@@christiandelapena8623 Thanks for the compliment big guy, but I was born in 1961, grew up watching Bob McAdoo, Wes Unseld Bob Lanier, Bad News Barnes, and Kermit Washington. I saw Jordan at North Carolina with top 50 NBA player James Worthy, and Sam Perkins, led by HALL OF FAME coach Dean Smith. Then he was drafted 2nd behind SAM BOWIE, are you kidding me SAM BOWIE? Then he was so pathetic he went to the playoffs with a 30-52 record, SWEPT back to back by Boston, and bounced by the Bucks in the first round, and sported an impressive 1-9 in the first round before the Commissioner, Phil Jackson, and Pippen dragged him to his first final after watching him stink up the place for 7 seasons. But thanks for the kiddo compliment grandpa.......ha ha.
I dont know, when I watched the 2018 EC playoffs I didnt think he'd just bulldoze through considering Kyrie left. Plus the 51 point performance on the Finals made me really pissed off at JR lol 😂 Plus 2016 Finals block and leading all major stats of BOTH teams and and the 2012 Game 6 Lebron against the Celtics was amazing Maybe your just looking at his current old self like Jordan on his Wizards days.
LeBron moves from team to team and ask for super teams to win. And still can't even win. Jordan never asked for super teams. Back in his Era that didn't exist. 6-0 in finals. Jordan will always be better 5hsn LeBron.
@@Deeboy1214 Super teams existed. The Celtics and Lakers I would argue were both super teams that's why they're always the ones coming out of their conferences to the Finals. Plus I'd argue having Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman in one team is as scary as the Lebron Heat. The only one I'd say that carried his team the most was Olajuwan. Lol but its overshadowed by the fact Jordan was out playing baseball 😂
There are alot of stats going on, i "think its a little bit too much about stats" See, thats modesty.. "Im now the best, check my stats" Will never translate to goat.
I gotta disagree. They are both amazing players and I think trae is starting to show his true colors out there. Also he made the list of the people he loved growing up and played against. He watched the doc and put Jordan number 1.
@@iceseth9961 I never said trae is not a great player.. did I? Trae is one of the great point in this era but luka is all around and facilitator player while trae is pure scrorer..
@@LaboyMoto to be honest man... I'm a hawks fan lol. I just defending my boys case. I agree tho, luka seems bigger and more of a all around. Trae is a better playmaker and scorer but I agree.
Trae plays kindy playground game. Not adult game. That chicken little running with the current rules made his game unwatchable. Wish Derek Harper can play and use his tough hands check Trae out of the court ASAP.
If this generation saw how Michael Jordan played basketball, the intensity, the heroic shots, the finesse, never surrender, never quit attitude. He just played the game the best he could. Never Asked for another superstar to win. The winning mentality for every minute of the game win or lose. Then Lebron will just be another superstar.
And Jordan holds the highest ppg. Despite averaging 21 pts in the wizard that goes to show that he is the best offensive player ever. Wilt was one of. The biggest guys in his time while Jordan is only 6"6.
@@adrianmarkovic3197 yea that does not make him the goat MJ is described as a beast by NBA legends and NBA was physical back then and jordan won 6 championships he made the bulls win the first championships and 5 more after that the bulls haven't won a single championship also no hate on kobe
Was the league around before Jordan? 🤔 Because I could've sworn there was a guy that was an Olympic gold medalist in something other than basketball, and he scored 100pts in a game🤔
@@Schubertz08 Bro, we could just throw stats and records back and forward, in the discussion about who's the goat, but lemme tell you something: What do you see when you watch Kobe play? You see a black mamba. You see a deadly, quick, swift snake that'll kill you in seconds if u let it strike. What do you see when you watch MJ play? You see a tiger. An animal that has a murderer instinct like no other, and that you gotta always look out for, or else you gon end up with your throat sliced. But when you see LBJ... You see a Lion. At first glance you see a true KING, that is the most powerful beast in the jungle, and who knows it. He has that pride, that undisputed confidence, he knows no fear. Lebron strikes fear into enemies' hearts like no other. He is intimidating like no other, and he REIGNS the NBA like no other before him, even though he in his 17th year. He's faster, stronger, taller and heavier than MJ. He spent almost half of his life in the NBA and is probably not going to stop untill he's 40 something years old, and u still hating. And let me tell you what; when MJ was in his prime, there was people just like you, who would tell you to consider therapy if you'd tell them you think MJ is better than Wilt. Cuz every generation has it's goat. And every decade has die-hard fans who will never accept that, inevitably, there will come a guy who will be better than their goat. And that's exactly what you are doing rn and what I will probably do as well when LBJ will get retired and some next great guy will come to take the throne and earn his place in the GOAT debate. Because, when you grow up watching someone play, and that someone becomes ur role model, ur hero, there's no way you're gonna admit someone is better than that particular guy; deep in your heart though, you know there will be some next guy who will overcome what your goat did, and that is heartbreaking, so we try to ignore it, bury it deep under layers of hate, and negativity, but thats childish - and someday, we gotta admit to ourselves, that no guy will be the goat forever - neither Wilt, Magic, Jordan, Kobe, or LBJ.
