World Chess Championship 2013 Chessmen Set - Magnus Carlen vs. Vishwanathan Anand - AncientChess.com
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- Опубликовано: 18 ноя 2013
- Specially designed by Studio Anne Carlton, these chessmen were selected by FIDE for the World Chess Championship 2013. A fascinating new stylization of the traditional Staunton design, this set features slender figures with flared bases, Unique detailing on the tops of the kings and bishops, and especially streamlined knights with great swooping curved necks. - AncientChess.com
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Thank you, delighted you made this vid available on youtube, as I'm considering buying the set. Now I know I will :)
Beautiful pieces, thanks for showing us!
Most mid-range and all luxury Staunton chess sets I’ve come across include two extra queens. I didn’t see extra queens in your presentation. Does this set come with two extra queens or can you purchase them separately? This set is currently being used again in the 2014 World Chess Championship between Carlson and Anand in Sochi Russia.
We've had a lot of comments on this set, and next to the comment that I set up the board incorrectly (I'm SO SORRY!), the widest comment seems to be a dislike of the knights.
But I have to tell you: after handling this set for a few years, it's rather growing on me -- I really like it! After getting past the 'unusual' shape of the knight, I must say that the pieces all have a very handsome, elegant styling, and the knight fits in perfectly with the overall vision of the set. I think some other chess fans are feeling the same way
AncientChess sir is this solid plastic or wooden cause it looks like solid plastic
@AccientChess I think the same way as you. At first, I feel the knights design a bit strange but then the more I look at it the more I like its usual style, very characteristic. I wish you can make another video about this chess set again with better video quality and probably outside with better natural lighting. Thanks.
@@CoffeeHouseChess Thanks for your good message. I would like to make a new video, and to compare this set to the Indian copy, which is much less expensive. But I have such a long list of videos I want to make -- I don't k now when I'll ever get to it! By the way, if I do, I promise to set the board up correctly :)
@@nikhildharendra Thanks for the question. This is solid boxwood, with the dark pieces stained. They are also weighted with metal inside.
Very nice set and thanks for the nice presentation. Certainly a set worthy of adding to one's collection.
Nice to see ur back again
I still love the design of these pieces and would very much like to own one, but the sales value on ChessBaron is still too high for me. Would you already have this set in plastic format with a much more affordable price? and if the answer is yes, how do I buy it?
Hello Rick can you tell me where I can obtain a beautiful board such as the one you are displaying this set on? What are the square sizes? Is this a cherry and maple wood composition? Very nice match for the set. Thank you in advance....Jorge R.
Hi Jorge, thanks for asking I'm sorry to say I don't have those boards anymore. I used to sell them, but too many of them were coming in damaged in shipping. I have many boards ... but I'm sorry I don't have those now
Dear Sir,Thank you for the wonderful video for all we chess fans. I wish these kind of chess sets are available everywhere in the world instead of only to those lucky ones from few specific countries.In india, such quality pieces are not available.During my twenties, I once bought a wooden chess pieces....when I wanted to make a knight move, the knight's neck came into my hand and the bottom piece part remained in the square.
Where did you buy this set from?
Do you know where I can see pictures of other SAC tournament sets. Other than this model?
Good question. I looked on the Studio Anne Carlton site but didn't find anything. (Not even this set)
www.studioannecarltongames.com/
Why doesn’t the set come with extra queens?
Lovely chess set introduced at the 2013 candidates tournament. I wonder how can I get it, these days. Official fide site says it's sold out. Any ideas? Don't you go and buy it first now...
Peralon if you still wonder you can buy them at the official dgt website
buy it on world chess store
indeed this is Interesting variation of staunton design pieces!
There are much nicer reproductions of 1850s sets that would also be tournament legal, so this is a regression of more than 150 years in terms of quality.
The board you have is a walnut color right ? Do you know if that was used in the championship as well ? Or was that Rosewood.
Thanks for the message. I don't know what the actual championship boards are made of, but I would guess Walnut because that seems to be the standard for DGT boards. The board shown in this video is sheesham wood and maple, probably not what the champs use.
Thanks for your reply. So Rosewood is not considered championship material either ?
