I've been searching for this film for 7 years, I've remebered everything about it except for the name and now found it by chance. I love it and it made a great impact on me. Thank you a million times for putting it up. Also the mother is horrible...
The mother is played by actress Sean Young and a lot of people find that's she's irritating. She's perfect for this role..."ice cold." This book/movie is by Steven Levenkron, Ph.D. (he treated Karen Carpenter). He also wrote The Best Little Girl in the World.
This is such a powerful film. The act of cutting is not often brought up, but it is a very serious and very deadly issue that needs to be addressed. Each character portrayed their roles beautifully. I only wish that if someone sees this movie and is a cutter or knows someone who ... read moreis cutting that they will learn that this issue is no joke
The therapist is played by actress Rhea Perlman (Cheers) and she's the ideal therapist. Having an office inside a mall is a great location. It's genius and also show's she cares. Where do teens "usually" love to go...the mall. Too bad therapists in the real word don't think of this. The book is called, “The luckiest girl in the world!” by Steven Levenkron. The opening scene showing her ice skating is symbolic with cutting/self-injury. The blades on her ice skates cuts into the ice.
@blue1bubbles I have been cut for 3 years. On arms, wrists, legs, stomach... My parents don't know it even though we are very close. It IS possible for parents -to be blind. And... you're right with this 'full time job'. It's really hard to hide scars and pretend you're ok but after some months... years, you become the best actor ever.
thank you sooooooooo much for posting this movie!!!! I wanted to see this for sooo many years now.., I can finally see it now because of you!!! so thank you sooo wery much!!! love lili
I remember when I first saw this on TV, and I thought she was constantly arching her eyebrow on purpose. About halfway through, I realized that's just how they were. Creepy stuff.
ya, and it also depends how sensitive person is and self confidant...but not many teenagers are strong to avoid consults from other kids at this age. honestly, i hated highschool cause i was different from other girls, just because i didnt want to be clone. but i didnt have on my mind to hurt myself, but i waited and tried to become better than them, and show them "who's the boss now", now after 8 years, i did show them who i really am and how lame they where and stayed that way.
I just stopped cutting last year and beating myself up early this year (no thanks to my therapist at all, she only made matters worse and I'd just go and hurt myself even more) and I'm proud of myself, because for so long I believed I would never be able to break the cycle and yet here I am today self harm free. Anyone can stop hurting themselves, it may take time and some hard work and effot, you will have relapses but eventually if you stick to it you'll get there. YOU CAN STOP IT!!!
You wont understand unless you've done it...but it requires a person to be in a dark, sad, angry state of mind to want to do it. It may be a good thing that you don't want to understand. No one should have to feel like they need to hurt themselves. Even if you don't get it though, being there for her is the best thing you can do. Its common for people to relapse. Just don't get upset or angry with her. Sounds like you're a great friend.
@blue1bubbles Parents usually don't know because people that cut themselves have learned how to hide it easily. Sometimes the parents are usually too busy to notice and that's one of the factors that lead to cutting. Not all people wear long sleeves for it; there are obviously different parts of your body you can cut. Sure, it can seem like a ful time job keeping cutting a secret, but sometimes it's not that hard and it can become the center of your life at the time, so it doesn't seem that hard
I used to be a SI'er. Its very easy to continue to hurt yourself, even in situations that aren't that horrible! I thank Yahwea, though, for helping me to understand that hurting myself wasn't fixing my problems. Don't get me wrong, I can still feel the tearing of my skin and how euphoric it was in my time of "need." That, unfortunately, never goes away.
Whenever I see Dawn and her family (especially the mother) I think of that Evanescence song, "Everybody's Fool" because they portray themselves as almost "perfect" but because of Dawn's self-harming, they are exposed as not so perfect and that they have hid their flaws for too long.
As for the body being ugly; that's a matter of opinion. I have scars on my both, and my boyfriend happens to like them. Some people are able to love people for who they are, even if they may have perfections such as scars, pimples, etc. You may think scars are ugly, but that's not a opinion that is shared by everyone.
No, it goes by both titles. On Lifetime Channel I saw it as "Secret Cutting". The person who posted this movie up even says it is also named "Secret Cutting".
i had the same problem tried anything to hurt myself and now im better and it was all because i just kept myself postitive and worked my best and even if its not ur best u r still being good just no pushing ur self to those limits anymore
I remember the days of hiding in the bathroom like that...a lot of people go threw this sorta thing, no one is proud of it. I'm lucky I overcame it on my own. No one should be ashamed of it.
