Radiant is about Order, Dire is about Chaos. One cannot be there without the other. Day needs night, and vice versa for example. Things will not process further in chaos, but order may (and will) become corrupted in time. As Ember would say; Balance in all things :)
I just feel sad and guilty whenever I read dota lores. Basically we as players are responsible for all the eternal suffering that the heroes going through.
the sad part is pa and spectre.pa became spectre after killing counless oracle enemies from diff time n space...and she start loosing her identity.... and the time when spectre destroy ancient she said "at last i can go home".....wich mean she might fullfil the oracle false promise...and she nvr got home bcause this not gonna end..
Damn that's meta as hell and strangely makes me think of Dark souls 3 and the depressing and tired atmosphere of a world that desperately wants to die which in turn all has to do with the fact that at that point Hidetaka Miyazaki had felt pressured to continue the series due it's popularity despite wanting to move on to other projects. Therefore being the genius he is he wanted to translate those feelings of being forced to continue the series into a world which also is constantly being forced to go on and on for eternity as the first flame is rekindled again and again until nothing but mere smoldering embers remain. Furthermore every age and the souls therein are recycled through the eons as they're forced to endure the same miseries and hardships like a skipping record that endlessly repeats but never truly ceases. Honestly there's a great video that does a much better job than me explaining the philosophy of dark souls 3 and I think it was called "I'm thinking of ending it all."
@@mr.nobody896 in my opinion Elder Titan is also quite tragic, he shattered the Primordial Mind, the Universe and his own soul on accident. Then, since he's just a shard of the original Elder Titan, he survived Zeus' purge of and remained the last somewhat living Titan. He still has to live with the guilt of destroying a perfect symmetrical and unified universe, while he also has only one try at fixing it, if it goes wrong it may kill him or even completely end the Universe
I am really amazed how Valve dedicated so much and put so much effort to create the Dota 2 Lore. They even cared explaining the actual gameplay and the purpose of it. That's art.
I feel like the radiant, dire and arc warden lore is inspired by Freud's psychoanalytic theory called the Psyche Tripartite. The Psyche (which is the human consciousness) is composed of the Id, our primal tendencies; the Superego, our conscience; and the Ego, our rational thought that keeps the Id and the Superego in check. The Dire = Id The Radiant = Superego Arc Warden = Ego
Actually it will SCARILY AMAZING for valve to make a Hero that CONFIRMS the Multiverse/Infinite/endless battle theory where it states that every game we the players made is just an alternate timeline with different heroes and scenarios etc etc But this hero not only confirmed this theory but might be the most powerful hero (lore wise) as their the only ones viewing this Dota Universe from a 7th to ♾ dimension Respective Like how we the players view the game/universe So even Weaver and Arc Warden are powerful (lore wise) they are also stuck in this fate
What about the Primordials? It seems they were the ones who made the ancients and Zet and are said to predate the universe. There was a thread in reddit saying the primordials were the old dota 2 devs like Icefrog, guinsoo, eul etc
@AngerMania what's the music name at 1:20 I heard the same thing from Dota anime when Arc Warden show up but this video came out before that and I just cant find your version I'm so confuse right now (be really funny if they stole it from you ) :)
To be honest, literally even heroes of great willpower(heck, it also makes the closest friends fight against each other, and enemies like kunkka and tide ally with each other on the same side) cannot resist the influence of the radiant and the dire, so the end is inevitable... The part where you said the end can be avoid entirely is literally impossible, that's why every game we play, the only ending is either one of the ancients get destroyed. It's basically the Lovecraftian concept of inexorable futility. No living or dead being can ever comprehend or even seize some significant form of control in the mere presence of the Azatoth-equivalent in the dota 2 universe.
Adding voice lines was a good idea. Tbh with heroes like arc warden that have "modified" voice, it's better if you add subtitles, so it's easier to understand what's point of the voice line. Keep up the work :D.
Dota2~Naruto.....? - Zet the third brother ~ Zetsu - power of doubling - eyes only zet face - moon thing? - wants things to reunite Interesting the way stories are still similar across different places, or maybe not and im just making superficial connections. Can't wait for more story tellers to keep creating & building
There are other heroes that can rival the Ancients in power, for example Elder Titan, he is easily more powerful than the Ancients and Zet, in his full form atleast. Right Now Titan is just a small shard of his soul because his soul shattered at the same time as the Primordial Mind did. This is also the reason why Elder Titan is still alive, while the other Titans got killed by Zeus.
Radiant is about Order, Dire is about Chaos. One cannot be there without the other. Day needs night, and vice versa for example. Things will not process further in chaos, but order may (and will) become corrupted in time. As Ember would say;
Balance in all things :)
What would you preffer?
@ excellent answer
I just feel sad and guilty whenever I read dota lores. Basically we as players are responsible for all the eternal suffering that the heroes going through.
the sad part is pa and spectre.pa became spectre after killing counless oracle enemies from diff time n space...and she start loosing her identity....
and the time when spectre destroy ancient she said "at last i can go home".....wich mean she might fullfil the oracle false promise...and she nvr got home bcause this not gonna end..
