Absolutely insane. We're just looking for steady improvement, and that's exactly what we're getting. Rookie head coaches make mistakes. Rookie coordinators make mistakes. Heck Belichick went 5-11 his first year with the Pats, and he had Drew Bledsoe!! What this staff is doing with so little is amazing, and gives me a ton of hope for the coming seasons. Conststency of scheme is absolutely critical with a young QB and team. The idea that would fire this head coach or OC after one year, and force the rookie QB (who they have CLEARLY mentored extremely well) to go back to square one and start his 2nd year being forced to learn an all new scheme, and build rapport with a new OC and/or HC is asinine. Consistency is king. The results are incredible and our No.3 pick is performing beyond our wildest dreams. That's proof enough he's in good hands. Now we have to build in these gains and take the next step not change course and start again. This is a stupid conversation. Do better.
Argument lacking any logic - don't dump poor coach who isn't ready for the role because stud rookie QB may yave to learn new sytsem? Thus keep non-functioning pieces and remain uncompetitive.
@Oldguard_8 my argument is that Mayo is improving along with Maye, that AVP is clearly the right man for the job (the proof being Maye's performance) and, most importantly, that the continuity of keeping this group together allows for building on the impressive gains already achieved this year, and that it is a much better strategy than scrapping and starting from scratch. Who would we get?? Vrabel? He's going to have eight other options, and he already hinted that he doesn't want to come here. Another coordinator getting called up? That's just dumb. There are no sure-things on the coaching market so the risk in starting over is huge. I'll accept that maybe the DC could be replaced with little disruption, and the gains may be worth the risk. But the idea of firing Mayo, only to jump on the coaching carousel with the EIGHT OTHER TEAMS who are gonna need head coaches this year is complete stupidity. AVP is doing great with Maye, and offensively he's doing the best he can with what he's got. He can't block on the o-line, and he can't catch footballs. Our problems on offense are missed blocks and dropped passes, not bad coaching. We were never gonna win anything this year. This staff had one job to do: develop Drake Maye into an NFL QB while keeping the team moving forward, and they are succeeding in that mission far better than I would've thought possible. Fire the coach?!?! GTFOH with that stupid sh*t.
@@BCSully83 Kurt Warner is right there with us, he did say that some of the plays against zones the spacing wasn't right He didn't know if it was play design or bad routes by the wr
They have played the dregs of the league and the defense is atrocious. AFC is abysmal this year. The only top offense they have played is the Bengals, and that was in week 1 missing Higgins and Burrow coming back from injury.
The defense had to go backwards. Regardless of your take on BB he was and is the defense guy. His son added value and he is gone. Add in the hurt players and free agent who left equals regression. Then the fact that mayo is not the defense guy we had been hopping he would. Lastly BB had to go, let's not confuse the issue.
All Kraft does is massive propaganda every day (probably for the stupidest of Pats fans I guess) and some morons get upset that one guy that Belichick knows defends Bill in the press. Kraft attacks Belichick non-stop for years and occasionally someone close to Bill talks back. Look pal, we know who the f'ing a-hole in Foxboro is and don't you forget it. Your lies and propaganda mean nothing, only wish I could say it to your pathetic face. You losers are a dime a dozen.
If the Patriots win 4 or less games and keep everybody, what are we doing? Does Robert Kraft actually believe that another Eliot Wolf draft is going to turn this team around? Another class of genius picks such as Ja’Lynn Polk at 35 overall? We could have added a young, dynamic playmaker in McConkey, but instead Wolf went against consensus and took the guy who is now the worst wide receiver in the league by most advanced statistics. Kraft went from sending apology letters to fans after going 8-9, to (probably) keeping everybody after winning less than 5 games. Either get rid of Wolf and hire a legitimate GM, or get ready for another offseason of no moves + leaking to the media about how we “almost” landed guys. Wolf learned the latter trick during his time in Green Bay. Drake Maye is being held hostage here. Can’t wait to draft a guard (Will Campbell) in the first round and run it back with Pop, Boutte, Polk, Baker, and Bourne! WOOHOO!
Amazing that the media guys aren't talking about McConkey every day. Isn't that the question about the roster? Wolf has been apart of the Pats drafts since 2021, he isn't some new guy. Wolf went out of his way to not draft McConkey by swapping that pick with the Chargers so Wolf could then draft Polk with the Chargers pick. Basically, the Pats and Chargers traded McConkey for Polk. Why is this not discussed? Why won't the stations put it on the radio shows agenda? Do they wait for Kraft to tell them what to talk about?
