Great tips. Todd Graves is Moe Norman's student. I've started one plane swing because of back surgeries and it has done wonders. Now I just got to get the feel back for shots. I love this game because it is a mind and body game . Thanks for the great video
I switched to single plane Moe Norman swing 10 years ago and it not only helped my back issues but it improved my handicap by 10 strokes… as Tiger Woods said there were only 2 golfers that owned their swing…Ben Hogan & Moe Norman… Moe’s swing was mechanically perfect & makes so much sense … that’s why he was known as Pipeline Moe… cheers mate
I have been watching Mo videos for about 14/15 months reduced my handycap by 2 this year playing best golf of my life planning to further reduce handycap by 4 next year that's how confident I am, so happy I found Mo
Moe was once asked how he plays a low shot out of the trees, he replied "don't know, i am never in them". As for the golf swing you need to do works for you, figure it out. Look at Jim Furyk, nobody says swing like him, yet he is the only golfer that has ever shot a 58 on the PGA tour. Love the videos
The Moe Norman swing tips are great....and if you're getting older... or if you have bad knees...his swing will help you a great deal. I had to go to a swing like Moe Norman's Liam when I was in my twenties. My left leg was severely injured playing American Football in college. My doctor's told me that playing golf would be very difficult because of my 6 knee operations. Well...I taught myself this same type of swing...and it has worked for me for 40 years...and in my 30's and 40's I carried a 4 handicap.
Liam great video as always I watch golf mates ever day and love it so much so that I had to go from Birmingham to play Nefyn all down to you fantastic. But the other thing that this video has hit the right spot. Moe Norman I spent the lockdown practicing the single plane swing from Todd Graves and the Graves academy. I have been a 22 handicap for over 20 years. Now at the age of 62 I’m of 15 and still going in the right direction. So 22 handicap November 15 by May. Had to work in the net at home but it speaks for itself and now you have mentioned it brilliant..
Moe Norman, fantastic golfer, very well known in Canada even to this day. He died about 2003 and never got the worldwide recognition he deserved thanks to the American press and also because he didn’t come the Open. But please bear in mind he hit about 500 balls a day, every day. He was a very quick player as well as a quick practiser as illustrated by the video clip you included in your video. Todd Graves is known as little Moe and his channel is well worth watching. I would also recommend Shawn Clement, Wisdom in Golf, who also speaks highly of Moe and has personally met him. Tips for us lesser mortals is a good idea and also tips from your resident pro. Keep them coming in between matches with your mates, the Dick and OMP etc. Looking forward to any videos featuring Josh, club fitting and the America trip. Cheers Liam. Ps. Sorry for the length of this comment.
Great video on some real tips that are more than trying to swing faster to hit it farther. I read once that 80% power gives 100% distance and that 100% power gives 80% distance. Mo's technique is about consistent swing pattern that delivers shot after shot. I have seen a number of Mo's videos as well as Todd Graves' stuff (a staunch advocate of the single plane swing). The other aids - the mat (great instant feedback) and the water bottle are excellent. The best thing is what you said initially, "find your own swing"....
Liam, great to see you making improvement. Thanks for the tips. In my case "over the top" is always caused by starting the downswing with the upper body instead of the lower. Here is what works best for me: Turn the left shoulder DOWN and parallel to the target line to the top of the backswing; then on the downswing, rotate the hips open while the left shoulder rotates up and parallel to the target line. There are two important feels to identify: 1) the shoulders rotate VERTICALLY and the hips rotate HORIZONTALLY, 2) through impact, you feel a strong stretch all the way up the left side of the back as the left side arches and the right side passes under it. Do it slowly at first and be sure to start the lower body moving first and keep the hips turning through to the finish. There is a tendency to let the right shoulder go out and around instead of down and under. If you don't feel that stretch in the left side, that indicates something wrong. This is my way. Not to be confused with Jack Nicklaus "Golf My Way" :)
I'm a totally beginner, but your videos and your charming explainations help me to become better and to love this sport more and more. Thanks for that!!! 💪👍
After playing golf badly for approx 20 years off and on, at the now age of 70 , I’ve started practicing moe Norman’s method. I can now hit all irons inc 2 , dead straight almost every time. Driver straighter and further than ever. My only real error is trying to hit Even further, good rhythm equals great shots. So wish RUclips and moe was available 20 years ago.
Hello Liam! Love your channel and your great sense of humor.I have been watching about 6 months now and being from the states I am finally able to understand your British accent. I just marvel at OMP. What a great golfer. Let me mention that I have been using Moe Norman's single plane swing since early summer. I am 68 and have knocked 15 strokes off my game and play in mid 80's. I follow Todd Graves who carries on the Moe method. With the single plane you hit the ball straight every time I am not kidding. If everyone adopted the single plane way of golf they would have to close all the golf schools and stop selling golf magazines. It really is quite simple. Who would have thought I would be playing my best golf at this age. Keep up the good work!
watch a lot on Moe but I would warn golf mates..... Moe`s technique is a complete change, its not a fix but a completely different view on golf but his principles are solid. if you are new or are struggling to hit a ball then go for it as its not for everyone. I started playing golf with a one plain swing but struggled with standard cubs, I needed my clubs to be 5 degree flat to achieve what he did (something they don't tell you on the vids) great vid Liam and Moe does not get the recognition he deserves in golf so fair play. great vid mate
Great Tips, The one with the box my pro does that with me, PMA is my motto, positive mental attitude, going out everytime saying you are going to play well helps. all about believing in yourself.
