L. Vierne wasn't part of my musical instruction as a youth. I 'discovered' some of his Organ and Chamber Music in my late 30's and have been fascinated for 30 years since.
+Ernst Kerstner I completely agree. Along with his preludes it really goes to show he was very capable of writing for the piano in addition to organ (and many other genres). Prepare for some more music from him, I'm uploading some now! :)
Wonderful cycle. Each piece has got its own distinctive personality. I'd honestly not share the comments about Debussy influence. I hear more Faure than Debussy, here and - as the other way around - even something that may have served as inspiration to the young Poulenc. However those pieces are truly and genuinely stand-alone masterpieces, extremely personal and independent on any strong influence although, obviously, being children of their time and of the great French early XX century school.
I honestly just think anyone comparing debussys contemporaries to debussy only demonstrates their own shallow ability to discern personality in the music. To compare the first of this set to The Sunken Cathedral seems purely due to the aesthetics of the rising chordal theme. Anyone who has taken the time to really enjoy the piece would know it is very unlike the debussy piece after the first section.
THANK YOU. People always rush to compare a "lesser" composer with a big name one, and it can be a surprising question of who really influenced whom. Vierne's a very great composer -- I hope against hope that the world will finally see this someday. The last great hero of classical symphony and sonata form, his contrapuntal strength rivals Beethoven's. On a good day he's simply unbeatable for inspiration, integrity and originality.
no words for the beauty of number one. beautiful combination of the nocturne's ideas and motifs at 6:38 and marvellous texture are colour at 7:20. the second to last chord of the nocturne is also pure bliss. I remember listening to a few of vierne's pieces and not being all that convinced. hearing these I don't understand how that can be. those harmonies hit the spot exactly and the three nocturnes have such wonderful otherworldly and shattered (I don't know why, but many of the crunchier harmonies in these pieces evoke an image of shattered glass in my mind) colours and textures. the pianist also delivers an exceptional and colourful interpretation.
I... can't understand this music. I've been playing for over 20 years but I consider myself an amateur pianist because I'm not a professional, and I've listened to classical music most of my life since childhood, and played mostly Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Lyapunov, Scriabin, Faure, Liszt, Wagner, Debussy, Kapustin, etc, but this is so unusual to my ears. It's not that I can't listen to more abstract compositions, but these are just so strange to me. Apparently all the people in the comments are much more musically educated than me since they find them so wonderful. I wish I knew what everyone seems to understand that I can't.
Actually the first piece is not too dissimilar from Debussy's La Cathedrale Engloutie albeit with a more epic scope. But I think part of the "strangeness" you perceive is from the sheer frequency of dramatic harmonic change in these works, which can be disorienting. Also, no disrespect to the pianist, but his touch here is a bit heavy for me and destroys any French or Nocturne feel.
What about it can't you understand? That's not meant as a put-down, I'm genuinely curious. Perhaps if you could articulate your frustrations or difficulties with the music, I or others might be able to help.
I have been aways curious if Vierne wrote for the piano also. And to my astonishment these pieces also portray his subtle details as he did his organ works. I will look up on his other piano works from now on.
I LOVE it. I haven't heard of Louis Vierne. I wish I had the score to try it. It's a great piece to show-off your ability to play, even better to sight read the piece. It reminds me of many Classical composers, and I don't mean composers from the Classical period, including Poulenc, Satie, Bortkiewicz, scriabin, Liszt and Chopin to name a few. It's the kind of music I like to stretch my small hands (a ninth).
You may find some scores of classical (or any other genres) on IMSLP. Or try Scribd, it's quite a large doc sharing site, but you wil need to know the exact name of the pieces that you want to look for.
Thanks DityaSanGita, I am a paid subscriber to IMSLP but have lost/ forgotten the knack/ technique of how to download the score. Something always goes wrong. Perhaps hoj could download it in pdf format and forward it to me. Me. My email address is : perrymkiy. This is at (aol) dot com. Or perrywillmk and pmwkiy at (gmail) dot com. Thanks for reminding me.
Beautiful music, should indeed be performed in public more often. Thank you for posting this, and by the way your translation from french is very good.
Chopins nocturnes are quite easy to understand. Faure's are quite difficult to. These from Vierne are hard to. But all nocturnes from them are jewels of piano literature.
Bonjour, il semblerait que pour le premier de ces trois nocturne, le premier accord de la mesure 6 main droite, soit des croches et non pas des noires ; ça ne se reproduit plus après.