I am considering buying a new board and i would like to have the same type as used in the Carlsen - Karjakin world championship. I have just recently bought the pieces as well and i love the design of it,
I think the DGT makers dictate a lot of what goes on at that level, or try to at least -- so there's less choice and variety than there would otherwise be. During the 2012 championship, I actually analyzed a photo to determine the dimensions of the board they were playing on. I can't seem to find my marked-up photo here in the studio, but it must have been 55 mm squares. Here's the company's web site www.digitalgametechnology.com/index.php/products/electronic-boards
I actually like this set. Do they still sell it?
Yes. For a while, it wasn't available, but you can find it again online. I haven't found a supplier for the original set, but Chess Baron is selling it for $295 (I don't know what they charge for shipping).
www.chessbaron.com/chess-X2077.htm
That's a good price for these sets. There are also sets with the DGT magnets or whatever they have - for boards that automatically report the position ... those are very expensive!
There are also unauthorized sets much less expensive. I have some of those ... will be listing them soon. You may find one on eBay searching 'championship chess set'
That Knight reminds me of the Ren and Stimpy horse :D
Actually I now love this set since my last comment of 6 months ago and it has taken its place as my 2nd favorite (the 1st being my William Pinney "liberty" set utilized in Reshevsky~Kashdan US Championship, 1942) It really grows aesthetically with time. And the fingers become used to the piece shapes, the feel, the weight. so give it some time. The king's design is very elegant. When Jaques introduced the original ppl also had mixed views and 71 yrs later was named the official international set. So don't dismiss it just yet, it's a radical, refreshing concept that challenges and beats the mundane basic fide german knight "toy looking" set.
Nice comment! I am rather fond of the idea that every couple of years they break out the special 'championship' set and the best minds in the world go at it.
Also, I happen to agree about the standard FIDE wooden "German" knights. To me, it feels like the 'cheapest' choice. There are so many elegant and handsome knights in the world of chess -- why settle for a quickly chopped-out, undetailed set?
Thank you. the pentagram knight, how can I ... I've been thinking and still don't know how to best describe it. "Ugly" is definitely NOT the right word for that piece. I used to think it was weird, that I don't care if its what the elites are playing with, etc. The best I can say is the piece "belongs" with the set. No need for reshaping of it or modification. I feel I've cultivated a mature opinion about it and that is perhaps 'abstract art that has taken concrete existence in the shape of a chess knight'.
...and sort of reminds me of a camel :)
very beautiful chess pieces
Thanks, Wise Man. It's good to hear appreciation for this set! It's still being used in the top level games, including the world championships.
Congratulations! A beautiful and meticulous comparison of styles of chess pieces. I really can not understand so many negative criticisms of the distinctive design of this set of chess pieces! I remember the first time I saw this beautiful game of pieces in action when watching videos of the Anand x Carlsen match of 2013, and how I was amazed by the beauty and simplicity of the design of these pieces, which very cleverly and happily changed the style of pieces of chess on the market.
I particularly appreciate the long-lined appearance of the pieces, supported by a simple yet elegant base. I also love the distinctive and unique details of the upper parts, especially the king, bishop and horse. From what I saw during game videos, this new design greatly improves the overall view of the pieces on the board and as a result should facilitate our analysis during the game.
If there is something negative in this set of pieces, it is certainly very high price compared to the market average of other models. For me for sure it will always be a dream of consumption and for this I will be accompanying its sale value, in case of possible reduction in price, acquire it.
Jose, thanks for the very thoughtful comment. Although I understand people's varying opinions of chess designs, I feel those negative responses are heavily weighted by the familiarity and entrenchment of the well-known Staunton stylings. I agree, this design makes the pieces all the more distinctive on the board, allowing for good viewing, and the long, smooth form is a simple and elegant touch.
I am going to be getting some off-brand editions of this set (much less expensive!), and when I do, I want to make a video specifically comparing the 'branded' and 'off-brand' pieces, so you can see if that extra hundreds of dollars really buys a better quality. Drop me a note if you haven't seen any postings by me about that, in the next few weeks.
Uuuhhh! Great news! I will be following this new possibility with great interest because, as I really suspected, design linked to a "personal brand" was the main reason that excessively increased the final cost of the pieces.