@@SuperRocket64 a center that played against really nobody even close to the people that mj has played level is the GOAT? a center that has done nothing skillful an only has insane stats because he’s insanely tall is the GOAT? 😂 yea ok no matter if your a Jordan fan or not you should no he’s not THE GOAT for a reason there’s a reason why Kareem lebron an mj are top 3
@@petermendez5184 so by ur logic? u gave a pass to MJ but not to Lebron? when Lebron literally has a shit team and org in his early years in cavs and lebron carried those bums to finals but mj can't? ok bud
Wilt is more of a fictional character than MJ. Much of his great stats were never recorded. They were just passed on from one generation to another through oral narratives.
@@amadoarjaybabon4020 I gotta give it to MJ... I saw a video of him shattering a backboard, unheard of for a shooting guard...much love for Wilt "The Stilt" though😁✌
I mean who's the measuring stick?? Wilt? No. Larry? No. Magic? No. Shaq? No. Kareem? No. Kobe? Aaaah, no. LeBron?? HELLS NO! It's Jordan, there ain't nobody comparing players to anyone else but Mike he is the best.
I am a knick fan and i must say MJ had and probably still has the most all around skills anyone has ever had !! He is by far the GOAT !!! He is untouchable in all categories just ask the guys that played against him. MJ is super human, nuff said !!
MJ was a monster from day 1 He eliminated EVERY criticism in hostile fashion Game 1 of 1992 finals the story was Blazers have the edge and Drexler might be the better SG because his 3 ball 6 3's and 30 something later it was halftime ONE HALF OF BASKETBALL U DIDNT COMPARE CLYDE 2 MJ & U KNEW BULLS WERE REPEATING One half of basketball After dominating and retiring his return was 17 games. The outing in the playoffs lead 2 "did he lose a step?" Lmao 72 wins later u knew not to question MJ only player 2 get better till he became champ Then becomes unguardable and unbeatable Longest span of dominance unlike anything in the FA era
If you can’t tell the difference between Millennials and Gen Z: Millennials grew up with MJ. Whether we watched him as pre-teens or teenagers or even toddlers, we saw him with the Bulls, and maybe the Wizards. Gen Z was mostly born after MJ’s last ring, and some even after his Wizards tenure, so they didn’t experience it firsthand.
Well mj had to finish against some of the greatest centers and due to pace centers were more set. Mj also did more off-ball things which is underrated lebron does nothing off-ball and plays in a weaker era of centers and due to paace the centers are less set. In my opinion mj's better than lebron, but lebron is still great.
The era us soft because Jordan bitched and bitched about the game being too physical. Jordan was the catalyst and the first benefactor of his softening of the league!
Joel Embiid.....you obviously have not done your research. 100 point game is one record that stands out, yes, I get that. And I am sure WIlt has other records. But again you obviously have not done enough research. Because did you know at one point, which was about 4 years ago or so, MJ owned more POST-SEASON RECORDS, not including regular season, I am talking POST-SEASON RECORDS, than Kobe, Lebron, WILT, Kareem, and Magic.....COMBINED! Until Lebron got a few, He was sitting at 42 RECORDS! And that still wasn't enough for all of those legends combined. And some will never be broken. And again, that is just post-season. Do your research youngin'!
Jordan is not only de Goat, He is the Fucking GOAT!!! and that´s it!!!! Jordan was born when God decided to play basketball, so.. he is the Black Jesus!
Not that impressive an accomplishment when you are favorite in all of them. Only 1 of those opponents had an actual shot at winning (93 suns). The series was so close that both teams scored the same # of total points.
@@kevinsiu4956 lol imagine thinking 3 peating twice isn’t impressive when mj is the only person to 3 peat twice in the modern era. You most likely haven’t accomplished anything in life so how are you going to say what Jordan did wasn’t impressive. And I wonder why the best player in the league was favored in all those finals, it’s almost like he was just too dominate 🧐
@@VaginasIayer if your team is always the favorite, you're not overachieving when you win. Plus, I can tell you're a mindless Jordan brownnoser who likes to attribute all success to Jordan and completely ignore the fact that he had a top 3 ATG coach and never advanced beyond the 2nd round without PJ, Pippin, and either Grant or Rodman. Unlike mindless tards like yourself, i see someone who angers his teammates to the point of threatening to break his legs is a shitty leader. Someone who couldn't even lead his team to the playoffs as while still the best player on his team is someone whose style of play lacks impact. No GOAT tier player's team is only -2Ws the next year they're replaced by a no name scrub like Pete Myers.
@george ellias - The team had to disband the team for financial reasons. No different than the Edmonton Oilers of the Gretzky championship era. For every win, the team became more and more expensive to keep together, because everyone is deserving of that pay increase or contract extension request.
