Chargers Wildcard Weekend Postgame Recap: Laying An Egg In Houston
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- Опубликовано: 13 янв 2025
- Join us live as we recap the Chargers wildcard matchup with the Houston Texans. Everything Jim Harbaugh has built has been for this moment. Will they rise to the occasion and get the first playoff win for Justin Herbert, Khalil Mack, and many others? Let's Go Bolts!
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Salute to Derwin, Ladd, Henley, and Mack for leaving it all out there
Yeah some standout performances today even in the bad day
Hey it hurts but 5 things us Chargers fans need to remember: 1. This was a known rebuild year where we overachieved
2. Harbaugh did his job in year 1, establish the culture
3. We knew the receiving core was below average, the whole point of this year was to find any gem, we did in Mcconkey
4. We knew the defense needed improvement and in a single offseason and very little cap room, the defense improved by a lot and looks great going forward
5. This offseason we have more money and an established culture, this will be the worst team Harbaugh has.
Bolt Up!!
We will be alright we Overachieved this year
Exactly. People don’t get it. The best CB’s against our WR core? One of the best D lines against our IOL… but we are only a few pieces away. I can’t wait!!!
My disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined
You must be a new chargers fan lol
@ it’s a meme
The Chargers had a great season and it’s a beautiful thing to be a Chargers fan
Bolt up
The narrative that surrounds Justin Herbert that narrative never surrounded Peyton Manning there was never doubt in anybody's mind about that man
Wrong. Peyton Manning was always known as the dude who couldn’t win the big one until he did
It hurts when your defense balls out like that you end up getting destroyed in a game where you're 262 million quarterback is the weakest link on the field
The Defense has come up with 8 Turnovers, in the 2 playoff games.
Herbert has 1 TD and 4 INTs.
Thank you for the pod! Made me feel better, I feel we are on the right track for sure. 5 wins to 11 wins and the 5th seed is a huge improvement in one year! Looking forward to the draft and seeing what year two looks like in the Harbaugh era! Go Bolts!!
Happy to help 🙏🏻
The interior Oline must be fixed. We can't consistently run. Ladd is the only WR we had. Tripple covered today. A catching TE would be nice. A solid one.
Remember when Hortiz drafted FLowers over QJ. And then got stuck with QJ. 🤣
@@ItsreloadQJ was drafted 21st, Flowers was 22nd and Addison 23.
Also, Dalton Kincaid 25 and Sam LaPorta 34.
Thanks for everything guys. Being a fan in St. Louis is tough but you all make me feel as connected as I could possibly be. Appreciate you all!
Both playoff games for Herbert. First playoff, only scored 3 points in second half. Last game…well you get the drift.
Houston spotted the Bolts 2 1/2 qtrs to take game,finally they said screw it,you don't want it!?! Oh well!
I could tell you exactly where to start today and you know where you should be starting with Justin Herbert's inability to play it an elite level and us now realizing what we really have at quarterback which I've known for 2 years
Watching Herbert yesterday was like watching a rookie who had no idea what to do. Greg Romans play calling was absolutely horrible, and was like he was putting calls blind out of a hat. No scheme at all! I don’t know why they didn’t keep the same players and plays for this game that we were so successful with the last few weeks! No identity today on offense, and was disgusting to watch!
The play calling wasn't that Bad.
Herbert just doesn't understand how to run an Offense. Especially in big games.
He had 0 1st downs with his Legs.
Also on 1st and 10, with underneath route open. He threw an interception to OJ, who was bracketed, on a deep post-corner route.
@@shane8252yea no underneath routes where even on that play lol. there was 3 eligible receivers. bootleg to the right. a delayed deep over corner from Q, the same exact route from Ladd (bad WR spacing in that call) and the 3rd receiver running a wheel. so you have 3 verticals concepts. and the QJ was open for a split second. Lassiter stumbled. the saftey had inside leverage playing Ladd. but when you’re throwing 45 yards crossbody and don’t have time to set your feet. the ball hangs in the air longer than it needs to and then Lassiter has time to catch up on the route. horrible play design and nothing you said was right lmfao
@@WntrSoldr69 You don't seem to know ball, because you called that play completely wrong.
Watch the all 22 (27:20). It's Cover 1 w/ press man on QJ (x) and Ladd (slot), and off man on DD (z).