I am sure that if they are produced in large quantities and in a more economical way, the price should reduce greatly. In my opinion the differential of these pieces is its beautiful design, and therefore would still buy it with a slightly lower quality, but with a fairer price.
AncientChess how is that video coming along ? ☺️
Thanks for the nudge to get back to that video. I haven't done any video for a long time -- many distractions and a camera that has been malfunctioning a little more every time I use it. I finally have a new camera today, so I hope to make more videos soon. I do have the pieces to compare, which I think will be very interesting.
I can't believe the GMs are playing with this set.Don't like it at all.Too expensive. Nothing beats a classic German knight set by DGT or Chopra.I also like the Fischer-Spassky-Reykjavic style.
I have less expensive sets of this design now. I think the best place to buy the original set is from Chess Baron www.chessbaron.com/chess-X2077.htm
May i have the link for the chess board on the wall please? ?❤
Thanks for asking. I'm sorry, I don't have that now
@@rickknowlton9990 do you know at least where you bought it? Thanks
@@hiperbitcoinization3506 It is from Worldwise Imports ... I'm sorry, I don't know which model, they handle many boards
I find these pieces absolutely fascinating. I'm not sure whether I find the knights ugly or profound. I remember being captivated with the set watching the world championship.
Thanks for the good comment. It seems most people who are ready with their opinions find the knights just terrible ... but it's hard to tell whether they find the shape actually unpleasant, or they just find it very different from the Staunton design we all know. As for me, I find them interestingly different, and am pleased that new chess designs are being tried at the highest level
AncientChess I’ve actually ended up ordering this set so it will be interesting to see them in real life.
Where do you get them? I used to carry them, but my supplier stopped having them...and I have found them hard to find
AncientChess UK store called ChessBaron for £199.
Thanks very much! I'll look around a little more now that I know they are available
Cannot beat the original Staunton style from 1849 (?). I guess it doesn't much matter what set they use at this level as the players could play blindfold almost as well as they can sighted. The pieces just allow the rest of us to watch the game!
I would expect they play best over a real set. This design isn't my favorite, but I am impressed that they take such a bold departure from the familiar pieces in this high level tournament. My favorite design for playing would probably be the set made for the Simpson's in the Strand, circa 1820. Of course, it's not too possible to be objective now that we are thoroughly acquainted with the usual Staunton design, such as used in the Fischer/Spassky and subsequent Karpov/Kasparov matches.
how expensive they are?
+1723mat Now listed at 279.95. You can find them on my site AncientChess.com
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Why do they not have extra queens?
The sets in tournaments do. I don't know why this edition didn't bother with that.
I love the German Knight, it very simple, and I owned that set too 😁
Thanks for the good comment. For me, the German knights are a little too simple, kind of just 'blocked out' -- although the sets can be very nicely made. I prefer the French staunton pattern, where the knight heads are more horse-like, still simple and dignified. It's amazing how much variation there can be in knight's heads, even while other pieces have less variation. The knight's heads in this Championship set are certainly something different!
German knight is my least favourite knight. I prefer the russian knight
You set the board wrong dark square should be in the left side 😁😁
i know I know. It's a stupid mistake and I've apologized for it many times. Please review comments below, and find the value of this video beyond that particular 'blunder'. Thanks
Hey! I was delighted to see that the set is back in action, now being used in the 2016 Candidates tournament in Moscow! Check it out at worldchess.com
the USCF "Club Special" looks better and FIDE could have saved money by purchasing one.
Maybe they won the bidding that’s why their product were the one being used. I like the design though.
Yes, alas, we must always consider financial motives! But I agree, the design really is good, and now that I am used to the knights, after a few years now, I really like it!
a1 is supposedly dark square you got the wrong board position.....
Dumb mistake, right? I've apologized for this many times in the comments of the video. Once again. SORRY!!!!!!
How much are these pieces?
Thanks for asking. I don't have them, but it looks like ChessBaron is selling them for about $300 -- and there it looks like there are knock-off sets much cheaper coming onto eBay
www.ebay.com/i/302625943704?chn=ps
They use an electronic board in the championship now standard in modern chess. This pieces that you reviewed is it electronic pieces?
Thanks for asking. No, these aren't equipped for the DGT board. I haven't gotten into that technology (yet...)