MVPS: Jordan : 5, Lebron: 4 Chips: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4 Finals MVPS: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4 Scoring Titles: Jordan: 10, Lebron: 1 DPOTY: Jordan: 1, Lebron: 0 All D first team: Jordan: 9, Lebron: 5 Steals Titles: Jordan: 3, Lebron: 0 Finals Losses: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 6 Number of NBA finals shooting under 30% from the 3pt line: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 2(2007,2012) Number of NBA finals scoring + assisting 50% of the team points(assuming all assists = 2 points) Jordan: 3(1991,1993,1997) - The only player in NBA history to have done this multiple times. Lebron: 1(2015) Championships without a 20 ppg scorer in playoffs: Jordan: 4, Lebron: 1 Jordan's finals opponents average wins: 61.2 LeBrons finals opponents average wins: 60.8 P.E.R (player efficiency rating): Jordan - led the league 7 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 10 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.9(1st in NBA history) and playoff career avg P.E.R 28.6(1st in NBA history) LeBron - led the league 6 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 9 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.5(2nd in NBA history). playoff career avg P.E.R 28.3(3rd in NBA history) Win Shares: Jordan - led the league 8 times. Also finished top three 11 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2505(1st in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2553(1st in NBA history) LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 6 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2345(6th in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2436(3rd in NBA history). Box Plus Minus: Jordan - led the league 10 times. Also finished top three 11 times. Regular season career avg 9.22(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg 11.14(1st in NBA history). LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 10 times. Regular season career avg 8.94(2nd in NBA history), playoff career avg 10.16(2nd in NBA history) Value Over Replacement Player: Jordan owns 6 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played. LeBron owns 2 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played. Jordan - VORP per game regular season career avg .1083(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg .1382(1st in NBA history) LeBron - VORP per game regular season career avg .1059(2nd in NBA history) playoff career avg .1289(2nd in NBA history) All time small forward rankings: (500 game min) LeBron - Points 2nd, Assists 1st, Rebounds 12th, Steals 9th, Blocks 17th, FG% 17th, FT% 107th. All time shooting guard rankings: (500 game min) Jordan - Points 1st, Assists 4th, Rebounds 3rd, Steals 3rd, Blocks 3rd, FG% 9th, FT% 34th. Clutch Shooting:(5secs to go in a game or overtime) Career Regular and Playoffs. LeBron - 19 out of 94 for 20% Jordan - 25 out of 50 for 50% Finals Win/Loss Record: Jordan 24-11 Lebron 18-31 Stop comparing GREATNESS to MEDIOCRE
MJ is so good, you could have him vs any team and he would win.. MJ is so good, you could have him vs golden state with Kevin Durant and he would win.. MJ is so good, you could have him vs Nba All star team and he would win.. MJ is so good, you could have him vs USA Olympic team and he would win.. MJ is so good, he was the goat before he even was in the league.. MJ is so good, he beat the Monstars...by himself....lol Moral of the story If you play basketball the best you can do is 2nd place ..why? Because MJ is MJ and every player in history before and every player in history after will never measure up..... Sincerely, Skip Bayless!
Age__*MJ....Lebron 19.................nba drafted 20................ rookie of the year 21___*nba drafted 22___*rookie of the year 23___*MVP 23.................Scoring Leader 24___*Scoring Leader 25___*Scoring Leader 26___*MVP+1st ring+FMVP 26___*Scoring Leader 26................. MVP 27___*MVP+2nd ring+FMVP 27___*Scoring Leader 27.................. MVP 28___*3rd ring/+FMVP 28___*Scoring Leader 28.................MVP+1st ring+FMVP 29.................MVP+2ndring+FMVP 29___*Scoring Leader 30___*Scoring Leader 31___*MVP+4th ring+FMVP 32___*5th ring+FMVP 32................. 3rd ring+FMVP 33___*MVP+6th ring+FMVP 36................. 4th ring+FMVP 36___*Scoring Leader 37___*Scoring Leader 38___*Scoring Leader 41___*MJ RETIRED The debate will go on and on. It will be a seesaw. Of course this generation will sway to Lebron side as MJ swayed in his generation. But this is my view. After this generation, MJ would be favoured as comparison to the coming generations....not Lebron. Even Lebron takes 6 or 7 or 8 championships his legacy will always be doubted with MJ's.
When they diss Wilt Chamberlain they unintentionally diss Bill Russell. I mean, why do they think Wilt only won 2 championships? It's not like Bill Russell has 11 rings or something 🤔
45 was Larry Jordan’s jersey number who was micheals older brother and role model and pretty sure the reason Jordan’s number was 23 was because he wanted to be at least half the man Larry was
Imagine being so iconic that people take both ur numbers 23 and 45
Mitchell is right,,
Everybody wants to be #23
lbj the goat
@DeWayne Phillips im the goat
@ShadowGotBeats im the goat
@Kayra c11 im the goat
kronos tarantado yeah everyone wants to be lebron
Michael Jordan is "the Michael Jordan" of Goats
Period
Larry Terry ok
Larry Terry the first time mj got past the second round pippen averaged 10 and 5 mj averaged 45 just stop it man
@Larry Terry go out of your mother's house and be independent kiddo.
@@christiandelapena8623 Thanks for the compliment big guy, but I was born in 1961, grew up watching Bob McAdoo, Wes Unseld Bob Lanier, Bad News Barnes, and Kermit Washington. I saw Jordan at North Carolina with top 50 NBA player James Worthy, and Sam Perkins, led by HALL OF FAME coach Dean Smith.
