We sure do have great composers, but Satie is something else. He wrote music in a special way, using an approach where I never saw any composer doing. This is a marvelous work here, with all words. This set of Nocturnes has to be one of the best music ever written.
the question is does it add anything to one's karma to be 'true' admirer of a composer, to me it's just about feeling a bit lonely because there's simply too few (or no) people around you who know this music
In other versions, no.3 (my favorite of the five) is given a slightly lighter presentation... almost sprightly in parts an at a faster tempo. I have no clear preference between Rogé's reading and others' differing interpretations (ex: Ciccolini; Thibaudet).
Along with the passing of Debussy, I think the sadness expressed in Satie's nocturnes were (perhaps more so) driven by the departure 26 years before of artist Suzanne Valadon with whom he had a short yet --- for Satie --- intense (and only) affair. Per Satie on the breakup: _Afterwards, he said that he was left with "nothing but an icy loneliness that fills the head with emptiness and the heart with sadness"_
I cut my Satie teeth on Ciccolini, but Rogé has an insight into the Nocturnes that I’ve struggled with for awhile, having determined that they should be played a certain way and only that way. Well, that is childish. These are excellent, indeed.
Encuentro estas piezas fascinantes. Suenan como la vida de una persona real, su corazón y su mente. Sus epifanías, sus recuerdos. Sus tropiezos en la vida, momentos donde llegó a pensar que no había salida. Así como sus partes hermosas; como la calidez de una chispa de esperanza, la salida fuera de un pozo oscuro, la sensación de poder respirar de nuevo. Y luego, las reflexiones respecto a cada experiencia que vivió. Es impresionante la cantidad de sensaciones que puede transmitir la música, aún sin una voz que le de letra con una historia.
Refined, enigmatic, and almost - almost grotesque. The beginning is almost a study in what can be evoked by parallel fifths and fourths! Lovely - thanks for the upload.
@@Fildoggy ? Honestly it’s likely as it’s not the most original thought in the world. Not to say any thought is really all that original. If you’re accusing me of plagiarizing a RUclips comment, have a blast. That’s gotta be one of the most inconsequential infractions that a person could do so it’s not a big concern to me.
satie is one of the few "classical" composers i feel like i can actualy relate to. his music *sounds* like having depression, anxiety, trauma, etc *feels*. he's incredibly down to earth and it always feels like he's just a friend sitting next to you throwing the occaisonal joke to help cheer you up
+spiders Why must the youth ruin music? Even this work of art, they feel compelled to speak of it in relation to their "mental health". He's not a classical composer either blighter!
I love Ravel, Liszt, Alkan, but this here, it's impossible to match. And this comes from a fellow Satie student, as one that worked in his Sarabandes and some of this Nocturnes. This is especial, if you know music, you know it.
Again, Satie delights and puzzles, all at once. What do these works "mean"? They have a quality of profundity that defies analysis. Furthermore, Satie probably would have laughed at my comments....these works are just shy of the extraordinary depth and mystery of the two Preludes du Nazareen.
My first encounter with the music of Satie was at a concert by classical guitarist John Williams, I had never heard anything like that kind of sound before. Since then his music has always been in that category I put Scriabin in - so modern and unique to the point of even years later I struggle to understand and appreciate the essence of what is happening. While both were very different, I think they each had a unique approach especially with respect to harmony unlike no other, way out there. Ironically, I have been listening to the 6 CD box of his piano music recorded by Cristina Ariagno which has 6 nocturnes (also written in 1919) with a recording time of around 17 minutes a few days before you posted this and not only that there seems to be some strange correlation between me digging out some CD I have never listened to and you posting it online a few days later - I'm not making this up, are you psychic or something? :p lol
+scottbos68 Haha, yes that's quite the coincidence :) I'm not always a fan of Satie's music, some of it has just too little substance for me. But I was quite fond of these nocturnes so I decided to post these, so there are at least some compositions by him on my channel.
Mine was a modern dance performance where they jumped clear over the piano.. the whole set and stage was covered in red petals and it was called the Satie project. Will never ever ever forget.