@xmisogyny If someone self injures, it doesn't make them "crazy" or "mental." They're going through issues and many don't know how to talk about it or don't feel like they can.
I remember i saw this on tv years ago and thought about it many times since then..randomness brought me here and now it finally found this film title hehe :)
@blue1bubbles It's amazing what parents will ignore. I never tried to cover up my cuts or scars and some of them were horrible. I just always had some stupid excuse for how I got them "I cut it on a fence... i fell in the shower..." still my parents had no idea until I was hospitalized.
one reason why the movie is quite dramatic may be because in the book this is based on by Steven Levenkron, the girl is not in any way an 'average' or 'standard' type (whatever that is). Shes a championship skater, has suffered extensive physical abuse, and when she cuts she completely dissociates. she also has manic episodes. suggesting she also May also have a severe personality disorder.
everyone stop commenting about her eyebrow!!! its getting irritating!! when your stressed or angry your body raises an eyebrow!! its stress related!! its not her fault!!
Triggering means, it may cause a negative reaction or "trigger" a memory and feeling. Which means it may bring these memories or feelings back or to you. If someone is watching this movie, and is going through a self-harm addiction, then it may trigger them to relapse.
i love this movie.. last time i watched it was in november, so i'm watching it again. i dont know if theres more like this, but i love movies like this (such as perfect body, odd girl out, thirteen, a secret between friends, for the love of nancy, sharing the secret, etc.) i'm not sure if they all have the same producers but they seem related somehow.
2:26- 2:34. The refrence to Princess Diana is very relevant because she had admitted to self injuring. I wonder what Rebecca would say if she found out that the person she admires did the same thing that she ridicules Dawn for doing.
I use to cut myself two years ago from all the stress and felt unwanted. But it's true what a commenter said before it takes a lot of strength and self willingness to completely stop. To be honest the thought gets into my head when something makes me said or a little depressed but I push it out of my mind. And like another person said there are ointments to make the scars smooth and not visible . Most of the ones in my arm are all gone and some you really have to be staring at my arm to find t
the fact of the matter is a decent amount of people know i do, the real problem for people who cut is not those who ridicule them for doing it but reconciling that they will be seen as different for doing it, yes they have issues, but that is the reason they cut, that should not lead to another reason for them to dip deeper into the depressive chasms of ones own inner thoughts.
blimey people... pick out all of her faults why dont you, thats the sort of thing that leads to low self esteem & cutting! brilliant film, influenced my media project no end!!! thanks =)
@stacks6969allday Self harm is a coping mechanism, and obviously coping mechanisms do not solve problems. The point of any coping mechanism is to help the person to deal with their emotions. People usually turn to self harm when nothing else works, such as in time of stress. When people are in stress, they may not be thinking clearly. Also, self harm does release endorphins, which is why a lot of people who cut, burn, hit, etc. report feeling high, calm, numb, etc.
God, that moment with Dawn's mom describing sex between her and Dawn's father couldnt NOT have been more awkward. . .O_o if I had been Dawn I would've stuck my fingers in my ears and started shouting "La, la, la, la, la. . . I cant hear you!!!" I'm SO thankful my mom isnt like that. . .my mom is really cool actually (most of the time)
I love when the mom comments "the sex is ummm, but I hoped it would get better". OMG, she is so cut throat to the dad. Did anyone else laugh at that part? The poor kid.
When you get to 10th grade, people really aren't that bad. There's a trend you see in schools these days where once a grade hits a certain age, say when they go into the 10th or 9th grade, people drop out of the hierarchy system and everybody becomes friends because they're mature enough to see past all the bullshit. Movies depict an unrealistic picture of what High school is like for younger people.
not always true... i never has any friends when i was younger, but as i went through senior school i developed tight friendships with a close group of friends i was cutting. i started when i was 12, and im almost 18 and even now when life seems good i still cant stop. there's just emptiness inside.
Remember that this was filmed a good few years back and the princess was Diana who died in a car accident, so if your Welsh then you really dont know much about the place.
The mother - talk about passive aggression. No one should ever dump their frustrations on their kids like that. The way she talked about the dad - so humiliating, especially with him listening. She comes across like those girls from the high school who laughed at the wolf idea.
