Excellent video. Clearly stated and a clear demonstration. Hannah makes an important point. It's not rocket science, her instructions make the whole process very understandable. I don't use my torque wrench to install or remove fasteners. I use a regular wrench for that. I only use my torque wrench to check the final tightening of a nut or bolt.
Hopefully Brompton will be persuaded to make a similar nice lightweight rack for classic Bromptons, rather than let third parties get the custom, it seems very surprising that they didn't develop them in parallel...
Huge thanks for the video. I was tempted to get this for my C line but didn't know it doesn't fit. Really wanted to improve the rolling on my brompton but I don't need a full rack for that. Time to look at aftermarket options...
H: we will try without removing the wheel.. because people don't like taking ... *cut scene.... taking what? taking selfie? taking money? taking lunch? taking a close up? taking a bushing out??? hahaha very detailed installation
Hi dear lady and bless you for your very helpful videos. Thanks to this one, I got my advance roller rack installed onto my C Line Electric in no time the other day. However, I have a question and you may be able to help. As we know, this model has front and rear wired pre-installed dynamo lighting and in order to install the rack I had to remove the rear reflector light and temporarily tape the wire. Therefore, is there an adapter mount available that could allow me to re-install that light at the same place or does it now have to be a different option, perhaps the rear battery lamp and replace the basic reflector that the rack came with? Hope my question makes sense. Thank you.
Thanks for watching - and the comment With the introduction of the T Line and P line came a new rear end ... this rear triangle is actually compatible with the main frame on earlier models, but the parts on the new rear are not compatible with the old rear (e.g. the suspension block is different, the new triangle accepts the 4 speed derailleur whereas the old triangle accepts the 2 speed derailleur) The newest Brompton Electric (4 and 12 speed) also uses the new rear triangle - only in steel instead of the titanium version used on the P/T Lines - but the frame is the same
Thx for the helpful video! Would you be able to do a video on how to replace the seatpost insert sleeve (slipping), and what tools are required? Thanks!
It is better not to use your torque wrench as a general wrench to undo and tighten bolts. Only use it for torquing up bolts so it doesn’t prematurely fall out if calibration.
Very happy to see this, after searching for comments on the rack. I wonder if you could answer this, I would take the p-line on an off the train daily and I'm not sure the mudguard is up to the constant pressure on an off it. On my old Brompton I had a rack, but it was a weight so now I'm stuck between two worlds, even with this rack being so little in weight. The other thing, you have the S handlebars on it which look wicked, how was that ridding after a couple of miles for your back and arms? Any ideas
Brompton are normally really good at product testing, so I expect / hope the mudguards will last! The Low bars I find comfortable, but I’m short (5 ft 6) so it’s not too low for me. The best is to take one for a test ride 😀
Hello, I enjoy all your videos. Thanks for creating and sharing these videos with us. One quick question - which torque wrench you use in your videos? I want to buy one so that I apply the correct amount of torque (Nm) when I work on my bromptons. Thanks again.
It would take a mobile attack to be fixed to the triangle... However the height of the wheels is not exploited, when it rolls it almost touches the ground
We deliberately didn't have racks fitted on our Bromptons as when you flip the rear wheel under the frame which we both do fairly often, you'd have to remove any bag or luggage first. This to us, makes it pointless having a rack. Just saying - ! 😁
Good video, well done as usual, may I ask the feed back regarding the P- line version is head and shoulders above the other versions in all areas , it would be nice to see a comparison video be it on flat roads or hills and a day real life = carrying up and down bus, stairs, etc, also can you fit the old rack on the P - line because we all know much better rack or is that a secret ? Where’s the song it’s coming as always = Hey Rock and Roll = Showaddywaddy.
C line rack is 3 lbs & this P line rack is about 6 oz ( check out the weight difference on Brompton website, P line) Of course the C line rack look stronger ( not sure the weight capacity ) but overall - the load I carry is no more than maximum capacity, say 10 kg. I would prefer to have this P rack (max 10 kg ?) on my C line.
