One issue with extending the services further out from the existing termini is that the class 345 trains were designed for relatively short distance suburban services. Reading is already a stretch, but it gets away with it because most people travelling from Reading to London are likely to use GWR services rather than spending an hour on a stopping service just to get to Paddington - but if the trains were intended to replace existing services for through passengers then you would want to rethink things like the seating layout and lack of toilets.
Very true. One option potentially is to not run through services for the entirety of the route from East/West and instead have trains terminate before they reach the very end of the rest of the termini.
@@traintakes I notice in the current timetable that most services from the Shenfield leg still only go as far as Paddington. I think this is due to change soon, whereas the Abbey Wood branch now sees regular through trains to both Heathrow Terminal stations (4&5, via 2&3) and to Reading and Maidenhead.
Ah this explains why it does not go out to Didcot. I always assumed it was timetabling. While GWR have the stupid restrictions between 16:30 and 19:30 for travellers leaving London the Purple Train is really important.
It was too good an opportunity to pass up 😂 Very difficult to find a ‘PG’ moment to include though 😂 Trying to insert more funny bits and bobs like this into my videos to spice them up a bit so I’m glad this but came off! Thanks for watching 😁
It's so nice to see the Elizabeth Line in service. Hopefully in May people who use the Elizabeth Line can go from Shenfield to Heathrow Airport Terminals 2 & 3, Terminal 4 and Terminal 5 and Shenfield to Reading as well.
Agreed Andrew! That’s the plan and the final phase of completion - think it’s just route training and software bits and bobs to tick off and then complete through running should be in force 👍
Thank you my friend! Far longer than I initially anticipated 😅 But worth it for the extra time put into it I think. Hoping some of the templates and styles applied here will be more easily re-purposed for future ideas. Best laid plans etc! Happy New Year 🍻
Thanks - great list. Maybe 102 would be that (after the magnificent effort of 5 on the Victoria line) the Elizabeth line has 0 new cross-platform interchanges with other lines - only the one at Stratford (with the Central) which was already there ...
You will indeed George. Think they are doing test runs now, so they full service should be joined up soon. For now though, you could start at Stratford, get off at Whitechapel, but stay on the same platform and wait for a Heathrow train to arrive shortly afterwards. Hope that helps!
Hi Daniel! Yep that’s right, they do - an Elizabeth line extension in the same direction would likely be a stopping service - it also just means that passengers doing a longer distance wouldn’t need to change trains if they wanted to, say, go beyond Liverpool Street etc. Nothing set in stone yet but the infrastructure wouldn’t take long to implement. Who knows!
Good for those Londoners who get a nice railway infrastructure. Meanwhile those in the north get exactly nothing.......even some major railway lines including Huddersfield line and MML are still unelectrified.
@@OnTheRailwayOfficial Hell no! Those are not what we want. And HS2 is just a giant waste of taxpayer money. That money could have been used to upgrade the existing infrastructure on electrification and signalling.
So apparently there was a bidding process and MTR did bid for the renewal, but they decided to go in a different direction. This article explains in more detail - www.cityam.com/chinese-owned-mtr-loses-elizabeth-line-contract/ Quite interesting - MTR obviously had a lot significant milestones with the project, but it seems to be down to operational performance and the west wanting to rely less on China.
@@traintakes it really is. By the dutch railways they are planning to extend the IC Direct services by i guess 2028 wich goes now from Breda to Amsterdam Centraal but then there to Groningen/Leeuwarden and diverted via Amsterdam Zuid with the new NS ICNG trains
@@marcogeurts9881 I absolutely love the Dutch system. I did a trip there for work in 2017 and did most of the country by rail, primarily based in Utrecht. Absolutely brilliant! I miss the double-decker trains!
Think it should be easy enough, they will still be able to run the same number of trains per hour and there’s the potential to order new units of Class 345s as well if required 😃
The most expensive line in EU means it was too over paid for the project. I took the train from T5 to T4 and the trains was squeaking so loud that my goose bumps cringed so hard.
It’s a shame there’s no USB charging points on these trains and the lack of Wi-Fi is an issue. Didn’t anyone think about the amount of folk with mobile phones and that they might by chance be using the service. The trains are not bad but not a great design. There seems to be an element of cost cutting in their design and the thought that went into them is lacking. The seats are not comfortable and I personally would prefer to stand. The GWR units that run to Paddington from Reading are better. I have in the past stood from London to Newcastle on a packed train and would prefer that instead of the Elizabeth line trains, whoever built them didn’t use them or have a clue. We deserve better.
Not sure what you mean by this. WiFi is always going to be poor if you’re using a public service a hundred others are trying to access at the same time, maybe a phone addiction symptom on your part there but I’m not going to probe further. Seats are far better than any of the tube lines, stand then. If you deserve better then pay more taxes.