These are beautiful pieces. But to mistakenly claim, as one person erroneously does here, that Claude Debussy "ripped off" Vierne by copying him is nonsense and chronologically inaccurate. Debussy performed in public many of his works, and wrote his Images from 1901 to 1907, that is something like a decade and a half before these pieces by Vierne.
They were members of the same stylistic school. They were both under great duress and had difficulties in their lives (including, but not limited to, deaths of immediate family members )It is quite possible that Vierne did know Debussy because the latter wrote a review in a French publication following the premier of his Second Symphonie, Op. 20 calling it "Remarkable."
You are an idiot. Debussy composed, published and performed his Images from 1901 to 1907, about a decade and a half before these were published: he could not have "ripped off" Vierne as you stupidly claim.
@@georgemurphy2579 absolutetely not the same stylistic school. Vierne was Frank's student and was part of the last romantic french composer heavealy inspired by wagnerian langage.
@@orgue2999 I'm not here to argue with regards to each of these composer's influences because it can become quite incolved. My statement was more superficial and obvious. I am not bringing opera into this because Franck was trying to counter it with more focus on French instrumental music. Debussy, as were many others who followed, was one of Franck's disciples as well.
L. Vierne wasn't part of my musical instruction as a youth. I 'discovered' some of his Organ and Chamber Music in my late 30's and have been fascinated for 30 years since.
I just discovered him and am in my late 30s now. His preludes are amazing.
Each nocturne exudes it’s unique and distinct character. Perfection
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
I've played Chopin, Field, and Faure Nocturnes, but these are new to me. Wish I found these sooner. Truly marvelous works!
I recommend Czerny Nocturnes from Op.368 And 604
I recommend Czerny Nocturnes From Op.368 And 604.
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
These pieces are really masterworks!!!
+Ernst Kerstner I completely agree. Along with his preludes it really goes to show he was very capable of writing for the piano in addition to organ (and many other genres). Prepare for some more music from him, I'm uploading some now! :)
+Medtnaculus I am looking forward to it!
Wonderful cycle. Each piece has got its own distinctive personality. I'd honestly not share the comments about Debussy influence. I hear more Faure than Debussy, here and - as the other way around - even something that may have served as inspiration to the young Poulenc. However those pieces are truly and genuinely stand-alone masterpieces, extremely personal and independent on any strong influence although, obviously, being children of their time and of the great French early XX century school.
I agree.
I honestly just think anyone comparing debussys contemporaries to debussy only demonstrates their own shallow ability to discern personality in the music. To compare the first of this set to The Sunken Cathedral seems purely due to the aesthetics of the rising chordal theme. Anyone who has taken the time to really enjoy the piece would know it is very unlike the debussy piece after the first section.
THANK YOU. People always rush to compare a "lesser" composer with a big name one, and it can be a surprising question of who really influenced whom.
Vierne's a very great composer -- I hope against hope that the world will finally see this someday. The last great hero of classical symphony and sonata form, his contrapuntal strength rivals Beethoven's. On a good day he's simply unbeatable for inspiration, integrity and originality.
no words for the beauty of number one. beautiful combination of the nocturne's ideas and motifs at 6:38 and marvellous texture are colour at 7:20. the second to last chord of the nocturne is also pure bliss. I remember listening to a few of vierne's pieces and not being all that convinced. hearing these I don't understand how that can be. those harmonies hit the spot exactly and the three nocturnes have such wonderful otherworldly and shattered (I don't know why, but many of the crunchier harmonies in these pieces evoke an image of shattered glass in my mind) colours and textures. the pianist also delivers an exceptional and colourful interpretation.
Musique oscillant entre racines classiques et impressionisme moderne et surtout très belle écriture non privée de clarté !
Non li conoscevo stupendi!
I... can't understand this music. I've been playing for over 20 years but I consider myself an amateur pianist because I'm not a professional, and I've listened to classical music most of my life since childhood, and played mostly Chopin, Tchaikovsky, Lyapunov, Scriabin, Faure, Liszt, Wagner, Debussy, Kapustin, etc, but this is so unusual to my ears. It's not that I can't listen to more abstract compositions, but these are just so strange to me. Apparently all the people in the comments are much more musically educated than me since they find them so wonderful. I wish I knew what everyone seems to understand that I can't.