@@talktodaveuk Sorry not sure what you mean regarding the electric Brompton, I would be guessing if you mean my comments about the P - line being heads and shoulders above the other version that’s the feed back I’ve received but only on the none electric versions but would be happy if you have an opinion on the normal electric and P - line electric ,
Sorry not clear , I was wondering what’s the best rack for the electric Brompton (to be honest I’m a newbie and get versions confused). Love the videos was one of the reasons I got an electric Brompton:)
Oh so many comments to respond to in one go We plan to make a video comparing the 4 speed with the 6 speed. The weight of the P Line rack is only 341g Both have a maximum capacity of 10kg The standard aluminium rack should be fitted to the C Line electric Hope that’s all questions? Thank you for watching!
Many thanks for watching. Yes they do a rack bag, link as follows: brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-rear-racks-and-rack-spares/5323-brompton-rear-racksack.html We also found one with pannier fold out flaps that’s kind of cool: brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-rear-racks-and-rack-spares/4225-madison-rack-top-bag-with-fold-out-pannier-pockets.html And worked OK on a Brompton
looks like you could even attach some panier bags (like Ortlieb gravel) to the new rack due to its round struts. However having an older Brompton I have no problem using a third party lightweight rack on it as Brompton seems not to be interested in providing one. May I ask, whats the weight of this Advanced rack?
Would a rack like this one also fit a pre-letter brompton - I have the 2017 or 2018 model without rear rack and now I think I wouldn’t mind having one… Thank you.
No the Advance rack will not fit the C Line or earlier Brompton. You would need the older style rack - Brompton rear carrier / rack set, link as follows: brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-rear-carrier-bits/2534-brompton-rear-carrier-set-black.html
Hi brilliant bikes , you are professional on Brompton bikes but kind of disappointed that you don’t even knew that all Brompton rear wheels are offset to the drive side …
Hi - thanks for watching We haven’t made the video on wheel building for the Brompton (yet) it’s been years in the making !!! We’re wondering where your comment came from?
Thanks for watching and the great question The distance is 50mm the same as with the previous versions of Brompton reflectors / lights Yes - there are other lights available that will fit
Thanks for watching and for the great question short answer: No The advance rack will only fit the advance rear frame / triangle as used on the P Line and T Line All other Brompton bikes - A Line / B75 / C Line / previous super light models don’t have the correct fixing points on the rear frame - but can be fitted with the standard rear rack
It’s a shame they won’t let you upgrade the parts on an older Brompton to accommodate these. Plus the easy wheels need to be like roller wheels on a suitcase so it’s easier to manoeuvre. Wake up to this Brompton 🤬🤬🤬
Please do not ever attach a Brompton to a stand by its seat post. Always attach by the mainframe. As soon as I see anyone hang a Brompton by the seat post, I realise they know or care nothing about Bromptons.
I like watching these vids when I work on my own bike
Thank you for watching!
Excellent video. Clearly stated and a clear demonstration. Hannah makes an important point. It's not rocket science, her instructions make the whole process very understandable. I don't use my torque wrench to install or remove fasteners. I use a regular wrench for that. I only use my torque wrench to check the final tightening of a nut or bolt.
Many thanks!!! And thank you for watching!!
i have the regular brompton and just watch the bloopers which is very entertaining 😄
Thank you for watching!
This is more relaxing than the Great British Baking Show.
😀. We agree bicycles are much more relaxing than baking 😀
Hopefully Brompton will be persuaded to make a similar nice lightweight rack for classic Bromptons, rather than let third parties get the custom, it seems very surprising that they didn't develop them in parallel...
I fitted the excellent Ace rear rack to my M6L. Much better the heavy and fugly Brompton rear rack.
@@alexmorgan3435 Hey Alex, can you post the model of the Ace rear rack that you installed? I'm thinking of doing the same thing.
love your videos guys. especially the outtakes 😂 thank you! ❤
Thank you and thank you for watching!