QJ and Ladd run the Same Route (Post-Corner) on opposite sides. Which is a standard concept vs cover 1. The Safety HAS to choose a Corner to defend.
QJ breaks to the Corner 1st, which makes Lassiter Flip his hips towards QJ. When Lassiter commits, Ladd then Breaks off his Route.
DD was the "Rush" route. He was lined up as the Z, against off-man coverage. He runs a simple 7 yard out. At worst, It should've been 2 and 3.
It was a great play design vs Cover 1. With Herbert rolling to his right, QJ should've NEVER been an option. Unless there was a clear busted assignment.
Ladd was clearly the deep Read AND Won his route! With an anticipatory throw to the Right Corner, it could've been an explosive play.
However on 1st down, if you don't like (or understand) the look. Then throw UNDEREATH the coverage (DD on the Out), and stay ahead of the chains.
Unfortunately, Herbert often struggles at processing and rarely throws with anticipation.
Year one of rebuild.. this was a successful season. Laid the foundation
Cope
Steven and Alex, Thank you so much, I really apreciate your thoughts and insights of this devastating game, this lost hurts but this is just our beggining, being a Chargers fan since 1978 and i can tell you that this is the best time to be a Charger fan, our future looks Amazing.
It's gross the amount of excuses Charger Fans make for Herbert.
Herbert's Stats since the 24-0 Lead in Jacksonville... 26/57 389 yds 1 TD & 4 Int
While the Defense has come up with 8 Turnovers!!!!!!!!
Herbert is an Elite Talent, but he's just not a very good QB.
He struggles at processing and working through progressions. It's been that way since College.
Hurts being a charger fan.
When you consider where we were at the end of last season, what was accomplished this season is nothing short of incredible.
The defense was one of the worst units last season, and now they are one of the best. The offense was obviously short handed, and has had to scratch and claw their way to score enough points to win 11 games. The interior of the o-line was bad, the running game was better but not where it needs to be in order to effectively implement Harbaugh’s system, the receivers were mostly a disappointment, other than Ladd, and there really wasn’t much help from the tight ends either.
The season was better than I expected, and I’m very excited to see how they go about finding the best talent to fortify the team moving forward!
I've been saying this since the 2022 season when he suffered the rib injury he hasn't been the same since Herbert has regressed He's gun shy I don't know if it can be fixed but we have a 262 million problem
Patrick has had bad days and won, he was given the chance to respond, defense and coaching, is no longer an excuse .
He also has had arguably the greatest TE of all time. Be for real lol
@@burrleejohnsonso did rivers in gates and what did that get him?
Herbert had a bad day but you can’t deny the o-lines awful performance and the fact that Tucker Fisk was our 3rd best WR today.
@@ThatGuyJesse619yea but he didn’t have Andy Reid or a HOF caliber Defensive player or two. No excuses. But you have to factor it all in.
Herbert SHOULD NOT be untouchable if teams come calling for a trade. With a package big enough the FO would be stupid if they didnt consider it
Chargers fans just got a taste of what Lamar Jackson had to deal with for four years and why we defended him as Ravens fans. From Greg Roman to the WR room.
Hey guys thanks for the season and looking forward to draft/offseason coverage! Rough way to end but many positives to this season making the best of a pretty barren roster
Thank you Tyler!
Damn. Where that smirk go? 😂
If Ladd was a true #1 everyone would be talking about just drafting another slot Wr & kicking him outside & no reasonable person is even bringing that up. That tells you everything.
This comment tells me everything about your lack of knowledge.
This game knocked my socks off. What happened on Defense had eye-popping plays and effort. What happened on Offense? I remember the Chargers hired an analyst at the very beginning. I don't know how he's used but, did he and Roman study this Texans team at all? (don't know how familiar Roman is with the Texans) I worry about the possibility of cumulative effects of past bad coaching, repeated changes in coaching, bad sacks and now, skimpy receiver talent, creating a continual subtle trauma that shows on the field for Herbert. The best part of getting to know the Chargers team is watching young men succeed, so, this is sad for me.
nobody:
katson: "right? right? right? right?"
Your entire comment history on our channel is pointing out something we say/do. Get a life.
First the Jaguar game meltdown, then the raider ass kicking, now the Houston no-show . Chargering !!
