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  • @alltheorynopractice5467
    @alltheorynopractice5467 6 лет назад +4

    This video makes me feel SO MUCH better about my playing. If someone as good as you still misses hatchets and also hates "The Game," then I know I'm not missing some grand secret and that I'm not just getting lucky. Thank you for being a delightful, optimistic inspiration to keep playing this game in the face of some truly toxic players.

  • @Drachthegoop
    @Drachthegoop 6 лет назад +140

    hybrid the devs are using some of your phrases i noticed it with the hill billy two of his weapons have phrases on them on the metallic pickax and on one of the shotguns these phrases are seen "that was not the play" "come here my little sausage".

    • @non-existantpie6478
      @non-existantpie6478 6 лет назад +24

      wolfxgaming yeah but why do they have “clearly a boosted ape” a quote from Noob3... who they’ve banned twice?

    • @flapjack0708
      @flapjack0708 6 лет назад +5

      wolfxgaming I noticed it too

    • @poissonsumac7922
      @poissonsumac7922 6 лет назад +14

      wolfxgaming They also have TheEntitysLeftHand's "Pay. Attention." on the Trapper's Firebrand Stinger.

    • @darkjamesaldritch407
      @darkjamesaldritch407 6 лет назад +7

      Thats honestly really cool now that you point that out. I never noticed that. I always heard it as a background thing. That's cool.

    • @yeeticusfeeticus6879
      @yeeticusfeeticus6879 6 лет назад +3

      I hope everyone likes this up so he uses them lmao

  • @bmba
    @bmba 6 лет назад +102

    That second game actually had me tilted omg

    • @RexDolorum
      @RexDolorum 6 лет назад +8

      i love Hybrid but there he rly fucked up hard, in a Pub i would recommend headphones....

    • @jeremyphelps5140
      @jeremyphelps5140 6 лет назад +4

      Same. Sometimes it drives me crazy how much he let's people get away with mind games

    • @Popo-oy3by
      @Popo-oy3by 6 лет назад +1

      this game is so toxic and trolly like. It's one of the worst most triggered games I've ever played. It's hard for the killer to kill all 4 because you basically have to hook 4 people 9 times. It's even harder to do that when you have survivors who run around in circles with pallets wasting your time

    • @zura8879
      @zura8879 6 лет назад +4

      Yeah I like him, but tries too hard at mindgaming at times, to the point it screws him over.

  • @DrAbKaN
    @DrAbKaN 6 лет назад +11

    He felt sorry for the survivors in the first game... then he got a reality check next game lol...
    He should never give mercy 😂😂😂
    Lesson learned Panda??

  • @shadowspector3611
    @shadowspector3611 6 лет назад +42

    You should've saved your first build for your second game.

    • @shadowspector3611
      @shadowspector3611 3 года назад

      @Jamison Grotzinger: you sound like a horrible lover.

    • @shadowspector3611
      @shadowspector3611 3 года назад +1

      @Lucian Draven: you’re a bot. I’ve seen these exact two comments elsewhere.

  • @BeanutButterBoy
    @BeanutButterBoy 6 лет назад +16

    To be honest, the Claudette in the second game with legacy seemed to be running faster than normal, it's possible she was speed hacking just slightly so it's hardly noticeable.

    • @DigitalDevilKingOfficial
      @DigitalDevilKingOfficial 6 лет назад +4

      I noticed that too tbh.

    • @themacca277
      @themacca277 6 лет назад +22

      nah, huntress is just slow as balls. If she was moving any faster at all he wouldnt have been able to catch her at all. Its because he kept pulling out hatchets & stopping himself.

    • @nodusman6445
      @nodusman6445 6 лет назад +3

      Nice Booty Yeah that Claudette was just really good and Panda shouldn't have pulled his hatches out at these loops.

    • @kwonderland89
      @kwonderland89 6 лет назад +4

      You can outrun a Huntress easily. She is really slow. I play her a lot as well.

    • @BeanutButterBoy
      @BeanutButterBoy 6 лет назад +3

      After re-watching the part i was suspicious about, she's definitely not going faster than normal, it must have been the huntress' speed and the claud was running tight loops. i'm just super vigilant because i've encountered a lot of cheaters in the high ranks, and it annoys me soooo much seeing people get away with hacking or cheating.