Then he was drafted 2nd behind SAM BOWIE, are you kidding me SAM BOWIE? Then he was so pathetic he went to the playoffs with a 30-52 record, SWEPT back to back by Boston, and bounced by the Bucks in the first round, and sported an impressive 1-9 in the first round before the Commissioner, Phil Jackson, and Pippen dragged him to his first final after watching him stink up the place for 7 seasons.
But thanks for the kiddo compliment grandpa.......ha ha.
Michael Jordan is the reason we’re all here in some form. MJ all day 🤙🏼 G.O.A.T
Huh? He impregnated our mothers, too? Or are you saying Jordan is God? You Jordan fans are something else!
half urban half suburban Jordan is black Jesus
@@captnjack9827 lol!!! Dunkin balls and saving souls!
@jocriss so by ur logic? It's okay to lose in the first round than in the finals? mj can't get past to larry without pippen lol
Period!
Mj can think while up in the air..
Virgel Nebasa and change his mind couple times in the air
they don't know what you are talking about. This comment is underrated...
He can have tea time in midair lmao
He can make a movie and change up outfits in the air
LeBron James can think without dreaming while sleeping.
Jordan played in an era where being physical was the norm. You cant even blow wind to the players in todays NBA.
I know right? A player can't fart on another player without it being called a flagrant foul.
@@anthonyrodriguez2382 sus
@@anthonyrodriguez2382 more like a fragrant foul lmao
@@coltonkrum6491 hahahahaha 😆
and that physical era he was averaging 30 points and winning scoring titles left and right...modern NBA he really would've been averaging 40
"theres micheal jordan...then the rest of us"-magic johnson
-back in 1989
No, let’s go Jordan
@@itsicyy. thats what im saying, im a jordan fan lol
Magic had zero scoring ability.
@@144Souldier 😂
When Jordan played it was “must see”. When lebron plays its “ the great divider and who really cares”!
Facts bra
I dont know, when I watched the 2018 EC playoffs I didnt think he'd just bulldoze through considering Kyrie left. Plus the 51 point performance on the Finals made me really pissed off at JR lol 😂 Plus 2016 Finals block and leading all major stats of BOTH teams and and the 2012 Game 6 Lebron against the Celtics was amazing
Maybe your just looking at his current old self like Jordan on his Wizards days.
LeBron moves from team to team and ask for super teams to win. And still can't even win. Jordan never asked for super teams. Back in his Era that didn't exist. 6-0 in finals. Jordan will always be better 5hsn LeBron.
@@Deeboy1214 facts
@@Deeboy1214 Super teams existed. The Celtics and Lakers I would argue were both super teams that's why they're always the ones coming out of their conferences to the Finals. Plus I'd argue having Jordan, Pippen, and Rodman in one team is as scary as the Lebron Heat.
The only one I'd say that carried his team the most was Olajuwan. Lol but its overshadowed by the fact Jordan was out playing baseball 😂
Hahaha, when the hell was Carmelo compared to MJ?
I'm the Goat
Earlier in his career
Earlier in his Career he was the scoring leader in the league
His footwork is similar to MJ's
🐐 is the goat
MJ the GOAT
So LeBron wears 23 because of Beckham?
No Lebron wears 23 because of MJ to give respect to MJ
@@sofie_johanne8288 yeeeh
Beckham wore 23 for Jordan 😭😂
Why did Jordan wear 23? Who wore it before him?
@@CreativeBigL MJ
They just be making up records to compare players to Jordan
Lol exactly! 😡
Dutt Dutt Goose exactly it pisses me off 😡😡😡🤬🤬
In high school, I tied my shoes at a rate of 47% accuracy...the same as Michael Jordan!
And all these youngins go crazy when MJ releases his shoes in a daily basis.
The King of Basketball is
Michael Jordan.
Braver up bro, the god of basketball😂😂😂
@@evanescence-x4r the king is lebron, the GOD is Michael Jordan
@@Dan42069___ no doubt about that. I think Trae needs some old school knowledge just like what Jordan did to Benjamin lol
He’s the goat of sports
@@Dan42069___ I like that analogy 💯👍
their was a players vote,and the young players vote jordan over everybody
There*
There are alot of stats going on, i "think its a little bit too much about stats"
See, thats modesty..
"Im now the best, check my stats"
Will never translate to goat.
Measure GOATS by the decades, not by the hype.
Oh your here too......but not so many likes.
I love your channel
Well then that would be MJ!
90s MJ
00s Kobe
10s Bron
@@sprtingeteb1396 00's Tim duncan
That's why dallas traded young to luka great decision lol!
I gotta disagree. They are both amazing players and I think trae is starting to show his true colors out there. Also he made the list of the people he loved growing up and played against. He watched the doc and put Jordan number 1.
@@iceseth9961 I never said trae is not a great player.. did I? Trae is one of the great point in this era but luka is all around and facilitator player while trae is pure scrorer..
@@LaboyMoto to be honest man... I'm a hawks fan lol. I just defending my boys case. I agree tho, luka seems bigger and more of a all around. Trae is a better playmaker and scorer but I agree.
Trae plays kindy playground game. Not adult game. That chicken little running with the current rules made his game unwatchable. Wish Derek Harper can play and use his tough hands check Trae out of the court ASAP.
