This korean actress said in an interview that the role she got in china has literally got her her house in one the most luxurious apartment compounds in korea and continues to feed her to this day
@@ikramahmed5479 I think her name is Go joon-hee. She mentioned this in a variety show(?) called Don’t forget your breakfast with Jang sungkyu She said the pay in china is 10x more (figuratively speaking)
Also, Jay Park talked about it, when he was invited to Rap of China - 'The 'Rap of China' production team said they would give me 1000 times what 'Show me the Money' would give me and told me to come to China to film. However, I stayed in Korea and filmed in Korea after receiving 10 times less than what I would've received. -
But then they also taxes heavily on actors and entertainers in China. Taxes evasion also considered a huge things and sometimes you can get fine a lot and it can cost them a career too. Same thing happened to Fan Bing Bing and even till today she still can’t recover from her era due to this.
China and japan were the only ones to support t ara when they got unjustly black listed from korea. China cares for t ara and i gotta thank them for that
Gidle Yuqi is setting herself up for a good career after since she’s been promoting a lot in China. Cheng Xiao did the same while she was in her group and still is doing great after leaving. I love watching Chinese historical dramas and she had some really good ones.
I hate to breka it yo u, but fiys tanked in china and she git criticized so much for her acting n didnt get drama project for a long time cause of it @@kiranrenu1752
i was like holy shit snsd cant be that old but i just remembered that they started touring by 2009.. WHICH IS TWO DECADES AGO 😭 but at the same time, holy fucking shit they were so young cus like theyre all still in their early-30s
@@deranged_miyeon_stanokay but when someone says decades ago that would mean 3 decades minimum which would be 30 years. A decade refers to 10 years which could mean 2007-2017 and not necessarily 2010-2020 (every 10 years) so snsd isn’t even 2 decades lol
I believe that SNSD is the first Kpop girl group to have soldout tickets in Tokyo Dome. My Japanese friend said they attended their concerts and SNSD were majestic and were singing live.
@@6Euphoria6lol that’s not true… lay most influential coop artist + government ambassador and richest artist now ) stop lying ) Luhan doesn’t even have half of half lay endorsements
@ahilesahilesov2112 Can you not act like u know ur shit if u dont even know a word of Chinese. Im Chinese, ok. The slang top traffic is created bc of him, his dating announcement broke weibo's sysetm, the fans that left him can feed half the c-ent circle. Ask any Chinese. You dont even have to be his fan to know his the pioneer of top traffic. Lay only gain an upperhand bc of what happened to wyf and ztao. You intl fans rlly in a bubble. Whenever its cn entertainment, you always assume ppl popular in intl community is the top in China, even tho they can only connect as up and coming. I still remember the shock when a international cdrama fan recated in shock when I told them Cheng Yi is 2nd only to xz. Well just bc international viewers dont care for him doesnt mean hes not well loved in China. These 2 groups love VERY different things. Take otome game Love and Deepspace for example. Zayne is most popular in global players and Rafayel is least, in China its the totally opposite. Rafayel is most popular by a landslide while Zayne is at the bottom of the food chain.
Yes why not ? when his member going to military he with the8 can go back to china to promote themselves and also for the group. In Korea not have many schedules for them.
Mostly Chinese idols don't last that long in Korea but the fact Junhao is still part of SVT tells about his love and loyalty for svt. Best thing happened when 13 of them renewed their contract a year before the due date. Mad respect to svt
nothings wrong, while korean members will be in military duties, its actually good for them to return china as they wish. also, while some do military service its normal for others to do individual jobs. example- got7, bts and list continues.
tbh slay. if sm aint giving him the spot then its better for him to just stand on his own feet.hopefully the rest of the wayv members does too,actually the whole nct
Wang Yibo is still a part of UNIQ. Except Seungyeon/WOODZ, all the members are still under UNIQ’s label “Yuehua Entertainment”. The group never disbanded too. The members are pursuing their own solo careers to find success in their own way. They want to make a comeback but they couldn’t as their group isn’t as successful as their own solo careers. This is why YueHua never really cared for UNIQ’s group activities. So no one left the group but pursuing their solo careers.
Lay’s loyalty to EXO isn’t talked about enough. He literally had to give a huge chunk(40% is Lay’s salary and 60% goes to SM if im not mistaken) of his profit from his hard work in China to SM entertainment since 2017 until his 10-year contract ended with them recently even though he was banned to do group activities with his members(he doesn’t get paid for group activities w/o him) and the other exo members were banned in promoting with him as a group in China as well. But he didn’t want to leave exo, could have terminated and filed a case with SM like the other chinese members did but he stuck to his word of not leaving exo and remained loyal even if he got the short end of the stick. So timeline was 2012-2022: exo members’ 10-year contract (minus enlistment years for korean members) 2015: SM sets up lay’s independent studio in china to start his solo career in china whilst in exo 2016: launching of solo careers of lay in china and exo-cbx in kr (other members in the ff years, 2019 for exo-sc, chen, baekhyun, 2020 for kai, suho, 2021 for D.O., 2022 for xiumin, 2024 for chanyeol etc.) 2017-2024: height of political tension of china-south korea up until 2024 when the ban was starting to be lifted so he had to drop all his korean promotions from here onwards (it’s why Lay FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS was ONLY able to promote as an artist again for his solo in korean music shows this 2024😭) SM had set up an independent studio in china for Lay back in 2015 under SM entertainment as the first member to launch his solo career but SM gets this huge percentage of the revenues and they while they gave him assistance to establish it, a big motive for SM was that they were scared that lay may leave SM AS WELL, following the 3 chinese members who left in 2014-2015 and lose EXO’s momentum and huge fanbase in china. They did that so lay can have the creative freedom for his solo music in china while staying with SM and they couldn’t afford to lose the chinese revenues (since we know celebs there earn a TON more than korea). Their other motive ofc was that lay will earn them money if he simultaneously works as exo + release solo music. So in the beginning, they wanted to use the money he will earn in china. Chen: “Lay hyung always tried his best to do everything with us while going back and forth to china. He must have been under a lot of stress that we didn’t know but he never showed it to us. He always thinks about EXO amidst his busy schedules. I am always thankful towards Lay hyung who wants to do and tries to do everything with us.” Within 2015-2017, Lay continued to gain popularity in China even becoming an important public figure as a chinese youth ambassador for their country. The backlash would be too much for him and exo if they interacted/promoted under the political tensions bec he had more responsibility to china unlike other chinese idols of SM who were allowed by SM to promote with their groups, bec again, he was a youth ambassador. Sadly, SM barely supported him 2017 onwards, he had to produce his songs, activities, music videos, movie, tv, music promotions in china mostly with just his own effort and team (he even did the Lit MV using his personal money just because he wanted the best quality for it)-all credits basically belong to him yet, since he was technically under SM’s contract, SM earned the same huge percentage of his revenues. That man barely sleeps because he’s always composing and working and SM just gets so much of those earnings😥 It’s a pity he was never able to join promotions again with exo since his contract ended 2 years before the ban was lifted😢 a lot of people might not know but all of them(exo 9) are so private too so we would only know that they’ve met up and hung out whenever they’re generous enough to share it by casually mentioning it in interviews that they did. For the occasions that lay would fly to korea in his personal time. Lay even flew out to korea to see kyungsoo off for his military enlistment and ran to the airport bec he almost missed his flight back to china and that’s one rare photo we have of almost all the members together during his inactive years. sehun once posted a selca of him and lay together but he also ended up taking it down because while there are a lot of fans who still see exo as 9 members with lay, there are a lot of extreme fans that have already been divided by the hiatus… lay’s fans in china have become solid during his hiatus from exo and don’t have any attachments to him being an exo member nor do they want to acknowledge that he is, they want him as just zhang yixing of china while it’s vice versa for a lot of korean fans that only support exo with only korean members(supporters of exo 8, exo7, exo6, exo 5🤪 removing whoever they hate) so a lot of those toxic fans’ backlash got sehun to take down his post. But they hung out in private or remained in touch virtually. It was nice to see lay performing and holding a concert in korea for the first time this year and seeing some of the members attend🤍 The only time he got to appear with exo was once in 2018 by singing some lines of songs in the Tempo album and a cameo in the music video(he wasn’t allowed to do promotions though) and another surprise cameo in the MV for Don’t Fight the Feeling because it was a special album gift to their fans for their 9th anniversary in 2021. They all didn’t promote that one though. His 10-year contract finally ended in 2022 and he penned this handwritten note: “Ten years of growth. Thank you all. Thank you to my Exo brothers for your company and encouragement. Thanks to my colleagues at SM for witnessing every step of my growth and achievement. Thank you to all of my fans for your unconditional love and support. It’s time to say goodbye as an employee of SM. It’s also my new beginning as a 30-year-old. But I will always be the Lay when my members need me. I’m your family member in China, Zhang Yixing. Love you forever~ •EXO• Saranghaja~” Oh lay, the man you are☹️
That's fucked up, and people shouldn't be celebrated for putting a corporation before themselves. "Loyal" is marketing bullshit for "underpaid" and, in this case, "exploited." That's nothing to celebrate.
jun and the8 are also taking advantage of seventeen starting their enlistment era to promote and have more solo activities in china! really excited for them, the other members of seventeen always support and root for them as well.