  • @user-do8vg1cu5q
    @user-do8vg1cu5q 6 лет назад +41

    Bruh 7.31 blind panda

  • @harrynazarian3184
    @harrynazarian3184 6 лет назад

    I love watching you suffer as the murderer. The sound of despair in your voice when neg wasnt dead on the hook yet was hilarious

  • @iwillwin9899
    @iwillwin9899 6 лет назад

    The intro: that moment when hybrid panda is about to spit flames "check this shit out" 😁

  • @sarahwithstars
    @sarahwithstars 6 лет назад +2

    I feel like Pop goes the Weasel combined with Ruin or Overcharged is really special rank1 plays!! Great work Panda!! 💖💖

    • @spyromalin6618
      @spyromalin6618 6 лет назад

      to my experience 3 gen build works very well at red ranks because people actually want to spread those gens, and you actually stay at 3gens left indefinately

  • @priestskeletor1240
    @priestskeletor1240 6 лет назад

    7:30 just staring at Lauri doesn't even realize it LOL!

  • @GamersUnite1209
    @GamersUnite1209 6 лет назад +15

    If somebody is gonna flashlight save just press R (drop the survivor) a bunch before you finish the animation and you drop the person and they don't get off your shoulder! Even if they time it PERFECTLY!

    • @SaturnineSkies
      @SaturnineSkies 6 лет назад +6

      DillPickle2988 Every time you drop a survivor they gain progress on their wiggle bar. If you drop them three times they instantly get off when you pick them up

    • @sparrowapplications3954
      @sparrowapplications3954 6 лет назад +3

      that's true, but most of the times he got blinded he could have avoided it by looking at the wall. i never got more frustrated watching a video until this one haha

    • @Ari2011100
      @Ari2011100 6 лет назад

      isn't that an exploit?...if you don't look at a wall while standing next to one and the survivor has perfect timing, then they should get the blind

    • @sparrowapplications3954
      @sparrowapplications3954 6 лет назад +4

      Shayra733 ahahaha seriously dude? That’s like saying survivors hiding in tall grass is an exploit... killers have to do what it takes to avoid getting blinded.

    • @Ari2011100
      @Ari2011100 6 лет назад +1

      not really..and flashlights are annoying, but not that much of a problem. If you're *that* afraid of being blinded, maybe bring lightborn or franklins

  • @forgottenalex
    @forgottenalex 6 лет назад +81

    Quit holding back. If survivors are not going to then why should the killer.

    • @LalaRojas-jd5rc
      @LalaRojas-jd5rc 6 лет назад +7

      Splinks exactly why he'll lose sometimes.

    • @justmonika2345
      @justmonika2345 6 лет назад +15

      Splinks Yeah he outright loses games and gets BMed at the end because he chooses to play too nice instead of intelligently.

    • @aldousbetana6914
      @aldousbetana6914 6 лет назад +2

      Splinks Ive been telling that to panda so many times

    • @ayergutierrez3380
      @ayergutierrez3380 6 лет назад +1

      been rank 1 on both sides, I don't pallet loop that much or kill all survivors in certain games. sometimes being too competitive is boring, I like to make things fun

  • @hazi5961
    @hazi5961 6 лет назад +5

    I try not to dodge as a killer, but when I see 3 legacy prestige with flashlights, I'm dodging. I leave at 6 seconds if they haven't readied up cause I'm not dealing with that bully killer squad. Yeah, this proves killers need more buffs and only bad survivors are the ones complaining about the last patch.

  • @Lorri.
    @Lorri. 6 лет назад

    Omg that second game I literally screamed at my computer "JUST HIT HER" lol he kept trying to get a hatchet hit when they were literally 2" away

  • @0bs1n65
    @0bs1n65 6 лет назад +7

    you should have brought the iridescent heads to the second match xD

  • @theheartofgaming2180
    @theheartofgaming2180 6 лет назад

    that intro is the reason why i love this channel panda.

