G'day you two, greeting from down under, happy new year. I only recently foung you on YT and have been binge watching. Looking forward to further videos. With all your garden waste it handy having the place next door.😉😊
Oh wow these old plans are just amazing!! So many historic architectural details have been lost from Victorian buildings around Britain like your old station, I’m really excited to see how you try to reinstate these features. I can’t wait to see what you do next!!
That's super cool that you have been able to find the original plans. It was really good to connect with Julian and his knowledge/research to find your hidden plans. Yeah! They will look wonderful as a focal piece of art, framed in your station.
I first watched the 2 hour special of all you accomplished from 2024. And couldn't help but click on this recommendation. The dreaded RUclips algorithm is...dreaded in its dysfunction, but it gets it right sometimes. And I am enthralled by how you're bringing this charming place back to its original charm and character. Look forward to seeing the 2025 progress.
It's lovely that you will be able to faithfully recreate more of the station house. I will be following along and look forward to seeing the final reveal.
One thing I noticed on the plans: If you need to replace any of the wooden beams with new ones they need to be quarter sawn. The end grain shown on the plans indicate that. Quarter sawn is stronger and more stable, less likely to warp or twist.
Its incredible that those plans were found, and definitely looking forward to seeing how you use the discovery to restore some original features. Also looking forward to seeing Julians completed model of the station.
I had just come across your video yesterday, and I'm very happy to see that you are taking the time to restore this piece of history. As being a carpenter who will never retire, I would love to have the opportunity to work this project . Thanks for your time and effort on presenting this video
You can count on a model railroad guy to hunt obsessively for something like those plans. Huzzah to Julian! I had always though that corner in the kitchen was a fireplace. Fun to know I was right. The curly (iron?) support design for the canopy is beautiful. While the long canopy (which appears in the model to almost reach the trains) was practical in your Welsh rains when passengers had to stand outside, I think the smaller one is more balanced and doesn't block the beautiful roof lines on each end of the building. Having just dealt with a major repair of our roof here, what concerns me is the 'trough' created between the central station roof and the long canopy. Unless each side was angled slightly lower at the outside edges, it seems rainwater would pool there. Water pooling on roof? Not a good thing. Congrats on getting these plans. It really is exciting!
Thank you, absolutely love Julian’s dedication. The roof currently is an absolute marvel, the rain flows off it and it doesn’t need much repair, we’re super lucky
Bravo Mr. Julian! This is so great. I must say you explained everything so well, you are such a great reporter. I think you’ve found your calling, on-air personality. I so enjoy watching the developments in your home/property. You have a gorgeous property, looking forward to the next steps. Congrats.
Definitely Bravo Julian. Thank you for the lovely comments, I often get told to talk less on the videos so this appreciation was a very valued comment ☺️
Exciting seeing the original plans.👍💗 I like the origional smaller canopy. 😄 Lot of building works being held up by this weather at the mo. 🥶 Least you are still managing to get on with the outside. 😄
What an auspicious start to 2025, great episode. I love the way you pace these videos, and I love that you share all the diversions, distractions, and disasters that accompany every old structure like this.
The curly part on the canopy. There is writing I can't make out the first word but the second word is corbel which is what corner "flares" are called. Corbels were used on a lot of old American houses as well.
wonderful video...we can share your excitement...I have become a strong fan of your work and look forward to each video..All of the beautiful stations in America are virtually gone.
I really enjoy this series and the Old Station ... Evan tho I'm Across the Pond as they say, "old History of Buildings" and such I enjoy "Learning"! "Until Next Video"!
On Julians mock up, I believe that the long front canopy was most likely that length in order to accomodate the loading and unloading of passangers from carriages and taxis, protecting them from the rain and snow.
You are correct. Back in Train era, the trains needed to be loaded and unloaded quickly as the train would be enroute to another station. The canopy and deck was a waiting area for passengers coming and going.
