There are a few presets FROM Pigments, and you can do some minor tweaks to the sounds, but of course you have to buy the instrument to get access to complete editing. Also, you can always add sound packs that have more Pigments presets.
I love how MiniFreak is basically becoming a hardware Serum. I want to get a MiniFreak at some point but I’ll still have fun playing with MiniFreak V for now.
Whenever a new interesting plugin comes out I always come to your place and I'm never disappointed. You always have the most concise, well presented descriptions of products. Thank you
Thanks for the video Jef. I was initially going to pass since I've only had 9 for a year, but mini freak, acid and a few others for an upgrade price is hard to pass up - and I already have Pigments.
Very overpriced upgrade pricing considering the marginal updates and lack of new instruments. I already own the Minifreak VST and Pigments (which I don't think is included in V Collection X) as well. A shame because Arturia used to give very good upgrade pricing to existing customers who had made several purchases.
If you have been steadily adding new instruments when they become available, the crossgrade price comes out to $99, which I think is fair given that the CP-70 and the AUGMENTED WOODWINDS were the brand new additions. I don't think Pigments will ever be a part of the V Collection because it is considered a native software instrument as opposed to either an emulation of something that existed or instrument library (the Augmented Series).
@@DerekPower I’m quoted between $149 to $199 which seems unfair considering you can usually score a full upgrade from even one older versions on sales throughout the year for $299.
I was happily surprised to see Arturia take into account things we buy between releases of V Collection. I have 9 and bought Acid V earlier this year - the upgrade price I see reflects what I already paid for Acid V. This is something Native Instruments really need to learn so I’m not paying twice for things between releases of Komplete. Not sure how many times I’ve bought Playbox 😂 Btw beware when using the KK software and browsing presets - sometimes the numbers of presets don’t add up - especially with Pigments. I got in touch with Arturia and they realized they stopped adding NKS presets at v3.0, so 3.5 and 4.0 presets are missing. I have a KK mkII but if I can, I run everything standalone.
Oh dang! Good to know! And yeah, they seem like the best for discounting stuff, never understand why some people still complain about the update costs...
@@FrankLorenz23 $299. I use Pigments when I want to really "go exploring" and while there are deeper/broader VSTs I absolutely love its interface. When I added up what I get that I actually want then ask the question, "Would I pay around $50 for each of those" the answer for me was yes. (Juno, Vocoder, OB-Xa, MS-20, Minifreak V, 😍Acid V!!!😋, plus re-worked CS-80, Jup 8, P5, and Mini)
V-collection used to have the Spark drum machine included. I don’t know why it is no longer included but I still have it installed. I don’t think it’s updated anymore…
So a few things ... - I too use Analog Lab as an audition of sorts if I don't have a particular synth in mind or I want to know what is available in a general category. If I know I want to use that specific synth, I go directly there. - Time was that Arturia had Spark, which was both a controller and virtual software specific for synthesized drums. They have discontinued this years ago. I could see Arturia doing something like AUGMENTED PERCUSSION or perhaps AUGMENTED DRUMS where you can go either acoustic or electric or the blend of the two. This is if they want to go into Roland or XLN Audio or the like territory. - I've used Arturia's stuff since 2009 and you really are spoiled for choice when it comes to instruments.
Yeah, augmented percussion could be my fave of the bunch! Otherwise an 808 redux wouldn't be that exciting on its own... some hybrid would be fantastic!
I think that'a already an option with the v5.0 firmware, no? Not for about Minifreak but it's smaller brother Microfreak did got sample loading + playing in the latest firmware (like 6-7 months ago)
I suspected they would do more Play Series things, ehrm I mean Augmented Series. Too easy to drop in samples and slap on a different UI picture vs building a new synth. They still could do Roland JX, Crumar Bit99, Ensoniq Mirage. Maybe V Collection XI?
After making this video it occurred to me that I'd love to see Analog lab get even more powerful to answer my "problem" with too many synths with too many parameters... what would be super cool would be more macros in Analog Lab that could get you to the meat and potatoes of a patch on ANY of their synths without having to open that synth and re-learn the interface of that particular one. That might be a BIG ask though!