  • @JJesp107
    @JJesp107 6 лет назад +6

    I love playing as the huntress in DBD and I have gotten better at throwing hatchets so now some Survivors rage quit for me too

    • @adolfshitler3559
      @adolfshitler3559 6 лет назад

      John Esparza they only rage quit if you have iridescent heads, trust me, even when I annihilate a team and have 100% accuracy they won’t rage if I don’t have an IH

    • @skylarcandylife5628
      @skylarcandylife5628 6 лет назад

      I suck at throwing 😥😥😥

    • @JJesp107
      @JJesp107 6 лет назад

      adolf shitler not for me once this meg was on her last hook and she rage quit

    • @JJesp107
      @JJesp107 6 лет назад

      john michael valiente you can get better if you practice

  • @asterius7517
    @asterius7517 6 лет назад +26

    Still don't know why you don't face walls when you pick up survivors

    • @axelolord
      @axelolord 6 лет назад +3

      Dragon Gamer it doesn't help a lot. The angle the flashlight is efdective at is huge. As long as you can aim at his face, even at an angle so sharp he can't see the person with the flashlight it will blind killer.
      And lightborn also does nothing. I've already seen a few videos where killers had lightborn and a single survivor with flashlight still had enough time to flash him during the pickup into a stun before killer could do anything. Basically the only way for killer to win is for survivor to make a mistake, no matter how well the killer plays.

    • @asterius7517
      @asterius7517 6 лет назад +7

      Axelgrey do you even know anything about dbd

    • @axelolord
      @axelolord 6 лет назад +2

      Dragon Gamer yeah. I play daily. I deal with the same shit as Killer and I did the same shit as survivor before I started playing killer. I mean... It helps to look at the wall but it's not foolproof. In case of active lighters like those in this vid it would not do a lot.

    • @justmonika2345
      @justmonika2345 6 лет назад +7

      Axelgrey Facing a wall stops it 95% of the time instead of not facing the wall and leaving it up to the survivors skill.

  • @NezzyReview
    @NezzyReview 6 лет назад

    I never miss a panda video. My #1 DBD streamer

  • @MrAshMoney2
    @MrAshMoney2 6 лет назад

    Hey panda, what do you think about there being a perk for survivors that makes BBQ chili not work? Like not being visible when someone gets hooked?

  • @reborn6166
    @reborn6166 6 лет назад

    Holy Hell Hybrid, I could feel your frustration on that 2nd game. I really don't like that map either, so many twists and turns and obstacles. You played it better than I ever could. Great game

  • @agent_em
    @agent_em 6 лет назад +4

    I got secondhand stress from that last game

  • @AmazingNature4
    @AmazingNature4 6 лет назад

    He sounded so hurt when that meg wasn’t dead😭😭 23:20

  • @LordChrissyyy
    @LordChrissyyy 6 лет назад

    the survivors in that second game are proof that iridescent heads are perfectly ok to use

  • @zekeybear5323
    @zekeybear5323 5 лет назад

    Bringing the Iridescent Head should be mandatory now. It's one of the ways you can actually win now against a 4 man DS, Adrenaline, B.Time and 1 exhaust perk, which I find nearly every game now. But I dont play Huntress as much anymore so theres that. Lol

  • @LaughWithMeh
    @LaughWithMeh 6 лет назад

    overcharge has several problems though, 1 if the people you get matched with are good at hitting great skillchecks it does nothing, (also i believe it progresses the generator by 5% like an actual great skill check?), 2 it requires you to have map wide generator control and to be spending extra time at each of the gens kicking them, which is only really doable verses a disorganised team, or a team that doesn't play the best. number 2 is why ruin is more popular, because most killers are willing to bet crappy totem placement verses the unpredictability of having total match control.

  • @Mr.pantaloons
    @Mr.pantaloons 6 лет назад +2

    7:30 hybrid r u ok cause my great grandfather could see that and he’s clinically blind

  • @flapjack0708
    @flapjack0708 6 лет назад

    I love how panda says Laurie like lorry , Tesco lorry strode

  • @ScarFearz
    @ScarFearz 6 лет назад

    Once I saw the 2 flashlights I was like "Dude, go for Iridescent hatchets, they're not worth it".

  • @Erik-ho7hi
    @Erik-ho7hi 6 лет назад

    7:29 another classic HalfBlindPanda moment

  • @Mutantdogfangs
    @Mutantdogfangs 6 лет назад

    Game 1: omg i actually feel bad for survivors. SURVIVORS! can u believe?
    Game 2: karma. Well now im over it

  • @tiltian6536
    @tiltian6536 6 лет назад

    7:30 did he not see that Laurie chillin when He was kicking that gen?