A friend of mine used to cut herself too, but I think it was because she was depressed, although she never told me that she wasn't, I can tell that she was.
so much more complicated than that, you have to understand body reactions and chemistry. More openly talked about now, but has been a problem for so long, and widely misunderstood.
The figure skating is like a metaphor for her cutting. I love the subliminal message.
How is it a metaphor
I've been searching for this film for 7 years, I've remebered everything about it except for the name and now found it by chance. I love it and it made a great impact on me. Thank you a million times for putting it up.
Also the mother is horrible...
I bet Dawn's mother was just like Rebecca in school....
The mother is played by actress Sean Young and a lot of people find that's she's irritating. She's perfect for this role..."ice cold."
This book/movie is by Steven Levenkron, Ph.D. (he treated Karen Carpenter). He also wrote The Best Little Girl in the World.
This is such a powerful film. The act of cutting is not often brought up, but it is a very serious and very deadly issue that needs to be addressed. Each character portrayed their roles beautifully. I only wish that if someone sees this movie and is a cutter or knows someone who ... read moreis cutting that they will learn that this issue is no joke
The therapist is played by actress Rhea Perlman (Cheers) and she's the ideal therapist. Having an office inside a mall is a great location. It's genius and also show's she cares. Where do teens "usually" love to go...the mall. Too bad therapists in the real word don't think of this. The book is called, “The luckiest girl in the world!” by Steven Levenkron.
The opening scene showing her ice skating is symbolic with cutting/self-injury. The blades on her ice skates cuts into the ice.
this is the second time i am watching this and I absolutely love it, its helping me
Thank you so much for posting this movie it is my favorite and I have been waiting for someone to post it forever.
@blue1bubbles I have been cut for 3 years. On arms, wrists, legs, stomach... My parents don't know it even though we are very close. It IS possible for parents -to be blind. And... you're right with this 'full time job'. It's really hard to hide scars and pretend you're ok but after some months... years, you become the best actor ever.
thank you sooooooooo much for posting this movie!!!! I wanted to see this for sooo many years now.., I can finally see it now because of you!!! so thank you sooo wery much!!!
love lili
When she called her a freak she should've said thank you.
Oh my god! I saw this years back, before going into hospital for cutting, and I have never been able to catch it again! I am soooo happy!
sometimes i think some parents have no concept of just how painful it is to hear one parent critisizing the other and yo have to sit there and listen
Thank you for posting this. I've been looking for it for ages!
Why dont movies like this ever show girls with a ton of friends who self harm... they arent always lovely girls with no friends
Yes, why?!
I love Dawn's (spelling?) idea in the beginning!!! I love wolves! They are such beautiful creatures and people shouldn't be scared or hate them.
The mom looks EXACTLY like my science teacher would've looked 10 years ago.
I remember when I first saw this on TV, and I thought she was constantly arching her eyebrow on purpose. About halfway through, I realized that's just how they were. Creepy stuff.
ya, and it also depends how sensitive person is and self confidant...but not many teenagers are strong to avoid consults from other kids at this age. honestly, i hated highschool cause i was different from other girls, just because i didnt want to be clone. but i didnt have on my mind to hurt myself, but i waited and tried to become better than them, and show them "who's the boss now", now after 8 years, i did show them who i really am and how lame they where and stayed that way.
I just stopped cutting last year and beating myself up early this year (no thanks to my therapist at all, she only made matters worse and I'd just go and hurt myself even more) and I'm proud of myself, because for so long I believed I would never be able to break the cycle and yet here I am today self harm free.
Anyone can stop hurting themselves, it may take time and some hard work and effot, you will have relapses but eventually if you stick to it you'll get there. YOU CAN STOP IT!!!
I remember this movie I think it showed on Lifetime once or twice
love the reference to Princess Diana, wonderful woman and fellow self injurer
thanks for adding that warning about triggering... when I was 13 I read an article about this in a magazine, and tried it from reading that.
Yes! And also the girls aren't always friendless - sometimes the most "popular" people who seem happiest do it, too.
You wont understand unless you've done it...but it requires a person to be in a dark, sad, angry state of mind to want to do it. It may be a good thing that you don't want to understand. No one should have to feel like they need to hurt themselves. Even if you don't get it though, being there for her is the best thing you can do. Its common for people to relapse. Just don't get upset or angry with her. Sounds like you're a great friend.
amazing movie. I have seen atleast 10 times. Beautiful music, amazing direction
I love this movie! Thanks for posting it!