Well done Julian, those plans will be such a help in the restoration work. I know it’s winter, and the leaves are gone from the trees, but the bridge garden looks like it’s been well and truly cleared out. When you think what it was like at the beginning. It looks twice the size. You must have lost one or two trees since arriving? It looks beautiful though and I’m sure you will have lots of plans for it xxx
The cast-iron / wrought-iron ornate metal structure that held up the canopies, you may find at reclaim yards. In South Africa it is called “Broekie lace” 😊
Sharpen your blade. It's way easier than you think. Get the round file, put it in the vase and hit the right angle. You can get mess with the stops too, they set the depth of the cut, but that's not necessary right away. It's more important as the blade wears. Bottom line, it makes a world of a difference. Now that i've done it a few times i've even stopped mid job after about an hour, maybe less just to resharpen it to keep going. It's that easy and makes that much difference.
Looks like the large Gents toilets in the north east corner room got added later. The 1901 plan shows this a Parcel Room. The patronage of the Station with passengers rather than freight must have been more substantial in later years to warrant the cost.
Love those old plans. If you are thinking about re-instating the canopy please feel free to get in touch. As a blacksmith i would love the opportunity to make the scroll supports.
Is the wrought iron lamp to the right of the entrance original to the building? If so, that is probably the same as (or very similar to) the ironwork on the canopy supports
Yes it’s original but a different design from the one on the plans, I did think it may have been the lamp design. There were two lamps originally at the front, we are not sure about the back
To tell you the truth, I think the station looks better with the long canopy than the shorter one😊 It's really interesting having a look back in time isn't it?❤😊
Lovely to see the plans it would be nice also to see if you could find a colour scheme which would depend upon the era and the company that owned the line at the time
Looks great! Such a beautiful building! You should scrape the old top windows and from them get an idea of the original colour of the windows ;) Kind regards from Danish a furniture conservator
Hi Laura, what you should have said, is, ' you have acquired '😃plans of the old station, this is really great newx and I do hope you frame these plans, have a great 2025, best regards from a Kiwi living in Australia, Les
Now you need to split, stack, and dry the logs from the fallen trees so you'll have it for the fire places. When we had our house on 10 acres (4 hectares), we were able to dry the split logs from trees (oak & olive) we had removed for two years before burning it in our wood stove. When we sold the place, there was wood that had dried for 4 years. I removed my comment on the scroll work as I saw it had already been covered.
We can’t wait for the building work to start, currently the steel to hold the roof up is being fabricated I’ve asked if the factory can video some of it, waiting to see if they do
That metal support in the drawing is very similar to the metal light support on the wall were you was stood , if that's original I could have been made to match the canopy supports ,, Just an idea you would know more about the light , but great you found the plans 👍
Thats amazing you were able to find the plans...but also, did you consider lifting the roof a bit so you can have full windows visible on ground floor? :) i alrrady said it in previous video comments but that would be really amazing,
As a former architect who got out of college in 1981, it was about that time that AUTOCAD was starting. I worked for a large, 125 person A/E firm in Dallas, TX and we only had one (1) CAD station. All drawings done before that time were done by hand.
@ 40 years later, it’s hard to believe that I went to work and drew 8-10 hours a day, day after day after day. Now it’s just a few clicks and you’re done.
@@johnkelly6942 I am now a draftsman for 36 years, al by hand the first years, copies were made with machines with developers and heating elements and you just had to hope that it didn't get stuck otherwise there was also a risk of fire. Sometimes I miss those days, more connection with the drawing.
I'd guess originally all the ironwork and possibly the doors and windows were painted a pale grey or cream colour to match the surrounding stone as closely as possible. Apparently the Victorians were quite obsessed with blending in. From what I've read that trend was based on a mis-guided admiration of ancient Greek and Roman architecture. Early archaeologists believed that those classical buildings had been plain light stone originally, while in fact they'd been painted all sorts of gaudy colours.
The national railway museum may also have plans for local yards, railway stables, bridges, tunnels, and a lot of other stuff, I use the a lot for my channel.
Just discovered the Chanel and love it. However, what station is/ was it? It looks very similar to the one that used to be in Senghenydd, long gone now. Rich & Caroline
I'm curious if the scroll work seen in other videos (Brickwork Resto Pt 2 @11 : 45) is the same or similar to the scrolls seen on the plans at 9:07. Could they have been repurposed for other use?