I think i like the board better.
How by ?
If I understand, you wonder how to buy this set?
I will have a set like this on sale soon at my site ancientchess.com ...probably around $150.
The pieces from the original manufacturer are much more expensive - usually 400 dollars, now on sale for 300 ... at this site www.chessbaron.com/chess-X2077.htm
The board is sideways! >:(
+Raven Sinclair Yes yes, we've discussed that -- see recent comments by selecting 'Newest first' at the upper left of this comment thread. Thanks -- Rick
At least orientate the board correctly,before placing the pieces.
July 12-2022 buddy your board is set up backwards-please re do the video you;ve lost ALL CREDIBILITY-
And the black square must be on the right
+Sasha Bianco Check the thread, we've discussed that. sorry on that account too. Oh, there is so much to apologize for! Enjoy anyway
I don't hate the set but I'm not in love with it either. The knight is very unattractive from some view points. And the kings 'crown', well; while I like the idea of using cutouts to depict the crowns arches. Here I can't help but be reminded of those silly little paper hats they used to put on a rack of lamb.
Yes it was ugly knight.
U set the board wrong
I know, pretty dumb mistake right? I've apologized for this many times in the past four years (see lengthy comments below). I guess it's time again.
.............................................................................................Sorry!! :)
They look very modern and sleek. But why go thru the high cost of making them out of wood when it is going to look like plastic pieces anyway?
For myself, I prefer wood. But I think you have a good point: why not do a little nice carving, especially in the knight? I'm not crazy about this streamlining -- go ahead and give the pieces some character!
I always slightly disliked the huge amount of detail knights always had compared to other pieces, so I come to like the idea of the knight in this set.
studio Anne Carlton? I thought DGT made these.
I don't know who's got their fingers in what parts of the pot here. It's designed by Daniel Weil and I guess whoever shows up at the right place and time with enough money in their hand gets to put their stamp on it. So Studio Anne Carlton is one, a long time big chess set maker, and DGT is the big electronic board maker, for automatic capture of moves in tournament games. I'm sure they all have their lawyers and representatives showing up in nice suits with brief cases, making each other offers they can't refuse. As far as I'm concerned, it's designed by Weil and accepted for World Championship play. That's my angle :)
@@rickknowlton9990 Well I am seeing this set here by Anne Carlton, DGT also has the set on their website, and another entity (shop.worldchess.com/shop/official-world-chess-set) features them on their website. It is a bit confusing for someone who wants THE official authentic one that was used.
your board is on the wrong side
I know, I have been getting this comment for years, and I apologize -- really! One dumb mistake and it's on the internet for all to see. How embarrassing.
Chessmen design should be by their nature of move... like BISHOP is triangle ship what we see in modern chess. ROOK is like a tube or pipe. ... Ok.... But what about KNIGHT.... When its capture eight square each move like a circle.... So its shape should be quite similar to a stick with a ball.... Cause all peices are have some sign of their move instead of KNIGHT.... SO new shape f NIGHT shuld be designed...... this is my opinion
IN MY OPINION THE CHESSMEN USED IN KASPAROV VS DEEP BLUE MATCHES IS THE MOST BEAUTIFUL
Time Wheel
It's actually a very modern (20th century) idea that pieces should have a geometric quality that relates to their moves on the board. This was taken to extremes in the modern sets as shown here:
ruclips.net/video/tldweVpBZhU/видео.html
The idea of considering a knight's move as covering a circle is new to me -- I have rearely heard it described in that way and never seen that suggestion for the knight's shape -- but I find it very interesting!
The pieces from Karpov vs Deep Blue are a very standard set, similar to the Fischer vs Spassky or Karpov vs Kasparov sets. A set like that can be found here:
www.ebay.com/itm/DELUXE-FISCHER-vs-SPASSKY-CHESS-SET-REYKJAVIK-1972-K-3-75-801-/222164244497
Thanks for commenting!
That's just your opinion time wheel, I never became too fond of the K-DB '97 set which is the '72 championship set with those funny looking bubble-headed bishops. Give me a William Pinney or a Dubrovnik 1950 any day.
What brand are the chess board?