I wish a self injury movie would cover hitting, burning, pulling hair, etc. also...
I SOOOO love the eyebrow thing!!
i think this is a great movie :)
People do that. I used to sit there and rock back and forth because I was upset. It calmed me.
@blue1bubbles Parents usually don't know because people that cut themselves have learned how to hide it easily. Sometimes the parents are usually too busy to notice and that's one of the factors that lead to cutting. Not all people wear long sleeves for it; there are obviously different parts of your body you can cut. Sure, it can seem like a ful time job keeping cutting a secret, but sometimes it's not that hard and it can become the center of your life at the time, so it doesn't seem that hard
jeez, that mom uses any chance she gets to insult the father.
they need a movie where the parents are normal, the kid isnt a freak. yet somehow she just gets depressed/cuts. they need a more relatable movie
"scarification", & it's considered an art form for those who do it as they don't just make random slashes.
I LOVE HER EYEBROW. ive been looking for this movie for sooo long
I used to be a SI'er. Its very easy to continue to hurt yourself, even in situations that aren't that horrible! I thank Yahwea, though, for helping me to understand that hurting myself wasn't fixing my problems. Don't get me wrong, I can still feel the tearing of my skin and how euphoric it was in my time of "need." That, unfortunately, never goes away.
You are awesome. I love this movie! ...And my old VHS tape is starting to wear... ^___^
I was a cutter. And let me tell you, I would give the world to have my beautiful clear arms again.
this isn't even like.. a movie? it's so depressing and the acting is just... unmentionable.
Yeah because they'd tailor an entire dance around one girl...so realistic.
Whenever I see Dawn and her family (especially the mother) I think of that Evanescence song, "Everybody's Fool" because they portray themselves as almost "perfect" but because of Dawn's self-harming, they are exposed as not so perfect and that they have hid their flaws for too long.
I read the book. It was good. Thank you for posting this, now I can see if the movie and book are similar.
As for the body being ugly; that's a matter of opinion. I have scars on my both, and my boyfriend happens to like them. Some people are able to love people for who they are, even if they may have perfections such as scars, pimples, etc. You may think scars are ugly, but that's not a opinion that is shared by everyone.
aaw I found it triggering the first time I ever watched it -then, eventually, a little stronger, I watched it and found it to be a help.
No, it goes by both titles. On Lifetime Channel I saw it as "Secret Cutting". The person who posted this movie up even says it is also named "Secret Cutting".
i had the same problem tried anything to hurt myself and now im better and it was all because i just kept myself postitive and worked my best and even if its not ur best u r still being good just no pushing ur self to those limits anymore
I remember the days of hiding in the bathroom like that...a lot of people go threw this sorta thing, no one is proud of it. I'm lucky I overcame it on my own. No one should be ashamed of it.
Those bitchs at the beginning!!!! UGH! That poor girl, that wolf idea was epic.
@xmisogyny If someone self injures, it doesn't make them "crazy" or "mental." They're going through issues and many don't know how to talk about it or don't feel like they can.
I remember i saw this on tv years ago and thought about it many times since then..randomness brought me here and now it finally found this film title hehe :)
Thanks for the upload in good quality as well! This movie is ... just O_o
there are a good bit of movies dealing with disorders of this type. you just need to look for them if you really want to see them.
@blue1bubbles It's amazing what parents will ignore. I never tried to cover up my cuts or scars and some of them were horrible. I just always had some stupid excuse for how I got them "I cut it on a fence... i fell in the shower..." still my parents had no idea until I was hospitalized.
i've never seen a movie about this kind of disorder.
one reason why the movie is quite dramatic may be because in the book this is based on by Steven Levenkron, the girl is not in any way an 'average' or 'standard' type (whatever that is).
Shes a championship skater, has suffered extensive physical abuse, and when she cuts she completely dissociates. she also has manic episodes. suggesting she also May also have a severe personality disorder.
i love it too ruby :)
really nice movie. watched it over 3 times
everyone stop commenting about her eyebrow!!! its getting irritating!! when your stressed or angry your body raises an eyebrow!! its stress related!! its not her fault!!
Triggering means, it may cause a negative reaction or "trigger" a memory and feeling. Which means it may bring these memories or feelings back or to you. If someone is watching this movie, and is going through a self-harm addiction, then it may trigger them to relapse.
i love this movie.. last time i watched it was in november, so i'm watching it again.
i dont know if theres more like this, but i love movies like this (such as perfect body, odd girl out, thirteen, a secret between friends, for the love of nancy, sharing the secret, etc.)
i'm not sure if they all have the same producers but they seem related somehow.
