequency ;)
Yes this is what i was thinking: If your Power grid runs on 50 Hz set your Camera to pal and choose a Shuterspeed that is a multiple of 25 (50,100,200,...)
yea it should be 50fps instead of 60
Was going to say "Stop complaining about your superior 50hz lighting." But I found this comment.
Definitely something I'm looking into, unfortunately I only have my iPhone for recording so I'll have to see if there's a better camera app available that supports changing the shutter speed until I can afford a proper camera. Thanks for the advice :)
The flicker may be caused by camera and mains 50/60Hz mismatch. If you're in UK, set the camera to 50Hz anti-flicker.
how exactly did you find this for $1.37? teach me the ways
Just search for auctions ending soon + some people don't title their auctions particularly well and will put only the exact model number of what they're selling rather than generic terms that most people would be searching for, so very few people who'd actually be interested end up seeing the auction in the first place.
It works best on particularly obscure things
I was a solid 12 minutes in until I realized this is not RandomGamingInHD...
Hah hah, I recognized the front of that machine before you even mentioned the model! I have pretty much the exact same machine, but with 64GB. of RAM and 8 x 600GB. SAS drives. I initially paid a little bit more for mine ($179 US), but it already had 32GB of RAM and 2 x 146GB SAS drives. You can find parts pretty much anywhere for them (cheap), and they're pretty much bulletproof and relatively quiet once they get through the initial startup. I think the stock RAID card is a ServeRaid 5150. I'm currently using mine as a Plex Media Server running on Ubuntu 20.04 LTS Server, plus it acts as a web server for some financial apps and a phpBB forum that I'm playing with. Great machines and fairly easy to set up. I have the IMM tied into my LAN so I can access it with a web browser and start or stop it at will without actually having to go to my little server/radio room.😉
Sounds like quite a good setup. If I had more spare parts I'd likely fill this up and possibly use it for a project or testing in future. I think it'll need some newer CPU's though and possibly a better GPU if I can find an x16 riser online that's not too expensive.
Ubuntu is rock solid for that sort of stuff, have you containerised any of it with docker/snaps?
These are nice servers. Just sold my X3650 M3 as I got started with it but have several M4 and an M5
I work with M4's, still today, they're not bad.
That is quite alot of packing for a cheap IBM1015! Awesome machine for the price 😁
I wonder if the packaging was more than the cost of the sale
Yeah, I've seen these as well in this price bracket and the shipping comes out to about $52.00 U.S. dollars.
£1 to buy, a fiver a day on electric.
They're actually perfect for rooms that also need heating.
@@BenjaminRonlund Yeah, besides the awful noise. Servers are real noisy beasts.
I'm sure you have been told this already but all you need to do to remove the flickering is switch the camera to 25 or 50fps to match the UK AC frequency of 50hz
It's not that simple. The only real solution is to get better LED's. Quality ones will not flicker at all. It's just something cheap ones so to avoid properly rectifying etc the AC.
You need to change the anti-flicker settings in your camera to 50hrz due to the power frequency we use in the UK. It is more common to see this with the leds
Not sure it applies with LEDs, those flicker at higher than 50hz
We saw its got virtualization when you were in the setup, so I'd be tempted to install Xen and then have domains for all the x86 operating systems imaginable. With all those cores and filling up the RAM slots you'd get reasonable performance on each.
Or install Qubes (which includes Xen and a Fedora based management domain) as a quick way of deploying a Xen-based system which would also offer above average security.
To my mind that's what a box like this cries out for...
By the way, it's straightforward to use Win 10 on a user domain within either Xen or Qubes: which is arguably more secure than running win 10 more conventionally.
I used a DL580 Gen 5 with 64 Gigs of RAM and 4 x 6 Core (24 cores) Xeon CPUs for a while for virtual machines. It's fun, until you see the power bill.
Thing slurped 700 Watts at Idle. I decommisioned it before my GF killed me, and tbh, I also thought it was a bit much..
I think the flickering problem is due to pulse with modulation, the way modern LED lights reduce power output instead of modifying the current directly. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pulse-width_modulation#Duty_cycle
the flicker can be solved by changing the fps you record in
little did you know his camera was also 1 usd
I would make a max upgrade video, that would be really cool
I'll certainly look into it! Parts for these seem fairly cheap except the RAM. I'll have to see if I can locate an X16 riser card for it too.
@@CobsTech great video btw!
@@CobsTech Unfortunately, there's not a particularly large amount of upward mobility with the specs of these servers, since the best processor you can get for it is an Intel Xeon X5690 6C @ 3.46GHz, and a maximum memory capacity of 288GB of RAM utilizing dual-rank 16GB PC3L-10600 LP-RDIMMs. Seems like a lot of effort to go to when you could pick up an IBM x3690 x5 on the LGA1567 platform where your highest tier processor can have 10 cores instead, and they're fairly inexpensive to pick up even in the US.