+bigboy gil Thanks for the question. The board shown in this video is not representative of the actual championship boards. This one shown has 50 mm squares and is from a factory in India -- doesn't have a brand name that I know of. The boards they used in the actual championships are DGT (digital game technology) boards of 55 mm squares.
What a lovely board. Thanks for the reply
Your meant to pull the pieces from the bottom of the cardboard so your not tearing the cardboard. 😖
Hunh? You can't pull them from the bottom. Cardboard is there. To prevent tearing all you can do is pull out the tabs and allow the cardboard to unfold.
I know that this set has been around for 7 years now. It is used in both the World Championship match along with the Candidates Tournament. Me personally I think that the set is ugly. Especially the Knight design. There is a Knight similar to the chiseled Art Deco style of the Knight & I think that it is a much better looking Knight. It comes from the Romanian/Hungarian chess set. I personally prefer the look of the Romanian/Hungarian set over the World Chess Championship set. The reason I like the Romanian/Hungarian set. Is because it is a blend of Western & Eastern European Staunton set design. Too bad this isn't the set used in World Championship and Candidates matches these days. I own the Red Stained Boxwood version. It looked really good on a granite printed vinyl board.
www.royalchessmall.com/product/3-8-romanian-hungarian-chess-pieces-only-set-weighted-ebonised-boxwood/
www.houseofstaunton.com/granite-no-1-full-color-vinyl-chess-board.html
Thanks for the interesting comment. I do find the Romanian Hungarian set a nice design -- but then, I find many designs very appealing. Where championships are concerned, I am especially fond of Frank Cammarata's design that is used in the St. Louis tournaments .. but we all have our tastes. I think the idea of this Championship design was to strike out with something new -- and indeed it has. I've started to get used to it, and I become fond of the special place it holds as it is used in the Candidates match on into the championship.
Omg !!! The table is set wrong, the lower-left corner must be black :)))
+Taw Moto I know, isn't it embarassing? I mentioned it at 14:50 -- oops! Hope that didn't distract you too much from the view of the pieces. They're pretty interesting --
Yes, interesting pieces, thanks you for the review.but I also wanted to mention that there is a world championship table, special for this set, which has the square of 50mm.I also am curious if they usr 50mm or 55mm table. shop.chess.co.uk/Official-World-Chess-Championship-Chess-Set-Boar-p/cb04616.htm
+Taw Moto I have looked into that question, since I was considering offering a board with the set. The world champions played on a board of 55 mm squares, not 50 (as are shown in this video and in the listing you referenced). Although the 50mm/~2inch boards are 'acceptable' standard, the 55mm/(2.65~2.75 inch) boards are more the preferred tournament standard, from what I've seen.
Indeed, alyhough everyone reccomends 76-78% ratio between king diameter and square size, all tournaments are played on DGT boards, which are 55mm, so this it is not respected at all.I also researched a lot în this aspect and I still don't understand why this happens.Maybe because DGT won't make smaller boards?:)
Also I think USCF imposes 57mm boards, which are huge
I bought this set. But I would much rather have the Chavet vintage set used in the Kasparov Karpov matches of the late 80's and Intel Chess Grand Prix. The newer Chavet sets are *FUGLY*
419 dollars too expensive to bought something like that i can found this with 90 dollars LOL
I sincerely believe it was made for the coronation of Magnus. The whole thing about its pieces being based "on the columns of classical buildings"... and whatnot, LoL what a load. The designer is trying to be H. Staunton. I cant appreciate the knight, I'm sorry
Dead right. This set is ugly, artless - just like much of modern architecture.
I like this "specialy designed for... whatever" selling mana BS
I hate when the people really dont know how to put the chess board in the correct way (white square on your right) and the queen and king bad :(
I know, isn't that just ingrant? What's even worse is if you go through all the trouble of making a video, then realize you made a silly mistake ... and for the next decade you're getting comments from people who don't appreciate a thing but are enamored by their personal ability to criticize what they see. Go make some videos, Mr M. send me a link. I'll destroy them.
Not very new or nice design, too expensive ,only ebonized boxwood for dark pieces, bishop looks like a sex toy, Queen looks like a lamp post, not nice at all.This lad likes them , there not selling as well as they thought , many chess players not mad on them.