First few bars are chilling then relaxing, it's mild and unassuming yet voluptuous and hearty. It sits in the middle somewhere between reason and absurdity. I love it and I hate it.
Graham: my edition (Henle) points out that the notes are written out very ambiguously. B natural and B flat are both possible readings in at least two places. Thibaudet also plays E natural for E flat in one place. All to do with cancelling flats from the key signature - in modern readings they stay cancelled, but that wasn’t always the case. It’s very frustrating when a composer ( and their editor ) are unclear, though in Satie’s case, he seemed to be aiming for a certain level of uncertainty! In this instance, all one can really do is play very softly and hope no one notices the choice one was forced to make:)
the fourth and fifth almost seem like deconstructions of the pathos used in the earlier nocturnes, each one grows less resolved and more withdrawn, until all thats left is ambiguity and disconcertment
some of his compositions stuff sounds like dances for ballarena s.then detours in to sadnessor even dreari-ness grotesque dreams.he walked a lot so had time to think.
Hasta Chopin, la mayor parte de la música era como un ejercicio matemático, algo impedía a los compositores expresar sus sentimientos íntimos salvo pocas excepciones. Satie le da nueva vida, pone su alma en lo que expresa, como otros lo harían en la pintura, etc. El mundo se humaniza. Mi modesta opinión.
There's definitely pedal being used, but it's being lifted and reapplied frequently to keep the tones from ringing into each other and altering the harmony.
For some reason Satie always reminds me of music from a tiny toy piano. Is it nice or interesting or cute or delightful? Subjectively i can say, "Maybe" but there is something childlike about these nocturnes in both technique and sound. It's not what I would choose to play on a long road trip - way too ephemeral.
This is the garbage that results when idiots who think music is some sort of connection to your soul or that it speaks emotions or whatever else stupid concept, become composers.
@@Whatismusic123 If you don't like listening to composers that express themselves, then I don't know what you're doing here. You should exclusively be listening to religious music.
@@Whatismusic123 you have no idea what you are talking about, oh my god. The cinq nocturnes are one of the best piano pieces I have ever had the pleasure to listen to in my life. Really makes me envision 19th century parisian life. The performance by Pascal Rogé is gorgeous as well.
We sure do have great composers, but Satie is something else. He wrote music in a special way, using an approach where I never saw any composer doing. This is a marvelous work here, with all words. This set of Nocturnes has to be one of the best music ever written.
There is such a beguiling air of mystery, sadness and nostalgia in this music, it can move me to tears. Satie was a unique genius.
The Satie only true admirers know.
Indeed
Yeah.... Came to my recommendations after listening just one of his pieces....
So true.
Or people who just checked his imslp page lol
the question is does it add anything to one's karma to be 'true' admirer of a composer, to me it's just about feeling a bit lonely because there's simply too few (or no) people around you who know this music
Rogé's performance of the third nocturne is incomparable. So solemn and graceful.
In other versions, no.3 (my favorite of the five) is given a slightly lighter presentation... almost sprightly in parts an at a faster tempo. I have no clear preference between Rogé's reading and others' differing interpretations (ex: Ciccolini; Thibaudet).
My favorite CD, but please give Frank Glazer a chance. He is a wonderful interpreter of Satie as is Reinbert de Leeuw
I 100% agree, Juan. Roge's, for me, is the definitive Satie.
Some of my favorite Satie, right here.
Way ahead!!!! way ahead of it's time! The harmonies are just too good. Super human.
There is something profoundly lonely in this music, very contemplative. Given that Satie lived almost like an hermit it is not that surprising.
He was the Obi-Wan Kenobi of French Impressionism.
Along with the passing of Debussy, I think the sadness expressed in Satie's nocturnes were (perhaps more so) driven by the departure 26 years before of artist Suzanne Valadon with whom he had a short yet --- for Satie --- intense (and only) affair. Per Satie on the breakup: _Afterwards, he said that he was left with "nothing but an icy loneliness that fills the head with emptiness and the heart with sadness"_
Rollo H. Meyers biography of Erik is primo, and highly recommended.
It's all in your head, seek mental help, Schizo.
Some of the greatest nocturnes
I’m in love so in love with this artist musician ❤️❤️❤️
He's a phonometrician.