To correct the flickering you need to change the shutter speed of your cam and eventually change pal/ntsc depending on the power frequency in the UK
The LED lights you installed are not on all the time. They actually run on a clock at a certain frequency. Your camera shutter speed is close to the same frequency as the lights. That’s why you get the “strobe” effect. None the less, wonderful video
I got a similar model (without its original panel) as I can use it for my upcoming computer lab and is my personal storage server too. Model is System X3550 M3.
Congrats on 1k subs!
I remember when i bought a Qnap TS-251+ off amazon during a black friday sale a good few years back. Even though I have used ebay to buy lots of computer related stuff (im quite computer literate!) the idea never crossed my mind to pick up an older decommissioned/refurbished server unit from there.... I could have made quite a substantial saving! I remember i was looking at secondhand HP Proliant servers on ebay too! I have no idea why i never went for one in the end but i think it was something to do with the prices at the time. the cost difference between the proliant and Qnap were about the same.
In any case, the TS-251+ is still going strong (i think i bought it 3 years ago???)
I dare you to buy a SunFire SPARC server.
I got an Sun T3-2 for basically the price of the memory modules inside 😁
I have one as a table stand 😂
@@ArrAnheAton does it work? or dead server?
Nice find! I won an IBM X3550 M2 in Nov lockdown for £22! Slightly older model but 1U - 1 x E5540 2.5Ghz and 16GB RAM. I had 4 x 2.5 drives from laptop SSD upgrades, bought a 2nd CPU & Heatsink for £10 and is now running a home AdGuard + Home Assistant + OwnCloud server.
And now found your earlier video on this very server! (Had a day of toil and trouble today trying to upgrade/access/fix the IMM)
I would absolutely snatch one of these but I have nowhere to put it
same here.
Trust me, you find the space.
I'm using a laundry folding table for my x3650-rebrand.
me too, but i like life lol (wife says i have enough computers lol)
I'd just run ethernet to the kitchen and put it on a cupboard. Only place where the noise wouldn't be noticeable.
@@lillywho see the thing is I'm a 16 year old who lives in a full house lmfao, literally nowhere to put it
film at a multiple of 25 fps... that will help with the flicker, led lights are only on when voltage is high, i.e half the waveform of 240v @50hz.
I bought a dell poweredge r810 with 4 xeon E7 8837's for 89,99 pounds. I thought it was a steal until I got hit with another 86 ish pound fee when it passed through customs. Buying stuff from the UK became a lot more expensive when they left the EU.
That's pretty solid to be fair. I've got 3 IBM X3850 X5's which use the same processors. Upgrade them to the 10 core 20 thread E7-8870's and you've got yourself a cheap 40 core, 80 thread beast. I used mine for a fair amount of blender rendering and mass virtualisation.
Fee's tend to be a lot shipping those due to the size and weight.
@@CobsTech Cool, I considered buying some of those 10 core cpu's. But I'm mostly running servers for games with low requirements, like minecraft. They usually prefer raw clock speed over thread count.
The 8837's go up to 2,799 GHz on all cores while the 8870's only go up to 2,533 GHz if im not mistaken.
But having 40 cores and 80 threads probably comes with some bragging rights though.
Not everyone can say their pc draws over 500 Watts in just cpu power on full load either.
The light flickering might have something to do with the AC frequency?
It's a good time to buy off eBay in the UK. Lockdown is making people very careful with money. Making it a buyer's market. I've got/seen things for half or less of the usual price in the last few weeks.
The UK was awesome for servers before Brexit. I purchased an R710 with 12 cores and 48 GB of RAM for little over 200 GBP about 2 years ago. With 6 caddies and 2 1100W PSU's included.
I dunno, but that server looks more like 50 pounds.
Sad part is local scrap yards here in MD get tons of newer servers (pretty much by the pallet), but they won't resell them even without hard drives. I've seen some of them less than a year or two old. Sad to see all those goodies go to waste.
Your LEDs are using PWM to control brightness. The brighter they are, the less chopped up their signal is. You should be able to change the framerate of your video recordings to help with that.
I run off lease dell poweredge servers at my business I'm the US. Baffles my mind how powerful a machine I can buy for so little.
24:35 "Begs the question why anyone would need one of these these days":
Which might in turn explain why you weren't out bid on EBay.
Good servers. I work for the largest USA bank here in the UK, and we have around 1,700 of these 3650 M3's in service in the DC's here.
1,700?! That's crazy! Awesome to see that these old beasts are still in use though.