All reached to the top of the brickwork, about 380 cm high, there was storage space above that in the loft, must have been a hatch somewhere as there were no stairs
Technically you should be calling those DRAWINGS and not plans. The word "plan" refers to the floor layout only. The other drawings are Exterior Elevations along with the details. (I'm an old school draftsman who started drawing in ink by hand and then on computer). Should be an interesting project look forward to see it completed.
@@KM-hn8ce : That's just how it goes with an old structure like this. My first house was a 100 year old Victorian (in northern Massachusetts) that required LOTS of time for demolition in order to reveal and eventually restore the original fabric of the structure.
You say other stations were built to the same plans and that these are now demolished but there should be photos of these which may give you further clues.
Those plans would be beautiful framed and hung in your home when it’s finished.
Oh wow.... how original ....
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G'day you two, greeting from down under, happy new year.
I only recently foung you on YT and have been binge watching. Looking forward to further videos.
With all your garden waste it handy having the place next door.😉😊
Yes it is 👍 thanks for watching
Thank you for showing me your lovely station you are doing a great job.
Thank you very much!
Fun to see the drawings and your enthusiasm. Gil is doing one of my favorite chores. So satisfying!
He loves it
Well done Julian. 👏 What a blessing.
Oh wow these old plans are just amazing!! So many historic architectural details have been lost from Victorian buildings around Britain like your old station, I’m really excited to see how you try to reinstate these features. I can’t wait to see what you do next!!
Happy new year to you and your family wonderful to have the original drawings amazing such a great find ❤❤❤
Same to you!
Great to see the model built from the original plans. Gives an idea of the scale of the building and something to aim for!
Model train enthusiasts love original anything.
That's super cool that you have been able to find the original plans. It was really good to connect with Julian and his knowledge/research to find your hidden plans. Yeah! They will look wonderful as a focal piece of art, framed in your station.
I agree and hopefully will be, great piece of original art to have.
I first watched the 2 hour special of all you accomplished from 2024. And couldn't help but click on this recommendation. The dreaded RUclips algorithm is...dreaded in its dysfunction, but it gets it right sometimes. And I am enthralled by how you're bringing this charming place back to its original charm and character. Look forward to seeing the 2025 progress.
That original canopy design really enhances the buildings structure and details!
It's lovely that you will be able to faithfully recreate more of the station house. I will be following along and look forward to seeing the final reveal.
Thank you! 😊
Julian does amazing work
Great to have the original plans. Beautiful building too.
One thing I noticed on the plans: If you need to replace any of the wooden beams with new ones they need to be quarter sawn. The end grain shown on the plans indicate that. Quarter sawn is stronger and more stable, less likely to warp or twist.
That's grand that you have the original plans now. So beautiful. 👍😊
I love this love you have for this old station and bringing it back to life
A Pullman carriage would make a nice centrepiece on the old track bed!❤
Yes it would
Or even an old need of repair caboose! I mean you'll need another project when the station is done, Eh?
Pricey though!
You are living my dream, have fun l know it will be hard work but enjoy every moment
Thank you
I'm happy that you wereable to find the plans! As always, thanks for taking us along.
Great find with the plans, looks like you will have plenty of firewood for those five fireplaces.
Loads 😁
What a fantastic informative find!
The curlicues on the plans would have been wrought iron, which was very popular at that time.
Keep working. one small step at a time.
Those plans are pure gold! You'll make a fine job of it all and more power to you both! XX
Thank you, Julian, Great find! 🙂
Its incredible that those plans were found, and definitely looking forward to seeing how you use the discovery to restore some original features.
Also looking forward to seeing Julians completed model of the station.
The model is coming along a lot quicker!
How exciting, thank you for sharing it with us.
Thanks for watching!
I had just come across your video yesterday, and I'm very happy to see that you are taking the time to restore this piece of history. As being a carpenter who will never retire, I would love to have the opportunity to work this project . Thanks for your time and effort on presenting this video
Thank you so much for the lovely comments
Fabulous find. Great video. G Ire
Fantastic update, thank you.