Too much weed Young
If this generation saw how Michael Jordan played basketball, the intensity, the heroic shots, the finesse, never surrender, never quit attitude. He just played the game the best he could. Never Asked for another superstar to win. The winning mentality for every minute of the game win or lose. Then Lebron will just be another superstar.
he asked jerry crause to get dennis rodman tho
I stopped watching basketball after MJ retired. It became boring.
That's youngster for you.
Stupidity at its finest!
@@smgyro1476 these dumbasses use 4 fingers to operate a cell phone and then they call us stupid
@@zzzomair
these fingers of mine do some wicked shit 🗿🗿
I'm 21 and I've always thought MJ is the greatest of all time.
Why I started watching Basketball as a kid..? Jordan!
And Jordan holds the highest ppg. Despite averaging 21 pts in the wizard that goes to show that he is the best offensive player ever. Wilt was one of. The biggest guys in his time while Jordan is only 6"6.
he was 40 u know and average first season 25 ppg
You don’t know basketball Kobe has 10 scoring titles and more career points then Mj
@@adrianmarkovic3197 yea that does not make him the goat MJ is described as a beast by NBA legends and NBA was physical back then and jordan won 6 championships he made the bulls win the first championships and 5 more after that the bulls haven't won a single championship also no hate on kobe
@@adrianmarkovic3197 U got it backwards about scoring titles. Jordan has the record for most scoring titles.
For one generation? MJ is the GOAT for all generations.
You a bulls fan
I agree
Plus what about the generations b4 he was in the league lmfao
Was the league around before Jordan? 🤔 Because I could've sworn there was a guy that was an Olympic gold medalist in something other than basketball, and he scored 100pts in a game🤔
@Baskets and Hoops WNBA >>>>>>> 60s Nba
Ill bet right now mike could beat lonzo
Lavar will give MJ a whooping tho
Louie Paolo Lumanglas well obviously, Lavar is the GOAT 💪
MJ is the Godfather of all these wannabee like Mike's
@@simple45679 unless you talking about them at their age right now.
MJ would win But lonzo is a close 2nd goat he would lose but it would be close.
For all generations MJ is the goat 🐐 without a question
You a bulls fan
Ya
Yes micheal jackson the goat
its lbj for anyone objective
TTV JJC except for my generation
They can say whatever but "THE BEST OF THE BETS IS JORDAN"
Its close
💯
@@thunderguy1170 did u get it tho?
Yeah he loved to gamble 🎰
Team Jordan
Some young players need to watch more film
Like space jam
@@Eheads89-02 And the Jordan Bird commercials.
This is before the Last dance documentary. Asked them again post Last dance
Business all purely business about Nike
Mj is on a whole nother level the lebron
He isn't. He's better though.
@@SirMan48 he really is!!
@@SirMan48 Get some therapy if you think LeBron is better than Jordan.
@@Schubertz08 Bro, we could just throw stats and records back and forward, in the discussion about who's the goat, but lemme tell you something: What do you see when you watch Kobe play? You see a black mamba. You see a deadly, quick, swift snake that'll kill you in seconds if u let it strike. What do you see when you watch MJ play? You see a tiger. An animal that has a murderer instinct like no other, and that you gotta always look out for, or else you gon end up with your throat sliced. But when you see LBJ... You see a Lion. At first glance you see a true KING, that is the most powerful beast in the jungle, and who knows it. He has that pride, that undisputed confidence, he knows no fear. Lebron strikes fear into enemies' hearts like no other. He is intimidating like no other, and he REIGNS the NBA like no other before him, even though he in his 17th year. He's faster, stronger, taller and heavier than MJ. He spent almost half of his life in the NBA and is probably not going to stop untill he's 40 something years old, and u still hating. And let me tell you what; when MJ was in his prime, there was people just like you, who would tell you to consider therapy if you'd tell them you think MJ is better than Wilt. Cuz every generation has it's goat. And every decade has die-hard fans who will never accept that, inevitably, there will come a guy who will be better than their goat. And that's exactly what you are doing rn and what I will probably do as well when LBJ will get retired and some next great guy will come to take the throne and earn his place in the GOAT debate. Because, when you grow up watching someone play, and that someone becomes ur role model, ur hero, there's no way you're gonna admit someone is better than that particular guy; deep in your heart though, you know there will be some next guy who will overcome what your goat did, and that is heartbreaking, so we try to ignore it, bury it deep under layers of hate, and negativity, but thats childish - and someday, we gotta admit to ourselves, that no guy will be the goat forever - neither Wilt, Magic, Jordan, Kobe, or LBJ.
@@phildenut4430 hey bro where can I get that information,whats your media account can u send me that please
Trae Young is clueless. Too much weed.
You accused him because he did not think what you're thinking..
@@zochhuanawmazote7263 Nop. He actually can think or say whatever he wants... But it doesn't mean he is right everytime.
He is an idiot. Product of this generation. Lebron is a wet fart next to MJ.
@@cubanref9670 you are absolutely right, buddy.
You are dumb and numb
For any youngin' ....... MJ is the GOAT !!!!!!!!..... had the thing you can't teach.... sheer will !!!!!!!!