  • @siblingvlogs4147
    @siblingvlogs4147 6 лет назад

    I love watching this channel it makes me so happy 😁

  • @extonjonas6820
    @extonjonas6820 6 лет назад

    i thought brand new parts dont work fully anymore, how did tey finish so quickly first game?

  • @thatoneloafofbread9862
    @thatoneloafofbread9862 6 лет назад +1

    Wait is this before the 2.1.0 update? The pickup time looks really slow like pre-patch

  • @nottoastyet9981
    @nottoastyet9981 6 лет назад +1

    I can’t believe he missed the lori when he kicked that gen lol

    • @mariolopez7362
      @mariolopez7362 6 лет назад

      Almost Toast I think he is blind but I missed her to lol

  • @bsmitty309
    @bsmitty309 6 лет назад

    Do you have to be a certain level or anything to damage generators? I cannot do it and can’t really find any info on it

    • @astraycat112
      @astraycat112 6 лет назад

      No, you don't have to be a certain level. Sometimes it can take a second to get the prompt, and I've found that I have to be directly facing the side of the generator (meaning you can't be at any kind of angle). I've also found that if I don't get the "Damage" prompt standing at one side, I will if I stand at another. I also made the mistake a couple of times of not HOLDING DOWN Space for the duration of the damage animation. Don't know if any of that helps, but I hope it does. :)

    • @bsmitty309
      @bsmitty309 6 лет назад

      AStrayCat thanks lots man! I was definitely just rushing before it would prompt, went up and stood right in front of it without moving and now I’m damaging generators left right and centre😈🙌🏻

  • @Cheletiba
    @Cheletiba 6 лет назад

    >let's not use the toxic build
    >next match toxic survivors
    Let this be a lesson to you Panda. Murphy hates you. Prepare accordingly. No mercy for survivors.

  • @IceColdDevil
    @IceColdDevil 6 лет назад

    I like this new challenge that you do with the new account, but thought it'd be more of a free to play-ish challenge, where you don't buy the DLC packages with the killers/survivors, but try collecting iridescent shards to buy them.

    • @astraycat112
      @astraycat112 6 лет назад +1

      I think that may have been the plan originally, but then people from his stream gifted him all the DLC's lol

  • @animatedmeta7755
    @animatedmeta7755 6 лет назад

    Lmao 2and game you could hear him spamming his keyboard trying to grab hatchets and kicking gens ;D

  • @mikemike4277
    @mikemike4277 6 лет назад

    Bruh i come back to watch this vid daily for when he says at 19:30 ohh u little bitch when he gets flashlighted I literally lose it 😂😂

  • @jefflavere8213
    @jefflavere8213 6 лет назад

    Why do you not like iridescent heads? Is it just because of the rage you get or what

  • @malvanra99
    @malvanra99 6 лет назад

    This may sound weird but I kinda want you to add an eye tracker so we can see where you’re looking and when

  • @jamalstar4243
    @jamalstar4243 6 лет назад +4

    Question. How is iridescent toxic? I mean its 1 hit down, but who cares? Billy has a chainsaw with 1 hit and leather without the add on so i dont get it.

    • @BLOODWOLF-zd4km
      @BLOODWOLF-zd4km 6 лет назад +7

      Darklord Heeroku but that can't throw there chainsaw lol

    • @jamalstar4243
      @jamalstar4243 6 лет назад +2

      BLOODWOLF 1430 ok? And the huntress hachets aren't tracking you.

    • @frankenstone4719
      @frankenstone4719 6 лет назад +1

      Darklord Heeroku neither their chainsaw

    • @xtexaschainsawx
      @xtexaschainsawx 6 лет назад

      @@BLOODWOLF-zd4km YA YEET

  • @RedComet26
    @RedComet26 6 лет назад

    That second game Panda... I hope you learned your lesson on not trying to be too nice

    • @casper3640
      @casper3640 6 лет назад

      Wdym? Do u want him to tunnel and camp?

  • @kimilovesbats
    @kimilovesbats 6 лет назад

    Thanks! I love Overcharge on my Doci.

  • @TokimekiLove
    @TokimekiLove 6 лет назад

    Great hustle at the last match. Great redemption knockouts on flashlight users.