@@jefgibbons I think well mapped 16-24 knobs is plenty. That's how I use Komplete Kontrol, I map the usual parameters, filters, ADSR, FX mix etc on those pages since you always change those parameters to make a patch fit. KK works fine for that. The Analog Labs knobs function have been super wonky and often to no use at all. AND no NKS presets for Analog lab to preview, that is so bonkers when that would increase the usability 100%. And they have NKS for the other synths!? Oh well A bunch of NKS presets are available at the NI forum in the NKS preset thread. I just dropped my 700+ NKSs for Retrologue2. Grab it if you like. Graphis too.
MiniFreak lacks of the MicroFreak's "keyboard"! Why they've didn't made two versions? "Buchla keys" could use the same parts of the "normal keys" version minus these keys and plus it's "PCB keybed" including the amazing "pressure" feature that isn't in "normal keys".
@@jefgibbons Actually I've bought a used MicroFreak only because of these keys! I've thought that it will be my new interesting MIDI controller. And about a year later we get that amazing update with granular and samples :) Not the best sampler in the world but it's really lightweight and "for free"! :))
Forgive the highjack, but I for one would love to hear your opinions on the new MacBook you have there. I’ve looked at many reviews but they all just run a bunch of test programs.
It's 2 years old now... 16" 4TB 64GBRam... and it's a beast. I LOVE it... except for when it bricked on a simple security update and I lost a ton... So: keep up to date on Time Machine backups and DEFINITELY get Apple care! (my last MBP lasted only 4 years and had a Logic board die in the middle of those years... and at the end of those years!!)
Hi Jeff. How are you? Long time, no see. Lol. Question: Are there any libraries that have great harmonica sample libraries? Other question... if you have neither, which is a better buy... Native Instruments Komplete/ultimate, or the Arturia V collection?i am learning mpc live 2, reason studios 12 and Fl studios 21 or 22.i haven't stated Fl studios yet though. Thank you. Is native instruments still half off? Since so many people have used those sounds does that make it a bad choice and investment of funds? Thank you.
NI still has lots of stuff on sale... but between the two: NI is more sample based+synths and Arturia is mostly synth (a few sampled type instruments like the pianos etc but even their orchestral stuff is synth on purpose) So it's more a question of what you need to add to what you already have!
Howcome microfreak is better equipped than minifreak with sample oscillator, wavetable import and so on? A cheaper synth with more possibilities. Interesting.
I think part of it is the complexity of having the digital equivalent on your computer! And that makes the synth way more usable and attractive to me...
I have 9 and I noticed that a lot of the existing plugins were updated to V. I would like to know what they added to especially the OP-Xa which is my fave and the others of course.
I feel like a lot of the updates are an effort to make them even truer to the sound of the originals... which at the end of the day is often meaningless to me since I don't have most of them to compare... so the first versions sounded like the hardware, the next versions even more like the hardware... but as long as the patches sound good I'm often indifferent!
Most of the new collection insturments didn't have any major updates over the previous version. Only twodid: Mini (moog) had an updated engine and Wurlie (Wurlitzer) did have updates to their sound engines. The rest had minor updates related to the themes, preset management, buttons, etc. So if you have nine, only these two have new engines. But you get several new instruments, Aciv V (303 clone), a Yamaha CP-80 electric piano, the Minifreak v2, and the 2 new Augmented Brass/Woodwinds.
Thanks for the info! I think I am going to stick with 9 for now...I thought there might be major updates to what I already had but apparently not and I think I will probably buy individual new ones going forward as they release if anything really catches my eye...
Installed my arturia plugins and found about half of them do not work on my MacBook Pro M3 Pro running Sonoma. Dissapointing......hope they fix it soon....