Wilt chamberlain is way better than Jordan. MJ is so overrated. And if you get triggered than you are a typical Michael Jordan Fan
@@SuperRocket64 a center that played against really nobody even close to the people that mj has played level is the GOAT? a center that has done nothing skillful an only has insane stats because he’s insanely tall is the GOAT? 😂 yea ok no matter if your a Jordan fan or not you should no he’s not THE GOAT for a reason there’s a reason why Kareem lebron an mj are top 3
73% of current nba players think MJ the goat!
@Larry Terry lame
Larry Terry When Larry Bird had HALL of FAMERS on his team and Jordan had bums on his team..
Bird was overrated...hes nobody GOAT 😂
More like 83 percent, crack cocaine must be REALLY good this generation lol
@@abduljakul5989 I'm sorry basketball is a team sport.
@@petermendez5184 so by ur logic? u gave a pass to MJ but not to Lebron? when Lebron literally has a shit team and org in his early years in cavs and lebron carried those bums to finals but mj can't? ok bud
Jordan forever eva!..
Jordan was like a fictional character that played out live... I have lost interest in today's generation...Great story
Wilt is more of a fictional character than MJ. Much of his great stats were never recorded. They were just passed on from one generation to another through oral narratives.
@@amadoarjaybabon4020 I gotta give it to MJ... I saw a video of him shattering a backboard, unheard of for a shooting guard...much love for Wilt "The Stilt" though😁✌
@@TheVanexel23 mm mm
Same the NBA is lame now .
@@bigbopper8747 very
I saw the two players playing, Mj is the goat by far.
@donkey ass reviews and do's he missed the playoffs last year..
Jordan is the g.o.a.t.
6:13 Did my man really say Geeanis? 😂😂
MJ is the GOAT
_Jordan_ praising players signed to his brand that little bit extra ;-)
They'd can be the all they want too Michael is the shepherd🏀
I'm just saying can the man get a humanoid name please what is a 🐐 goat
@@kerwindavid6589 goat means Greatest of all time.
I mean who's the measuring stick?? Wilt? No. Larry? No. Magic? No. Shaq? No. Kareem? No. Kobe? Aaaah, no. LeBron?? HELLS NO! It's Jordan, there ain't nobody comparing players to anyone else but Mike he is the best.
Giannis traveled on his dunk at 6:03. The NBA makes me sick.
Dont say MJ while ur at lakers team otherwise ull be tradedoff🤣🤣🤣🤣
JORDAN IS THE GOAT.
MJ- theres no other.
They should say "who is the MJ of the league" instead of "who is the G.O.A.T".
Michael is the best best of all time.
& Will be for a long time
Michael Jordan is to Manny Pacquiao- 🐐 🐐 🐐... LeBron is to Mayweather-TBE (Self-Proclaimed)... 🤣 😂 🤣
Wilt had to play Bill Russell. He would lose to them nearly every year.
6 rings 😎
@AgooD Avgguy 6 finals mvps
@@KyleMacSkill 5 Regular Season MVPS...should have been 8 or more
@AgooD Avgguy I bet he would won 0 if he didn’t moved to Miami
I am a knick fan and i must say MJ had and probably still has the most all around skills anyone has ever had !! He is by far the GOAT !!! He is untouchable in all categories just ask the guys that played against him. MJ is super human, nuff said !!
Kobe is my idol but real goat is Mitchel Jordan
3rd commet. Sup to TP productions
commet lol
Michael Jordan is always GOAT
Wilt averaged 17 PPG IN the FINALS for his career bro
Dude wilt in every game score about 60 points 20 asists 20 rebounds
MJ was a monster from day 1
He eliminated EVERY criticism in hostile fashion
Game 1 of 1992 finals the story was Blazers have the edge and Drexler might be the better SG because his 3 ball
6 3's and 30 something later it was halftime
ONE HALF OF BASKETBALL U DIDNT COMPARE CLYDE 2 MJ & U KNEW BULLS WERE REPEATING
One half of basketball
After dominating and retiring his return was 17 games. The outing in the playoffs lead 2 "did he lose a step?" Lmao 72 wins later u knew not to question MJ
only player 2 get better till he became champ
Then becomes unguardable and unbeatable
Longest span of dominance unlike anything in the FA era
Anyone who says that Lebron is better than MJ was is delusional
If you can’t tell the difference between Millennials and Gen Z:
Millennials grew up with MJ. Whether we watched him as pre-teens or teenagers or even toddlers, we saw him with the Bulls, and maybe the Wizards.
Gen Z was mostly born after MJ’s last ring, and some even after his Wizards tenure, so they didn’t experience it firsthand.
They just don't know what they don't know.
My grandma taught all the ball brothers and she still knows them and talks to them to this day
Sick!
Do not listen to embiid, he’s got nothing to say it for MJ🤣
Mj didnt say that about zion he Said that about lebron
Wilt has two rings because he was going vs the best super team of all time in the celtics
Yeah but Wilt did screw up in 1970 against the Knicks. That should have been another title for him.
These kids saying LJ is better than MJ...
...Are the same kids sayin’ that KIA’s a great car.
James Naismith is the GOAT
No it Jacob Underwood
@@pieseldatches6264 fax
jordan will always be the goat nobody else
MJ was the most complete player the game has witnessed to this day. Will he be topped? Who knows, but it sure as shit isn't by James.