@@CobsTech Thats just the 1 DC across 3 halls. Keeps me busy !. About 12 PSU's and 35 hard drives a week.
@@dj_paultuk7052 that's what you get when you divide a comfortable MTBF by 1700 :)
Plot twist: Spyware ...
£1 is less than coke?
Bro who's your dealer?
Match the shutter speed or frames per second to the refresh rate of your lights which is usually 50 in the UK or as a multiple of and then nobody gets an epileptic fit from flashing ty. The reason it changes if you focus or raise your light level is BC your probably shooting vid on auto so it will be changing the shutter speed of your cam to balance it. Move to manual and set to 50, 100 or 150 and so on or alternatively PAL should work
i got a dell poweredge c1100 for only 50$ canadian or about 32 pounds! it also came with 2x500gb WD Black drives
Broadcom NetXtreme II series of adapters and especially BCM5709 are plagued with problems. I have SystemX 3650 M2 model - which is the older brother of the one in the video and my Linux system is experiencing intermittent NIC Copper link down messages. Turns out its a NIC driver problem. I hyad to manually load the network driver with parameters to solve the issue.
Sweet. Inspiring, too. To think it's just 10 years old and would end up in a landfill... All those sweet sweet MIPS :D
Well, they wouldn't end up in landfill - they have to go either to the second user market, spares/parts or WEEE recycling.
This will just be something an outside management company wasn’t assed about anymore, that a customer had no need to keep.
Well in on the find.
Very interesting! I need to dig out my Acorn Filestore 😳 one day
I really wish I could get hold of a server again as I really need to start testing things again
Check Amazon, as they've been selling some decommissioned servers for pretty reasonable pricing. Not sure if it's directly from Amazon or handled by a 3rd party, but they had some HP Gen8 servers for pretty reasonable prices the other day.
HP is power hog
Not to mention how loud it is idling
You touch any amount of processing and it takes off
I have Dell PowerEdge R715 and R815
Compared to HP DL385 G7 both of my dell servers are extremely quiet and actually they are quieter on max power then HP DL385 G7 idling, same goes to power.
Idling R715 is around 140W with 128GB and 6180SE
I wouldn't touch HP with a stick not mention running it
On the camera problem, you have to sincronyze the refersh rate of the camera with the refresh rate of the lights.
I got you beat, I got a HP proliant DL380 G7 for 0.15£ (2skr) on a online auktion and I got lucky that a friend would transport it to me free of charge (i´ll still pay a bit to my friend for good form) I hope to learn how to manage my own server and how to set it up. I believe a server works just like a pc, I guess I´m about to find out. Do you know if a server have a "C:" drive separate from the storage drives where I install the server os? There are a sd card slot and a usb port in it are one of them the place for the os?
Pretty interesting vid, congrats for this find:) But please change your flickering light fixtures, they were a bit irritating
Enterprise hardware is always cheap used. It was used up for its service life. Doesn’t mean it can’t be refreshed and put back to work but you are going to put new storage, new ram and new power supply to get another 4 years of service. So for half new price basically..
These were good machines at this point. The management hardware was spotty though If I remember correctly
Looking for a high-end refurb machines Servers/storage’s/hard disk/processor for a animation company in India .
Could you please guide me on this
1 stickof RAM just doesn't look right :p
Can you give us a video about how you use your Microsoft Surface Pro in your workflow? :) I love to work with thin clients in combination of servers :)
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Nice find
funny how the same server has the same issues with the NICs over here
Servers become outdated these days, because they are to energy hungry. In a private environment i would suggest something, that is in a range of 30-40W for a fileserver or NAS. For playing arround, its a fun project but give you a favour and shut it down after that.
This is true, older 1366 stuff generally does hog a bit more power. This server though I only picked up for the price and it's sat mostly unusued in the rack since minus a few projects.
The current servers I run are a lot more power efficient, those being IBM/Lenovo X3850 X6's, tend to hang around 80-120watts each with 120 vm's running between the two.
Nice server. I'd max out memory and use it for virtual machines.
With a hidden cable running from the street lamp that was conveniently placed right outside your front door....
Joe balls
It's the frame rate you are recording in. Enjoied the video.
great price for the mighty x3650
what a score mate Still looks pretty good I wonder how good it renders videos in pinnacle studio 20
£1 plus shipping to take our trash, a deal like this won't last...
Too bad the shipping to alaska would be in the hundred probably
Is your (or whoever's) Discord server private, or is it public for anyone to join? If it's public, do you have a link to it anywhere?
I don't have a personal Discord server however I can be found in the Budget Builds Official and OzTalksHW discord servers :)
I recently got a cisco ucs c series for free off the side of the road, 4x 2TB raid 5
Crazy to think people would throw out something like that! What model is it?