    • @casper3640
      @casper3640 6 лет назад

      Flashlight is fine if u flashlight save and dont pallet/window blind its not toxic

  • @learobinson4627
    @learobinson4627 6 лет назад

    Bro, what is that music after the first set? Also gg ✨

  • @johntoye6602
    @johntoye6602 6 лет назад +2

    PANDA please try my build. Its pop goes the weasel, overcharge, brutal strength and fire up. You could trade out the fire up for bbq and chilli though. I think you can see what i was going for, i ran it on the Hag didn't work out for me but i'm not rank one sooo.

  • @miseriesangel
    @miseriesangel 6 лет назад

    Usually, Im happy with panda's decision to not bring in Ultra Rare add-ons for the huntress, but that second match. . . . . That second match, needed to have the fear of killer god struck into them.

  • @dawnsmith4364
    @dawnsmith4364 6 лет назад

    The second game, Claudette with the blue shirt and legacy, KooriChi is a streamer too lmao.

  • @mrduckojr6027
    @mrduckojr6027 6 лет назад

    Thx you I love these vids I'm glad you actually read my comment and made another your a god and I'mma going to watch your vids forever

  • @Suppingtons
    @Suppingtons 6 лет назад

    7:31 Laurie was right there

  • @Savagewolf-kx1de
    @Savagewolf-kx1de 4 года назад

    God I would literally rage quit to be in your shoes your a trooper for even liking that game I got a headache watching it

  • @gracebailey4408
    @gracebailey4408 6 лет назад

    Love the music panda❤️❤️

  • @noahduller6646
    @noahduller6646 6 лет назад

    How can You get that Speed Boost as a Killer? Always Just before You Hit a survivor

    • @aleksbb2537
      @aleksbb2537 6 лет назад

      Noah Duller lunging by holding attack button

    • @noahduller6646
      @noahduller6646 6 лет назад

      Physics is my life oh thanks i didnt know that

    • @aleksbb2537
      @aleksbb2537 6 лет назад

      Noah Duller no problem man

  • @YasuoWong
    @YasuoWong 6 лет назад

    I can feel Panda is very pissed in this video

  • @ssams24
    @ssams24 6 лет назад +26

    Pls do more iridescent head vids!

  • @MarsInvader12
    @MarsInvader12 6 лет назад

    Open the door, get on the floor. Everyone do the dinosaur!

  • @vers-over1886
    @vers-over1886 6 лет назад

    I did not know that on the closet or locker or how u call it i did not know why the hatchets where there in the first place so that how people get more

  • @yellow8284
    @yellow8284 6 лет назад

    both games were painful to watch in their own way xD but i love it!

  • @theyfwkev8266
    @theyfwkev8266 6 лет назад

    hey panda i was a long time watcher but for some reason i haven't been watching your videos for a couple videos now i will try to post a pun out of every one of your next dead by daylight videos. This video is [ i bet the huntress's favorite thing to do is get deer

  • @MWFifa1998
    @MWFifa1998 6 лет назад

    How do you get that Game so bright? Mine is way to dark..

  • @superpanda6960
    @superpanda6960 6 лет назад +12

    Do more trapper killer

  • @joeyD213
    @joeyD213 6 лет назад

    Wow, you murdered them that first game...Nice.!!!👍👍👍

  • @katabinlagging768
    @katabinlagging768 6 лет назад +1

    Hey Panda ! are you Gonna Play Detroit Become Human ? i've watched your Until dawn series and it was great , hoping to see you play Detroit !

  • @thirteen5298
    @thirteen5298 6 лет назад

    Was this before the 2.1.0 update cause the pickup animation seems slower then it is now.

    • @Ari2011100
      @Ari2011100 6 лет назад

      yes. Like he said in the video, he is in germany at the moment, so this is pre-recorded

  • @datuhhhh
    @datuhhhh 6 лет назад

    7:30 - The blindness is real.