Lay returned to China before EXO started their military or individual activities. EXO was still very much active when he went back to China. Not getting into reasons why, just stating that one fact.
@dohseyes5744 I know that, hon I just didn't want that conversation. That's why I said I wasn't getting into the reasons. You're fine, but some like to go on blaming and finger-pointing, and I don't have the patient for them.
Lay was the smart Chinese EXO member. SM paid to set him up with a studio. They kept him under contract, so still had to pay him, even when he wasn’t promoting. He hasn’t stopped any of his Chinese projects and has been releasing English versions, so I’m hopefully looking for some US promotions or collabs.
Jackson started his solo career in China since 2017 I guess, where he doesn't participate in GOT7 japanese promotion anymore, and started his solo career in China. They're not disband but working solo because of military enlistment of Korean members.
@@denden2935jype banned him to promote in South Korea when he decided to start Team Wang, that's why we didn't see him promoting there anymore Also they didn't make more comeback before the enlistment because they were busy with the transfer of the trademark and there are an independent group They need more preparation
@@mitsiham5525How does that make sense? He was in jype when he started team wang in 2017,he promoted since then in got7 still in jype at South Korea,they made 10 comebacks from 2017-2021 all in jype and Jackson promoted with them. JYPE didn’t ban him from creating team wang and working as part of got7 when he was still in jype,but suddenly banned him now that he’s not in jype? How? Please stop spreading lies and misinformation. Jackson is focusing on his Chinese promotions now since got7 is inactive,has nothing to do with jype,he’s not part of jype anymore.
so T-ara is very special because they are only group can promote their album and everything despite they struggling in Korea because of the major issues, thankfully Chinese accepted them openly❤
Chinese openly support T-ara when korean netizens curses them on their downfall because of a bullying scandal. When in fact, the bullying scandal is done by Hwayoung.
@@jyerin395 true, Korean netizens accusing the ladies without the true evidence of the scandal but when they found the true bully they regret it and the girls already suffering for what they are doings
@@equal5505 sounds like china knows bullying scandals are in fact just scandals. Koreans are so quick to cancel anyone only with a "he said she said" and no evidence. FYI, TARA's downfall was because a new member joined the group AFTER TARA has already suffered through struggles and became famous. But the new member was lazy and uncooperative. The scandal was that the other memebers was bullying the new member, when infact the new member was the real bully
@@equal5505there're SO MANY victims of the korean cancel culture. Like SOOJIN from GIDLE, koreans are so quick to cancel her when in reality she was the one who fought against the bully that was bulling her friend. She WAS also a victim of bullying, but somehow the internet made it so that she became the bully.
glad to hear china supporting their stars. non korean celebs face alot of discrimination within the industry. so it must be great for them to feel love and comfort at home.
Lay earns Exo's lifetime earning in few month for sure.. Like his every album selling 10-15 Million copies, biggest world tour in China + top high streams+ he is all over the billboards in whole china bcz of his commercials..
G7 is not disbanded because two members are in the military. They’re focusing. On their individual activities into the other members are done military service remember Jackson mark and BamBam are from China United States and Thailand, so they cannot fight in the Korean military, but the rest of the members are Korean so unless the military exempts ex the other members, they will have to enlist as soon as all the ailments are done and believe God be back at it as a group and doing their individual projects
Fr they've had two comebacks since leaving JYP, 'Encore' and 'Nanana' and ppl still think their disbanding. Also all 7 members have reiterated that they are still part of Got7. Also Bambam spoiled we might get a comeback 2025!!!
GOT7 is still active, but he has pride to do business in his home country. Of course he wants to promote there, he promoted there even while still under contract.
No, lay move back to china is not because exo inactive or disband. Lay is still a member of exo, they said that. I've read some news that the reason abt why Lay going back to china was because the political issue between korea and china. In china, Lay is a big name, he is have some political tittle and face of his hometown. So, china take him back because of that. It's something i've read, i dont know if it's true or not. Lay was back in china when i became exol
@@Pawpaw71 lol thats why they still sell out fansigns, albums when they have a comeback. Thats why Baekhyun is called the korean beyonce LOLOLOL. hes the most popular solo singer in whole korea
Yeah! I've read articles and Insights that allude to similar sentiments as your comment. Not only him, but other chinese idols are also kinda of forced to promote in china in order to work in korea as they please. Once they start to get some recognition they have to come back at least once a year to give some kind of payback(?) to the country, and I guess also to "make sure" that they're still close to their roots and following the ideals or behaviours that their government deems important. Didn't they issue a statement some time ago saying that male idols shouldn't have brightly-colored hair??? And that guys should be more " mainly " when promoting??? honestly just pure 💩 , sụcks that the idols are not in a position to refuse them... really inconvenient and unfair to them. At least they gain a lot from these visits and get to keep their fans plus market.
Now i know why the8 became ambassador of Mercedes the 8 model in china and why jun who's child actor never left his career in china and now even continuing it love both of them
not really..... as long as you don't do something illegal (ie tax evasion or prostitution) you are still allowed to promote in china. it's just that the general public probably won't really like you anymore
As long as you dont do wrong, nobody is gonna care. Somehow, not doing the wrong thing in western peoples eyes is such an impossible feat like us Chinese are asking for the impossible.
Agreeing with the last reply because scandals in China can still lead to comebacks. Fan Bingbing has been seen out and about a lot more recently despite the issue with tax evasion; Xiao Zhan is still getting brand deals despite the ship and fan wars leading to some trying to boycott him; and most impressively, Zhang Zhehan is back in the industry by making music. Why is Zhang Zhehan’s so impressive? Because his controversy involved him potentially posing in front of a Japanese shrine that celebrated Japanese war criminals, which would obviously be very very bad in a country like China since China was a victim of Imperial Japan. But Zhang Zhehan insisted he loves China and now things have died down and, as I mentioned, he’s still releasing music.
@@calmingcalming1879Why would it be offensive? The title of the video already says it, and honestly, the Chinese don't have the coverage that the Koreans have, and that's a shame, at least they have this.
I remembered an interview where Yubin said that when Wonder Girls were performing their many renditions of Nobody (Korean, English, Japanese, Chinese), their performance in China earned them the most
Totally wrong. EXO have not disbanded. Lay had to go back to China for political reasons due to China-Korea. EXO shortly afterwards started their 2 by 2 military enlistment due to end 2025. Lay featured on a number of EXO activities and in their DFTF album which broke a lot of records. “Just saying”
When EXO began, they were 12 members; six Korean and six Chinese Three of the Chinese members quit,Kris Wu, Lu Han and Tao. I still love EXO, but there is nothing quite like the original sound of EXO 12 and for that matter EXO-M
.... sis, come down from the clouds. SM treated him like shit, its clear to anyone with eyes that he used Political tensions as an excuse. The man is doing a billion times better than he was before and you should be glad. He will never promote as EXO again because his contract with SM is over and like Hell he'd sign another one. For what? To be locked in the basement again??? He is EXO in his heart and that is enough.
*Ummm… of the 12 members there were 4 Chinese not 6 the rest being Koreans. 3 Chinese members quit (Kris, Luhan, Tao) due to abuse and honesty they hid Lay a lot which made me sad however I’m glad he terminated his contract with sm. I saw it… Lay was a shining dangerous threat to sm. Look how bright he’s shining in China and expanding. He will always be EXO in spirit. Now that Baekyhun has INB100 and Kyungsoo has SooSoo maybe they can be some kind of colab, who knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯*
@@IntrovertedPrincess Statement still stands. EXO never became inactive even during military. Changing formats we still got Obsession, DFTF & Exist albums. A testament to Afro that does min promotion yet still grows
You know what, honestly, good for them! I bet it's a huge relief knowing they have that to, for lack of better terms, "fall back" on. I can't imagine how stressful it must be wondering what's next after the group you're in ceases to exist/continue, especially as a foreigner in Korea. Glad to see they're welcome home with open arms!