Out of curiosity, is this powerpc architecture or x86? I know IBM still does a lot of powerpc stuff.
EDIT: The extent of my knowledge is building gaming PC's and workstations for people for fun. I dont actually know how PCI express or how RAM would interface with another architecture because my knowledge of computers isnt that deep. If someone would be willing to tell me, Id be happy to know. Thanks!
The server in this video is an M3 model which is when IBM were still doing x86 servers. After the M4 series, Lenovo took over the x86 side of 'consumer' servers and IBM just stuck with the PowerPC servers. Both are still common in datacenters however the PowerPC ones are a lot more expensive.
Both x86 and PPC interface with PCIe or RAM in very similar ways, however from what I've experienced with my own Power 550, it seems most PCIe cards will need some form of 'legacy' support, that being cards that are not locked with UEFI only VBioses like more modern GPUs. I may do a video on mine at some point, I need to buy rails for it first.
@@CobsTech Absolutely excellent comment. Answers all of my questions. Thank you, and I hope to see that video soon!
Or you could buy brand name parts from a reputable parts shop.
The flickering is because your camera is running 60fps whereas your lights are flickering at 50Hz - change the FPS on your camera to 50fps
Excellent, Dell Precision Tower 5810 12C E5-2687W V4 3GHz 64GB Ram Quadro M4000 Workstation. I can buy this for $200 as a gaming rig. Have not decided yet
Could do with a server like this for hosting stuff
nice vapor dude
It's interesting that you would set the priority on Cinebench = realtime because unless you are planning on doing that with most tasks that you are going to be running, it probably won't really be necessarily representative of the rest of whatever workloads you might put on said server.
has anyone or do you know anyone who runs a DAW (music production softwares such as ableton, cubase or fruity loops) on Windows Server OS?
No, that's something you wouldn't run on a Server - much better to spend the money and run all music software on Apple Mac, as it was intended.
Is it oblate? Is that why it’s so adorable? Oh wow it’s so loud. I thought this was just a Server? But your using it like a computer? I am confused. Great pickup for a $1
Dudeee, servers are awesome, I have one and I use it as a desktop/gaming pc, servers are just powerful pcs in the end, especially the elder ones.
I've just picked up a Dell T110 ii for free. Using mainly as a NVR/storage or general kitchen puter... Ideal as it only uses around 35W at idle and they run quiet.
I am able to find them to, but its the shipping that is costing me
I would've picked this up in person with a single pound coin in hand if it wasn't for the current pandemic. Shipping these servers usually isn't cheap due to the weight and size sadly.
I wonder if you can swap out those pci-e 8x slots out for one with a 16x slot.
Issue with the lights its the 50hz frequency ... happens with tvs trying to be filmed by a camera
I would absolutely love this kind of thing for file storage. Debian without a GUI, the resources it _does_ have could come to some use also.
it's probably overkill for storage only.
@@pietrocavicchioli6128 That would be where I put the rest of its resources to use.
@@TDGalea oh oke, have a nice day man.
You Lucky Bas.. :D i really need one and am watching for one since like one year.. :P
Definitely a fine server for that price point, though I personally prefer a bit better bang for my TDP buck. I think the lowest configurable processor generation I'd want to keep around would be some Xeon E5 v0 processors on the LGA1567 platform. You can get decacore processors for those at around or below 145W TDP, and PC3-12800 ECC RAM is reasonably inexpensive if it doesn't have as much as you'd like. Regardless, what a great bargain you've acquired here.
So tempted but what on earth would I do with one...
create a gaming rig!
@@timrattenbury4768 Would be a bit big tho 😂.
Minecraft server
I'll give you 50p for it!
What does thing thing do in real life? Still enjoyed watching it regardless.
if you are crazy enough you can game on it.
Great video. Would be better to do the tour while the server is off and then do post-commentary for any content while it's loud. Noise is a little distracting.
Ah, the venerable M1015. Great for cross-flashing to IT mode for use as a FreeNAS / TrueNAS server!
*checks ebay for the same server*
Lowest price: £150
*Sad face*
I e-wasted a one of those servers last year. I was tempted to rescue it, but it had a bad PSU fan, and I just went on a power draw crusade on my homelab. So an old Dual Xeon server wasn't looking like a good idea (Already had one with similar specs that I use as an offline backup).
my old 3770k was giving 800pts cb15 - my 5900x gives 3498pts
put the camera to record at 50fps if you can, or slower then 60 anyway, it will solve the flicker problem!
And a little tip: slower your camera FPS, so the lights are not synched and start flickering.
A few others have pointed out the same thing, something to do with the shutter speed. I'll see if I can fix it for the next video :)
Do not change anything in the task manager(If you change Cinebench does not work well)
cobs bujit server builds
I would just take this for free