One thing to note about Stargirl’s final season. They were given a heads up while they were filming the last few episodes of the show that there was a good chance that the show wouldn’t continue after season 3, so they wrote and shot two ending for the season, one that would set up what would’ve been season 4 and the one we got that wrapped everything up nicely even though there were more stories to be told
Arrow's final season didn't really have that much setup for the spinoff, especially in the episodes you mention, Ep. 5 focused on Oliver's relationship with his children, Ep. 7 had Mia dealing with Oliver's imminent death, but apart from that, the future versions didn't really receive a plotline till the backdoor pilot again.
Its interesting how percentage wise both Superman and Lois and Supergirl both likely didnt have the protagonist in episodes as much yet one was so good. Also Stargirl is probably as consistent a good show as superman and lois.
I still believe that The Flash season 9 was pretty good, but I think Barry's story ended after He went back in time to save himself from Reverse-Flash.
So you enjoyed the garbage red death arc, the lame filler episodes, and seeing the best villains on the show disrespected at the end? Season 9 is easily the second worst season in the show. I don’t care if it’s “just your opinion” you have absolute zero taste whatsoever. CW Flash fans are so delusional, they swear this show is so good and yet more than half the show is garbage
For me my ranking would be (I haven’t seen Superman and Lois yet) Stargirl Season 3 Arrow Season 8 Black Lightning Season 4 Batwoman Season 3 Legends of Tomorrow Season 7 The Flash Season 9 Supergirl Season 6
The last 5 or 6 episodes of season 3 of Stargirl are AMAZING and the best DCTV on the CW minus the Flash Season 1. If you have seen Stargirl, it starts getting good when X person says "at least you'll die together!"
I would say this is my ranking 1. Superman & Lois 2. The Flash 3. Stargirl 4. Arrow 5. Supergirl 6. Batwoman 7. DC's Legend of Tomorrow 8. Black Lightning 10. Naomi 11. Gotham Knights
My rankings for the final seasons of DCTV: 1. Superman and Lois 2. StarGirl 3. Arrow 4. The Flash 5. Legends of Tomorrow 6. Batwoman 7. Supergirl 8. Black Lightning 9. Naomi 10. Gotham Knights 11. Smallville
I have no issues with this list. I have to say though... Black Lightning, Supergirl and The Flash had incredibly awful last seasons. Black Lightning season 4 didn't even feel like it followed on from the stellar Season 3. From the 1st episode it was just unsatisfying. Supergirl's last season is probably the first season of that show I didn't watch in entirety. After the phantom zone arc I just couldn't make it through the rest. Flash season 9 was inexcusably bad. I only finished it out of respect for what the show used to be, but it was painful to watch. And it's a shame because all three of those show had their stellar moments but just couldn't stick the landing.
@ that’s a horrible way to end it but No, I just couldn’t fully get onboard with the silly nature of the show, I really liked seasons 2,3 & most of 4 but after that as it continued to get more & more ludicrous in its silly nature of the show, I really was just watching it out of some form of loyalty to the Arrowverse.
TBH I like S1 of Stargirl more just because I didn't know anything about the characters and everything and I was surprised with each episode on how cool everything was, and in S2 and S3 I sort of expected it a bit so it was still really good but not as good as S1 just because of that. Eclipso was dope as f*ck tho
If they actually tried to make a Flash tv show with The Flash, it would have been so much better, but instead they had to make it The Flash and his friends..., since the show ended, I just take the first 3 seasons as canon, the rest are just another timeline lmao. And the worst thing is that they knew how to do it; like from S6 to S9 the best episodes (personally) are the ones centered around, guess who?, The Flash or Barry Allen himself, what a shock!, and for me some of them are perhaps among the best episodes of the entire series, they knew how to do it, they just didn't want to, and that's pretty sad... :(
damnn did not expect your arrow opinions icl - honestly i thought arrow had a near perfect final season and probably the only dud was the actual spinoff backdoor pilot! the deathstroke episode was arguably mid too but apart from that, it was pretty good - i know you said it drops off after 8x3 but 8x6 (time loop) was Incredible
Stargirl was so good man I wish it came back but let's just have faith it can still happen in a few years somehow
Stargirl really ended too soon :(
One thing to note about Stargirl’s final season. They were given a heads up while they were filming the last few episodes of the show that there was a good chance that the show wouldn’t continue after season 3, so they wrote and shot two ending for the season, one that would set up what would’ve been season 4 and the one we got that wrapped everything up nicely even though there were more stories to be told
You know they must've been bad if batwoman is that high
I agree but they deserve thier spot
Tbf Batwoman's last season is the best one out of the three. It's decent enough, I guess.
Arrow Final Season First Half was so good
If they didnt try to set up the Spinoff it would be #1
Arrow's final season didn't really have that much setup for the spinoff, especially in the episodes you mention, Ep. 5 focused on Oliver's relationship with his children, Ep. 7 had Mia dealing with Oliver's imminent death, but apart from that, the future versions didn't really receive a plotline till the backdoor pilot again.
Superman and Lois and Stargirl final seasons were on point. They ended well with great final seasons. Not dragged out and over done and blotted.
Its interesting how percentage wise both Superman and Lois and Supergirl both likely didnt have the protagonist in episodes as much yet one was so good.
Also Stargirl is probably as consistent a good show as superman and lois.