Mayo has known for YEARS he is the next HC, but he is clearly NOT a student let alone master of his craft. He does not scheme, teach, manage, nor have the respect of the players. Years of prep, a lifetime in the sport at the highest levels, and years on the BB staff result in THIS? The mistakes made by Mayo are what you might find at the HS level. From the time they intro'd him (yes big brains said race matters to him) to the 'we had control of this game' last weekend (with the in between 'we;'re a tough team/we're a weak team') make the Pats a JOKE. Mayo learned NOTHING. Lifelong Pats fan - I wanted the next Pats coach to succeed. Mayo just isn't the guy, and not showing he is going to become that guy either. Just cut bait and move on. Changing the staff around him is not the same as Mayo being better - and Maye does not = Mayo is good. Think its a coincidence that up and coming coaches DON"T want to join Mayo's staff? THEY KNOW.
The defense was the signal and it is clear that Mayo learned nothing in all those years. That is damning and basically says Mayo means nothing to this organization.
Patriots fan. Wolf / Mayo / Van Pelt have hit on the QB (Drake Maye). That alone gives them next season. To fire them 12 months into the rebuild would be organizational malpractice. The Patriots have had 4 HC in 31 years. This is not a club that hires and fires.
Maye was the obvious pick so they get absolutey NO CREDIT for that. Nice try in your weak shilling attempt. Do you clowns get paid anything for this? Oh yeah it's Kraft, of course you don't. Sorry Jonathan that he makes you do this.
Mayo was an excellent player and can lead small groups, as he has proven as a player and coach. But he is not head coaching material. Everyone forgets, Belichick had the Patriots as the 1 seed after winning 7 games in a row with Mac Jones as his rookie starting QB. Think about that. Mac was a bad pick, but you needed someone to play QB, and he was the best option available. Belichick should still be coaching this team. He probably would have drafted Nabers or moved down and took JJ McCarthy, and the jury is still out on Maye (by the way). Let’s stop crowning a kid who cannot win games when Mac Jones could.
These Bill loyalists are hilarious 😂
Lombardi’s ring tone is the Sopranos theme 😂😂😂😂😂😂
Love how Michael forgets the last 3 years of Bill, and the last 10 years of the player development in New England
Drake wa 30/40 with 7 drops
It's funny they have this segment. 😂
Oh look, NESN has Baghdad Bob back on.
You know being the son of a great coach is genetic and genes skip a year.
Hey Mike, why don’t you go bother the Jets. Take Bill with you.
Please get a new defensive coordinator
Absolutely insane. We're just looking for steady improvement, and that's exactly what we're getting. Rookie head coaches make mistakes. Rookie coordinators make mistakes.
Heck Belichick went 5-11 his first year with the Pats, and he had Drew Bledsoe!!
What this staff is doing with so little is amazing, and gives me a ton of hope for the coming seasons. Conststency of scheme is absolutely critical with a young QB and team. The idea that would fire this head coach or OC after one year, and force the rookie QB (who they have CLEARLY mentored extremely well) to go back to square one and start his 2nd year being forced to learn an all new scheme, and build rapport with a new OC and/or HC is asinine.
Consistency is king. The results are incredible and our No.3 pick is performing beyond our wildest dreams. That's proof enough he's in good hands. Now we have to build in these gains and take the next step not change course and start again. This is a stupid conversation. Do better.
Argument lacking any logic - don't dump poor coach who isn't ready for the role because stud rookie QB may yave to learn new sytsem? Thus keep non-functioning pieces and remain uncompetitive.
@Oldguard_8 my argument is that Mayo is improving along with Maye, that AVP is clearly the right man for the job (the proof being Maye's performance) and, most importantly, that the continuity of keeping this group together allows for building on the impressive gains already achieved this year, and that it is a much better strategy than scrapping and starting from scratch. Who would we get?? Vrabel? He's going to have eight other options, and he already hinted that he doesn't want to come here. Another coordinator getting called up? That's just dumb. There are no sure-things on the coaching market so the risk in starting over is huge. I'll accept that maybe the DC could be replaced with little disruption, and the gains may be worth the risk. But the idea of firing Mayo, only to jump on the coaching carousel with the EIGHT OTHER TEAMS who are gonna need head coaches this year is complete stupidity.
AVP is doing great with Maye, and offensively he's doing the best he can with what he's got. He can't block on the o-line, and he can't catch footballs. Our problems on offense are missed blocks and dropped passes, not bad coaching.
We were never gonna win anything this year. This staff had one job to do: develop Drake Maye into an NFL QB while keeping the team moving forward, and they are succeeding in that mission far better than I would've thought possible.
Fire the coach?!?! GTFOH with that stupid sh*t.