Herbert unfortunatley deserves the critisicm coming his way.......Rivers first 5 years: 55-25 record, 7 playoff games played, 19,513 yards, 135tds, 57 ints. .....Herbert first 5 years: 41-38 record, 21,093 137tds, 45Ints. 0-2 playoffs. Seriosuly, who would we rather have?
I think Jim and Joe Hortiz need to have a deep talk with Greg and Herbert on how they want this offense to look. The inconsistency in the play calling needs to be addressed prior to any offseason moves cuz that will dictate how they wanna operate. If they wanna run what we saw on Saturday, they need to get more HIGH END weapons around Ladd. If they want to run the traditional Greg Roman offense, they need to get a TE1, RB1 with less tread ware and solidify the IOL. They need to address this but I have faith that Jim and Joe will make it right by kickoff of next season! Not stellar end but still a good building block and EXPERIENCE that this team needed.
Yeah the thing is, Roman has always been who he is. There have never been adjustments.
I feel bad for Mack more than anyone on this team. Herbert will get a redemption opportunity, Mack may not.
He will be back
@ I hope you’re right!
If he is bought in into the regime he might stay and retire with us. At this point for him it feels it is more about winning than about the money.
Chargering big time. Harbaugh welcome to the Chargers curse.
Herbert was terrible straight up. But overall the offense was exposed on how limited they are against a really good defense. I don’t want to sound like a sore loser but the first Texans touchdown shouldn’t have happened. Stroud should’ve been flagged for intentional grounding and it should’ve been a safety.
Over 24 hours later and I’m still out on Herbert. Hurt me to my core to know that he might not be the guy. We may need a contingency plan for him
Nor were these words ever spoken about Patrick mahomes
Herbert has two playoff appearances both disasters by him
Joe Hortiz will be busy rebuilding the offensive line in the off-season. The receiving corps need to be overhauled as well. If it were me the O.C. would be replaced as well.
The Chargers have had three OCs over the last three years (Lombardi, Moore and now Roman), and you think they should make it four in four years?
@Willtellthetruth Roman didn't know how to use Herbert effectively. Romans recievers with the exception of the rookie don't know where the sticks are in key situations. Routinely short of the first down. And about that running game that don't realy exist. It's not up to me so Roman will return as Harbaugh is religiously loyal. Hope Roman gets the Center and guard he needs to bolster the O-line. We both know another receiver with the moxie of Ladd is a must and hope Q.J. continues to improve. And another running back.
If Herbert going to grow in that offense he needs to stay healthy and get some support, consist play from the line, backs, recievers and a fucking solid game plan week in and week out from the guy that put together today's game plan for the offense.
@@Willtellthetruth The previous regime used the OC's as pawns when we knew the HC was the problem. This year we tried to build a run first offense and couldn't do that. I feel he can't really call a great passing strategy.
@@alanteague2799
What a shit take. Blame everyone else BUT the QB....
I've never seen a QB have such leeway with a fan base.
Herbert is extremely talented, but he just isn't good enough.
@@AeQuitaS28we will see when he has proper weapons to throw to. Ladd was the only threat.
As far as the offense goes look we got two players that are part of the core and that's our tackles other than that that's it
Bro you could have written all this down and then post a single comment...
The Marcus Gray guy, maybe a bot looked so goofy in live chat lol.
Herbert was awful forcing the ball to QJ all season
Speaking of edges, TreMon Morris-Brash got a lot of hype during training camp and the preseason but never made it off the practice squad. I’m wondering how they’re feeling about him now and whether he has a future?
Is anyone really surprised? The Chargers had 2 regular season victories against a team (Broncos) with a winning record. Herbert had a bad game but to lay the blame on him is ludicrous. Much off season work to be done.
Herbert waited until the playoffs to have his worst game of the season.
Herbert had a bad day for sure, but not even Rivers does anything in this game if we’re being real. I’m placing my trust in Hortiz to figure it out next year(also JC Jackson was still being payed a whole lot. BOLT UP!
Why didn't he run at all? Didn't take off running at all and that's when he's at his best.
He was getting pressure at the snap. The OC doesn't even roll him out to give him the option. Pressure was interior the whole time. Free runners untouched. Or 3 people blocking 1 guy while 2 guys come at him.