Arrowverse Final Season Big Bads Ranked
1. Lex Luthor (Superman & Lois)
2. Ultra-Humanite
3. Eddie Thawne/Malcolm Gilmore/Cobalt Blue
4. Poison Ivy
5. Jordan Mahkent/Icicle
6. Lex Luthor (Supergirl)
7. Anti-Monitor
8. Brother Blood (Titans)
9. Negative Speed Force
10. Isabel Feathers/Lord Immortus
11. Mother Mayhem
12. Tobias Whale
13. Marquis Jet
14. Nyxlygsptlnz
15. E-4125 Ryan Wilder/Red Death
16. Evil Gideon
17. John Diggle, Jr.
Arrowverse Final Seasons Ranked
1. Superman & Lois S4
2. Arrow S8
3. Stargirl S3: "Frenemies"
4. Doom Patrol S4
5. The Flash S9B: "A New World"
6. Batwoman S3
7. Titans S4
8. Supergirl S6
9. Black Lightning S4
10. The Flash S9A: "Rogue War"
11. Legends of Tomorrow S7
I still believe that The Flash season 9 was pretty good, but I think Barry's story ended after He went back in time to save himself from Reverse-Flash.
The flash wasn’t even in 70% of the season😭😭😭
@ElectricGaming_97 cuz Grant was friggin tired and was a father
@@ElectricGaming_97it became the cecil show sadly
So you enjoyed the garbage red death arc, the lame filler episodes, and seeing the best villains on the show disrespected at the end? Season 9 is easily the second worst season in the show. I don’t care if it’s “just your opinion” you have absolute zero taste whatsoever.
CW Flash fans are so delusional, they swear this show is so good and yet more than half the show is garbage
For me my ranking would be (I haven’t seen Superman and Lois yet)
Stargirl Season 3
Arrow Season 8
Black Lightning Season 4
Batwoman Season 3
Legends of Tomorrow Season 7
The Flash Season 9
Supergirl Season 6
1. Stargirl
2. Superman and Louis
3. Arrow
The last 5 or 6 episodes of season 3 of Stargirl are AMAZING and the best DCTV on the CW minus the Flash Season 1. If you have seen Stargirl, it starts getting good when X person says "at least you'll die together!"
1. Superman and Lois
2. Arrow
3. Stargirl
4. Batwoman
5. Supergirl
6. Legends
7. Black lightning
8. Flash
I would say this is my ranking
1. Superman & Lois
2. The Flash
3. Stargirl
4. Arrow
5. Supergirl
6. Batwoman
7. DC's Legend of Tomorrow
8. Black Lightning
10. Naomi
11. Gotham Knights
Stargirl was soooo good 😢 I was so pissed when it got canned
My rankings for the final seasons of DCTV:
1. Superman and Lois
2. StarGirl
3. Arrow
4. The Flash
5. Legends of Tomorrow
6. Batwoman
7. Supergirl
8. Black Lightning
9. Naomi
10. Gotham Knights
11. Smallville
Solid list! Mine is similar, I’d put Arrow’s final season at #1 but I haven’t finished Superman yet.
And I’d probably swap Legends and Batwoman
The Flash's final season had 2 good episodes😭
I have no issues with this list. I have to say though... Black Lightning, Supergirl and The Flash had incredibly awful last seasons.
Black Lightning season 4 didn't even feel like it followed on from the stellar Season 3. From the 1st episode it was just unsatisfying.
Supergirl's last season is probably the first season of that show I didn't watch in entirety. After the phantom zone arc I just couldn't make it through the rest.
Flash season 9 was inexcusably bad. I only finished it out of respect for what the show used to be, but it was painful to watch.
And it's a shame because all three of those show had their stellar moments but just couldn't stick the landing.
1. Superman & Lois -10
2. Arrow - 9.0
3. Stargirl -8.0
4. Batwoman - 7.0
5. Supergirl - 6.5
6. The Flash - 4.0
7. Black lightning - 4.0
8 Legends - 2.0
Guessing cliffhanger for Legends is your problem?
@ that’s a horrible way to end it but No, I just couldn’t fully get onboard with the silly nature of the show, I really liked seasons 2,3 & most of 4 but after that as it continued to get more & more ludicrous in its silly nature of the show, I really was just watching it out of some form of loyalty to the Arrowverse.
@ honestly same I don’t think I even payed attention to the show for the last 3 seasons.
@@bendyboy7179 same I watched but it was like going through the motions
Crazy how bad the flash show ended up becoming despite all of the talent
1. Superman and Lois
2. The Flash
3. Super girl
4. Arrow
TBH I like S1 of Stargirl more just because I didn't know anything about the characters and everything and I was surprised with each episode on how cool everything was, and in S2 and S3 I sort of expected it a bit so it was still really good but not as good as S1 just because of that. Eclipso was dope as f*ck tho
If they actually tried to make a Flash tv show with The Flash, it would have been so much better, but instead they had to make it The Flash and his friends..., since the show ended, I just take the first 3 seasons as canon, the rest are just another timeline lmao. And the worst thing is that they knew how to do it; like from S6 to S9 the best episodes (personally) are the ones centered around, guess who?, The Flash or Barry Allen himself, what a shock!, and for me some of them are perhaps among the best episodes of the entire series, they knew how to do it, they just didn't want to, and that's pretty sad... :(
Legends last season was solid! It just clearly wasn’t meant to be the last season
damnn did not expect your arrow opinions icl - honestly i thought arrow had a near perfect final season and probably the only dud was the actual spinoff backdoor pilot! the deathstroke episode was arguably mid too but apart from that, it was pretty good - i know you said it drops off after 8x3 but 8x6 (time loop) was Incredible