Wow...beautiful pieces
Nocturne 4 would definitely have to be my favorite
6:23 beautiful!
Agreed. This is stunning (nocturne 3 I think).
what a great essay. along w/the gnossiennes, my favorite Satie.
I cut my Satie teeth on Ciccolini, but Rogé has an insight into the Nocturnes that I’ve struggled with for awhile, having determined that they should be played a certain way and only that way. Well, that is childish. These are excellent, indeed.
Coccolini plays way too fast
@@velvetclaw2316 Yeah, like he was on speed ...Don't forget Frank Glazer's Satie interpretations.
@@sitarnut totally - he is actually my least favourite Interpreter of Satie - it’s as If he’s rushing through the work !
Encuentro estas piezas fascinantes. Suenan como la vida de una persona real, su corazón y su mente. Sus epifanías, sus recuerdos. Sus tropiezos en la vida, momentos donde llegó a pensar que no había salida. Así como sus partes hermosas; como la calidez de una chispa de esperanza, la salida fuera de un pozo oscuro, la sensación de poder respirar de nuevo. Y luego, las reflexiones respecto a cada experiencia que vivió.
Es impresionante la cantidad de sensaciones que puede transmitir la música, aún sin una voz que le de letra con una historia.
Esta interpretación de Pascal Rogé es, por lejos, mi favorita.
Very nice, these are amongst the most serene pieces I've ever heard from Satie, and where he clearly refrained from funny remarks in the score.
Refined, enigmatic, and almost - almost grotesque. The beginning is almost a study in what can be evoked by parallel fifths and fourths! Lovely - thanks for the upload.
if I could live inside of Satie's nocturnes I'd do it.
Where would the lavatory be?
@@TheMICMusicInspirationChannel the bathroom
@@jokebookrally LOL
didnt I see this exact comment on poulencs nocturnes
@@Fildoggy ? Honestly it’s likely as it’s not the most original thought in the world. Not to say any thought is really all that original. If you’re accusing me of plagiarizing a RUclips comment, have a blast. That’s gotta be one of the most inconsequential infractions that a person could do so it’s not a big concern to me.
I never imagined satie's music to be such bright.
satie is one of the few "classical" composers i feel like i can actualy relate to. his music *sounds* like having depression, anxiety, trauma, etc *feels*. he's incredibly down to earth and it always feels like he's just a friend sitting next to you throwing the occaisonal joke to help cheer you up
+spiders Why must the youth ruin music? Even this work of art, they feel compelled to speak of it in relation to their "mental health".
He's not a classical composer either blighter!
@spiders Please ignore the other user's rude statement, you're worth more than that!
@@riotwajid_gamez718 Ok Boomer.
He was regarded as one of the most eccentric person in history
@@ivoagar1119 .... there is literally nothing wrong in op’s comment. you just wanna find something to criticize and be mad at
Erik Satie is BADASS ladies and bros, keep listening :)
I love Ravel, Liszt, Alkan, but this here, it's impossible to match. And this comes from a fellow Satie student, as one that worked in his Sarabandes and some of this Nocturnes. This is especial, if you know music, you know it.
Thank you! 👍
Again, Satie delights and puzzles, all at once. What do these works "mean"? They have a quality of profundity that defies analysis. Furthermore, Satie probably would have laughed at my comments....these works are just shy of the extraordinary depth and mystery of the two Preludes du Nazareen.
My first encounter with the music of Satie was at a concert by classical guitarist John Williams, I had never heard anything like that kind of sound before. Since then his music has always been in that category I put Scriabin in - so modern and unique to the point of even years later I struggle to understand and appreciate the essence of what is happening. While both were very different, I think they each had a unique approach especially with respect to harmony unlike no other, way out there. Ironically, I have been listening to the 6 CD box of his piano music recorded by Cristina Ariagno which has 6 nocturnes (also written in 1919) with a recording time of around 17 minutes a few days before you posted this and not only that there seems to be some strange correlation between me digging out some CD I have never listened to and you posting it online a few days later - I'm not making this up, are you psychic or something? :p lol
+scottbos68 Haha, yes that's quite the coincidence :) I'm not always a fan of Satie's music, some of it has just too little substance for me. But I was quite fond of these nocturnes so I decided to post these, so there are at least some compositions by him on my channel.