I was able to see Moe Norman practice several times during the winter months in Titusville Florida at the Royal Oaks CC. On one occasion I and several others witness him hit a medium bucket of golf balls with his 7 iron to a 150 yard flag where the entire bucket of balls were within 15 feet of the flag and the majority of them within 5 feet. He was uncanny that day as he was on most days. One of the greatest ball strikers of all time. It's not a swing for everyone but it can help those who really want to work hard and learn his techniques.
Liam, Great video. Todd Graves is the guy you're trying to think of. He's been called the "Young Moe Norman". He studied under Moe for some years and is the only person that Moe let inside his world of golf. He keeps the spirit of Moe alive. As for the mat, picked one up a few weeks ago and it identified and fixed my swing in one weekend.
From a proud Canadian. Tiger Woods told Golf Digest's Jaime Diaz that "Only two players have ever truly owned their swings: Moe Norman and Ben Hogan. I want to own mine." It was unfortunate that Moe suffered from mental health issues or everyone would have known his name. I am teaching my two teenage boys the game. I have them watch OMP. On the course I keep reminding them what would he do. They are playing better and having fun. Thanks Liam.
Everything that you have described in this video is me all over. Coming over the top with my irons as most of my divots are facing left after I have taken a shot, and slicing the ball off the tee. I must put into practise what you have described within this vlog over the winter months, ready hopefully to break that elusive 90 in the spring.
Been a big fan of Moe's for years, but some warnings. You cannot play good golf playing like Moe using just a bit of his swing, grip etc. You have to use it all. Also, what Moe says/thinks he does isn't always what he does e.g he says he doesn't turn his hips. Yes, he does. Another fab clip Liam, thanks mate.
Moe Norman has helped me immensely! My greatest takeaway from him was to not over rotate the arms. When I had my right hand stay square to the swing arc, my slice became a draw. I can also hit it straight now when I want to but my default shot is a little draw. Go Moe!
Wide take away is one of the secrets to not going over the top ,it really is hard to go over the top with a wide take away ,had that drummed in to me a few years ago .You will also gain more swing speed and power as a bi product of it .
Another great video Liam. Being Canadian, I watched Moe Norman when I was younger before I took up golf. I’ve used the club box on the range and it helped a lot. The salesman at the golf store thought I was crazy asking for an empty box until I explained the drill
Found talking through the swing helps well with over the top and tempo - followed Ron del Barrio ( beautiful swing) "thumbs up [slow],,,,drop and turn [accelerating]" or "thumbs up......hands under." Talking through the swung takes tension out.
Glad it’s working Liam - respect to Moe one of the worlds best strikers of a ball. One thing I’ve always noticed with you - you’re saying ‘hands low’ at address but you always raise them just before takeaway - encourages over the top move. Get weight onto right heel and it’ll flatten the transition. Great work
Great tips Liam! And you're 100% right...if it works for you. Everyone has to find what works for them and then master those swings. After 33 seasons, my game is so simple and repeatable. But it took a LONG time and lots of practice to get here. Cheers mate!
This golf game is a sport that you will learn something new all the time.....its you against the golfball and the course...gotta love it....from across the big pond....👍
Great video and tips. Just echoing Liams thoughts about Moe Norman. Very simple swing to learn and improve with. For me tyke most important thing about the single plane swing was that my back stopped hurting after playing. Very easy on the back. Watch all the videos from Graves golf academy and it might be something you want to try.
Thanks Liam. The video helped me a lot. I started playing after many years not, and I completely changed how I swing. I bought Ben Hogan’s 5 lessons book- best 7 dollars I ever spent! A lot of what was in Hogan’s book I saw in your tips and lessons- I highly recommend getting the book. Take care.
Great tips. Another one I like is to spray the club face with athletes foot spray. It leaves a residue that the ball will put a mark in, and you can see what part of the club is hitting the ball.
Nice video. I do have too much in my head when striking the ball. Simplifying the swing, and going back to what worked in past sometimes helps us get out of the rut. thanks
Tried Dave's trick with the bottle. Didn't have any water so used a bottle of beer. Still came over the top and hit my head with the bottle. Sat in casualty now with concussion and waiting to be stitched up..........................thanks mate!!!! LOL
It's fun when it starts to come together isn't it? Can see that at the end when you hit your two shots into the green. I can sense your excitement in how it's working well for you. Love it!
Liam, at @4:20 in this video you can see your right knee is straight as a board; locked out. The only way back to the ball is your upper body coming over the top. Now go watch Mo Norman. Mo's right knee never straightens, it always has flex and allows his lower body to work through the swing. Watch every tour pro; right knee stays flexed, allowing them to bring the club back into the ball on-plane. Good luck.
Love watching moe norman. In my opinion he was the best golfer to ever play the game. 1 ball out of bounds EVER in a tournament!!! Had the same golf tee for 7 years.
Liam, I really felt for you when you were struggling but I didn’t offer advice cause sometimes (usually a lot of times) people have to figure it out by watching what they think will help them and not what others may say will help them! I am happy for you golfmate! I am a consistent watcher of Todd Graves and anything to do with Moe Norman.
Tod Graves is considered “little moe!” If you watch his videos and slowly change your swing to a one plane swing it will save your back and give you a straighter easier ball flight!
Thanks for the tips -- saw them on earlier videos. I had heard of Moe Norman years ago. One of the best ball strikers ever. I remember Tiger Woods commented that the two golfers who actually "owned" their swings were Ben Hogan and Moe Norman.