Lay richest and most influential artist in China and China government ambassador and unlike all other artists he built his fandom from 0 again when he start working in China ) no one can touch him ever ) he is genius
Nope...he's nugu way B4 disbandment and back to china he only recognised after a BL drama untamed.These idols mention are popular even from the start YKNOW WHY!???bcoz they came from the biggest and well known music ent in Korea.
@@Lunafreya_Noxwhy under every yibo comment go get some hobby bish and yibo is bigger than lay and jackson in china rn both in fans and luxury and normal endorsements number
@@Lunafreya_Nox It was just an example of what the video says, ridiculous. Yibo was already very famous in China before The Untamed, internationally it is something else. The Yibo antis are very pathetic.
I understand. The current Chinese entertainment industry has developed very far. The advantage is that the Korean industry is more international. Starting in a Korean group makes you widely known. The obvious group is WJSN, which sent members to China and never returned.
I don’t know exactly how the K-pop ban is now but Korean idols are now allowed to attend fansigns and such events in China. For example, Newjeans, TXT, ZB1, and other groups have all gone to Beijing or Shanghai or elsewhere for fansigns. Additionally, I’ve seen actresses like Jun Jihyun attend brand events in Shanghai. K-pop albums and merch are also very much allowed to be sold in official retailers in China and you will sometimes see Korean idols on magazine covers, though I have not seen one endorsing brands yet. It’s also worth noting the ban is circumvented through concerts in special administrative areas like Macao and Hong Kong where majority concert goers are mainland Chinese. Also I’d like to add another reason Chinese K-pop idols pursue a career in China in the end is the relentless Sinophobia in SK that limits them from growing fans and being seen in the public eye. Some are also paid very unfairly compared to Korean group mates. It just makes sense and I feel like it’s unfair for some of the comments to express that it’s all because they’re chasing the bag rather than actually being a minority in another country
Offline events are ok though still hard, but you still cant see them on screen, unless their passport is not korean. For ex : kim samuel. Joshua n vernon of svt.
Idk if this is related or not. But I just want to say that I’m proud of Jun and Minghao (The8) for promoting themselves in China. I’m also happy that even though they are promoting themselves in another country they still care a lot about the group (not saying that other idols don’t care about their group). They love Seventeen and they even renewed their contracts along side the other members. I’m also happy that the rest of the members continue to support them. I feel like this shows how close they are and how much they care for each other. Though it may be awhile before we get OT13 again, I will always support each of the members and their personal activities.
Jackson still promoting in sk btw, he had fansign when magic man released. He also more focused on international promotion now (i guess?). And got7 not disbanded, why everyone thinks they're disbanded 😭😭😭😭😭
Kpop agencies are not there to train people who will abandon them later. That is a big reason why, along with the ban of Korean music acts in China, there is much less recruitment of Chinese members in Kpop.
@@jiminswriter4209You mean abandoning them because they're constantly being discriminated against and treated like second class citizens from their own label? Because that's what happened to most of them, including Hangeng, who wasn't even allowed to show his face during live performances for some time bcs SM didn't bother updating his work visa or some shit
@@ancientmingyu0604nah. Lies to justify their selfish career in china. Once you get popular you dont need korea anymore. They bring up discrimination as argument when in reality its just backstabbing for selfish plans.
Hangeng was the first foreign member of an idol groulp. Back then there were laws that stated that foreign artists could only promote in few tv channels and have a limited number of tv appearances. This was the way Korea had to protect their own music industry. China has even more strict laws regarding foreigners promoting or making business in china. China banned all korean artists to promote there so chinese are kinda forced to consume Chinese entertainment. As for Korea, when Hangeng joined super junior, the law didn't predict a foreign member part of korean group. In order to do not penalties his company made him wear a mask so he could still perform with the group without 'appearing'. After Hangeng issue Korea changed law so now you can see all foreign artists freely promoting with their groups.
@@jiminswriter4209korean suju fans literally used to harass them directly.they even booed henry on his debut stage,poor guy thought that he was getting support💀y should they stay in such a sinophobic country?
That and + the fact that they are obviously more loved and comfortable in their own country... Koreans have always felt like superior entities when it comes to chinese ppl 😅
Of course they have to go home but Lay is still in Exo but doing solo activities in China.Sometimes label and artist strike a deal to promote in their homeland/China.
I am so happy for jackson with his company Team Wang he started in 2017 and now he has grown so much and been able to do many different projects that he also is promoting GOT7 💚
Because money of course. All of the Chinese idols make way more money in china than more. Especially since there is always prejudice against them in Korea. They don’t get nearly as much personal offers or endorsements because they’re not as popular as the other members. That’s why the cosmic girls members went over and never came back.
That’s not the only reason. Korean industry heavily discriminates non Korean artist, foreigners artist can only have a few appearances on Tv or promotion, they have a number designed for that.
This is why I’m not surprised that Yan An from Pentagon went back and is doing acting there. He was well known for his looks in China even before joining Pentagon
Doesn't help that Korea has shown to not be too friendly towards Chinese idols. Lay lasted pretty long for someone people said would follow Kris, Tao, and Luhan within months. And those three were right to choose better opportunities over staying with SM (I won't defend Kris' other actions)
Chinese market is big. I mean, they have billions of potential tv viewers and product consumers compared to only 50 millions-ish of Korean potential tv viewers and product consumers. So Of course tv stations in China are able to pay bigger money. That's why Korean people always aim for China, Japan and also the US. In Korean Entertainment, in order to be super rich, you have to be like really top tier, A-listed. But in China, just being a B class celebrity is enough to make you live a comfortable, above average life.
Tbh even the entertainment industry especially chinese drama industry is really big now.. For even chinese drama.. Chinese actor and actress can get lot of foreign fans and even global brand deal
No es tan hace, el publico general mundial no conoce a ningun artista, solo los fanaticos del kpop que conocieron idolos chinos, pero nadie los conoce organicamente
EXO is not disbanded niether is Got7 Lay was appointed as Chinese government's youth ambassador. He is basically a government official there ( he had no choice; it's mandatory).
@@rkdo9554 Not trying to be rude but, he never said they disbanded… he said disbanded OR gets inactive. He only mentioned 3 Chinese artists, as an example, from groups that are inactive or have disbanded(two different meanings). GOT7/EXO falls under the inactive umbrella, while F(X) falls under the disbanded umbrella.
I follow some chiness K-POP idols who became really comfortable, famous and rich after leaving korea. Huang Zitao, Luhan, Cheng Xiao, Lu Xie ning and many more are examples😊
it's literally what they said though... the chinese entertainment is bigger, that's why chinese celebrities gain more than kpop artists and even actors
Furthermore Kpop idols in Korea were known to be psychologically abused by their Agent and Korea entertainment industry are notorious for being brutal. Look at their yearly cosmetic surgery & suicide rates. Sadly, these idols were unprotected by their government. Whereas, China entertainment industry are monitored by guidelines & laws, and the entertainers, artist are protected by such guidelines, laws & moral rules set by the government. They all know the consequences of any immoral conduct.
But with due respect of team bonding for working for years, its not for the bigger money but friendship is. How i wish to see jackson together with his group soon. ❤
China population is over 1 BILLION. Korea is only about 51 MILLIONS. China's entertainment industry doesn't need Japan, US, Brazil and Southeast Asia market to thrive. South Korea entertainment would have very small market if it wasn't a global phenomenon. I get why Chinese KPop idols go back home, why bother travel the world when your own country gives you all the wealth you'll ever needed + you'll get to be with your friends and family.
China no cuanta como mercado porque es cerrado y no tienen proyección internacianal supongo que estos idolos son famosos en asia, no son novatos por eso les va bien cuando vuelven, pero son famosos solo allá
Also korea have a policy for foreigners to earn less compared to koreans idols. Thats why chinese idols rather go back to china they pay fair and they have more deals compared in korea
Oh please, let them go to China, although unfortunately there is not much room for idols, there are still things to do. A company that does not value them, and even mistreats them like Ricky, does not deserve them.
No one said that it was actually because of the exploitation of them by the Korean entertainment industry.If you watch their interviews you'll see this.
Lay is probably worth more than all the other Exo members combined. Especially, if you consider the fact that SM is taking a HUGE chunk of their idols earnings.
So what happens if the kpop group gets back together, like what we hope happens with Seventeen? Jun and Minghao would, obviously more than likely go back to China, but what if - after all mandatory service is completed - the groups get back together? (Oh, and Lay's was not because of disbanding as it feels this video may have given. His contract ended. Yes...I realise it's a short, so...)