@Itsreload it's hard to run when the IOL is the first thing to crumble 😂
Ladd is a rookie with a ton of upside and we’re mad because he couldn’t get 100% open on The #1 CB ( All pro) in the league. Let’s be real Herbert biggest flaw was trying to throw to QJ. This will be fixed.
Tee Higgins will be too expensive for how much he’s injured imo. I actually prefer Jaylen( Jayden?) Higgins. He catches everything. And of course, Tyler Warren. Down to use Zion Johnson and QJ in a trade package to move up and get Warren, or if teams bite trade up to get McMillan. WR,TE, Edge,guard, center, RB is what I want us to draft. Instead of Tee Higgins I’d push all that money towards Kelly and a guard.
In order to trade UP, you need to offer something a team WANTS. Teams have film on QJ and Zion isn't enough. Gonna need more than that (likely more picks)
@ oh for sure ( I actually was thinking our first or next year’s plus QJ and Zion). If someone was crazy enough to do that. But that’s it honestly. I wouldn’t give anything more than that and just stay put.
We lost because the Dirty Bubble kidnapped Jim Harbaugh.
Coming into this week, we definitely overlooked and underestimated the Texans. Overconfident I’d say.
The fans maybe. The team had their minds right. Just got beat.
Lol,As long as you have Herbert they ain't gone nowhere,he is a poor mans Rivers or Alex Smith 2.0
If they ran this defense back again you'd see bosa sitting on the sidelines hurt half the year. look it's over for this defense
I think DT in the 1st round would be a mistake. Poona and Tartt played great today, and they’ve been playing well all year. Just bring them back. Focus on other needs.
Need long term impact and while I love those guys, neither are true pass rushing difference makers.
@ I feel that. But also feel like there are more pressing needs. Maybe they trade for a certain DT? Looking forward to seeing what this team does to retool
Exactly the eagles have all those other things around their quarterback who isn't elite and they're able to win we're going to have to do the same thing we're going to have to surround Justin Herbert with a ton of talent because he's not the kind of guy like a Josh Allen that's going to put this team on his back and take him into the playoffs and win games he just proved that to us
Listen, I know Herbert didn't have a good game, but it wasn't bad. Obviously the final box score looks terrible.
Justin Herbert: 14/32, 242 yards, 1 TD, 4 INT...
We obviously watched the game and have more context though. Two of those interceptions were from drops. In fact, there were, I think, 7 drops in total? If you just take the drops away, you're looking at a 21/32, 300+ yard, 2 TD, 2 INT performance.
In fact, if you didn't have the early drops, you're in an entirely different game script early, and you might be shutting out the Texans up multiple scores at halftime. At the very least, if you don't have the two INT drops, the Chargers are still comfortably in the game, and Herbert doesn't need to force the final interception.
Sure, in a better game script, the Chargers probably run more, and Herbert's stats go down, but he's still maintaining that ~66%, 250 yards, 2 TD, 1 INT. Again, that's not an elite performance, but it's not bad, and it would have gotten the job done against this Texans team with how our defense was playing. The only difference was the drops because there are no receivers on this team outside of McConkey, who is a rookie.
We enjoy the show, first. Again, it was about HOW they played. GR will still be around and we’ve seen his track record. Also they don’t put a premium on skilled O players. As good as Alt has been, Brock Bowers could have helped this team/Herbert more. He had over 100 receptions for a terrible team. How will this O scheme be different next year?
The hat is the one✌️😎💯
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No wrong this is more than one rough day he has looked like this all year you know he hasn't looked right it meant it he hasn't looked right since the rib injury in 22
Into the draft
Alex is absolutely right about Herbert and his faith in QJ and Dissly problems.
It wasn't his best game😂 it was his worst game at the worst time and we're not going to blame this performance on anybody else but Justin Herbert
You guys are being a little harsh on Herbert. You said it yourselves, the dropped pass by Disly should have been a touchdown. Then he drops another for a pick six (I think?). Also, that pass to Ladd was a bit high, but if you look at the replay, it did go right between his hands, to be returned for another pick six. Such a bummer, but there’s 21 points for Texas off of turnovers and dropped passes, and add another 3 for another int. Yes, the int on the throw to QJ was q bad throw, but honestly QJ needs to do a better job of contesting that catch, even though we all know that is the weakest part of his game. Finally Alex, this is the playoffs, there is no “coming back to a player next week, today just isn’t his day” option. Herbert has such limited talent to go to, and limited options. QJ, and Disly really had to step up today, and they didn’t. They will build it up and bring in players for a better 2025, certainly talent wise. Overall, a very good year for the talent they had, and the injuries suffered. ⚡️⚡️
He wasn’t good today and it is what it is. We can’t keep excusing him over and over again. We know it’s not 100% on him, QJ and Dissly were awful, but he did not elevate this team to a win today either, he threw 4 interceptions. Only 1 of those I don’t put on him, but the first one especially was atrocious.