Crazy I just stumbled upon Moe Norman last week and you make a video about it today. There is something to that single plain swing. Tried it out this past weekend and definitely made better consistent contact with all clubs.
Moe Norman was the King! Even Tiger said he was one of the best ball strikers to play the game. Moe lived 20 minutes from me. Quick Moe Norman story. Near the end of his life he was in the hospital and the nurse asked him if he knew where he was? He said the 5th green. She thought he was crazy. Turns out the hospital was built on an old golf course and he was right.
Love Golf Mates. Always makes my day, wherever video. Would prefer you to spend a bit more time with the missus, now she is nearly due. Us Golf Mate's are willing to wait for content because you are good (Entertaining and informative) 3 vids a week, chicken and Rice :)
Commented before watching the vid as you are so good. 3 months ago, when I learnt you take turf after the ball. This set up was the way I tried to explain hitting ground after the ball to the Scouse! It's what broke my 80....once :) I play a par 63
Thank you thank you thank you. I might just get back into the game now. Have always been hot and cold with my golf shots which has lead me to give up on a few occasions over the last 30 years. I might just turn that corner again John
A tip I got was to wear a watch on your right hand with the face parallel to your palm up. Then on the downswing try to keep the watch face pointing to the sky as long as possible. It may feel like your club face is wide open,but as you approach the ball, the club face will naturally square. This will give you the shallowing of the club and increase club head speed because of the lever leverage you get because the of the club head is further from your hands when swinging in a circular arc. This is similar to a water skier swinging right or left of the tow boat. And increasing the velocity faster than the tow boat.
Wow that's a lot to think about during your swing. Give Shawn Clement a look on RUclips. Was not a lightbulb moment more like an arc light moment for me!!!
Great vlog again Liam, I've watched Mo Norman a lot over the years, he still remains inspirational in my opinion. Your golf Vlogs that chronicle the good, the bad and the ugly are also inspirational, golf is ultimately about fun and that's what you OMP the Dick, your Dad on earth, EBay, Windows, Chubby, Scraggy etc. bring to golf along with passion for the game ... you should be proud of what your giving to the grass roots golfing community ... oh and by the way your still lifting your hands 😂😂
You brought up a good point about swing styles. I remember the ugly, self-taught swing of Chi Chi Rodriguez, a PGA star of years ago. Even Arnold Palmer's swing was unorthodox, but effective. I've ordered the swing mat.
Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods when asked have always said that Mo Norman was the best ball striker that ever lived. Mo had a single plane swing. His hands at address were in the same position that they were at impact.he also never put his club directly behind the ball. This helped with shoulder turn. I started positioning my Driver approximately 8 inches behind the ball at address a few months ago. My Driving has improved dramatically as I feel that I’m swinging smoother. Try it golfmates. It’s worth a try.
For some reason I thought the mat was going to be about your head. I like all the tips Liam but the best golf instructor I have come across is unquestionably Danny Maude. I won 3 medals this year following his teachings, simply top class
A really good bit if advice I got which has improved my scores (not necessarily my game) was in regards to club selection. Say for example you look at your distance device and you have say 120yds - 130yds - 140yds Front - Middle - Back of the green What I used to do was base my club selection on where the pin was. So in this scenario it'd be 9I to the front 8I middle, 7I back. The advice I got was to select a club that you think you could clear the green with by a yard or two. If someone offered you say £1,000 to just clear the green and no more what club would you hit. In my case this would be a 7I. If I hit a good one it'll usually carry about 140yds. But how often do you hit a "good one" ? For me maybe about 10% of the time. Another 10% of the time it's a total duffer but about 80% of the time it's an ok shot but "Just didn't quite get hold of it" etc... and it maybe goes 125-135 sort of range. So in the above scenario If I hit a 7 iron. Then 10% of the time I'll be just off the back of the green, I'll duff it 10% of the time but 80% of the time I'll be on the green somewhere. On the flip side if the pin is 5 yards on the green and I decide to play to the pin which is 125yds away, then I'm going to be just short of the green 80% of the time, duff it 10% of the time and be on the green 10% of the time. Understanding the logic behind this has really helped me get some lower scores without me actually improving as a ball striker or being able to hit it any further.
Liam, thanks for the tips bud. I like the water bottle drill especially. Seems to go well inline with Tourstriker Plane Mate craze, to shallow out the downswing. Really helping me to visualize that move. Liked and subcribed!
Moe Norman is class. And what a ball striker. Faldo said he was the greatest ball striker ever. Shame he couldn't putt for his life. He nearly always 3 putted. Spent all his time hitting irons and not practising putter that's why I think. Great vid as always. Concentration is key I think. Easy to get lost in the moment. CHICKEN AND RICE #GOLFMATES
Magic Liam. Free Golf lessons, i love it and i am sure it will help me. By the way. My wife nearly killed me after you demoed the practice mat. Just because i cut a panel out of her velvet dance dress to make one :-) 77, West Lancs. (I know it was 76, but i said 77) :-)
Very enjoyable and informative video that I believe will also help me, though I'm not a slicer. Been watchin Moe and Rich (ha ha ha), I mean, Todd Graves videos for years. Moe was a character and a sharpshooter who would've won many championships had it not been for the prudes in the professional golf world. He was a class act by himself.
I just found one of these matts in Japan, will order one for Xmas, see if I can totally lose my slice next year. Fact is though with my mini driver and shorter 3 wood shaft I have been knocking them straight down the fairway lately, just loving this cheap silly old driver, and man it hits long with just an easy swing. cheers Liam from Japan
Great video Liam. I very much enjoy Daves tips and glad to see its offering some help to your own game. You will be off 2 or 3 next season. Look forward to watching your progress...