Surely, it would then depend on: who has remained with their original agency, agency negotiations around the group IP & scheduling, and what kind of comeback they want to achieve 🤔? Seventeen's case it just seems like as long as the group remain on good terms, then the Chinese members will continue to work around the enlisting schedule while still promoting in both countries. Often the reason a lot of Chinese idols end up not promoting in South Korea anymore is usually disbandment and/or group member issues. Also, sometimes they are just not that well known in South Korea without the group's wider name (Chinese idols often aren't promoted or sent on shows for the wider South Korean public to get to know them) so it makes more sense financially and for their careers to promote in China.
Jun & Hao are active in Chinese industry along with being k-pop idols in Korea.. They participated/were regular members in many variety shows & Jun is pursuing his acting career (in Cdramas) 👍 so it's all smooth with SVT.. no concerns there 🧿 until seventy (& beyond) SVT will be SVT 💎
the thing is,after a certain point,all groups will slow down a bit when members start focusing on their own careers.they cant always be all about the group,they have their own ambitions too.when svt reaches that point,i think jun and the8 will focus more in c ent
As far I know and has been stated by the agency, I believe the members of Seventeen that aren't yet needing to enlist/don't have to are going to continue as Seventeen. Since they have more members than other groups and members from both China and America, as well as Scoups who will not be enlisting, I think they intend to perform and promote with the members that aren't serving. I can imagine the members will have more solo works potentially as well though and I know Jun is acting in China right now, but only until early next year, then he will return. I'm wondering actually if Jun is taking this acting opportunity in part because he may have to be more present in the group in the coming future but I'm not sure.
Wang Yibo and EXO former Chinese member are different from Seventeen's Chinese members. SVT's bonding, their brotherhood is so strong. Therefore, Jun & Minghao always try to attend group activities even they've to fly a lot or having a very busy schedule. They priority the group most, recently Minghao was cast in youth periplous but because of group schedule, album promotion, going seventeen filming he didn't able to film some episodes in that show. As for Jun it's the same he have been flying China to Korea frequently to attend group activities. Seventeen promotes themselves in mainland China ( recently went Beijing for offline fan meeting ) Nevertheless we don't know what future holds. Let's hope we'll able to see them together for a long time.
Chinese entertainment have been around quite longer and actually bigger than korean. I remember back in the 80-90s where chinese movies, dramas, musics are so popular whereas korean was nowhere to be seen. Korean entertainment raised to prominent in late 2000s. Also, when a born chinese actor/actress go abroad they will always return to china in the end. Because of how they citizenship work. They will always have double citizenship. The chinese will never let their citizens go. That is also why, you can never extradite a chinese criminal when he return to their homeland after they committed crimes outside of their country.
Like bruv even Koreans have a hard time getting solo projects in SK, what more for foreigners. Honestly, online content is such a blessing because it allows so many idols to experience various types of shows they wouldn't have in the past.
@@6Euphoria6 In a live. Fans were asking him, so he said they can't. Then he wondered if any kpop artists had visited China in the past few years. I don't remember which live though. At the time tried to search why he said that but couldn't find anything. .
@@shreyasitambraparni5713I don't think they can like seventeen did fansign in beijing with all members because 2 are Chinese and 2 are American and others got allowed too because they are way too famous in China but on the other bts never promoted there because they have no Chinese member so their popularity is less too in China unlike seventeen or other groups
Now I understand Jun always going back and forth between China and Korea
and its good for him, since pledis doesn't get him much individual deals. And in china a lot of fans come for his support
And jun so hilarious in variety show😊
@@V_soul.95 I agree, Pledis gives him bare minimum when he's extremely famous in China
@@its_adi22 if jun quit the group and return to china he would be one of the richest kpop idol
It's actually nice for them to nurture their individual career so good call for Jun. Also the members are supporting him and encouraging him 🥺💖
This korean actress said in an interview that the role she got in china has literally got her her house in one the most luxurious apartment compounds in korea and continues to feed her to this day
Which one
@@ikramahmed5479 I think her name is Go joon-hee. She mentioned this in a variety show(?) called Don’t forget your breakfast with Jang sungkyu
She said the pay in china is 10x more (figuratively speaking)
@@__yussra Kinda make sense tho since China economy is 10 times the size of South Korea based on GDP
Also, Jay Park talked about it, when he was invited to Rap of China - 'The 'Rap of China' production team said they would give me 1000 times what 'Show me the Money' would give me and told me to come to China to film. However, I stayed in Korea and filmed in Korea after receiving 10 times less than what I would've received. -
But then they also taxes heavily on actors and entertainers in China. Taxes evasion also considered a huge things and sometimes you can get fine a lot and it can cost them a career too. Same thing happened to Fan Bing Bing and even till today she still can’t recover from her era due to this.
Fun fact: The only K-pop group that is allowed to promote in China is T-ara. I don't know how they got that deal but they did!
Oh really? I have never heard about that👀 That’s super interesting!
China and japan were the only ones to support t ara when they got unjustly black listed from korea. China cares for t ara and i gotta thank them for that
Nah... they opened back not long ago. It was recent. I think from 2022/2023
Snsd had a Chinese song
Mean while Blackswan was about to perform today for Full Moon but cancelled coz of bad weather
Gidle Yuqi is setting herself up for a good career after since she’s been promoting a lot in China. Cheng Xiao did the same while she was in her group and still is doing great after leaving. I love watching Chinese historical dramas and she had some really good ones.
Yes especially falling in to your smile ❤
Chinese historical dramas are my fav. Their traditional attire is ❤
@@kiranrenu1752 bro, they said "historical dramas", what kind of history is "falling into your smile" 😂😭 2019? 😭
I’d love to see Yuqi do a drama with Yan A from Pentagon. Just as a massive FU to Cube entertainment for the awful treatment that crap company gave.
I hate to breka it yo u, but fiys tanked in china and she git criticized so much for her acting n didnt get drama project for a long time cause of it @@kiranrenu1752
SNSD said that one concert in Japan gave them more income than one year of concerts in Korea. This was decades ago.
Dayummmm
Imagine the concerts in China
Decades ago makes it sound like it’s been 40 years or something 😭
i was like holy shit snsd cant be that old but i just remembered that they started touring by 2009.. WHICH IS TWO DECADES AGO 😭 but at the same time, holy fucking shit they were so young cus like theyre all still in their early-30s
@@deranged_miyeon_stanokay but when someone says decades ago that would mean 3 decades minimum which would be 30 years.
A decade refers to 10 years which could mean 2007-2017 and not necessarily 2010-2020 (every 10 years) so snsd isn’t even 2 decades lol
I believe that SNSD is the first Kpop girl group to have soldout tickets in Tokyo Dome. My Japanese friend said they attended their concerts and SNSD were majestic and were singing live.
Lay is the most sucessful artist who returned to Chinese market.
Wang yeibo is also very successful.....his drama untamed is still one of the most viewed drama in China history along other big hits
I’d say Wang Yibo is up there
Thats untrue. LuHan is
@@6Euphoria6lol that’s not true… lay most influential coop artist + government ambassador and richest artist now ) stop lying ) Luhan doesn’t even have half of half lay endorsements
@ahilesahilesov2112 Can you not act like u know ur shit if u dont even know a word of Chinese. Im Chinese, ok. The slang top traffic is created bc of him, his dating announcement broke weibo's sysetm, the fans that left him can feed half the c-ent circle. Ask any Chinese. You dont even have to be his fan to know his the pioneer of top traffic. Lay only gain an upperhand bc of what happened to wyf and ztao.
You intl fans rlly in a bubble. Whenever its cn entertainment, you always assume ppl popular in intl community is the top in China, even tho they can only connect as up and coming. I still remember the shock when a international cdrama fan recated in shock when I told them Cheng Yi is 2nd only to xz. Well just bc international viewers dont care for him doesnt mean hes not well loved in China. These 2 groups love VERY different things. Take otome game Love and Deepspace for example. Zayne is most popular in global players and Rafayel is least, in China its the totally opposite. Rafayel is most popular by a landslide while Zayne is at the bottom of the food chain.
Now Jun even though seventeen is thriving he went to China to promote solo activity
Yes why not ? when his member going to military he with the8 can go back to china to promote themselves and also for the group. In Korea not have many schedules for them.
D8 also in Chinese variety shows. Yuqi too
Mostly Chinese idols don't last that long in Korea but the fact Junhao is still part of SVT tells about his love and loyalty for svt. Best thing happened when 13 of them renewed their contract a year before the due date. Mad respect to svt
nothings wrong, while korean members will be in military duties, its actually good for them to return china as they wish. also, while some do military service its normal for others to do individual jobs. example- got7, bts and list continues.