@@peeper2070 With modern life we are often advised to go to a website for extra information, travel is a classic example. Some train companies have a limited Wi-Fi you can register to use, basic but it works. With Crossrail/ The Elizabeth Line there’s been a substantial amount of money spent. I cannot say how many people have a mobile phone but it’s a good few million in the uk, yet they get overlooked which is a shame. If you are currently on a train it is nice to know if you need to change to a different carriage to allow for shorter platforms or which one to be in for the best departure and to help avoid longer delays than necessary. I think the trains were bought on the cheap as it were and as there’s no policy to have charging points for a phone or even the inclusion of toilets they were not included. A mobile phone can be handy but it should not become a distraction when out and about. If it’s possible I try to find a decent seat but they aren’t always comfortable and some are worse than others, the ones on GWR are a prime example.
@@markomarten, a 4G or 5G connection is far more secure and stable; why be so keen on Wi-Fi? As for USB ports, they are being added, although, in my view, they should have added power sockets instead, as those are universal as well as more secure.
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📝Have you travelled on the Elizabeth line yet? What are your thoughts? Comment below👇
I know everything about Elizabeth line and i have got on it
Paddington was the first station have fire alarm go off when it first opened
I remember hearing about this! Luckily was at the other end of the line when that happened. A fun first day for the organisers!
Fabulous, can't wait to ride it in two weeks. See you Elizabeth Line! 😊
Thanks for your comment and apologies for my hideously late reply! Hope you enjoyed it!
One issue with extending the services further out from the existing termini is that the class 345 trains were designed for relatively short distance suburban services. Reading is already a stretch, but it gets away with it because most people travelling from Reading to London are likely to use GWR services rather than spending an hour on a stopping service just to get to Paddington - but if the trains were intended to replace existing services for through passengers then you would want to rethink things like the seating layout and lack of toilets.
Very true. One option potentially is to not run through services for the entirety of the route from East/West and instead have trains terminate before they reach the very end of the rest of the termini.
@@traintakes I notice in the current timetable that most services from the Shenfield leg still only go as far as Paddington. I think this is due to change soon, whereas the Abbey Wood branch now sees regular through trains to both Heathrow Terminal stations (4&5, via 2&3) and to Reading and Maidenhead.
Ah this explains why it does not go out to Didcot. I always assumed it was timetabling. While GWR have the stupid restrictions between 16:30 and 19:30 for travellers leaving London the Purple Train is really important.
Magnificent mate
Thanks! HNY!
@@traintakes same to u
Great to start the year with a new video from TrainsOnTheBrain 🙌 Super interesting and thorough video as always, Nick!
Good arrows Seb!
What a great video!
Thank you CPT! Painstaking to put together, but worth it in the long run!
19:19 I loled so hard when you showed Ali G when Staines was mentioned 😂😂😂😂
It was too good an opportunity to pass up 😂 Very difficult to find a ‘PG’ moment to include though 😂
Trying to insert more funny bits and bobs like this into my videos to spice them up a bit so I’m glad this but came off! Thanks for watching 😁
@@traintakes that's good to hear! I think it will defo be beneficial. Keep it up 😃👍
I LOVE THE ELIZABETH LINE!!!
If you love it so much why don't you marry it
It's so nice to see the Elizabeth Line in service. Hopefully in May people who use the Elizabeth Line can go from Shenfield to Heathrow Airport Terminals 2 & 3, Terminal 4 and Terminal 5 and Shenfield to Reading as well.
Agreed Andrew! That’s the plan and the final phase of completion - think it’s just route training and software bits and bobs to tick off and then complete through running should be in force 👍
Absolutely 👍
Not blowing smoke up you.
This is the most Video I have seen in some time.
Thanks so much John!!
Great Video, I wonder how long it took to put this video together. Great to see you back. 😃
Thank you my friend! Far longer than I initially anticipated 😅 But worth it for the extra time put into it I think. Hoping some of the templates and styles applied here will be more easily re-purposed for future ideas. Best laid plans etc! Happy New Year 🍻
Nice.
👊
Thanks - great list. Maybe 102 would be that (after the magnificent effort of 5 on the Victoria line) the Elizabeth line has 0 new cross-platform interchanges with other lines - only the one at Stratford (with the Central) which was already there ...
Thanks Rick, HNY to you. Yep, some long old walks in the core section to make your connections!
Elizabeth Line Class 345
3:50 like you wouldn’t believe lol..
Ha! It was hard enough trying to get these right for the video, I can't imagine what it's like 'behind the wheel' so to speak.
I live in East London and would like to travel to heathrow will I be able to get their from Stratford, directly eventually?
You will indeed George. Think they are doing test runs now, so they full service should be joined up soon. For now though, you could start at Stratford, get off at Whitechapel, but stay on the same platform and wait for a Heathrow train to arrive shortly afterwards. Hope that helps!
@@traintakes thanks, which year will it start?
@@George-jz9fk This year, hopefully fairly soon, by the spring at the latest if all goes well 👍
13 at some stations you have to do a lot of walking and there’s steps but no escalators
Great east angler does good fast service to Southend Victoria Station from Liverpool Street London?