Nice one liam I'm in October mode, course is waterlogged bunkers impossible to work with and my swing is shite. Now this time last year the same and almost packed this infuriating game in but became a golf mate and 80,90, even a 100 no problem move on no body has died. Mo Norman had he not had what may have been an autistic issue would have made a big impact in the US but could not do the crowds. However once was watched hitting driver 270 yards hitting 100 balls with a dispersion in SINGLE FIGURES!!! TOUR PROS
Great tips. I purchased a 3-Pack of the mat, and should make some practice time to start using it. Since I've been prescribed meds for high blood pressure and haven't had a decent night's sleep in a month, I'm playing more like Moe HOWARD, porcupine!!! 😂
Another great video liam, I have been struggling with the over the top swing for a while now . Will be trying the bottle aid and the mat. Many thanks keep the videos coming , life is life 👍
G'day Liam Got onto Moe Norman videos a while back Amazing how he can hit a golf ball straight every time Great video When the time is right come Australia I know you'd have a great time on our golf courses Roberto
That's a great video Liam.I myself do tend to swing over the top so I will definitely be trying the water bottle and the driver drills.Keep up the good work.👍🏌️♂️
Excellent video, concentration is where I need to improve my game on the course , I am working on a pre shot routine which I will do every shot I take its not long but it serves to wake up my concentration
Graves stuff is solid and some of his recent videos have been fantastic. I went single plane last couple years and even misses are going straight or at worst pulled left. Ball position is still a battle but then it always was. Dunno about Mo/single plane for you at the moment Liam your game is in a good place to my eyes. Looking over some of the Graves stuff tho I'd recommend. Cheers!
Another interesting Vlog i have also been watching Moe Norman/Todd Graves who worked with him and his swing is very different but you can use some of his ideas. I'm out of action at mo due to a hand operation but have been watching lots of other RUclips golf stuff and came across Golf Sidekick as well. Keep up the content and theses tips are actually really very good. Ps At West Lancs as well as your iron play you also putted extremely well!
Great tips Liam. I think I'll be trying the bottle. Have lost so much confidence in my swing I've lost at least 20 yards. If you're vid gets my confidence back then happy days. 🐔 And 🍚
ive watched lots of videos of him and he was one character , didn't fit in on the pga tour so went back to Canada, all the greats said he was the best ball-striker that ever lived, even Tiger used to watch him hit balls on the range !
Great video...Moe was amazing, even the way he dressed....sad no one really paid attention to him. The pros knew who he was and the game he had. I would have loved to have seen a match between both of them in the day...I would have put my money on Moe!!
I have a good Golf tip for Golfmates. If you are having a good start to your Golf Round. Put your score down, but don't add it up and don't think about it in your head. Just play the round and add up after Round is over.
Tiger Woods is quoted in Golf Digest "Only two players have ever truly owned their swings: Moe Norman and Ben Hogan." When asked what he would like to achieve in golf, Tiger stated he wanted to own his swing, like Moe and Hogan. There's a great book on Moe, "Moe & Me: Encounters with Moe Norman, Golf's Mysterious Genius", by Lorne Rubenstein.
Hey Liam, I'm on a mission to break 90, 80. I've only just started playing again never was very good. But I'm going to do it my way, understand what needs to happen and how I can consitently make it happen. Thanks for the video the mat certainly looks like a good tool for me to help in my game.
Shawn Clement is the man. See him on RUclips. Uno when ppl get something and a light bulb goes on? He was like an Arc light going off in my head. It's so simple when he explains it. Hope it works for you.
Great tips. Todd Graves is Moe Norman's student. I've started one plane swing because of back surgeries and it has done wonders. Now I just got to get the feel back for shots. I love this game because it is a mind and body game . Thanks for the great video
I switched to single plane Moe Norman swing 10 years ago and it not only helped my back issues but it improved my handicap by 10 strokes… as Tiger Woods said there were only 2 golfers that owned their swing…Ben Hogan & Moe Norman… Moe’s swing was mechanically perfect & makes so much sense … that’s why he was known as Pipeline Moe… cheers mate
Thanks for all the fun Liam. Time to take a nice vacation. Looking forward to seeing you back with a full mop top and well rested.
I have been watching Mo videos for about 14/15 months reduced my handycap by 2 this year playing best golf of my life planning to further reduce handycap by 4 next year that's how confident I am, so happy I found Mo
Moe was once asked how he plays a low shot out of the trees, he replied "don't know, i am never in them". As for the golf swing you need to do works for you, figure it out. Look at Jim Furyk, nobody says swing like him, yet he is the only golfer that has ever shot a 58 on the PGA tour. Love the videos
The Moe Norman swing tips are great....and if you're getting older... or if you have bad knees...his swing will help you a great deal. I had to go to a swing like Moe Norman's Liam when I was in my twenties. My left leg was severely injured playing American Football in college. My doctor's told me that playing golf would be very difficult because of my 6 knee operations. Well...I taught myself this same type of swing...and it has worked for me for 40 years...and in my 30's and 40's I carried a 4 handicap.
Liam great video as always I watch golf mates ever day and love it so much so that I had to go from Birmingham to play Nefyn all down to you fantastic. But the other thing that this video has hit the right spot. Moe Norman I spent the lockdown practicing the single plane swing from Todd Graves and the Graves academy. I have been a 22 handicap for over 20 years. Now at the age of 62 I’m of 15 and still going in the right direction. So 22 handicap November 15 by May. Had to work in the net at home but it speaks for itself and now you have mentioned it brilliant..