He needs to start cememtimg himself in the drama industry already since he is over 25, it will be harder if he keeps postponing it
This is why Winwin spends all his time in China 💰💰💰💰 priority 😅
WinWin is in WayV which promotes primarily in China…
with his group being china based, im sure he does 😂
tbh slay. if sm aint giving him the spot then its better for him to just stand on his own feet.hopefully the rest of the wayv members does too,actually the whole nct
And the cie takes 90% of it . 😂😂
honestly such a visual. probably one of the best in his generation. what he's doing now is probably the best for him
Same when Yibo left UNIQ; he became a megastar
yibo didnt become a megastar that way.he blew up becoz of untamed.that was the game changer for him.
Wang Yibo is still a part of UNIQ. Except Seungyeon/WOODZ, all the members are still under UNIQ’s label “Yuehua Entertainment”. The group never disbanded too. The members are pursuing their own solo careers to find success in their own way. They want to make a comeback but they couldn’t as their group isn’t as successful as their own solo careers. This is why YueHua never really cared for UNIQ’s group activities. So no one left the group but pursuing their solo careers.
Definitely! The Untamed was a big hit and it all started from there! @@lkzt5543
Nope...Yibo is just nugu in china even B4 and unpopular..he only doing well bcoz of a booming BL drama and that's untamed.
@@Lunafreya_Nox exactly.these people acting like korea made yibo what he is today🙄🙄
Got7 is not disbanded, they're just doing individual activities as 2members are in military😊
When they all will be together
@@sandipsonare6371 BamBam always says/spoil that they will be back in 2025, maybe before Youngjae enlist.
@@MommyandThea where do you live
Philippines ♡
That’s why he said disbanded or inactive
Seeing wang yibo, jackson and lay in Street dance program as judges /team leader was fun 😂😅
😂And Tao As a CEO of his own company 🔥
Jun and The8 being so busy flying back and forth
Lay’s loyalty to EXO isn’t talked about enough. He literally had to give a huge chunk(40% is Lay’s salary and 60% goes to SM if im not mistaken) of his profit from his hard work in China to SM entertainment since 2017 until his 10-year contract ended with them recently even though he was banned to do group activities with his members(he doesn’t get paid for group activities w/o him) and the other exo members were banned in promoting with him as a group in China as well. But he didn’t want to leave exo, could have terminated and filed a case with SM like the other chinese members did but he stuck to his word of not leaving exo and remained loyal even if he got the short end of the stick.
So timeline was
2012-2022: exo members’ 10-year contract (minus enlistment years for korean members)
2015: SM sets up lay’s independent studio in china to start his solo career in china whilst in exo
2016: launching of solo careers of lay in china and exo-cbx in kr (other members in the ff years, 2019 for exo-sc, chen, baekhyun, 2020 for kai, suho, 2021 for D.O., 2022 for xiumin, 2024 for chanyeol etc.)
2017-2024: height of political tension of china-south korea up until 2024 when the ban was starting to be lifted so he had to drop all his korean promotions from here onwards (it’s why Lay FOR THE FIRST TIME IN YEARS was ONLY able to promote as an artist again for his solo in korean music shows this 2024😭)
SM had set up an independent studio in china for Lay back in 2015 under SM entertainment as the first member to launch his solo career but SM gets this huge percentage of the revenues and they while they gave him assistance to establish it, a big motive for SM was that they were scared that lay may leave SM AS WELL, following the 3 chinese members who left in 2014-2015 and lose EXO’s momentum and huge fanbase in china. They did that so lay can have the creative freedom for his solo music in china while staying with SM and they couldn’t afford to lose the chinese revenues (since we know celebs there earn a TON more than korea). Their other motive ofc was that lay will earn them money if he simultaneously works as exo + release solo music. So in the beginning, they wanted to use the money he will earn in china.
Chen: “Lay hyung always tried his best to do everything with us while going back and forth to china. He must have been under a lot of stress that we didn’t know but he never showed it to us. He always thinks about EXO amidst his busy schedules. I am always thankful towards Lay hyung who wants to do and tries to do everything with us.”
Within 2015-2017, Lay continued to gain popularity in China even becoming an important public figure as a chinese youth ambassador for their country. The backlash would be too much for him and exo if they interacted/promoted under the political tensions bec he had more responsibility to china unlike other chinese idols of SM who were allowed by SM to promote with their groups, bec again, he was a youth ambassador. Sadly, SM barely supported him 2017 onwards, he had to produce his songs, activities, music videos, movie, tv, music promotions in china mostly with just his own effort and team (he even did the Lit MV using his personal money just because he wanted the best quality for it)-all credits basically belong to him yet, since he was technically under SM’s contract, SM earned the same huge percentage of his revenues. That man barely sleeps because he’s always composing and working and SM just gets so much of those earnings😥
It’s a pity he was never able to join promotions again with exo since his contract ended 2 years before the ban was lifted😢 a lot of people might not know but all of them(exo 9) are so private too so we would only know that they’ve met up and hung out whenever they’re generous enough to share it by casually mentioning it in interviews that they did. For the occasions that lay would fly to korea in his personal time. Lay even flew out to korea to see kyungsoo off for his military enlistment and ran to the airport bec he almost missed his flight back to china and that’s one rare photo we have of almost all the members together during his inactive years. sehun once posted a selca of him and lay together but he also ended up taking it down because while there are a lot of fans who still see exo as 9 members with lay, there are a lot of extreme fans that have already been divided by the hiatus… lay’s fans in china have become solid during his hiatus from exo and don’t have any attachments to him being an exo member nor do they want to acknowledge that he is, they want him as just zhang yixing of china while it’s vice versa for a lot of korean fans that only support exo with only korean members(supporters of exo 8, exo7, exo6, exo 5🤪 removing whoever they hate) so a lot of those toxic fans’ backlash got sehun to take down his post. But they hung out in private or remained in touch virtually. It was nice to see lay performing and holding a concert in korea for the first time this year and seeing some of the members attend🤍 The only time he got to appear with exo was once in 2018 by singing some lines of songs in the Tempo album and a cameo in the music video(he wasn’t allowed to do promotions though) and another surprise cameo in the MV for Don’t Fight the Feeling because it was a special album gift to their fans for their 9th anniversary in 2021. They all didn’t promote that one though.
His 10-year contract finally ended in 2022 and he penned this handwritten note:
“Ten years of growth. Thank you all. Thank you to my Exo brothers for your company and encouragement.
Thanks to my colleagues at SM for witnessing every step of my growth and achievement.
Thank you to all of my fans for your unconditional love and support.
It’s time to say goodbye as an employee of SM.
It’s also my new beginning as a 30-year-old.
But I will always be the Lay when my members need me.
I’m your family member in China, Zhang Yixing.
Love you forever~
•EXO•
Saranghaja~”
Oh lay, the man you are☹️
What the actual fawk!? I'm so tired of the BS idols have to deal with.
That's fucked up, and people shouldn't be celebrated for putting a corporation before themselves. "Loyal" is marketing bullshit for "underpaid" and, in this case, "exploited." That's nothing to celebrate.
I hope he has terminated his contract with them
also Lay was even forced by the chinese government to go back to china.. he didn't even want to...
@@iamsoul3761 he already did, he built his own entertainment company. he left sm but still in exo tho
jun and the8 are also taking advantage of seventeen starting their enlistment era to promote and have more solo activities in china! really excited for them, the other members of seventeen always support and root for them as well.
Lay returned to China before EXO started their military or individual activities. EXO was still very much active when he went back to China. Not getting into reasons why, just stating that one fact.
The reasons are so obvious and doesn’t have much to do with competition but the lack of growth stumped in the industry. I should know.
@dohseyes5744 I know that, hon I just didn't want that conversation. That's why I said I wasn't getting into the reasons. You're fine, but some like to go on blaming and finger-pointing, and I don't have the patient for them.
@@rachel1120ify Understand.😊
@@dohseyes5744True i remember how they kinda got a little mad that he works so much in china, since they knew his support was stronger than in korea.
@@soleil7259, Why mad? SM surported Lay's return to China because SM shared big profit earned by Lay in Chinese market alone.
exo did not disband, Lay focused on individual activities but he still occasionally takes part in the group activities. Last time in DFTF album 2021
"Or gets inactive"
"2021"
@@Usersf134ssk thats cuz exo didn't have a full comeback after 2021 cuz like Kai is in military and all that stuff
@@aarushirajput1300 they had cb in 2023
@@lina5173 like I said Kai was also missing so still not the full comeback , the proper one
Lay was the smart Chinese EXO member. SM paid to set him up with a studio. They kept him under contract, so still had to pay him, even when he wasn’t promoting. He hasn’t stopped any of his Chinese projects and has been releasing English versions, so I’m hopefully looking for some US promotions or collabs.