Our pleasure!
You can count on a model railroad guy to hunt obsessively for something like those plans. Huzzah to Julian! I had always though that corner in the kitchen was a fireplace. Fun to know I was right. The curly (iron?) support design for the canopy is beautiful. While the long canopy (which appears in the model to almost reach the trains) was practical in your Welsh rains when passengers had to stand outside, I think the smaller one is more balanced and doesn't block the beautiful roof lines on each end of the building. Having just dealt with a major repair of our roof here, what concerns me is the 'trough' created between the central station roof and the long canopy. Unless each side was angled slightly lower at the outside edges, it seems rainwater would pool there. Water pooling on roof? Not a good thing. Congrats on getting these plans. It really is exciting!
Thank you, absolutely love Julian’s dedication. The roof currently is an absolute marvel, the rain flows off it and it doesn’t need much repair, we’re super lucky
This is fantastic. well done and I look forward to seeing your renovation.
Bravo Mr. Julian! This is so great. I must say you explained everything so well, you are such a great reporter. I think you’ve found your calling, on-air personality. I so enjoy watching the developments in your home/property. You have a gorgeous property, looking forward to the next steps. Congrats.
Definitely Bravo Julian. Thank you for the lovely comments, I often get told to talk less on the videos so this appreciation was a very valued comment ☺️
Exciting seeing the original plans.👍💗
I like the origional smaller canopy. 😄
Lot of building works being held up by this weather at the mo. 🥶
Least you are still managing to get on with the outside. 😄
The weather is cold but not too wet, the steel for the roof is being fabricated, hoping they will start putting it in in a couple of weeks
What an auspicious start to 2025, great episode. I love the way you pace these videos, and I love that you share all the diversions, distractions, and disasters that accompany every old structure like this.
Thank you, noted we will continue adding these in 😊
The curly part on the canopy. There is writing I can't make out the first word but the second word is corbel which is what corner "flares" are called. Corbels were used on a lot of old American houses as well.
The corbels are stone supports in the wall 😀
wonderful video...we can share your excitement...I have become a strong fan of your work and look forward to each video..All of the beautiful stations in America are virtually gone.
Thank you so much!😊
I really enjoy this series and the Old Station ... Evan tho I'm Across the Pond as they say, "old History of Buildings" and such I enjoy "Learning"!
"Until Next Video"!
Thank you 🤩
So amazing that you found plans
All credit to Julian the great railway detective!
This is great news!!!
Thanks for your excellent discussion of the old plans.
On Julians mock up, I believe that the long front canopy was most likely that length in order to accomodate the loading and unloading of passangers from carriages and taxis, protecting them from the rain and snow.
You are correct. Back in Train era, the trains needed to be loaded and unloaded quickly as the train would be enroute to another station. The canopy and deck was a waiting area for passengers coming and going.
@@slyfox7429 -- I was referring to the canopy over the station's FRONT entry - not the platform.
Very interesting to see the plans, and something for you to refer back too.
my mum lived in wenvoe and used to get train to barry back in the day she said the hedges worked at station
Well done Julian, those plans will be such a help in the restoration work. I know it’s winter, and the leaves are gone from the trees, but the bridge garden looks like it’s been well and truly cleared out. When you think what it was like at the beginning. It looks twice the size. You must have lost one or two trees since arriving? It looks beautiful though and I’m sure you will have lots of plans for it xxx
Great to have such a unique home when finished - now look for an old carriage to have as a guest room on the platform side!
Those chainsaws perform like the blades could do with a sharpen 👍
Way to go Julian!
The man’s a legend! We’re so grateful for the work he’s put in.
The cast-iron / wrought-iron ornate metal structure that held up the canopies, you may find at reclaim yards. In South Africa it is called “Broekie lace” 😊
We have found a couple, but they are huge much too big for this station, we will keep looking.
You are so lucky to have those plans!
I know, we’re lucky to have an expert like Julian on the case!
Bodes well for the future. So exciting!