Well done you 👏🏼👏🏼
Moe Norman, fantastic golfer, very well known in Canada even to this day. He died about 2003 and never got the worldwide recognition he deserved thanks to the American press and also because he didn’t come the Open. But please bear in mind he hit about 500 balls a day, every day. He was a very quick player as well as a quick practiser as illustrated by the video clip you included in your video. Todd Graves is known as little Moe and his channel is well worth watching. I would also recommend Shawn Clement, Wisdom in Golf, who also speaks highly of Moe and has personally met him. Tips for us lesser mortals is a good idea and also tips from your resident pro. Keep them coming in between matches with your mates, the Dick and OMP etc. Looking forward to any videos featuring Josh, club fitting and the America trip. Cheers Liam.
Ps. Sorry for the length of this comment.
Great video on some real tips that are more than trying to swing faster to hit it farther. I read once that 80% power gives 100% distance and that 100% power gives 80% distance. Mo's technique is about consistent swing pattern that delivers shot after shot. I have seen a number of Mo's videos as well as Todd Graves' stuff (a staunch advocate of the single plane swing). The other aids - the mat (great instant feedback) and the water bottle are excellent. The best thing is what you said initially, "find your own swing"....
Liam, great to see you making improvement. Thanks for the tips.
In my case "over the top" is always caused by starting the downswing with the upper body instead of the lower. Here is what works best for me: Turn the left shoulder DOWN and parallel to the target line to the top of the backswing; then on the downswing, rotate the hips open while the left shoulder rotates up and parallel to the target line.
There are two important feels to identify: 1) the shoulders rotate VERTICALLY and the hips rotate HORIZONTALLY, 2) through impact, you feel a strong stretch all the way up the left side of the back as the left side arches and the right side passes under it. Do it slowly at first and be sure to start the lower body moving first and keep the hips turning through to the finish. There is a tendency to let the right shoulder go out and around instead of down and under. If you don't feel that stretch in the left side, that indicates something wrong.
This is my way. Not to be confused with Jack Nicklaus "Golf My Way" :)
I'm a totally beginner, but your videos and your charming explainations help me to become better and to love this sport more and more. Thanks for that!!! 💪👍
After playing golf badly for approx 20 years off and on, at the now age of 70 , I’ve started practicing moe Norman’s method.
I can now hit all irons inc 2 , dead straight almost every time. Driver straighter and further than ever. My only real error is trying to hit
Even further, good rhythm equals great shots. So wish RUclips and moe was available 20 years ago.
Hello Liam! Love your channel and your great sense of humor.I have been watching about 6 months now and being from the states I am finally able to understand your British accent. I just marvel at OMP. What a great golfer. Let me mention that I have been using Moe Norman's single plane swing since early summer. I am 68 and have knocked 15 strokes off my game and play in mid 80's. I follow Todd Graves who carries on the Moe method. With the single plane you hit the ball straight every time I am not kidding. If everyone adopted the single plane way of golf they would have to close all the golf schools and stop selling golf magazines. It really is quite simple. Who would have thought I would be playing my best golf at this age. Keep up the good work!
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watch a lot on Moe but I would warn golf mates..... Moe`s technique is a complete change, its not a fix but a completely different view on golf but his principles are solid. if you are new or are struggling to hit a ball then go for it as its not for everyone. I started playing golf with a one plain swing but struggled with standard cubs, I needed my clubs to be 5 degree flat to achieve what he did (something they don't tell you on the vids) great vid Liam and Moe does not get the recognition he deserves in golf so fair play. great vid mate
Great Tips, The one with the box my pro does that with me, PMA is my motto, positive mental attitude, going out everytime saying you are going to play well helps. all about believing in yourself.
I was able to see Moe Norman practice several times during the winter months in Titusville Florida at the Royal Oaks CC. On one occasion I and several others witness him hit a medium bucket of golf balls with his 7 iron to a 150 yard flag where the entire bucket of balls were within 15 feet of the flag and the majority of them within 5 feet. He was uncanny that day as he was on most days. One of the greatest ball strikers of all time. It's not a swing for everyone but it can help those who really want to work hard and learn his techniques.
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Moe Norman hitting many 70 yard wedge shots - unedited video
At last someone who understands what All amateur golfers go through.thank you Liam.
Worth watching Liam , doesn't matter how old you are you can always learn new tricks.
You are so sincere. I’m positive you and your channel will always succeed. Good luck.
Liam,
Great video. Todd Graves is the guy you're trying to think of. He's been called the "Young Moe Norman". He studied under Moe for some years and is the only person that Moe let inside his world of golf. He keeps the spirit of Moe alive. As for the mat, picked one up a few weeks ago and it identified and fixed my swing in one weekend.
From a proud Canadian. Tiger Woods told Golf Digest's Jaime Diaz that "Only two players have ever truly owned their swings: Moe Norman and Ben Hogan. I want to own mine." It was unfortunate that Moe suffered from mental health issues or everyone would have known his name.
I am teaching my two teenage boys the game. I have them watch OMP. On the course I keep reminding them what would he do. They are playing better and having fun. Thanks Liam.
Everything that you have described in this video is me all over. Coming over the top with my irons as most of my divots are facing left after I have taken a shot, and slicing the ball off the tee. I must put into practise what you have described within this vlog over the winter months, ready hopefully to break that elusive 90 in the spring.