Jackson started his solo career in China since 2017 I guess, where he doesn't participate in GOT7 japanese promotion anymore, and started his solo career in China. They're not disband but working solo because of military enlistment of Korean members.
They're working solo regardless of the enlistment and Jackson has definitely been able to achieve things in China that he never could have in Korea.
@@denden2935jype banned him to promote in South Korea when he decided to start Team Wang, that's why we didn't see him promoting there anymore
Also they didn't make more comeback before the enlistment because they were busy with the transfer of the trademark and there are an independent group
They need more preparation
@@mitsiham5525How does that make sense? He was in jype when he started team wang in 2017,he promoted since then in got7 still in jype at South Korea,they made 10 comebacks from 2017-2021 all in jype and Jackson promoted with them. JYPE didn’t ban him from creating team wang and working as part of got7 when he was still in jype,but suddenly banned him now that he’s not in jype? How? Please stop spreading lies and misinformation. Jackson is focusing on his Chinese promotions now since got7 is inactive,has nothing to do with jype,he’s not part of jype anymore.
so T-ara is very special because they are only group can promote their album and everything despite they struggling in Korea because of the major issues, thankfully Chinese accepted them openly❤
Chinese openly support T-ara when korean netizens curses them on their downfall because of a bullying scandal. When in fact, the bullying scandal is done by Hwayoung.
@@jyerin395 true, Korean netizens accusing the ladies without the true evidence of the scandal but when they found the true bully they regret it and the girls already suffering for what they are doings
sounds like china don't care about bullying
@@equal5505 sounds like china knows bullying scandals are in fact just scandals.
Koreans are so quick to cancel anyone only with a "he said she said" and no evidence.
FYI, TARA's downfall was because a new member joined the group AFTER TARA has already suffered through struggles and became famous. But the new member was lazy and uncooperative.
The scandal was that the other memebers was bullying the new member, when infact the new member was the real bully
@@equal5505there're SO MANY victims of the korean cancel culture.
Like SOOJIN from GIDLE, koreans are so quick to cancel her when in reality she was the one who fought against the bully that was bulling her friend. She WAS also a victim of bullying, but somehow the internet made it so that she became the bully.
glad to hear china supporting their stars. non korean celebs face alot of discrimination within the industry. so it must be great for them to feel love and comfort at home.
Agree
How come they got discrimination? Just because fans being fans who prefer others
@@nf3805some people are just xenophobic. it’s crazy😕
@@nf3805surprise,koreans r sinophobic
@@nf3805 not just fans, management as well I'm sure
Lay earns Exo's lifetime earning in few month for sure.. Like his every album selling 10-15 Million copies, biggest world tour in China + top high streams+ he is all over the billboards in whole china bcz of his commercials..
Wang Yibo also became famous after he returned to China.
Oh thats why Jun is so busy these days bcoz he is focusing on solo activities as well as Seventeen proportion as new mini album is coming
G7 is not disbanded because two members are in the military. They’re focusing. On their individual activities into the other members are done military service remember Jackson mark and BamBam are from China United States and Thailand, so they cannot fight in the Korean military, but the rest of the members are Korean so unless the military exempts ex the other members, they will have to enlist as soon as all the ailments are done and believe God be back at it as a group and doing their individual projects
Fr they've had two comebacks since leaving JYP, 'Encore' and 'Nanana' and ppl still think their disbanding. Also all 7 members have reiterated that they are still part of Got7. Also Bambam spoiled we might get a comeback 2025!!!
@@zammynx it’s always BamBam lol 😂 that’s why he’s my favorite member. We get all the tea from him.
GOT7 is still active, but he has pride to do business in his home country. Of course he wants to promote there, he promoted there even while still under contract.
Jackson Wang is so talented and handsome.❣️
Agree with you...
Jackson is a very hot showman..😉😉
No, lay move back to china is not because exo inactive or disband. Lay is still a member of exo, they said that. I've read some news that the reason abt why Lay going back to china was because the political issue between korea and china. In china, Lay is a big name, he is have some political tittle and face of his hometown. So, china take him back because of that. It's something i've read, i dont know if it's true or not. Lay was back in china when i became exol
EXO is dead.
@@Pawpaw71 yeah, they are dead. DEADLY GORGEOUS 🤚🤚
@@Pawpaw71 lol thats why they still sell out fansigns, albums when they have a comeback. Thats why Baekhyun is called the korean beyonce LOLOLOL. hes the most popular solo singer in whole korea
@@Pawpaw71your RUclips channel is dead
Yeah! I've read articles and Insights that allude to similar sentiments as your comment. Not only him, but other chinese idols are also kinda of forced to promote in china in order to work in korea as they please. Once they start to get some recognition they have to come back at least once a year to give some kind of payback(?) to the country, and I guess also to "make sure" that they're still close to their roots and following the ideals or behaviours that their government deems important. Didn't they issue a statement some time ago saying that male idols shouldn't have brightly-colored hair??? And that guys should be more " mainly " when promoting??? honestly just pure 💩 , sụcks that the idols are not in a position to refuse them... really inconvenient and unfair to them. At least they gain a lot from these visits and get to keep their fans plus market.
Like Cheng Xiao of WJSN......smth really in the chinese air😅
Yes but I belove it was all 2 or 3 Chinese members that never came back lol
Yes but I belove it was all 2 or 3 Chinese members that never came back lol
more money
@@dixnaaa yes
@@芒果-f3d hahah
Now i know why the8 became ambassador of Mercedes the 8 model in china and why jun who's child actor never left his career in china and now even continuing it love both of them
Also they are very strict too. Even one scandal you can say bye bye to your career/fame
not really..... as long as you don't do something illegal (ie tax evasion or prostitution) you are still allowed to promote in china. it's just that the general public probably won't really like you anymore
Depend on what scandal. People like Kris wu deserves to be banned
As long as you dont do wrong, nobody is gonna care. Somehow, not doing the wrong thing in western peoples eyes is such an impossible feat like us Chinese are asking for the impossible.
Agreeing with the last reply because scandals in China can still lead to comebacks. Fan Bingbing has been seen out and about a lot more recently despite the issue with tax evasion; Xiao Zhan is still getting brand deals despite the ship and fan wars leading to some trying to boycott him; and most impressively, Zhang Zhehan is back in the industry by making music.
Why is Zhang Zhehan’s so impressive?
Because his controversy involved him potentially posing in front of a Japanese shrine that celebrated Japanese war criminals, which would obviously be very very bad in a country like China since China was a victim of Imperial Japan.
But Zhang Zhehan insisted he loves China and now things have died down and, as I mentioned, he’s still releasing music.
@@kukuandkookiefbb is out and about outside of china, not in china, zhang zehan as well, his career is outside of china
fun fact: c-drama actors are paid way more than the top korean actors. like WAY WAY MORE!
Is this comment really necessary just asking no offense pls
@@calmingcalming1879i think its necessary for those who doesnt know like me. its in line with the topic.
@@calmingcalming1879Why would it be offensive? The title of the video already says it, and honestly, the Chinese don't have the coverage that the Koreans have, and that's a shame, at least they have this.
I remembered an interview where Yubin said that when Wonder Girls were performing their many renditions of Nobody (Korean, English, Japanese, Chinese), their performance in China earned them the most
Totally wrong. EXO have not disbanded. Lay had to go back to China for political reasons due to China-Korea. EXO shortly afterwards started their 2 by 2 military enlistment due to end 2025. Lay featured on a number of EXO activities and in their DFTF album which broke a lot of records. “Just saying”
When EXO began, they were 12 members; six Korean and six Chinese Three of the Chinese members quit,Kris Wu, Lu Han and Tao. I still love EXO, but there is nothing quite like the original sound of EXO 12 and for that matter EXO-M
.... sis, come down from the clouds. SM treated him like shit, its clear to anyone with eyes that he used Political tensions as an excuse. The man is doing a billion times better than he was before and you should be glad. He will never promote as EXO again because his contract with SM is over and like Hell he'd sign another one. For what? To be locked in the basement again??? He is EXO in his heart and that is enough.
*Ummm… of the 12 members there were 4 Chinese not 6 the rest being Koreans. 3 Chinese members quit (Kris, Luhan, Tao) due to abuse and honesty they hid Lay a lot which made me sad however I’m glad he terminated his contract with sm. I saw it… Lay was a shining dangerous threat to sm. Look how bright he’s shining in China and expanding. He will always be EXO in spirit. Now that Baekyhun has INB100 and Kyungsoo has SooSoo maybe they can be some kind of colab, who knows. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯*
They literally said “when their group disbands OR BECOMES INACTIVE.”