Mine was a modern dance performance where they jumped clear over the piano.. the whole set and stage was covered in red petals and it was called the Satie project. Will never ever ever forget.
EWWW to compare this dogshit to scriabin is insulting, this is overemotional, unintellectual garbage for the average tween and idiot to blossom over.
Que genio ¡¡¡
Excellent!
Fantastic music
First few bars are chilling then relaxing, it's mild and unassuming yet voluptuous and hearty. It sits in the middle somewhere between reason and absurdity. I love it and I hate it.
Love, tenderness
At 11:33 a B-flat is played instead of the correct B-natural. Interesting how this changes the feel of the passage by making it more consonant.
Graham: my edition (Henle) points out that the notes are written out very ambiguously. B natural and B flat are both possible readings in at least two places. Thibaudet also plays E natural for E flat in one place. All to do with cancelling flats from the key signature - in modern readings they stay cancelled, but that wasn’t always the case. It’s very frustrating when a composer ( and their editor ) are unclear, though in Satie’s case, he seemed to be aiming for a certain level of uncertainty! In this instance, all one can really do is play very softly and hope no one notices the choice one was forced to make:)
Thanks for uploading!
Tres bien
.erikkkkkk🎉
the fourth and fifth almost seem like deconstructions of the pathos used in the earlier nocturnes, each one grows less resolved and more withdrawn, until all thats left is ambiguity and disconcertment
some of his compositions stuff sounds like dances for ballarena s.then detours in to sadnessor even dreari-ness grotesque dreams.he walked a lot so had time to think.
9:30 my favorite part
4:22 I love this.
Hasta Chopin, la mayor parte de la música era como un ejercicio matemático, algo impedía a los compositores expresar sus sentimientos íntimos salvo pocas
excepciones.
Satie le da nueva vida, pone su alma en lo que expresa, como otros lo harían en la pintura, etc. El mundo se humaniza.
Mi modesta opinión.
This was not his last piano composition, that was Premier Menuet.
❤❤❤❤❤
This is played with a sustain pedal or not?i can´t see how someone could play this as legato as he does!
There's definitely pedal being used, but it's being lifted and reapplied frequently to keep the tones from ringing into each other and altering the harmony.
For some reason Satie always reminds me of music from a tiny toy piano. Is it nice or interesting or cute or delightful? Subjectively i can say, "Maybe" but there is something childlike about these nocturnes in both technique and sound. It's not what I would choose to play on a long road trip - way too ephemeral.
PuRe L♥\/e
Fastastic Performance of Pascal Roger.
Rogé but yes!
Ya like Jazz
Anyone hear a bit of Lyle Mays in this?
🌧️
No tenia el gusto de disfrutar de estos nocturnos...
These are nice but maybe too similar to perform live in a suite. All in 12/8, first three in E. Come on, dude, mix it up!
where is the sixth nocturne??
It was posthumously published
I don’t like this performance. Sometimos it is heavy, bom bom... This is not nocturnal, magic...
@@juliomorenodavila8707 Try Ciccolini's version. More delicate than Roge's.
so much dissonance and strange maneuvers. very unique composer…
His piano is out of tune lol
Nah, it's microtonal 😎
and if it weren't it wouldn't sound the same ;)
This is the garbage that results when idiots who think music is some sort of connection to your soul or that it speaks emotions or whatever else stupid concept, become composers.
This is the garbage that results when idiots who have a different taste become "critics".
@@Dageka this is not a matter of taste.
@@Whatismusic123 If you don't like listening to composers that express themselves, then I don't know what you're doing here. You should exclusively be listening to religious music.
@@Dageka too bad this composer fails to express himself, only able to make delusional people like you think you can understand him in his "music".
@@Whatismusic123 you have no idea what you are talking about, oh my god. The cinq nocturnes are one of the best piano pieces I have ever had the pleasure to listen to in my life. Really makes me envision 19th century parisian life. The performance by Pascal Rogé is gorgeous as well.