@@GolfMates Cheers Liam
Been a big fan of Moe's for years, but some warnings. You cannot play good golf playing like Moe using just a bit of his swing, grip etc. You have to use it all. Also, what Moe says/thinks he does isn't always what he does e.g he says he doesn't turn his hips. Yes, he does. Another fab clip Liam, thanks mate.
have heard others at the courses talking about MOE NORMAN , now I know .. most interesting , thank you for the link.
Moe Norman has helped me immensely! My greatest takeaway from him was to not over rotate the arms. When I had my right hand stay square to the swing arc, my slice became a draw. I can also hit it straight now when I want to but my default shot is a little draw. Go Moe!
To much nonsense to think about. Shawn Clement is The Man
My favourite golf instruction videos are the mo Norman ones the best thing I got out it is to have a WIDE take away this helped my swing massively
Wide take away is one of the secrets to not going over the top ,it really is hard to go over the top with a wide take away ,had that drummed in to me a few years ago .You will also gain more swing speed and power as a bi product of it .
Another great video Liam. Being Canadian, I watched Moe Norman when I was younger before I took up golf. I’ve used the club box on the range and it helped a lot. The salesman at the golf store thought I was crazy asking for an empty box until I explained the drill
Found talking through the swing helps well with over the top and tempo - followed Ron del Barrio ( beautiful swing) "thumbs up [slow],,,,drop and turn [accelerating]" or "thumbs up......hands under." Talking through the swung takes tension out.
Glad it’s working Liam - respect to Moe one of the worlds best strikers of a ball. One thing I’ve always noticed with you - you’re saying ‘hands low’ at address but you always raise them just before takeaway - encourages over the top move. Get weight onto right heel and it’ll flatten the transition. Great work
Good spot, Stephen. Look out for that, Liam!
I read the moe Norman story about 15 years ago. Great life story and what a golfer 👏🏻👏🏻. I was glad to have read it.
Great tips Liam! And you're 100% right...if it works for you. Everyone has to find what works for them and then master those swings. After 33 seasons, my game is so simple and repeatable. But it took a LONG time and lots of practice to get here. Cheers mate!
This golf game is a sport that you will learn something new all the time.....its you against the golfball and the course...gotta love it....from across the big pond....👍
Great video and tips. Just echoing Liams thoughts about Moe Norman. Very simple swing to learn and improve with. For me tyke most important thing about the single plane swing was that my back stopped hurting after playing. Very easy on the back. Watch all the videos from Graves golf academy and it might be something you want to try.
Thanks Liam. The video helped me a lot. I started playing after many years not, and I completely changed how I swing. I bought Ben Hogan’s 5 lessons book- best 7 dollars I ever spent! A lot of what was in Hogan’s book I saw in your tips and lessons- I highly recommend getting the book. Take care.
Brilliant tips Liam , ive watched Moe Norman what a great bloke he was and kept it very simple . looking forward to seeing Dave do some more Tips
Great tips. Another one I like is to spray the club face with athletes foot spray. It leaves a residue that the ball will put a mark in, and you can see what part of the club is hitting the ball.
Nice video. I do have too much in my head when striking the ball. Simplifying the swing, and going back to what worked in past sometimes helps us get out of the rut. thanks
Tried Dave's trick with the bottle. Didn't have any water so used a bottle of beer. Still came over the top and hit my head with the bottle. Sat in casualty now with concussion and waiting to be stitched up..........................thanks mate!!!! LOL
@@GolfMates Aye, I never learn!!
It's fun when it starts to come together isn't it? Can see that at the end when you hit your two shots into the green. I can sense your excitement in how it's working well for you. Love it!
Liam, at @4:20 in this video you can see your right knee is straight as a board; locked out. The only way back to the ball is your upper body coming over the top. Now go watch Mo Norman. Mo's right knee never straightens, it always has flex and allows his lower body to work through the swing. Watch every tour pro; right knee stays flexed, allowing them to bring the club back into the ball on-plane. Good luck.
Love watching moe norman. In my opinion he was the best golfer to ever play the game. 1 ball out of bounds EVER in a tournament!!! Had the same golf tee for 7 years.
Liam, I really felt for you when you were struggling but I didn’t offer advice cause sometimes (usually a lot of times) people have to figure it out by watching what they think will help them and not what others may say will help them! I am happy for you golfmate! I am a consistent watcher of Todd Graves and anything to do with Moe Norman.
Tod Graves is considered “little moe!” If you watch his videos and slowly change your swing to a one plane swing it will save your back and give you a straighter easier ball flight!
That water bottle trick is genius. Thanks Liam and Dave!
Thanks for the tips -- saw them on earlier videos. I had heard of Moe Norman years ago. One of the best ball strikers ever. I remember Tiger Woods commented that the two golfers who actually "owned" their swings were Ben Hogan and Moe Norman.
Crazy I just stumbled upon Moe Norman last week and you make a video about it today. There is something to that single plain swing. Tried it out this past weekend and definitely made better consistent contact with all clubs.
Great video, Liam! Excellent tips! All the best Thursday on the reroof. Hope all goes well.
Mark
Love Moe Norman, he always played and hung out at my local course, quite a character and probably the best ball striker of all time.
Moe Norman was the King! Even Tiger said he was one of the best ball strikers to play the game. Moe lived 20 minutes from me. Quick Moe Norman story. Near the end of his life he was in the hospital and the nurse asked him if he knew where he was? He said the 5th green. She thought he was crazy. Turns out the hospital was built on an old golf course and he was right.
Love Golf Mates. Always makes my day, wherever video.