@@IntrovertedPrincess Statement still stands. EXO never became inactive even during military. Changing formats we still got Obsession, DFTF & Exist albums. A testament to Afro that does min promotion yet still grows
You know what, honestly, good for them! I bet it's a huge relief knowing they have that to, for lack of better terms, "fall back" on. I can't imagine how stressful it must be wondering what's next after the group you're in ceases to exist/continue, especially as a foreigner in Korea. Glad to see they're welcome home with open arms!
Lay richest and most influential artist in China and China government ambassador and unlike all other artists he built his fandom from 0 again when he start working in China ) no one can touch him ever ) he is genius
Also Wang Yibo from UniQ
Nope...he's nugu way B4 disbandment and back to china he only recognised after a BL drama untamed.These idols mention are popular even from the start YKNOW WHY!???bcoz they came from the biggest and well known music ent in Korea.
@@Lunafreya_NoxDamn why so mad
@@Lunafreya_Noxwhy under every yibo comment go get some hobby bish and yibo is bigger than lay and jackson in china rn both in fans and luxury and normal endorsements number
@@Lunafreya_Nox It was just an example of what the video says, ridiculous. Yibo was already very famous in China before The Untamed, internationally it is something else. The Yibo antis are very pathetic.
@@Lunafreya_Nox If you looked in a mirror, you would see THE real nugu. Thank me later.💀
I understand. The current Chinese entertainment industry has developed very far. The advantage is that the Korean industry is more international. Starting in a Korean group makes you widely known. The obvious group is WJSN, which sent members to China and never returned.
I don’t know exactly how the K-pop ban is now but Korean idols are now allowed to attend fansigns and such events in China. For example, Newjeans, TXT, ZB1, and other groups have all gone to Beijing or Shanghai or elsewhere for fansigns. Additionally, I’ve seen actresses like Jun Jihyun attend brand events in Shanghai. K-pop albums and merch are also very much allowed to be sold in official retailers in China and you will sometimes see Korean idols on magazine covers, though I have not seen one endorsing brands yet. It’s also worth noting the ban is circumvented through concerts in special administrative areas like Macao and Hong Kong where majority concert goers are mainland Chinese.
Also I’d like to add another reason Chinese K-pop idols pursue a career in China in the end is the relentless Sinophobia in SK that limits them from growing fans and being seen in the public eye. Some are also paid very unfairly compared to Korean group mates. It just makes sense and I feel like it’s unfair for some of the comments to express that it’s all because they’re chasing the bag rather than actually being a minority in another country
Offline events are ok though still hard, but you still cant see them on screen, unless their passport is not korean. For ex : kim samuel. Joshua n vernon of svt.
No but all seventeen members did fansign in beijing some days ago they are allowing it @@Stlobelicream
Txt jamas han ido a china
Idk if this is related or not. But I just want to say that I’m proud of Jun and Minghao (The8) for promoting themselves in China. I’m also happy that even though they are promoting themselves in another country they still care a lot about the group (not saying that other idols don’t care about their group). They love Seventeen and they even renewed their contracts along side the other members. I’m also happy that the rest of the members continue to support them. I feel like this shows how close they are and how much they care for each other. Though it may be awhile before we get OT13 again, I will always support each of the members and their personal activities.
Jackson still promoting in sk btw, he had fansign when magic man released. He also more focused on international promotion now (i guess?). And got7 not disbanded, why everyone thinks they're disbanded 😭😭😭😭😭
I cannot stress enough how much more entertainers get paid in China vs Korea. It’s multitudes of difference
You should go global Jackson, you have fans abroad. In faraway lands. In The southern Hemisphere.
Jackson es muy querido en latam❤
@@marygarcia4492 And Many places as far as Australia and New Zealand.😊
I'm from NewZealand ❤
@@marygarcia4492pero no es un acto global, su musica no suena en ninguna parte
In Korea half of the artist's income is going in the pocket of their agency
It was Han-Geng from super junior who started the trend.. Kudos to him
Kpop agencies are not there to train people who will abandon them later. That is a big reason why, along with the ban of Korean music acts in China, there is much less recruitment of Chinese members in Kpop.
@@jiminswriter4209You mean abandoning them because they're constantly being discriminated against and treated like second class citizens from their own label? Because that's what happened to most of them, including Hangeng, who wasn't even allowed to show his face during live performances for some time bcs SM didn't bother updating his work visa or some shit
@@ancientmingyu0604nah. Lies to justify their selfish career in china. Once you get popular you dont need korea anymore. They bring up discrimination as argument when in reality its just backstabbing for selfish plans.
Hangeng was the first foreign member of an idol groulp.
Back then there were laws that stated that foreign artists could only promote in few tv channels and have a limited number of tv appearances. This was the way Korea had to protect their own music industry. China has even more strict laws regarding foreigners promoting or making business in china. China banned all korean artists to promote there so chinese are kinda forced to consume Chinese entertainment.
As for Korea, when Hangeng joined super junior, the law didn't predict a foreign member part of korean group. In order to do not penalties his company made him wear a mask so he could still perform with the group without 'appearing'. After Hangeng issue Korea changed law so now you can see all foreign artists freely promoting with their groups.
@@jiminswriter4209korean suju fans literally used to harass them directly.they even booed henry on his debut stage,poor guy thought that he was getting support💀y should they stay in such a sinophobic country?
That and + the fact that they are obviously more loved and comfortable in their own country... Koreans have always felt like superior entities when it comes to chinese ppl 😅
Well not only that, Chinese idols get discriminated so much that they don’t often make as much money as the other Korean members. 🤔
Ztao the exmember of exo is literally a billionaire now 😌
As far as I can remember, he was already rich before joining Exo. In fact, he was the richest.
JACKSON WANG IS A VERY DOWN TO EARTH GUY❤❤❤❤...MISS YOU DUDE
Of course they have to go home but Lay is still in Exo but doing solo activities in China.Sometimes label and artist strike a deal to promote in their homeland/China.
I am so happy for jackson with his company Team Wang he started in 2017 and now he has grown so much and been able to do many different projects that he also is promoting GOT7 💚
Because money of course. All of the Chinese idols make way more money in china than more. Especially since there is always prejudice against them in Korea. They don’t get nearly as much personal offers or endorsements because they’re not as popular as the other members. That’s why the cosmic girls members went over and never came back.
That’s not the only reason. Korean industry heavily discriminates non Korean artist, foreigners artist can only have a few appearances on Tv or promotion, they have a number designed for that.
You don't mention THE 1st Chinese kpop idol: Super Junior Hangeng
This is why I’m not surprised that Yan An from Pentagon went back and is doing acting there. He was well known for his looks in China even before joining Pentagon
Same for Fei and Jia from Miss A. Cant forget them. They from the same generation as Victoria.
And it’s also why Jackson would introduce himself by saying “I’m Jackson Wang from China.” 🇨🇳
Doesn't help that Korea has shown to not be too friendly towards Chinese idols.
Lay lasted pretty long for someone people said would follow Kris, Tao, and Luhan within months.
And those three were right to choose better opportunities over staying with SM (I won't defend Kris' other actions)
My Queen Sica its killing it in China ♡ im proud of her !!!!
Chinese market is big. I mean, they have billions of potential tv viewers and product consumers compared to only 50 millions-ish of Korean potential tv viewers and product consumers.
So Of course tv stations in China are able to pay bigger money.
That's why Korean people always aim for China, Japan and also the US.
In Korean Entertainment, in order to be super rich, you have to be like really top tier, A-listed.
But in China, just being a B class celebrity is enough to make you live a comfortable, above average life.
And the artists are still giving huge percentages to the labels
Tbh even the entertainment industry especially chinese drama industry is really big now.. For even chinese drama.. Chinese actor and actress can get lot of foreign fans and even global brand deal
No es tan hace, el publico general mundial no conoce a ningun artista, solo los fanaticos del kpop que conocieron idolos chinos, pero nadie los conoce organicamente
EXO is not disbanded niether is Got7
Lay was appointed as Chinese government's youth ambassador. He is basically a government official there ( he had no choice; it's mandatory).
@@rkdo9554 Not trying to be rude but, he never said they disbanded… he said disbanded OR gets inactive. He only mentioned 3 Chinese artists, as an example, from groups that are inactive or have disbanded(two different meanings). GOT7/EXO falls under the inactive umbrella, while F(X) falls under the disbanded umbrella.