Damn that's meta as hell and strangely makes me think of Dark souls 3 and the depressing and tired atmosphere of a world that desperately wants to die which in turn all has to do with the fact that at that point Hidetaka Miyazaki had felt pressured to continue the series due it's popularity despite wanting to move on to other projects. Therefore being the genius he is he wanted to translate those feelings of being forced to continue the series into a world which also is constantly being forced to go on and on for eternity as the first flame is rekindled again and again until nothing but mere smoldering embers remain. Furthermore every age and the souls therein are recycled through the eons as they're forced to endure the same miseries and hardships like a skipping record that endlessly repeats but never truly ceases. Honestly there's a great video that does a much better job than me explaining the philosophy of dark souls 3 and I think it was called "I'm thinking of ending it all."
@@mr.nobody896 in my opinion Elder Titan is also quite tragic, he shattered the Primordial Mind, the Universe and his own soul on accident. Then, since he's just a shard of the original Elder Titan, he survived Zeus' purge of and remained the last somewhat living Titan. He still has to live with the guilt of destroying a perfect symmetrical and unified universe, while he also has only one try at fixing it, if it goes wrong it may kill him or even completely end the Universe
I am really amazed how Valve dedicated so much and put so much effort to create the Dota 2 Lore. They even cared explaining the actual gameplay and the purpose of it. That's art.
Valve? Vale made the lore? Lmao
I feel like the radiant, dire and arc warden lore is inspired by Freud's psychoanalytic theory called the Psyche Tripartite. The Psyche (which is the human consciousness) is composed of the Id, our primal tendencies; the Superego, our conscience; and the Ego, our rational thought that keeps the Id and the Superego in check.
The Dire = Id
The Radiant = Superego
Arc Warden = Ego
I really like actually hearing the voicelines
Tbh the addition of voice lines is quite nice. Awesome video (existential crisis included) as always.
2 years later, this video helps me understand dota's dragon blood xD
The voice lines were great! GJ on the video.
Actually it will SCARILY AMAZING for valve to make a Hero that CONFIRMS the Multiverse/Infinite/endless battle theory where it states that every game we the players made is just an alternate timeline with different heroes and scenarios etc etc
But this hero not only confirmed this theory but might be the most powerful hero (lore wise) as their the only ones viewing this Dota Universe from a 7th to ♾ dimension Respective
Like how we the players view the game/universe
So even Weaver and Arc Warden are powerful (lore wise) they are also stuck in this fate
I just found this channel before bed and now it's 4am. I can't stop watching.
Thankyou for covering this, love it
Could tempest double not be argued to be used so that he could destroy both ancients simultaneously?
2:08 arc warden when he hears the beat drop
Arc warden is the balance
What about the Primordials? It seems they were the ones who made the ancients and Zet and are said to predate the universe. There was a thread in reddit saying the primordials were the old dota 2 devs like Icefrog, guinsoo, eul etc
i talk more about that in this video! ruclips.net/video/6Yz6l02LUW0/видео.html
Love the hero lore videos keep up with the amazing work!
@AngerMania what's the music name at 1:20 I heard the same thing from Dota anime when Arc Warden show up but this video came out before that and I just cant find your version I'm so confuse right now (be really funny if they stole it from you ) :)
Aphex Twin - MT1 t29r2 ruclips.net/video/0MtrLA_jmow/видео.html
@@AngerMania holy shit thank you so much now I can finally play Arc Warden
Arc warden got nerf that's why he is not powerful anymore missed those days when he just buy devine and Afk at base
To be honest, literally even heroes of great willpower(heck, it also makes the closest friends fight against each other, and enemies like kunkka and tide ally with each other on the same side) cannot resist the influence of the radiant and the dire, so the end is inevitable... The part where you said the end can be avoid entirely is literally impossible, that's why every game we play, the only ending is either one of the ancients get destroyed.
It's basically the Lovecraftian concept of inexorable futility. No living or dead being can ever comprehend or even seize some significant form of control in the mere presence of the Azatoth-equivalent in the dota 2 universe.
i love how dota2 base their lore in scientific basis
I've been watching your videos they're pretty good and interesting
Adding voice lines was a good idea. Tbh with heroes like arc warden that have "modified" voice, it's better if you add subtitles, so it's easier to understand what's point of the voice line. Keep up the work :D.
Thank you, will do that next time!
Dota2~Naruto.....?
- Zet the third brother ~ Zetsu
- power of doubling
- eyes only zet face
- moon thing?
- wants things to reunite
Interesting the way stories are still similar across different places, or maybe not and im just making superficial connections. Can't wait for more story tellers to keep creating & building
This is great!!
We need these ancientists to allow real mercy at world
There are other heroes that can rival the Ancients in power, for example Elder Titan, he is easily more powerful than the Ancients and Zet, in his full form atleast. Right Now Titan is just a small shard of his soul because his soul shattered at the same time as the Primordial Mind did. This is also the reason why Elder Titan is still alive, while the other Titans got killed by Zeus.
💜❤️ love your lore keep it up well played for Zet's Lore..
I cant die and loose .As timeline reset's but valve is out of the time and space and reduce my MMR .
then why is not my MMR not reverting back to its original Numbers
well im amaze dota2 is mind fucking. we can say that every game (war if ancients dire vs radiant) is an alternate reality in a multiverse
voice lines good
you really went balls deep with disecting
Nice Lore !
How come none of this information was in the anime
epic arc warden moment
To much dose of lore, i love it 😀😁👍👍👍
pretty good vids
A hero with very amazing lore but got rekt and owned by a squirrel in dota.
Have they ever tried 5v5 with out kills and let the creeps decide the outcome?
the self, too, likes your voice.
Anime fans where are you at?