Thank you! This is the same shape as the new C line electric (2024) (I’d bought the older C-line rack first in error)
I know it’s got a bit confusing! The newer C line electric has the same shape rear triangle as the P line
Thanks for watching!
Love the noise made when unwrapping the bits!! Stay Safe!!
It’s like Christmas early 😀
Thank you for watching (again 😀)
Thank you, I used this to install my roller rack.
Thank you for watching!
Thank you! Great video.
So glad it helped! Thank you for watching!
Huge thanks for the video. I was tempted to get this for my C line but didn't know it doesn't fit. Really wanted to improve the rolling on my brompton but I don't need a full rack for that. Time to look at aftermarket options...
So glad it helped! Thanks for watching!
Thank you and LOVE the outtakes!
😀. Thank you for watching all the way through!
Nice presentation and tonic for an October morning, thank you 😘
Thank you so much! Hope you’re having a good week!
Another great video about brompton
Thank you 🙏
H:
we will try without removing the wheel..
because people don't like taking ...
*cut scene....
taking what?
taking selfie? taking money?
taking lunch? taking a close up?
taking a bushing out???
hahaha
very detailed installation
Whoops! We cut me short! Taking the wheel out….
Ace video Hannah!
One day I'll have a P or T...
The P Line is awesome!
Thanks for watching l!
I’d live dangerously, I would have kept my torque wrench at 2nm and not lower it to 1.5nm , I’m bit of a maverick 😗
😂 LOL! Thanks for watching!
I love this English lady.. ❤
What’s not to love. She’s a rock star !!
Thank you both for making me smile and for watching!
@@brilliantbikes As always.. Blessed 😇
Your a Doll, love your videos. Thanks
Thank you for watching!
Hi dear lady and bless you for your very helpful videos. Thanks to this one, I got my advance roller rack installed onto my C Line Electric in no time the other day. However, I have a question and you may be able to help. As we know, this model has front and rear wired pre-installed dynamo lighting and in order to install the rack I had to remove the rear reflector light and temporarily tape the wire. Therefore, is there an adapter mount available that could allow me to re-install that light at the same place or does it now have to be a different option, perhaps the rear battery lamp and replace the basic reflector that the rack came with? Hope my question makes sense. Thank you.
Loved that satisfying click
What weight does it add? I guess it's not Ti
It weighs 341g so does not add much weight at all!
Thanks for the question we really should have covered that!
Great show
Another excellent video, although perhaps an addendum for the Electric version (dealing withe light) perchance ???
Oh that’s a good idea! Thanks for the suggestion and for watching!
I always thought every upgrade fitted every Brompton, right back to the very old models.
Thanks for watching - and the comment
With the introduction of the T Line and P line came a new rear end ... this rear triangle is actually compatible with the main frame on earlier models, but the parts on the new rear are not compatible with the old rear (e.g. the suspension block is different, the new triangle accepts the 4 speed derailleur whereas the old triangle accepts the 2 speed derailleur)
The newest Brompton Electric (4 and 12 speed) also uses the new rear triangle - only in steel instead of the titanium version used on the P/T Lines - but the frame is the same
Thx for the helpful video! Would you be able to do a video on how to replace the seatpost insert sleeve (slipping), and what tools are required? Thanks!
Good clip!
Many thanks and thanks for watching!
It is better not to use your torque wrench as a general wrench to undo and tighten bolts. Only use it for torquing up bolts so it doesn’t prematurely fall out if calibration.
Very happy to see this, after searching for comments on the rack. I wonder if you could answer this, I would take the p-line on an off the train daily and I'm not sure the mudguard is up to the constant pressure on an off it. On my old Brompton I had a rack, but it was a weight so now I'm stuck between two worlds, even with this rack being so little in weight. The other thing, you have the S handlebars on it which look wicked, how was that ridding after a couple of miles for your back and arms? Any ideas
Brompton are normally really good at product testing, so I expect / hope the mudguards will last!