It's strange. They will run stand alone, and they will run in Maschine ONLY IF if I load them as a VST plug in. If I try to load them from the browser I get a compatability error. NOTE it is the V3 instruments in the collection I'm having problems with. The V2 instruments load fine....@@jefgibbons
I refuse to make this nonsensical upgrade. I love arturia but hell no. I just purchased the minifreak and fuse 4. I own alot of Arturia vsts too and then u have the nerve to ask 199$ for a few instruments upgrade. This is an Arturia scam. No disrespect. I refuse this upgrade. I will wait for 2024 xmas for another upgrade.
Heads up, Pigments is NOT included in this version... my mistake to those who saw the early version of this video!
There are a few presets FROM Pigments, and you can do some minor tweaks to the sounds, but of course you have to buy the instrument to get access to complete editing. Also, you can always add sound packs that have more Pigments presets.
I love how MiniFreak is basically becoming a hardware Serum. I want to get a MiniFreak at some point but I’ll still have fun playing with MiniFreak V for now.
Getting there! Though I DO love Serum as well ;)
Whenever a new interesting plugin comes out I always come to your place and I'm never disappointed. You always have the most concise, well presented descriptions of products. Thank you
Most welcome, appreciate your enthusiasm!!
Im happy with this update and, as always, solid review
Fantastic overview as ever, really appreciate all your content Jef :)
Thanks James, appreciate the support!
Thanks for the video Jef. I was initially going to pass since I've only had 9 for a year, but mini freak, acid and a few others for an upgrade price is hard to pass up - and I already have Pigments.
Very overpriced upgrade pricing considering the marginal updates and lack of new instruments. I already own the Minifreak VST and Pigments (which I don't think is included in V Collection X) as well. A shame because Arturia used to give very good upgrade pricing to existing customers who had made several purchases.
If you have been steadily adding new instruments when they become available, the crossgrade price comes out to $99, which I think is fair given that the CP-70 and the AUGMENTED WOODWINDS were the brand new additions.
I don't think Pigments will ever be a part of the V Collection because it is considered a native software instrument as opposed to either an emulation of something that existed or instrument library (the Augmented Series).
Ahh crap you're right, I got that wrong! Gonna have to edit my video...
@@DerekPower I’m quoted between $149 to $199 which seems unfair considering you can usually score a full upgrade from even one older versions on sales throughout the year for $299.
@@jefgibbons Easy mistake to make considering how many VSTs Arturia has and what's all included in V Collection. Thanks for the overview.
My upgrade $299 …. & i have v collection 8 & most of the effects, pigments, plus 3 arturia keyboards …. Nah ill pass
I was happily surprised to see Arturia take into account things we buy between releases of V Collection. I have 9 and bought Acid V earlier this year - the upgrade price I see reflects what I already paid for Acid V.
This is something Native Instruments really need to learn so I’m not paying twice for things between releases of Komplete. Not sure how many times I’ve bought Playbox 😂
Btw beware when using the KK software and browsing presets - sometimes the numbers of presets don’t add up - especially with Pigments. I got in touch with Arturia and they realized they stopped adding NKS presets at v3.0, so 3.5 and 4.0 presets are missing. I have a KK mkII but if I can, I run everything standalone.
Oh dang! Good to know! And yeah, they seem like the best for discounting stuff, never understand why some people still complain about the update costs...
There's more than a dozen free soundbanks too that have a lot of the best sounding presets.
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Hey guys, If you already own 9 you just pay the upgrade price if you buy directly from Arturia. Log in and watch the price drop. Just a tip
I skipped VC8 and VC9, but will get this. The additions from all 3 put together to me make it worth the price.
Just be aware I was wrong when I said Pigments was included!
What is the upgrade price that Arturia demands for updating VC7 to VC10?
@@FrankLorenz23 $299. I use Pigments when I want to really "go exploring" and while there are deeper/broader VSTs I absolutely love its interface. When I added up what I get that I actually want then ask the question, "Would I pay around $50 for each of those" the answer for me was yes. (Juno, Vocoder, OB-Xa, MS-20, Minifreak V, 😍Acid V!!!😋, plus re-worked CS-80, Jup 8, P5, and Mini)
V-collection used to have the Spark drum machine included. I don’t know why it is no longer included but I still have it installed. I don’t think it’s updated anymore…
Yeah, it’s not around anymore
Dig the track you made with this collection!