Sharpen your blade. It's way easier than you think. Get the round file, put it in the vase and hit the right angle. You can get mess with the stops too, they set the depth of the cut, but that's not necessary right away. It's more important as the blade wears. Bottom line, it makes a world of a difference. Now that i've done it a few times i've even stopped mid job after about an hour, maybe less just to resharpen it to keep going. It's that easy and makes that much difference.
Looks like the large Gents toilets in the north east corner room got added later. The 1901 plan shows this a Parcel Room. The patronage of the Station with passengers rather than freight must have been more substantial in later years to warrant the cost.
I think you've got the rooms flipped. The parcels room is now part of the ground floor bedroom and the toilets were in what was later the kitchen.
I bet the chain sawing started out as real fun, but from this film it now looks incredibly hard work!
How amazing to have found these and lovely to see that yoy are really trying to respect the original plans! ❤
Love those old plans. If you are thinking about re-instating the canopy please feel free to get in touch. As a blacksmith i would love the opportunity to make the scroll supports.
Thank you, actually we need supports or decorative steels for the current canopy email us and we can discuss, emails in the info on the channel
@theoldstationrenovation hi, i don't seem to be able to find an email address in your info.
Is the wrought iron lamp to the right of the entrance original to the building? If so, that is probably the same as (or very similar to) the ironwork on the canopy supports
Yes it’s original but a different design from the one on the plans, I did think it may have been the lamp design. There were two lamps originally at the front, we are not sure about the back
To tell you the truth, I think the station looks better with the long canopy than the shorter one😊
It's really interesting having a look back in time isn't it?❤😊
We also like the long canopy and it would have been more functional
Very exciting indeed - a game changer in fact.
Awesome news !! Happy Dance time !!
Lovely to see the plans it would be nice also to see if you could find a colour scheme which would depend upon the era and the company that owned the line at the time
We’ve been doing a bit of work on finding out the colour scheme, a local research group have sent us some information which we’re going through 🤞
Looks great! Such a beautiful building! You should scrape the old top windows and from them get an idea of the original colour of the windows ;) Kind regards from Danish a furniture conservator
A railway enthusiast came and did that in the 1970s and has sent us the analysis of the scraping 😁
@@theoldstationrenovation Wauw, nice! Looking forward to see the colour :)
Hi Laura, what you should have said, is, ' you have acquired '😃plans of the old station, this is really great newx and I do hope you frame these plans, have a great 2025, best regards from a Kiwi living in Australia, Les
Now you need to split, stack, and dry the logs from the fallen trees so you'll have it for the fire places. When we had our house on 10 acres (4 hectares), we were able to dry the split logs from trees (oak & olive) we had removed for two years before burning it in our wood stove. When we sold the place, there was wood that had dried for 4 years. I removed my comment on the scroll work as I saw it had already been covered.
Very nice. Julian at Station Road is a nice site also
3 or 4 rail cars would make a nice B&B
They would the track but be awesome
I am so glad I subscribed near the beginning of your journey. What is going to be revealed next? I can hardly wait! Good luck.
We can’t wait for the building work to start, currently the steel to hold the roof up is being fabricated I’ve asked if the factory can video some of it, waiting to see if they do
Lovely
That metal support in the drawing is very similar to the metal light support on the wall were you was stood , if that's original I could have been made to match the canopy supports ,, Just an idea you would know more about the light , but great you found the plans 👍
Thats amazing you were able to find the plans...but also, did you consider lifting the roof a bit so you can have full windows visible on ground floor? :) i alrrady said it in previous video comments but that would be really amazing,
The central room will have the full height windows visible, the side rooms won’t the smaller windows will be on the upstairs
check the scroll details against the lamp brackets.
They are not the same, that was my first thought too 👍
As a former architect who got out of college in 1981, it was about that time that AUTOCAD was starting. I worked for a large, 125 person A/E firm in Dallas, TX and we only had one (1) CAD station. All drawings done before that time were done by hand.
Amazing, a lost skill
@ 40 years later, it’s hard to believe that I went to work and drew 8-10 hours a day, day after day after day. Now it’s just a few clicks and you’re done.