Actually the first piece is not too dissimilar from Debussy's La Cathedrale Engloutie albeit with a more epic scope. But I think part of the "strangeness" you perceive is from the sheer frequency of dramatic harmonic change in these works, which can be disorienting. Also, no disrespect to the pianist, but his touch here is a bit heavy for me and destroys any French or Nocturne feel.
What about it can't you understand? That's not meant as a put-down, I'm genuinely curious. Perhaps if you could articulate your frustrations or difficulties with the music, I or others might be able to help.
It’s not about education. It’s about you. Live with it, let it seep in
This is not "classical music" , maybe that is the problem ..?
No problem. I am at odds with Mozart (except his operas - this guy could write for voices, no doubt). So what.
I have been aways curious if Vierne wrote for the piano also. And to my astonishment these pieces also portray his subtle details as he did his organ works. I will look up on his other piano works from now on.
no.3 is wonderful!
Bellissimi
Grande Vierne
I LOVE it. I haven't heard of Louis Vierne. I wish I had the score to try it. It's a great piece to show-off your ability to play, even better to sight read the piece. It reminds me of many Classical composers, and I don't mean composers from the Classical period, including Poulenc, Satie, Bortkiewicz, scriabin, Liszt and Chopin to name a few. It's the kind of music I like to stretch my small hands (a ninth).
The score is on imslp!
Thank you for the IMSLP Llink. One day I would like to try it.
You may find some scores of classical (or any other genres) on IMSLP. Or try Scribd, it's quite a large doc sharing site, but you wil need to know the exact name of the pieces that you want to look for.
Thanks DityaSanGita, I am a paid subscriber to IMSLP but have lost/ forgotten the knack/ technique of how to download the score. Something always goes wrong.
Perhaps hoj could download it in pdf format and forward it to me. Me. My email address is : perrymkiy. This is at (aol) dot com.
Or perrywillmk and pmwkiy at (gmail) dot com.
Thanks for reminding me.
Beautiful music, should indeed be performed in public more often. Thank you for posting this, and by the way your translation from french is very good.
Chopins nocturnes are quite easy to understand. Faure's are quite difficult to. These from Vierne are hard to. But all nocturnes from them are jewels of piano literature.
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
Chef d'œuvre !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Reminiscent of Debussy’s richer works, but with more despair, reminds me of a grieg and rachmaninoff mix
It sounds very fresh and impressionistic
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
The second one is my favourite. It's the most concise.
these are really nice
Last 4 bara of the second nocture :)
Bonjour, il semblerait que pour le premier de ces trois nocturne, le premier accord de la mesure 6 main droite, soit des croches et non pas des noires ; ça ne se reproduit plus après.
i am not sure if the guy understood the first piece
These are beautiful pieces. But to mistakenly claim, as one person erroneously does here, that Claude Debussy "ripped off" Vierne by copying him is nonsense and chronologically inaccurate. Debussy performed in public many of his works, and wrote his Images from 1901 to 1907, that is something like a decade and a half before these pieces by Vierne.
15:56 Summer of 42 anyone?
Had no idea that Vierne wrote for the piano
Kinda random but what piece have you been recently addicted to - you couldent stop listening over and over
Played mysteriously enough?
水漾夢幻
Debussy ripped this off!
Lol probably. But I think you mean "Was inspired by..." "Paid tacit homage to..." "Modeled his after..." :D
Get your chronology correct. These were composed in 1915-16, Debussy wrote his preludes almost a decade earlier.
hmm, Vierne knew Debussy, did Debussy kniw Vierne?
They were members of the same stylistic school. They were both under great duress and had difficulties in their lives (including, but not limited to, deaths of immediate family members )It is quite possible that Vierne did know Debussy because the latter wrote a review in a French publication following the premier of his Second Symphonie, Op. 20 calling it "Remarkable."
You are an idiot. Debussy composed, published and performed his Images from 1901 to 1907, about a decade and a half before these were published: he could not have "ripped off" Vierne as you stupidly claim.
@@fflambeauutube what
@@georgemurphy2579 absolutetely not the same stylistic school. Vierne was Frank's student and was part of the last romantic french composer heavealy inspired by wagnerian langage.
@@orgue2999 I'm not here to argue with regards to each of these composer's influences because it can become quite incolved. My statement was more superficial and obvious. I am not bringing opera into this because Franck was trying to counter it with more focus on French instrumental music. Debussy, as were many others who followed, was one of Franck's disciples as well.