So dumb lebron is a better passer and rebounder
ngl, the thumbnail got me.
It’s easily Michael Jordan
Lebron
Kouvaris Roberts Michale Jordan*
@@kouvarisroberts1349 stop riding my friend
To all of the kids that say lebron tell me one reason why lebron is better than jordan
Well mj had to finish against some of the greatest centers and due to pace centers were more set. Mj also did more off-ball things which is underrated lebron does nothing off-ball and plays in a weaker era of centers and due to paace the centers are less set. In my opinion mj's better than lebron, but lebron is still great.
The player that made the game of basketball global? 3 words.
Michael Jeffrey Jordan.
4 words, Michael Jeffrey Air Jordan
1 word: goat
4 words I took it personally
2 word Larry Bird
Yeah the soft era of LeBron...
cupcake era
plumber era of jordan df
The era us soft because Jordan bitched and bitched about the game being too physical. Jordan was the catalyst and the first benefactor of his softening of the league!
The flop era lol...
Skinny Jeans Purse wearing i want to play with my friends on a superteam era lol
it’s definitely not soft they just don’t throw each other on the ground like the 90’s
Joel Embiid.....you obviously have not done your research. 100 point game is one record that stands out, yes, I get that. And I am sure WIlt has other records. But again you obviously have not done enough research.
Because did you know at one point, which was about 4 years ago or so, MJ owned more POST-SEASON RECORDS, not including regular season, I am talking POST-SEASON RECORDS, than Kobe, Lebron, WILT, Kareem, and Magic.....COMBINED! Until Lebron got a few, He was sitting at 42 RECORDS! And that still wasn't enough for all of those legends combined. And some will never be broken. And again, that is just post-season.
Do your research youngin'!
Donovan Mitchell has an awesome dunk package
Jordan is not only de Goat, He is the Fucking GOAT!!! and that´s it!!!! Jordan was born when God decided to play basketball, so.. he is the Black Jesus!
Jordan = 6-0 in the finals via 2 three peats.
Freemasonry Jordan wake up
Not that impressive an accomplishment when you are favorite in all of them. Only 1 of those opponents had an actual shot at winning (93 suns). The series was so close that both teams scored the same # of total points.
@@kevinsiu4956 lol imagine thinking 3 peating twice isn’t impressive when mj is the only person to 3 peat twice in the modern era. You most likely haven’t accomplished anything in life so how are you going to say what Jordan did wasn’t impressive. And I wonder why the best player in the league was favored in all those finals, it’s almost like he was just too dominate 🧐
@@VaginasIayer if your team is always the favorite, you're not overachieving when you win. Plus, I can tell you're a mindless Jordan brownnoser who likes to attribute all success to Jordan and completely ignore the fact that he had a top 3 ATG coach and never advanced beyond the 2nd round without PJ, Pippin, and either Grant or Rodman.
Unlike mindless tards like yourself, i see someone who angers his teammates to the point of threatening to break his legs is a shitty leader. Someone who couldn't even lead his team to the playoffs as while still the best player on his team is someone whose style of play lacks impact. No GOAT tier player's team is only -2Ws the next year they're replaced by a no name scrub like Pete Myers.
@george ellias -
The team had to disband the team for financial reasons. No different than the Edmonton Oilers of the Gretzky championship era. For every win, the team became more and more expensive to keep together, because everyone is deserving of that pay increase or contract extension request.
MVPS: Jordan : 5, Lebron: 4
Chips: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Finals MVPS: Jordan: 6, Lebron: 4
Scoring Titles: Jordan: 10, Lebron: 1
DPOTY: Jordan: 1, Lebron: 0
All D first team: Jordan: 9, Lebron: 5
Steals Titles: Jordan: 3, Lebron: 0
Finals Losses: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 6
Number of NBA finals shooting under 30%
from the 3pt line: Jordan: 0, Lebron: 2(2007,2012)
Number of NBA finals scoring + assisting 50%
of the team points(assuming all assists = 2 points)
Jordan: 3(1991,1993,1997) - The only player in NBA history
to have done this multiple times. Lebron: 1(2015)
Championships without a 20 ppg scorer in playoffs:
Jordan: 4, Lebron: 1
Jordan's finals opponents average wins: 61.2
LeBrons finals opponents average wins: 60.8
P.E.R (player efficiency rating):
Jordan - led the league 7 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 10 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.9(1st in NBA history) and playoff career avg P.E.R 28.6(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 6 times in P.E.R. Also finished top three 9 times in P.E.R. Regular season career avg P.E.R 27.5(2nd in NBA history). playoff career avg P.E.R 28.3(3rd in NBA history)
Win Shares:
Jordan - led the league 8 times. Also finished top three 11 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2505(1st in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2553(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 6 times. WS/48mins regular season career avg .2345(6th in NBA history), WS/48mins playoff career avg .2436(3rd in NBA history).
Box Plus Minus:
Jordan - led the league 10 times. Also finished top three 11 times. Regular season career avg 9.22(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg 11.14(1st in NBA history).
LeBron - led the league 5 times. Also finished top three 10 times. Regular season career avg 8.94(2nd in NBA history), playoff career avg 10.16(2nd in NBA history)
Value Over Replacement Player:
Jordan owns 6 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
LeBron owns 2 out of the 9 greatest seasons ever played.