Knights are important, especially as this is the most disappointing piece in many chess sets (most of the Lichess ones look like CAMELS). Everything is right about these pieces, but the paper container is not a good idea. It will wear down the pieces in time. Planned obsolescence on the manufacturer´s part?
Nice to hear an appreciative review of this set. I think the paper holder was a failed attempt at something clever. It's very difficult to get the pieces in and out and easy to tear in the process. Later editions have sturdy foam in place of the folded paper thing, and the foam has specifically sized holes that firmly hold each piece. I think it was more a lack of planning in the original packaging.
@@AncientChess I like the slight abstractions. I made the mistake of looking up the price of these chessmen... Pricey. That"you can get anything on Amazon" is not true: so much plastic, and "handmade" pieces that any mediocre carpenter could do a better job of (apart from the really pricey ones, and they are few).
@@tomstills5146 Yeah, these videos last longer than the listings they refer to. Right now, I find this on eBay www.ebay.com/itm/144123053995?hash=item218e6747ab:g:S84AAOSwdVtgqlh9
... but I don't see the packaging which would tell me that the set was from the original authorized manufacturer. The knock-off sets I have handled are a little different and less precise. Here's a link to an authorized set, a neat $100 more www.chessbaron.com/product/X2077/?gclid=Cj0KCQjwwY-LBhD6ARIsACvT72N7OSbbmUDUYXWs4YjPQUbulqfHBOjrofGq5pkeeREKp5rC9IrgUiEaAtdnEALw_wcB
..plus shipping :)
too expensive and without the double queen ((((((((((( no no no
+Sasha Bianco Hey, it is what it is. Presented as offered by the manufacturer, priced as required by the import company. We offer what we can, don't always have what everyone wants (((((( sorry sorry sorry
awful, the previous knight design was better. Sinquefield Cup chess pieces are so much better than these. they should have used House Of Staunton. nothing like putting a cross on an "Indian" crown or turban. can't go wrong with a Jacques design.
vassili osipov Yes, this design is very controversial! The knights in particular venture well into new territory and would not be considered standard by many players. The thing I like most about this set is just that it is different, and shows that innovation still lives in the game.
I agree completely regarding the sets used in St. Louis matches. Excellent!! They were designed and custom made specifically for the St. Louis tournaments, including of course the Sinquefield and the US Championships, by Frank Camaratta -- one of (if not THE) leading expert(s) in Jaques and Staunton designs in the world. His expertise shows! I have asked him about those sets and he tells me that at this point they are available only by commission, individually made.
the previous FIDE set was much better. simple and yet elegant without being radical.
i like Your videos and have watched all of them. You're very informative.
don't agree
This is not the right board
Great pieces but pls delete this video and redo it's because the Chess board is a dark square in right corner this is wrong. Supposedly it is a white square.
Yeah, I've had a lot of comments about that. Have apologized many times. Delete and redo? You must think I have a lot of time on my hands. Much better I move forward and make the further videos I have in mind. Tell you what. Why don't you do this video all over, with the board placed correctly, and I'll send a message for people coming here to go to your video instead? No problem, right?
I don't like the Knight. The neck does not look natural. The Knight should look like the head of a war horse. These Knights do not look like war-horses!
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Ugly pieces.
Everybody has an opinion, right? Yours is not uncommon in this case. Check out some more of my videos, let us know what you think ancientchess.com/page/videos.htm
ugly ugly set
so ... we understand you have an opinion ...
I own one. With doubIe queens for promotion. matches perfectIy with a 57 mm wood Wenge board (darksquares). It cost me 70 Euro it was speciaI price offer. Iooks modern Staunton form, perfectIy handcrafted, and transfers the designers ideas to modernize oIder Staunton form chesspiece sets, from which i have 3 ones, Iike Fischer Spasski,Lessing, and an India styIe board.I often cannot decide which one to use, but this is my favoerite since 2020
And the best detaiI is here, pawns are 56 mm in size, 32mm bottom, they are important figures and mostIy negIected,such as being IittIe dwarfs, by the handcrafters of other sets !
Thanks for the great comments. Since the time this was made, more sets have become available, at better prices and with 4 queens. Sounds like you have a great Championship collection! Send comments any time.
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