Would prefer you to spend a bit more time with the missus, now she is nearly due. Us Golf Mate's are willing to wait for content because you are good (Entertaining and informative)
3 vids a week, chicken and Rice :)
Commented before watching the vid as you are so good.
3 months ago, when I learnt you take turf after the ball. This set up was the way I tried to explain hitting ground after the ball to the Scouse! It's what broke my 80....once :)
I play a par 63
Thank you thank you thank you. I might just get back into the game now. Have always been hot and cold with my golf shots which has lead me to give up on a few occasions over the last 30 years. I might just turn that corner again
John
Thanks for the tips ,will try to put them to good use.Thanks for the Moe Norman link.
A tip I got was to wear a watch on your right hand with the face parallel to your palm up. Then on the downswing try to keep the watch face pointing to the sky as long as possible. It may feel like your club face is wide open,but as you approach the ball, the club face will naturally square. This will give you the shallowing of the club and increase club head speed because of the lever leverage you get because the of the club head is further from your hands when swinging in a circular arc. This is similar to a water skier swinging right or left of the tow boat. And increasing the velocity faster than the tow boat.
Wow that's a lot to think about during your swing. Give Shawn Clement a look on RUclips. Was not a lightbulb moment more like an arc light moment for me!!!
Great vlog again Liam, I've watched Mo Norman a lot over the years, he still remains inspirational in my opinion. Your golf Vlogs that chronicle the good, the bad and the ugly are also inspirational, golf is ultimately about fun and that's what you OMP the Dick, your Dad on earth, EBay, Windows, Chubby, Scraggy etc. bring to golf along with passion for the game ... you should be proud of what your giving to the grass roots golfing community ... oh and by the way your still lifting your hands 😂😂
Nigel hockenhull, might try lifting mine see if I can get down to 7 🤔 😂 😂
Mo Norman was hands high, it was one of the fundamentals of his single plane swing, I agree with you, do what works 👍
You brought up a good point about swing styles. I remember the ugly, self-taught swing of Chi Chi Rodriguez, a PGA star of years ago. Even Arnold Palmer's swing was unorthodox, but effective. I've ordered the swing mat.
Nice one. Good to hear from a real golfer with real faults like us.
Jack Nicklaus and Tiger Woods when asked have always said that Mo Norman was the best ball striker that ever lived. Mo had a single plane swing. His hands at address were in the same position that they were at impact.he also never put his club directly behind the ball. This helped with shoulder turn. I started positioning my Driver approximately 8 inches behind the ball at address a few months ago. My Driving has improved dramatically as I feel that I’m swinging smoother. Try it golfmates. It’s worth a try.
For some reason I thought the mat was going to be about your head. I like all the tips Liam but the best golf instructor I have come across is unquestionably Danny Maude. I won 3 medals this year following his teachings, simply top class
A really good bit if advice I got which has improved my scores (not necessarily my game) was in regards to club selection.
Say for example you look at your distance device and you have say 120yds - 130yds - 140yds Front - Middle - Back of the green
What I used to do was base my club selection on where the pin was. So in this scenario it'd be 9I to the front 8I middle, 7I back.
The advice I got was to select a club that you think you could clear the green with by a yard or two. If someone offered you say £1,000 to just clear the green and no more what club would you hit.
In my case this would be a 7I. If I hit a good one it'll usually carry about 140yds.
But how often do you hit a "good one" ? For me maybe about 10% of the time. Another 10% of the time it's a total duffer but about 80% of the time it's an ok shot but "Just didn't quite get hold of it" etc... and it maybe goes 125-135 sort of range.
So in the above scenario If I hit a 7 iron. Then 10% of the time I'll be just off the back of the green, I'll duff it 10% of the time but 80% of the time I'll be on the green somewhere.
On the flip side if the pin is 5 yards on the green and I decide to play to the pin which is 125yds away, then I'm going to be just short of the green 80% of the time, duff it 10% of the time and be on the green 10% of the time.
Understanding the logic behind this has really helped me get some lower scores without me actually improving as a ball striker or being able to hit it any further.
Liam, thanks for the tips bud. I like the water bottle drill especially. Seems to go well inline with Tourstriker Plane Mate craze, to shallow out the downswing. Really helping me to visualize that move. Liked and subcribed!
Moe Norman is class. And what a ball striker. Faldo said he was the greatest ball striker ever. Shame he couldn't putt for his life. He nearly always 3 putted. Spent all his time hitting irons and not practising putter that's why I think.
Great vid as always. Concentration is key I think. Easy to get lost in the moment.
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Magic Liam. Free Golf lessons, i love it and i am sure it will help me.
By the way. My wife nearly killed me after you demoed the practice mat. Just because i cut a panel out of her velvet dance dress to make one :-)
77, West Lancs. (I know it was 76, but i said 77) :-)
Brilliant video Liam,enjoyed Moe Norman too, he's modest like you, lol my swing is like all the "pros " different every time. Keep up the great work.
Very enjoyable and informative video that I believe will also help me, though I'm not a slicer. Been watchin Moe and Rich (ha ha ha), I mean, Todd Graves videos for years. Moe was a character and a sharpshooter who would've won many championships had it not been for the prudes in the professional golf world. He was a class act by himself.
I just found one of these matts in Japan, will order one for Xmas, see if I can totally lose my slice next year. Fact is though with my mini driver and shorter 3 wood shaft I have been knocking them straight down the fairway lately, just loving this cheap silly old driver, and man it hits long with just an easy swing. cheers Liam from Japan
Great video Liam. I very much enjoy Daves tips and glad to see its offering some help to your own game. You will be off 2 or 3 next season. Look forward to watching your progress...