I see the channel took my advice about getting the plans up.
I knew an architect named paul kersey.
@@johnkelly6942 I am now a draftsman for 36 years, al by hand the first years, copies were made with machines with developers and heating elements and you just had to hope that it didn't get stuck otherwise there was also a risk of fire. Sometimes I miss those days, more connection with the drawing.
I'd guess originally all the ironwork and possibly the doors and windows were painted a pale grey or cream colour to match the surrounding stone as closely as possible. Apparently the Victorians were quite obsessed with blending in. From what I've read that trend was based on a mis-guided admiration of ancient Greek and Roman architecture. Early archaeologists believed that those classical buildings had been plain light stone originally, while in fact they'd been painted all sorts of gaudy colours.
Originally the posts and windows were white and red, they then changed them to stone and cream 👍
I would copy and frame that for the inside of your station
Awesome!!!❤❤❤
Exiting times ❤
The national railway museum may also have plans for local yards, railway stables, bridges, tunnels, and a lot of other stuff, I use the a lot for my channel.
Thanks, we will keep looking for other plans
Tell Gil to be careful with that chainsaw, he’s not using the proper PPE, and we don’t want any injuries.
Safety wellies, marigolds and jeans are not ok? 14:50
Just discovered the Chanel and love it. However, what station is/ was it? It looks very similar to the one that used to be in Senghenydd, long gone now.
Rich & Caroline
Hi both, it’s Wenvoe so not a great distance from Senghenydd.
@ ah! Thank you, it’s been driving me mad trying to guess where you are. Amazing blog by the way and a beautiful building.
I'm curious if the scroll work seen in other videos (Brickwork Resto Pt 2 @11 : 45) is the same or similar to the scrolls seen on the plans at 9:07. Could they have been repurposed for other use?
They are different, there are some original lamps on the building that have a slightly different design
double door 8 foot 6 inch
😁
Awesome. But did all the rooms reach up to the roof or was there an attic? If so, how was it accessed?
All reached to the top of the brickwork, about 380 cm high, there was storage space above that in the loft, must have been a hatch somewhere as there were no stairs
According to William Hanson it is "lavatory", not "toilet".
Yay!!!😁
What do you use the large shed you built for? I must have missed why you built it x
We had Christmas dinner in it, it’s extra space currently but hopefully a nice retreat to relax in in the future
What is the name of the hubbies channel for the train model being built?
Station Road @StationRoadModelRailway
I do hope you can get those plans enlarged and put under glass
We will 😁
@@theoldstationrenovation Glad to hear it
I was right about it having a "ladies waiting room", just not where it was located!
Lovely (and some of us in the UK in 2024 still use measurements in feet and inches! not just the Victorians)
Looks like you'll get a fair bit of firewood out of those downed trees.
Technically you should be calling those DRAWINGS and not plans. The word "plan" refers to the floor layout only. The other drawings are Exterior Elevations along with the details. (I'm an old school draftsman who started drawing in ink by hand and then on computer). Should be an interesting project look forward to see it completed.
Akin to finding the Holy Grail!
It really is, we’re so grateful to Julian for finding them. They’ll take pride of place on the wall when we’re done!
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When are you starting the renovation? We are waiting a long time now.
If you had watched all the episodes you would know what's going on.
@@stephnewman1357
Not much yet. Just demolition.
@@KM-hn8ce : That's just how it goes with an old structure like this. My first house was a 100 year old Victorian (in northern Massachusetts) that required LOTS of time for demolition in order to reveal and eventually restore the original fabric of the structure.
Have you been to . The station looks same?
It’s the very same!
@@theoldstationrenovation 🙈
You say other stations were built to the same plans and that these are now demolished but there should be photos of these which may give you further clues.
We have some photo's of one of them, it is identical to our station, better maintained in the photo though. Such a pitty it was knocked down.
🔨🖌
Looking forward to 2025 and working on the station
fum video!
Where did they store coal I wonder?
There was a rail yard so probably a huge coal store for the trains and a little store somewhere at the station