stop making excuses for justin , He deserves all the smoke this off season and i’m done defending him . Until he can win the big games against good teams he is who he is .
@@Jamookems yes, Herbie was far from his usual self today. That said, Q HAS to stop waiting on the ball and GO FREAKING GET IT like Ladd does, like any high performing WR does. Moss didn't wait for the ball. Q is the same size as he is, but thicker.
@@vileproductions8511Honestly what has Justin had. Look at Allen, Peyton, Farve, Lamar they all struggled. But his teammates have never bailed him out. What “big games” are you talking about. Dude is money in primetime, 0-2 like a lot of QBs that were greats.
Herbert was the worst player on the field, at the most important position.
He was outplayed big time by Stroud.
And has been outplayed by Mahomes in every game.
All I know is that this is the shittiest version of this Charger’s team that you’ll see in the Harbaugh era.
Truth
They didn’t practice well because of the fires
Texans did not do this to every elite qb lol , Josh Allen and Herbert yes , Mahomes and especially Lamar cooked them , no excuses for 50 million man
Wow! How CAN ANYONE QURSTION THE ALT 1, MCONNKI 2 PICKS????
Who knows what will happen now Herbert may never even see another playoff game, harbaugh may be gone in a year or two, Three quarters of this team is not going to be there next year
Ladd is not a #1 Wr in the NFL maybe the #1 slot Wr in the NFL & Im cool with that but that's it if people are being honest. A true #1 can play on the outside the majority of time & still win. What are you watching because it's not much from this years tape?
On defense CB1, resign some key FAs, find an edge and a DT with upside.
Basically Fox, Bosa, and Asante need to be replaced.
Fulton and Taylor are garbage too. All year you see them getting scored on.
I think we should keep Asante
Asante wasn’t even playing. Fox is decent as a full back. Bosa is old and can be used as a vet on 3rd downs. We need IOL, CB, WR, and a TE…
@ Asante can’t play the run well enough for this defensive scheme. They won’t give him the contract he can get elsewhere. Fox doesn’t play fullback. And Bosa would have to play for an extremely cheap country to justify a roster spot for an injury prone 3rd down specialist.
@ fox does play DT/FB they had a whole segment about it pre game. Once again Asante was hurt the whole season. We don’t know how he’ll play with this defense. Learn football before you speak. This team shouldn’t have even made the playoffs.
I’m curious to see who gets fired from a positional coaching stand point. In my opinion I want Roman gone but he will stay. I really really really want Devlin gone and the TE coach fired ASAP
Alex quit comparing Herbert to Peyton Manning Peyton won two super bowls and set records up and down Herbert hasn't done shit except pad his stats in the regular season
Herbert's numbers and Peyton's are exactly the same at the same point in his career. That is why the comparison gets brought up. Peyton was a playoff loser too. You are simply too emotional and can't think straight. You are seeing red.
@@Diemonoxexactly boy left 20 comments lol. I told yall it’s a rebuild. A competent team would have never gotten beat by Tampa Bay like we did. It was a blue print for future teams. Evans = Nico, Mixon = Bucky. + a better defense.
Hey guys! I see the chargers as bad as the Raiders. We are not good enough to win a playoff game. No bueno.
Why does Steven want Joey bosa back
Well he is under contract to start.
At least we know what we have now we have a quarterback that's good but not elite so we're going to have to surround him with a ton of talent kind of like a Trent dilfer style approach it trying to win a super bowl they did it we can do it too Herbert's not the quarterback that's going to carry us to the promised Land we're going to have to carry him to the promised Land then just have him not fuck it up
Tee Higgins and Trey Smith. I really don’t see why we can’t pay both if we cut Bosa. And then draft more offense early and often, hopefully Warren or Loveland. I want to see Herbert with an elite O line and weapons and I don’t need to think about improving the defense until that happens. Because Minter can make up for a mediocre roster and Roman can’t. It’s as simple as that.