@@BCSully83most sensible pats fan in America. Reading this I almost dropped a tear of joy
@@BCSully83 Kurt Warner is right there with us, he did say that some of the plays
against zones the spacing wasn't right
He didn't know if it was play design or bad routes by the wr
They have played the dregs of the league and the defense is atrocious. AFC is abysmal this year. The only top offense they have played is the Bengals, and that was in week 1 missing Higgins and Burrow coming back from injury.
The defense had to go backwards. Regardless of your take on BB he was and is the defense guy. His son added value and he is gone. Add in the hurt players and free agent who left equals regression.
Then the fact that mayo is not the defense guy we had been hopping he would.
Lastly BB had to go, let's not confuse the issue.
Ah, yes, Lombardi, Bill’s Chief Propaganda Officer.
All Kraft does is massive propaganda every day (probably for the stupidest of Pats fans I guess) and some morons get upset that one guy that Belichick knows defends Bill in the press. Kraft attacks Belichick non-stop for years and occasionally someone close to Bill talks back.
Look pal, we know who the f'ing a-hole in Foxboro is and don't you forget it. Your lies and propaganda mean nothing, only wish I could say it to your pathetic face. You losers are a dime a dozen.
Wonder if he will have a cabinet position in Bill's next administration..
If the Patriots win 4 or less games and keep everybody, what are we doing?
Does Robert Kraft actually believe that another Eliot Wolf draft is going to turn this team around? Another class of genius picks such as Ja’Lynn Polk at 35 overall?
We could have added a young, dynamic playmaker in McConkey, but instead Wolf went against consensus and took the guy who is now the worst wide receiver in the league by most advanced statistics.
Kraft went from sending apology letters to fans after going 8-9, to (probably) keeping everybody after winning less than 5 games.
Either get rid of Wolf and hire a legitimate GM, or get ready for another offseason of no moves + leaking to the media about how we “almost” landed guys. Wolf learned the latter trick during his time in Green Bay.
Drake Maye is being held hostage here. Can’t wait to draft a guard (Will Campbell) in the first round and run it back with Pop, Boutte, Polk, Baker, and Bourne! WOOHOO!
Amazing that the media guys aren't talking about McConkey every day. Isn't that the question about the roster? Wolf has been apart of the Pats drafts since 2021, he isn't some new guy. Wolf went out of his way to not draft McConkey by swapping that pick with the Chargers so Wolf could then draft Polk with the Chargers pick. Basically, the Pats and Chargers traded McConkey for Polk. Why is this not discussed? Why won't the stations put it on the radio shows agenda? Do they wait for Kraft to tell them what to talk about?
Lombardi gotta trash the pats for bill his lover💕
Mayo has known for YEARS he is the next HC, but he is clearly NOT a student let alone master of his craft. He does not scheme, teach, manage, nor have the respect of the players. Years of prep, a lifetime in the sport at the highest levels, and years on the BB staff result in THIS? The mistakes made by Mayo are what you might find at the HS level. From the time they intro'd him (yes big brains said race matters to him) to the 'we had control of this game' last weekend (with the in between 'we;'re a tough team/we're a weak team') make the Pats a JOKE. Mayo learned NOTHING. Lifelong Pats fan - I wanted the next Pats coach to succeed. Mayo just isn't the guy, and not showing he is going to become that guy either. Just cut bait and move on. Changing the staff around him is not the same as Mayo being better - and Maye does not = Mayo is good. Think its a coincidence that up and coming coaches DON"T want to join Mayo's staff? THEY KNOW.
The defense was the signal and it is clear that Mayo learned nothing in all those years. That is damning and basically says Mayo means nothing to this organization.
wow , he iust can't do it , give the Pats any credit
For what? For sucking? You clowns are just too much.
Patriots fan. Wolf / Mayo / Van Pelt have hit on the QB (Drake Maye). That alone gives them next season. To fire them 12 months into the rebuild would be organizational malpractice. The Patriots have had 4 HC in 31 years. This is not a club that hires and fires.
Maye was the obvious pick so they get absolutey NO CREDIT for that. Nice try in your weak shilling attempt. Do you clowns get paid anything for this? Oh yeah it's Kraft, of course you don't. Sorry Jonathan that he makes you do this.
We’re going to go to Dairy Queen after the game. Love Lombardi!
Mayo was an excellent player and can lead small groups, as he has proven as a player and coach. But he is not head coaching material. Everyone forgets, Belichick had the Patriots as the 1 seed after winning 7 games in a row with Mac Jones as his rookie starting QB. Think about that. Mac was a bad pick, but you needed someone to play QB, and he was the best option available. Belichick should still be coaching this team. He probably would have drafted Nabers or moved down and took JJ McCarthy, and the jury is still out on Maye (by the way). Let’s stop crowning a kid who cannot win games when Mac Jones could.
Mayo needs to be fired!
mayo and covington aren't very intelligent coaches tbh