Been watching Mo Norman vids for a while now, easy swing to learn too. Great tips Liam
Nice one liam I'm in October mode, course is waterlogged bunkers impossible to work with and my swing is shite. Now this time last year the same and almost packed this infuriating game in but became a golf mate and 80,90, even a 100 no problem move on no body has died. Mo Norman had he not had what may have been an autistic issue would have made a big impact in the US but could not do the crowds. However once was watched hitting driver 270 yards hitting 100 balls with a dispersion in SINGLE FIGURES!!! TOUR PROS
Thank you for sharing these! Definitely going to try the bottle and box drills.
Thanks Liam, I appreciate your hard work and your advice can only help my game.
Great tips. I purchased a 3-Pack of the mat, and should make some practice time to start using it.
Since I've been prescribed meds for high blood pressure and haven't had a decent night's sleep in a month, I'm playing more like Moe HOWARD, porcupine!!! 😂
Another great video liam, I have been struggling with the over the top swing for a while now . Will be trying the bottle aid and the mat. Many thanks keep the videos coming , life is life 👍
The cardboard box drill WILL help, too. I speak from experience! :-)
Had a great lesson today and made me realized that I was not rotating properly. I was smashing all shots once I sorted that out.
watched that first Moe Norman video a week or so ago, what a character and brilliant ! Swing your swing golfmates
G'day Liam
Got onto Moe Norman videos a while back
Amazing how he can hit a golf ball straight every time
Great video
When the time is right come Australia I know you'd have a great time on our golf courses
Roberto
That's a great video Liam.I myself do tend to swing over the top so I will definitely be trying the water bottle and the driver drills.Keep up the good work.👍🏌️♂️
brilliant vid Liam. i'll put the mat on my christmas list.
Excellent video, concentration is where I need to improve my game on the course , I am working on a pre shot routine which I will do every shot I take its not long but it serves to wake up my concentration
That mat sounds just what I’ve been after. And the tip with the bottle so perfect to help with OTT.
Graves stuff is solid and some of his recent videos have been fantastic. I went single plane last couple years and even misses are going straight or at worst pulled left. Ball position is still a battle but then it always was. Dunno about Mo/single plane for you at the moment Liam your game is in a good place to my eyes. Looking over some of the Graves stuff tho I'd recommend. Cheers!
i have been watching a lot of Moes videos and am practising this single plane swing. Hopefully by next summer I will be something like.
Another interesting Vlog i have also been watching Moe Norman/Todd Graves who worked with him and his swing is very different but you can use some of his ideas. I'm out of action at mo due to a hand operation but have been watching lots of other RUclips golf stuff and came across Golf Sidekick as well.
Keep up the content and theses tips are actually really very good.
Ps At West Lancs as well as your iron play you also putted extremely well!
Great tips Liam. I think I'll be trying the bottle. Have lost so much confidence in my swing I've lost at least 20 yards. If you're vid gets my confidence back then happy days. 🐔 And 🍚
Great video, my bad swings to a tee definitely going to try the bottle and the box tips hopefully straighten out my swing. Thanks pal. 👍
ive watched lots of videos of him and he was one character , didn't fit in on the pga tour so went back to Canada, all the greats said he was the best ball-striker that ever lived, even Tiger used to watch him hit balls on the range !
Mate, you forgot to mention Jim Furyk's swing. You need to show a round of snow golf with Mr Barlow that would be good fun to watch, cheers
Great video...Moe was amazing, even the way he dressed....sad no one really paid attention to him. The pros knew who he was and the game he had. I would have loved to have seen a match between both of them in the day...I would have put my money on Moe!!
I have a good Golf tip for Golfmates. If you are having a good start to your Golf Round. Put your score down, but don't add it up and don't think about it in your head. Just play the round and add up after Round is over.
Been doing moe Norman for 4 months improved 1 million percent graves golf little moe and your playing like the peoples golfer again
Thanks Liam, I'll be getting the mat for Christmas
Got the mat fantastic if you look on seb on golf there there is a code think its sebgolf get £10 off 🏌🏻♂️
Liam, Can you add more slow motion clips when demonstrating swings like this video? It would really help me visualise. Really appreciate all you do.
Tiger Woods is quoted in Golf Digest "Only two players have ever truly owned their swings: Moe Norman and Ben Hogan." When asked what he would like to achieve in golf, Tiger stated he wanted to own his swing, like Moe and Hogan. There's a great book on Moe, "Moe & Me: Encounters with Moe Norman, Golf's Mysterious Genius", by Lorne Rubenstein.
We are playing of fairway mats and they help you to hit straight shots in winnter
I like the idea Liam of making our swings work for us, without looking like wanna be tour pros. Great video as always .
Great video Liam, I always come over the top with a slice, definitely going to give the water bottle method a try 👍⛳️
Have watched Mo's videos for months now, what a straight hitter! Might have been OMP's older brother!!!
Hey Liam, I'm on a mission to break 90, 80. I've only just started playing again never was very good. But I'm going to do it my way, understand what needs to happen and how I can consitently make it happen. Thanks for the video the mat certainly looks like a good tool for me to help in my game.
Shawn Clement is the man. See him on RUclips. Uno when ppl get something and a light bulb goes on? He was like an Arc light going off in my head. It's so simple when he explains it. Hope it works for you.
@@howiewilliams1329 cheers I will certainly have a look 👍🏼
Thanks Liam! Another good one!
Great tips shared in our golf group 😁