Warren will likely be long gone by the time the Bolts pick (19th? 20th?). We still need an elite pass rusher which are often 1st rounders, WR, and run stopping ILB. My point is, can't go all offense in the draft.
@@damonm8916not that i actually said that, but yes you can. You can pick offense with all 10 draft picks and no one will arrest you and take you to draft jail. Oh, and you completely missed my point
Justin Herbert is a stat guy. He is very talented. He is a very good player. He IS NOT A WINNER. He never will be. Isn't in him. No matter the roster he will always lose big games, can't change his fate in those areas, just can't he is a loser with great stats.
i can’t defend him anymore , he deserves all of the smoke this
I disagree
He's not a good QB, he's just incredibly talented.
He's ALWAYS struggled processing.
(Go back and read Daniel Jeremiah's Draft Profile).
this reminded me of the lions vs texans game from earlier this season. The lions just have the talent to overcome Goffs performance in that match up.
A lot more than Emmanuel ocho brother The whole community sees what's going on with Herbert You're just in denial
Core of the defense what are you talking about bro bosa's going to be gone Mac is going to be gone Pune affords a free agent we got garbage cornerbacks Fulton gone safeties that are going to be gone perryman gone Morgan Fox most likely gone The whole core is going to be gone and you're dreaming if you think this defense is going to largely be run back not going to happen
No there's none from his rookie season like this this is undoubtedly the worst game Herbert has ever played foreign receptions and no touchdowns until the very end there Miss and throws overthrowing people throwing pics taking sacks terrible
Lad is a great number 2 p,NOT a number 1. As long as you have Herbert they not winning a SB or getting to AFC title game.Watson & Allen in several yrs have not won one,you think Herbie gonna win one???
He just put up 197 in his first career playoff game and this is your takeaway?
I’m not surprised the Chargers played like crap. You wouldn’t play very well either if the city you lived in was going up in flames how are you supposed to think about football when your friends and family lives are in danger and houses are burning down?
He choked like the playoffs scared him
Hahahahahhaahahahha told you all not to be complacent with that offense they are garbage, it's a rebuild year. Would've liked Jim to attempt fixing it this year but maybe offseason
How would he fix it this year? We had the worse cap space.
katson is unbearable. please don't bring him on again
Dude you're making excuses after excuses that's bullshit Herbert couldn't be expected to play well because they did it to everybody else bullshit
Yeah Herbert feels he has to keep throwing the ball to Quinton Johnston would want to hurt his feelings and since Justin Herbert such a nice guy and he's so well spoken and polite we can't possibly put my performance in the team's performance ahead of that
Sure we can take a lot of things moving forward we can start rethinking the quarterback spot and how possibly maybe we could get out from under his contract by trading him away or getting him to restructure it because as a game manager which he revealed himself to be he's way overpaid now we can spend a lot less money and get the same production out of another guy at that position and get similar results we're going to have to build the team around the quarterback whatever quarterback that is
Time to pay tee higgins
One bad game bro he scored no points in the Jacksonville game that we lost after having a huge lead
No Justin Herbert just sealed the narrative about him this was a chance to change it instead he cemented it
Justin Herbert is not him.
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Who else should the chargers get then?
Agree
Course you don't want to have that conversation you just paid the guy $262 million and we're fucking chained to him now
Excuses excuses excuses Alex we're tired of 5 years worth of excuses
Joe burrow has made it to the super bowl already bro what you talking about
Yeah Herbert's this that and the other thing as long as he's playing against teams with a losing record come on man don't make him out to be something he's not
This reminds me of the time Derek Carr had the power to tie the game against the Chargers and smirked while calling a timeout getting the winning field goal crushing the Chargers playoff dreams hahahahahahahahahhaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!! or the time when the Raiders EMBARRASSED the Chargers 63 points on live television, hahahahahahahaaaaaaaaaaaa!!!!!!!
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And that 63 point game was a blessing for us. So thanks!
@@Diemonox Sorry we didnt use any lubricant that night. hahahahahahahahahaaa
Hey guys! I see the chargers as bad as the Raiders. We are not good enough to win a playoff game. No bueno.