Hi Daniel! Yep that’s right, they do - an Elizabeth line extension in the same direction would likely be a stopping service - it also just means that passengers doing a longer distance wouldn’t need to change trains if they wanted to, say, go beyond Liverpool Street etc. Nothing set in stone yet but the infrastructure wouldn’t take long to implement. Who knows!
First to comment!
Indeed! HNY
I live near derby :).
elizabeth Line = purple train!
"i only wanna see you riding on the purple train..."
Good for those Londoners who get a nice railway infrastructure. Meanwhile those in the north get exactly nothing.......even some major railway lines including Huddersfield line and MML are still unelectrified.
You are getting northern powerhouse, East West rail, and HS2 so stop complaining.
@@OnTheRailwayOfficial Hell no! Those are not what we want. And HS2 is just a giant waste of taxpayer money. That money could have been used to upgrade the existing infrastructure on electrification and signalling.
@@pikachu8508 HS2 is NOT funded by taxpayers.
@@OnTheRailwayOfficial Yes it is. Phase 1 and 2a of the HS2 are funded by the government.
@@pikachu8508 Yes funded by the government, not through the taxpayer.
Why is MTR not allowed to operate this line soon? Any big problems?
So apparently there was a bidding process and MTR did bid for the renewal, but they decided to go in a different direction.
This article explains in more detail - www.cityam.com/chinese-owned-mtr-loses-elizabeth-line-contract/
Quite interesting - MTR obviously had a lot significant milestones with the project, but it seems to be down to operational performance and the west wanting to rely less on China.
MTR?
mtrel.co.uk/
The lizzy will be a great line
Indeed! Not long now before it’s fully connected right the way through from Shenfield to Reading 👍
@TrainsOnTheBrain there are no through reading to Shenfield services. it's only Shenfield to Heathrow
@@Keithbarber They start in May 👍
@TrainsOnTheBrain some facts what you told i didn't know
Nice! I’m discovering new facts about it everyday…probably enough to fill another video at this rate! What a crazy line it is.
@@traintakes it really is. By the dutch railways they are planning to extend the IC Direct services by i guess 2028 wich goes now from Breda to Amsterdam Centraal but then there to Groningen/Leeuwarden and diverted via Amsterdam Zuid with the new NS ICNG trains
@@marcogeurts9881 I absolutely love the Dutch system. I did a trip there for work in 2017 and did most of the country by rail, primarily based in Utrecht. Absolutely brilliant! I miss the double-decker trains!
@@traintakes if you knew facts about the dutch railways you could have made a video about it😅
@@marcogeurts9881 Ha, well maybe that’s one for the future 😎 Maybe I need to enlist your help as a tour guide next time!
9:38 What?
I tell no lies.
101 facts chiltern railways pls
I don't think elizabeth line should go to Southend Victoria stopping all way end Essex too too long ?
Think it should be easy enough, they will still be able to run the same number of trains per hour and there’s the potential to order new units of Class 345s as well if required 😃
@@traintakes southend to heathrow would be a LONG way to go without any toilets
ELIZABETH LINE
Yep… That’s the one 😂
The most expensive line in EU means it was too over paid for the project. I took the train from T5 to T4 and the trains was squeaking so loud that my goose bumps cringed so hard.
It’s a shame there’s no USB charging points on these trains and the lack of Wi-Fi is an issue. Didn’t anyone think about the amount of folk with mobile phones and that they might by chance be using the service. The trains are not bad but not a great design. There seems to be an element of cost cutting in their design and the thought that went into them is lacking. The seats are not comfortable and I personally would prefer to stand. The GWR units that run to Paddington from Reading are better. I have in the past stood from London to Newcastle on a packed train and would prefer that instead of the Elizabeth line trains, whoever built them didn’t use them or have a clue. We deserve better.
Not sure what you mean by this. WiFi is always going to be poor if you’re using a public service a hundred others are trying to access at the same time, maybe a phone addiction symptom on your part there but I’m not going to probe further. Seats are far better than any of the tube lines, stand then. If you deserve better then pay more taxes.
@@peeper2070 With modern life we are often advised to go to a website for extra information, travel is a classic example. Some train companies have a limited Wi-Fi you can register to use, basic but it works. With Crossrail/ The Elizabeth Line there’s been a substantial amount of money spent. I cannot say how many people have a mobile phone but it’s a good few million in the uk, yet they get overlooked which is a shame. If you are currently on a train it is nice to know if you need to change to a different carriage to allow for shorter platforms or which one to be in for the best departure and to help avoid longer delays than necessary. I think the trains were bought on the cheap as it were and as there’s no policy to have charging points for a phone or even the inclusion of toilets they were not included. A mobile phone can be handy but it should not become a distraction when out and about. If it’s possible I try to find a decent seat but they aren’t always comfortable and some are worse than others, the ones on GWR are a prime example.
@@markomarten, a 4G or 5G connection is far more secure and stable; why be so keen on Wi-Fi? As for USB ports, they are being added, although, in my view, they should have added power sockets instead, as those are universal as well as more secure.
who designed these ghastly looking trains ? much better old school emus.
Not a fan? I thought they looked quite sleek!