Great video Jef, I'm def gonna update my V Collection
So a few things ...
- I too use Analog Lab as an audition of sorts if I don't have a particular synth in mind or I want to know what is available in a general category. If I know I want to use that specific synth, I go directly there.
- Time was that Arturia had Spark, which was both a controller and virtual software specific for synthesized drums. They have discontinued this years ago. I could see Arturia doing something like AUGMENTED PERCUSSION or perhaps AUGMENTED DRUMS where you can go either acoustic or electric or the blend of the two. This is if they want to go into Roland or XLN Audio or the like territory.
- I've used Arturia's stuff since 2009 and you really are spoiled for choice when it comes to instruments.
Yeah, augmented percussion could be my fave of the bunch! Otherwise an 808 redux wouldn't be that exciting on its own... some hybrid would be fantastic!
Jef: Drum sound in V-Collection....
Arturia:...why does he do that? We're now compelled to add it now.
That would be great!!
@@jefgibbons That wouldn't have been your move all along......hey wait a minute.
There's a mad genius in there brother.
Great content as always
I would love to see Arturia allow you to import your samples into the MINIFREAK hardware
Wouldn’t be surprised if that functionality comes later but at least you can do that in Pigments now
I think that'a already an option with the v5.0 firmware, no? Not for about Minifreak but it's smaller brother Microfreak did got sample loading + playing in the latest firmware (like 6-7 months ago)
be nice if they made some kind of layer designer plugin for the collection.
Arturia Spark is a good Drumplugin.
Excellent video, but I have to ask you what happened to the Osmose 😎?
Oh it's back on the desk! ;)
@@jefgibbons I'm reassured and I hope to see him again soon in a future video :) 😉
Is pigments actually included? I don’t see it listed on the webpage
Wondering the same
Its not, he said in a comment that it was a mistake
@@xegoni yeah, but my comment was three hours ago, the comment you’re talking about was 45 minutes ago :)
Damn, that would have made me update 9.
Nope! Sorry!
I suspected they would do more Play Series things, ehrm I mean Augmented Series. Too easy to drop in samples and slap on a different UI picture vs building a new synth. They still could do Roland JX, Crumar Bit99, Ensoniq Mirage. Maybe V Collection XI?
After making this video it occurred to me that I'd love to see Analog lab get even more powerful to answer my "problem" with too many synths with too many parameters... what would be super cool would be more macros in Analog Lab that could get you to the meat and potatoes of a patch on ANY of their synths without having to open that synth and re-learn the interface of that particular one. That might be a BIG ask though!
@@jefgibbons I think well mapped 16-24 knobs is plenty. That's how I use Komplete Kontrol, I map the usual parameters, filters, ADSR, FX mix etc on those pages since you always change those parameters to make a patch fit. KK works fine for that. The Analog Labs knobs function have been super wonky and often to no use at all. AND no NKS presets for Analog lab to preview, that is so bonkers when that would increase the usability 100%. And they have NKS for the other synths!? Oh well
A bunch of NKS presets are available at the NI forum in the NKS preset thread. I just dropped my 700+ NKSs for Retrologue2. Grab it if you like. Graphis too.
@@rikkshow good tip! Heading there now!
MiniFreak lacks of the MicroFreak's "keyboard"! Why they've didn't made two versions? "Buchla keys" could use the same parts of the "normal keys" version minus these keys and plus it's "PCB keybed" including the amazing "pressure" feature that isn't in "normal keys".
I’m not a huge fan of the micro freak keys, but it’s good to hear some people dig it!
@@jefgibbons Actually I've bought a used MicroFreak only because of these keys! I've thought that it will be my new interesting MIDI controller. And about a year later we get that amazing update with granular and samples :)
Not the best sampler in the world but it's really lightweight and "for free"! :))
Forgive the highjack, but I for one would love to hear your opinions on the new MacBook you have there. I’ve looked at many reviews but they all just run a bunch of test programs.