The Low bars I find comfortable, but I’m short (5 ft 6) so it’s not too low for me. The best is to take one for a test ride 😀
Hello, I enjoy all your videos. Thanks for creating and sharing these videos with us. One quick question - which torque wrench you use in your videos? I want to buy one so that I apply the correct amount of torque (Nm) when I work on my bromptons. Thanks again.
I love her videos. I am 🇧🇷.
I love Brompton Bikes. I got 2🤩🤩🤩🤩
Thank you so much for watching!
Are you planning on doing a video for the "Rack set complete incl 4 rollers + mudguard - 6mm holes" for the A and C line?
Many thanks for the suggestion! We have meant to do that for a while now!!!
Thanks for watching!
It would take a mobile attack to be fixed to the triangle... However the height of the wheels is not exploited, when it rolls it almost touches the ground
Thanks for the install tips! It made the job easy. Do you know of any rechargeable rear lights that would fit this rack to replace the reflector?
Thank you for showing details and talking slowly. What was a brand tool box?
Good Video
Many thanks and thank you for watching!
We deliberately didn't have racks fitted on our Bromptons as when you flip the rear wheel under the frame which we both do fairly often, you'd have to remove any bag or luggage first. This to us, makes it pointless having a rack.
Just saying - ! 😁
Can we install a brompton rack to a C-Line in the same way, without taking down the rear wheel ? My target bike is a C-Line 3 speed. Thanks.
Good video, well done as usual, may I ask the feed back regarding the P- line version is head and shoulders above the other versions in all areas , it would be nice to see a comparison video be it on flat roads or hills and a day real life = carrying up and down bus, stairs, etc, also can you fit the old rack on the P - line because we all know much better rack or is that a secret ? Where’s the song it’s coming as always = Hey Rock and Roll = Showaddywaddy.
C line rack is 3 lbs & this P line rack is about 6 oz ( check out the weight difference on Brompton website, P line)
Of course the C line rack look stronger ( not sure the weight capacity ) but overall - the load I carry is no more than maximum capacity, say 10 kg. I would prefer to have this P rack (max 10 kg ?) on my C line.
What about on the electric Brompton?
@@talktodaveuk Sorry not sure what you mean regarding the electric Brompton, I would be guessing if you mean my comments about the P - line being heads and shoulders above the other version that’s the feed back I’ve received but only on the none electric versions but would be happy if you have an opinion on the normal electric and P - line electric ,
Sorry not clear , I was wondering what’s the best rack for the electric Brompton (to be honest I’m a newbie and get versions confused). Love the videos was one of the reasons I got an electric Brompton:)
Oh so many comments to respond to in one go
We plan to make a video comparing the 4 speed with the 6 speed.
The weight of the P Line rack is only 341g
Both have a maximum capacity of 10kg
The standard aluminium rack should be fitted to the C Line electric
Hope that’s all questions?
Thank you for watching!
Will the uniklip system bags work with this rack? I see that it is not parallel like the original ones.
So sorry we are not familiar with the unclip system bags, so cannot say for sure.
Thanks for watching!!
Your videos are great. Just curious do they make bags or panniers for the rack? Thanks.
Many thanks for watching. Yes they do a rack bag, link as follows:
brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-rear-racks-and-rack-spares/5323-brompton-rear-racksack.html
We also found one with pannier fold out flaps that’s kind of cool:
brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-rear-racks-and-rack-spares/4225-madison-rack-top-bag-with-fold-out-pannier-pockets.html
And worked OK on a Brompton
@@brilliantbikes Thank You for the inputs. Great answers n video again.
Thanks for the video, what is the net added weight of the added rack and swapped mudguards and removed stays?
looks like you could even attach some panier bags (like Ortlieb gravel) to the new rack due to its round struts. However having an older Brompton I have no problem using a third party lightweight rack on it as Brompton seems not to be interested in providing one. May I ask, whats the weight of this Advanced rack?