  • @spooky_binch6103
    @spooky_binch6103 6 лет назад +20

    32nd comment :)
    Also panda if your reading this, Laurie might not be a good hider but you sure as hell aren’t a good seeker, I’m sure you noticed while editing ggwp

    • @datuhhhh
      @datuhhhh 6 лет назад +3

      "32nd comment"

  • @xxbigbustycoonxx5234
    @xxbigbustycoonxx5234 6 лет назад

    At 11:09 if listen carefully u can hear a text message and I thought my phone was broken and sending messages to random people until I played it agin

  • @Ishimqru_Sora
    @Ishimqru_Sora 6 лет назад

    7:30 when your trying to sneak away bit your to slow😂😂

  • @diegobahena1274
    @diegobahena1274 6 лет назад

    you got me bitting my nails so hard omg

  • @brado2123
    @brado2123 6 лет назад +1

    I just refreshed cuz this videos views were on like 99,900s and it suddenly went on 100k

  • @xaviersanchez7992
    @xaviersanchez7992 6 лет назад +3

    How did you not see that Laurie by the generator?😂

  • @Eric-zs2xf
    @Eric-zs2xf 6 лет назад

    That round was a OchiDo video from the other side.

  • @classit261
    @classit261 6 лет назад

    I love it when you use rage builds

  • @professorsucc2255
    @professorsucc2255 6 лет назад

    I loveeee your dead by daylight videos. I look forward to these

  • @avy0226
    @avy0226 6 лет назад

    1st game: Merciless build against potatoes
    2nd game: Merciful build against swf asswipes xD

  • @kingcronic1999
    @kingcronic1999 6 лет назад

    Love when you play huntress love them headshots total domination

  • @glorytoarstotzka330
    @glorytoarstotzka330 6 лет назад

    how do you make these thumbmails , for me looks impossible

  • @dante8999
    @dante8999 6 лет назад

    You can drop the survivor before the flashlight can save. Just spam drop and they literally can't get the save

  • @andres11841
    @andres11841 6 лет назад

    Loving the videos ❤

  • @ajawilkinson8930
    @ajawilkinson8930 6 лет назад

    I saw lory ( I know I spelled that wrong) behind the tree when he picked up david lol

  • @tooth2887
    @tooth2887 6 лет назад

    7:31 SHE WAS RIGHT NEXT TO HIM

  • @HH-rn5sb
    @HH-rn5sb 6 лет назад

    Watching you kill them all is so satisfying

  • @dronabarathan964
    @dronabarathan964 6 лет назад

    how did he not see the laurie crouching when he was kicking the gen

  • @danielvazquez5325
    @danielvazquez5325 6 лет назад

    Hybrid they straight TROLL you my guy 😭😭

  • @menaceiwill1
    @menaceiwill1 6 лет назад

    7.25 ish Laurie hiding behind generater with big white tool box you fool panda 😥

  • @omsmada
    @omsmada 6 лет назад

    7:30 lmao how did you not see laurie

  • @GoForCodie
    @GoForCodie 6 лет назад

    Panda you're honestly the best

  • @KxxriChi
    @KxxriChi 6 лет назад +2

    I remember that game D:

  • @wub6266
    @wub6266 6 лет назад

    What’s the outro song in this video

  • @sarahwithstars
    @sarahwithstars 6 лет назад +1

    Whoa wait
    What is get on the floor, do the dinosaur?

    • @jeremyphelps5140
      @jeremyphelps5140 6 лет назад

      sarahwithstars it's actually "open the door, get on the floor, everybody walk the dinosaur" it's a by Was (Was not). I could be wrong, but I think it was popularized by the 1993 Mario bros movie. At least that's where I first heard it :)

  • @blondecultistRAT
    @blondecultistRAT 6 лет назад

    I love how he's trying to be nice AS killer.

  • @Betonsilva
    @Betonsilva 6 лет назад

    Very nice video panda just don't forget to look at walls is you know they have flash lights 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @Oofscar
    @Oofscar 6 лет назад

    Who else thought baby shark when panda said lets go hunt

  • @xSoporific1
    @xSoporific1 6 лет назад

    7:31 *BOI*

  • @EgoCityGamingUK
    @EgoCityGamingUK 6 лет назад +4

    The only reason the last 2 survived is you let them, sometimes your play style needs to change, I’m all for not camping or tunnelling but when the survivors are clearly being muppets it’s fine to give them the same back. Also I noticed you don’t look at walls when picking survivors up, personally I feel you are aware of this and do it to give them a chance and make the videos more interesting but personally I love a good massacre.

  • @Spartiatai300
    @Spartiatai300 6 лет назад +1

    What if Iridescent Head instead forced survivors in Borrowed Time, still would be a one shot kill but requires you to chase a little longer.