It's 2 years old now... 16" 4TB 64GBRam... and it's a beast. I LOVE it... except for when it bricked on a simple security update and I lost a ton... So: keep up to date on Time Machine backups and DEFINITELY get Apple care! (my last MBP lasted only 4 years and had a Logic board die in the middle of those years... and at the end of those years!!)
Paid 75 for 8 to 9 and its 200 for 9 to 10😢
Yeah that’s a significant jump… 😬
There is no special upgrade price available for V9 Collection owners. WTF?
Hi Jeff. How are you? Long time, no see. Lol. Question: Are there any libraries that have great harmonica sample libraries? Other question... if you have neither, which is a better buy... Native Instruments Komplete/ultimate, or the Arturia V collection?i am learning mpc live 2, reason studios 12 and Fl studios 21 or 22.i haven't stated Fl studios yet though. Thank you. Is native instruments still half off? Since so many people have used those sounds does that make it a bad choice and investment of funds? Thank you.
NI still has lots of stuff on sale... but between the two: NI is more sample based+synths and Arturia is mostly synth (a few sampled type instruments like the pianos etc but even their orchestral stuff is synth on purpose) So it's more a question of what you need to add to what you already have!
@jefgibbons thank you jef. Are there any great harmonica sample libraries?
Howcome microfreak is better equipped than minifreak with sample oscillator, wavetable import and so on? A cheaper synth with more possibilities. Interesting.
I think part of it is the complexity of having the digital equivalent on your computer! And that makes the synth way more usable and attractive to me...
I have 9 and I noticed that a lot of the existing plugins were updated to V. I would like to know what they added to especially the OP-Xa which is my fave and the others of course.
The OP-Xa wasn't updated from V-Collection 9 to X. Mini V and Wurli were. From V-Collection 8 to 9, CS-80, Prophet and Piano saw updates.
I feel like a lot of the updates are an effort to make them even truer to the sound of the originals... which at the end of the day is often meaningless to me since I don't have most of them to compare... so the first versions sounded like the hardware, the next versions even more like the hardware... but as long as the patches sound good I'm often indifferent!
Most of the new collection insturments didn't have any major updates over the previous version. Only twodid: Mini (moog) had an updated engine and Wurlie (Wurlitzer) did have updates to their sound engines. The rest had minor updates related to the themes, preset management, buttons, etc. So if you have nine, only these two have new engines. But you get several new instruments, Aciv V (303 clone), a Yamaha CP-80 electric piano, the Minifreak v2, and the 2 new Augmented Brass/Woodwinds.
Thanks for the info! I think I am going to stick with 9 for now...I thought there might be major updates to what I already had but apparently not and I think I will probably buy individual new ones going forward as they release if anything really catches my eye...
Hey - if you've bought from Arturia before and have an account with them you only pay the upgrade price after you log in. Just a thought. @@nuttob
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You have your Wet Bandit T-shirt on so you know it's serious ;) =]
Oh yeah man...
Installed my arturia plugins and found about half of them do not work on my MacBook Pro M3 Pro running Sonoma. Dissapointing......hope they fix it soon....
That’s weird… you loooked into yet? Fine on m2 Sonoma…
It's strange. They will run stand alone, and they will run in Maschine ONLY IF if I load them as a VST plug in. If I try to load them from the browser I get a compatability error. NOTE it is the V3 instruments in the collection I'm having problems with. The V2 instruments load fine....@@jefgibbons
They all work on my m3 pro
I refuse to make this nonsensical upgrade. I love arturia but hell no. I just purchased the minifreak and fuse 4. I own alot of Arturia vsts too and then u have the nerve to ask 199$ for a few instruments upgrade. This is an Arturia scam. No disrespect. I refuse this upgrade. I will wait for 2024 xmas for another upgrade.
I had no idea about the pricing… sorry to hear that!