Should also factor China is very big, while South Korea is relatively a small country, less buying power unless you’re an international star/etc
Good for you, Victoria! I really wish her the very best, she deserves everything ❤️
Probably cause some companies suck at writing fair contracts.
Some countries will clap back if you've mistreated their people.
I follow some chiness K-POP idols who became really comfortable, famous and rich after leaving korea.
Huang Zitao, Luhan, Cheng Xiao, Lu Xie ning and many more are examples😊
Yuqi specially CUBE Ent is really witty to get more rich by sending Yuqi in China to promote with Bai Lu , Dylan , Esther or other chinese actors
Keep running
@@tonytey6133 ok I am fat anyways so I need to loose weight Thanks for motivating me
@@Syuljie_07 I mean the variety show Yuqi hosting is keep running
i’m all for idols getting the bag❤ way too many earn so little, and end up indebted to life to their companies
No baby girl its more people = more money and....yin yang contracts🎉❤
it's literally what they said though... the chinese entertainment is bigger, that's why chinese celebrities gain more than kpop artists and even actors
Furthermore Kpop idols in Korea were known to be psychologically abused by their Agent and Korea entertainment industry are notorious for being brutal. Look at their yearly cosmetic surgery & suicide rates. Sadly, these idols were unprotected by their government.
Whereas, China entertainment industry are monitored by guidelines & laws, and the entertainers, artist are protected by such guidelines, laws & moral rules set by the government.
They all know the consequences of any immoral conduct.
❤️🔥Lay and Jackson are super
talented in any country!❤️🔥
No hate towards Victoria, I just don't know her.
And Wang Yibo. My favorite 🎉🎉🎉
Chinese idols always look like they’re worth a million bucks haha💸
😂😂😂😂
😂😂😂😂
Kr*s wu had over 400M US dollars net worth
@@criatanraAll gone now. Her mother need to sell his assets to pay debts.
XG is really popular in China, though. No wonder that they sold out 3 shows in just a second cuz they’re Global GG. That’s a good strat.
But with due respect of team bonding for working for years, its not for the bigger money but friendship is. How i wish to see jackson together with his group soon. ❤
I saw big bang perform in new year eve in china
A long time ago it was lax now the government doesn't want k-pop in their country anymore
Wish Wang Yibo had returned to Korea after UNIQ stopped performing. He's so successful now!
China population is over 1 BILLION. Korea is only about 51 MILLIONS. China's entertainment industry doesn't need Japan, US, Brazil and Southeast Asia market to thrive. South Korea entertainment would have very small market if it wasn't a global phenomenon. I get why Chinese KPop idols go back home, why bother travel the world when your own country gives you all the wealth you'll ever needed + you'll get to be with your friends and family.
China no cuanta como mercado porque es cerrado y no tienen proyección internacianal supongo que estos idolos son famosos en asia, no son novatos por eso les va bien cuando vuelven, pero son famosos solo allá
1.7 Billion people market. is the reason.
Jackson Wang ❤️❤️❤️
Lay is amazing!!! most successful, most talented and so humble.
Explains why Cheng Xiao never returned to wjsn despite being one of the most popular and promoted members at the time.
Also korea have a policy for foreigners to earn less compared to koreans idols. Thats why chinese idols rather go back to china they pay fair and they have more deals compared in korea
Glad Ricky & Hao will be mega rich back home after Jan 2026🙏💪
Oh please, let them go to China, although unfortunately there is not much room for idols, there are still things to do. A company that does not value them, and even mistreats them like Ricky, does not deserve them.
China's been surprising the world quite fast from the past few years. Their development especially in the entertainment industry is insane 🔥
They built fame in Korea and make real money after they return
Tldr: More money and better life.
No one said that it was actually because of the exploitation of them by the Korean entertainment industry.If you watch their interviews you'll see this.
They have very harsh systems and discrimination against foreigners.
In the early days, the foreign member Han Geng had to wear a mask on stage because he was the only foreigner in the group.
Lay is probably worth more than all the other Exo members combined. Especially, if you consider the fact that SM is taking a HUGE chunk of their idols earnings.
Awh jinyoung at the end being emotional at the maknaes 🥲☺️
So what happens if the kpop group gets back together, like what we hope happens with Seventeen? Jun and Minghao would, obviously more than likely go back to China, but what if - after all mandatory service is completed - the groups get back together? (Oh, and Lay's was not because of disbanding as it feels this video may have given. His contract ended. Yes...I realise it's a short, so...)
Surely, it would then depend on: who has remained with their original agency, agency negotiations around the group IP & scheduling, and what kind of comeback they want to achieve 🤔?
Seventeen's case it just seems like as long as the group remain on good terms, then the Chinese members will continue to work around the enlisting schedule while still promoting in both countries.
Often the reason a lot of Chinese idols end up not promoting in South Korea anymore is usually disbandment and/or group member issues.
Also, sometimes they are just not that well known in South Korea without the group's wider name (Chinese idols often aren't promoted or sent on shows for the wider South Korean public to get to know them) so it makes more sense financially and for their careers to promote in China.
Jun & Hao are active in Chinese industry along with being k-pop idols in Korea.. They participated/were regular members in many variety shows & Jun is pursuing his acting career (in Cdramas) 👍 so it's all smooth with SVT.. no concerns there 🧿 until seventy (& beyond) SVT will be SVT 💎
the thing is,after a certain point,all groups will slow down a bit when members start focusing on their own careers.they cant always be all about the group,they have their own ambitions too.when svt reaches that point,i think jun and the8 will focus more in c ent
As far I know and has been stated by the agency, I believe the members of Seventeen that aren't yet needing to enlist/don't have to are going to continue as Seventeen. Since they have more members than other groups and members from both China and America, as well as Scoups who will not be enlisting, I think they intend to perform and promote with the members that aren't serving. I can imagine the members will have more solo works potentially as well though and I know Jun is acting in China right now, but only until early next year, then he will return. I'm wondering actually if Jun is taking this acting opportunity in part because he may have to be more present in the group in the coming future but I'm not sure.
Wang Yibo and EXO former Chinese member are different from Seventeen's Chinese members. SVT's bonding, their brotherhood is so strong. Therefore, Jun & Minghao always try to attend group activities even they've to fly a lot or having a very busy schedule. They priority the group most, recently Minghao was cast in youth periplous but because of group schedule, album promotion, going seventeen filming he didn't able to film some episodes in that show. As for Jun it's the same he have been flying China to Korea frequently to attend group activities. Seventeen promotes themselves in mainland China ( recently went Beijing for offline fan meeting )
Nevertheless we don't know what future holds. Let's hope we'll able to see them together for a long time.
Intelligent people
Chinese entertainment have been around quite longer and actually bigger than korean. I remember back in the 80-90s where chinese movies, dramas, musics are so popular whereas korean was nowhere to be seen.
Korean entertainment raised to prominent in late 2000s.
Also, when a born chinese actor/actress go abroad they will always return to china in the end. Because of how they citizenship work. They will always have double citizenship. The chinese will never let their citizens go. That is also why, you can never extradite a chinese criminal when he return to their homeland after they committed crimes outside of their country.
You ever think that maybe they wanted to be closer to their families?
Former EXO member Kris Wu also returned to China and did well... if not for the scandals, he would've been great
Not scandal, rape on minors let's call a spade a spade.
Yeah now he’s in jail 💀 should’ve kept his crap together
Like bruv even Koreans have a hard time getting solo projects in SK, what more for foreigners. Honestly, online content is such a blessing because it allows so many idols to experience various types of shows they wouldn't have in the past.
Is this why Suga said, ' idk if we can visit China right now.. But maybe!? '
He did?? When??
@@6Euphoria6 In a live. Fans were asking him, so he said they can't. Then he wondered if any kpop artists had visited China in the past few years. I don't remember which live though. At the time tried to search why he said that but couldn't find anything. .
@@shreyasitambraparni5713 ooh ok
@@shreyasitambraparni5713I don't think they can like seventeen did fansign in beijing with all members because 2 are Chinese and 2 are American and others got allowed too because they are way too famous in China but on the other bts never promoted there because they have no Chinese member so their popularity is less too in China unlike seventeen or other groups
2:10:30 it's a quick move, and it's a live performance, not music video. You can see the mics.
Performance/Dance Practice: KBS Festival 2022
Blackswan was about to perform for full mon but canceled due to weather. I heard their popularity in china is insane.
Thissssss Chinese luminas love LOVE Blackswan💗💗💗
Now i understand Yuqi and Minghao for came and back to China and Korea doing idol job and variety show