Jordan - VORP per game regular season career avg .1083(1st in NBA history), playoff career avg .1382(1st in NBA history)
LeBron - VORP per game regular season career avg .1059(2nd in NBA history) playoff career avg .1289(2nd in NBA history)
All time small forward rankings: (500 game min)
LeBron - Points 2nd, Assists 1st, Rebounds 12th, Steals 9th, Blocks 17th, FG% 17th, FT% 107th.
All time shooting guard rankings: (500 game min)
Jordan - Points 1st, Assists 4th, Rebounds 3rd, Steals 3rd, Blocks 3rd, FG% 9th, FT% 34th.
Clutch Shooting:(5secs to go in a game or overtime) Career Regular and Playoffs.
LeBron - 19 out of 94 for 20%
Jordan - 25 out of 50 for 50%
Finals Win/Loss Record:
Jordan 24-11
Lebron 18-31
Stop comparing GREATNESS to MEDIOCRE
Kevin... Great plot of their careers. Would like to copy and paste to Lebum fanatics. Best analysis ever
@@joss2345 appreciate the kind words homie 👊🙏💯
Don’t show Bron fans this they’re gonna throw a tantrum lmao
Anyone that says MJ isn’t the GOAT is a fool
I'm pretty sure Space Jam is what got me on the MJ train, I never got off 😎
Until someone accomplishes everything Jordan has , then I'll listen 🙄🙄🙄🙄
Mj the greatest goat 😁
He’s overrated
@Larry Terry And Magic owns Bird Lmao
Mj is the greatest one man game!!!
@Larry Terry magic needed kareem
That’s why larry bird got dumped on by magic
MJ always
Amazing to see Donovan on rebound
Go Jazz!!
Michael Jordan = G.O.A.T
MJ is so good, you could have him vs any team and he would win..
MJ is so good, you could have him vs golden state with Kevin Durant and he would win..
MJ is so good, you could have him vs Nba All star team and he would win..
MJ is so good, you could have him vs USA Olympic team and he would win..
MJ is so good, he was the goat before he even was in the league..
MJ is so good, he beat the Monstars...by himself....lol
Moral of the story If you play basketball the best you can do is 2nd place ..why?
Because MJ is MJ and every player in history before and every player in history after will never measure up.....
Sincerely,
Skip Bayless!
jordan is the 🐐
Age__*MJ....Lebron
19.................nba drafted
20................ rookie of the year
21___*nba drafted
22___*rookie of the year
23___*MVP
23.................Scoring Leader
24___*Scoring Leader
25___*Scoring Leader
26___*MVP+1st ring+FMVP
26___*Scoring Leader
26................. MVP
27___*MVP+2nd ring+FMVP
27___*Scoring Leader
27.................. MVP
28___*3rd ring/+FMVP
28___*Scoring Leader
28.................MVP+1st ring+FMVP
29.................MVP+2ndring+FMVP
29___*Scoring Leader
30___*Scoring Leader
31___*MVP+4th ring+FMVP
32___*5th ring+FMVP
32................. 3rd ring+FMVP
33___*MVP+6th ring+FMVP
36................. 4th ring+FMVP
36___*Scoring Leader
37___*Scoring Leader
38___*Scoring Leader
41___*MJ RETIRED
The debate will go on and on.
It will be a seesaw.
Of course this generation will sway to Lebron side as MJ swayed in his generation.
But this is my view.
After this generation, MJ would be favoured as comparison to the coming generations....not Lebron.
Even Lebron takes 6 or 7 or 8 championships his legacy will always be doubted with MJ's.
They are gonna say Bron cause they may get to play w him.
10,000th like
Any of these young guys in the league that dont think MJ is the greatest dont know their NBA history too well and need to go watch some game film!! 🤨
MJ is NOT the goat though.its just an opinion. I think that Wilt Chamberlain is the TRUE G.O.A.T
my GOAT list.. respect
1. jordan
2. james
3. wilt
4. kareem
5. magic
6. oneal
7. duncan
8. bill russel
9. kobe
10. durant
never ever lebron better tha Michael Jordan JORDAN ITS A Real GOAT
Yes that's true Jordan is the only one best NBA player for all time
I watched Wilt, Magic,Shaq,Bird,Kobe, LeBron, Mj is the Got.. LJ..top 20ish
When they diss Wilt Chamberlain they unintentionally diss Bill Russell. I mean, why do they think Wilt only won 2 championships? It's not like Bill Russell has 11 rings or something 🤔
I got to watch Jordan, Kobe, Lebron, Shaq, and was alive for Bird but don't remember.
Wilt chamberlain has two rings and his enemy has 11
But no one has ever averaged 50 & 20 and no one ever will!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Lebron he’s good at it but nobody I mean NOBODY is better then jordan
LeBron couldn't carry MJ's jock.
Bron wears 23, not other number, end of discussion
Mj have 22 records in nba
T1mothy B4cani wilt chamberlain has 72 records
45 was Larry Jordan’s jersey number who was micheals older brother and role model and pretty sure the reason Jordan’s number was 23 was because he wanted to be at least half the man Larry was