Will Brompton's rear rear light (battery) attach to the bracket holding the reflector in this video?
Would a rack like this one also fit a pre-letter brompton - I have the 2017 or 2018 model without rear rack and now I think I wouldn’t mind having one… Thank you.
No the Advance rack will not fit the C Line or earlier Brompton. You would need the older style rack - Brompton rear carrier / rack set, link as follows: brilliantbikes.co.uk/brompton-rear-carrier-bits/2534-brompton-rear-carrier-set-black.html
Did you use a torque wrench to undo a couple of bolts?
Yes it’s an awesome torque wrench that you can revert to undo! Love it!
Hi brilliant bikes , you are professional on Brompton bikes but kind of disappointed that you don’t even knew that all Brompton rear wheels are offset to the drive side …
Hi - thanks for watching
We haven’t made the video on wheel building for the Brompton (yet) it’s been years in the making !!!
We’re wondering where your comment came from?
thank you for this video. Does it fit on my M6L?
Many thanks for the question. No sorry it will not fit a C Line M6L as the Advance rack attaches to the frame of the P Line
Where can I source a torque wrench like the one in the video?
Couldn't you just use P-clips on the C-line to mount the rack? Seems simple enough.
Whats the distance between the bolts of the reflectors? I want to know whether there are lights that would fit into the reflector spot.
Thanks for watching and the great question
The distance is 50mm the same as with the previous versions of Brompton reflectors / lights
Yes - there are other lights available that will fit
Thank you!!
Close-ups? Where are the close-ups? We want our close-ups!!! 🤗
(Please note: Reverb will reduce as you get more stuff in there.)
😀 thank you! It’s filling up!
There's no way I put a rack on my P line personally because it's going to get heavier
Anyway great video
Thank for watching!
Funny I thought the same! It is only 341g, so not much and it does roll so well!
Can you post a list of tools you used?
Thank you for the video manual, but how to fix the rack on a P Line Electric, special the backlight with the mudguard?
I'm interested on it too. please
I had the same problem and found that Brompton has published a short video for this extra step ruclips.net/video/uUjdA40o91Q/видео.html
Hi! Do you know if Brompton will be bringing out bungee cords? Or could you recommend any/demonstrate please?
Would RokStraps be any use to you Adam? I swear by them for use on my motorcycle. They are available in various lengths
@@williamrutter4058 cheers William. Great idea - I will look in to these.
When will you have stock?
The Advance roller rack is currently in stock 😀
Thanks for the question and for watching!
Is the C line the same as the A line?
Frame is the same, the difference are the components.
Many thanks for watching and the question / answer!
Do the new mudguards fit a c line?
Yes
Thank you both for watching and the question / answer
Glad to know they fit, how does the rear cut out look on the C Line - do you notice it?
Do you sell one?
We do they are listed on the website 😀
@@brilliantbikes Thanks
Thought the rule of thumb is to hold a Brompton by the frame than the seat post.
Many thanks for the question. It is OK as long as you are careful not to scratch the seat post.
Will this fit to an A line?
Thanks for watching and for the great question
short answer: No
The advance rack will only fit the advance rear frame / triangle as used on the P Line and T Line
All other Brompton bikes - A Line / B75 / C Line / previous super light models don’t have the correct fixing points on the rear frame - but can be fitted with the standard rear rack
@6:10 @6:24 a glitch in the matrix? 🙂
"Lot's of people" shouldn't be in same sentence as T-line, which is reserved for scalpers
I think you need a gin and tonic.
Ooohhhh yes please 🙏
It’s a shame they won’t let you upgrade the parts on an older Brompton to accommodate these. Plus the easy wheels need to be like roller wheels on a suitcase so it’s easier to manoeuvre. Wake up to this Brompton 🤬🤬🤬
Please do not ever attach a Brompton to a stand by its seat post. Always attach by the mainframe. As soon as I see anyone hang a Brompton by the seat post, I realise they know or care nothing about Bromptons.