I think what they mean is that it's distracting because it's unusual
Can't believe Kimberlee (Dawn) was 20 years old when this movie was made... she looks much younger. A really good actress.
lmao even the dad was like stfu to the mom
I like how everyone around her is always cutting something.
Ah, I remember when this came on USA a long while back. Thanks for uploading!
This is an excellent movie about self injury. Of times, eating disorders and self injury go hand in hand. Shae050, Thank you for uploading. Take care
2:26- 2:34. The refrence to Princess Diana is very relevant because she had admitted to self injuring. I wonder what Rebecca would say if she found out that the person she admires did the same thing that she ridicules Dawn for doing.
@SkyMeetsLand You're right no one should feel ashamed of it. How did you overcome S.I. on your own?
I may not be as dramatic when it comes to me personally...but i can still relate..
Whoa, that mom definitely gives TMI!
thankyou so much for sharing this i've been looking everywhere to buy it :)
I use to cut myself two years ago from all the stress and felt unwanted. But it's true what a commenter said before it takes a lot of strength and self willingness to completely stop. To be honest the thought gets into my head when something makes me said or a little depressed but I push it out of my mind. And like another person said there are ointments to make the scars smooth and not visible . Most of the ones in my arm are all gone and some you really have to be staring at my arm to find t
the fact of the matter is a decent amount of people know i do, the real problem for people who cut is not those who ridicule them for doing it but reconciling that they will be seen as different for doing it, yes they have issues, but that is the reason they cut, that should not lead to another reason for them to dip deeper into the depressive chasms of ones own inner thoughts.
Dawn has the prettiest green eyes I've EVER seen.
blimey people... pick out all of her faults why dont you, thats the sort of thing that leads to low self esteem & cutting!
brilliant film, influenced my media project no end!!! thanks =)
@stacks6969allday
Self harm is a coping mechanism, and obviously coping mechanisms do not solve problems. The point of any coping mechanism is to help the person to deal with their emotions. People usually turn to self harm when nothing else works, such as in time of stress. When people are in stress, they may not be thinking clearly. Also, self harm does release endorphins, which is why a lot of people who cut, burn, hit, etc. report feeling high, calm, numb, etc.
You poor thing...the mom gets help from the passive dad.
God, that moment with Dawn's mom describing sex between her and Dawn's father couldnt NOT have been more awkward. . .O_o if I had been Dawn I would've stuck my fingers in my ears and started shouting "La, la, la, la, la. . . I cant hear you!!!" I'm SO thankful my mom isnt like that. . .my mom is really cool actually (most of the time)
I love when the mom comments "the sex is ummm, but I hoped it would get better". OMG, she is so cut throat to the dad. Did anyone else laugh at that part? The poor kid.
Gasp! I can't watch this! I just got over this addiction and its too triggering. I thought this would be about something else.
Question: is the book that this is based on also called "painful secrets?" I tried to find it on amazon but it wasn't there...
true! and is it not possible for a girl with so many friends to still feel depressed and empty?
When you get to 10th grade, people really aren't that bad. There's a trend you see in schools these days where once a grade hits a certain age, say when they go into the 10th or 9th grade, people drop out of the hierarchy system and everybody becomes friends because they're mature enough to see past all the bullshit. Movies depict an unrealistic picture of what High school is like for younger people.
The joy of siblings.
or for people who already do this or are recovering it can be "triggering" or make them want to do it again or like a temptation if that makes sense.
there's always one of those in movies like these
omg I've been looking for this 4 so long
"Dawn, I'm trying to be open with you.." --STOP TRYIN' WOMAN!
not always true... i never has any friends when i was younger, but as i went through senior school i developed tight friendships with a close group of friends i was cutting. i started when i was 12, and im almost 18 and even now when life seems good i still cant stop. there's just emptiness inside.
Remember that this was filmed a good few years back and the princess was Diana who died in a car accident, so if your Welsh then you really dont know much about the place.
yes, this is based on his other book 'the luckiest little girl in the world'. Similar format, different issue :)
damnnnn her mom just dissed the dad in the worst way possible....poor guy :(
@diagonal5 It's based on a book called "The Luckiest Girl In The World" by Steven Levenkron. :)
The mother - talk about passive aggression. No one should ever dump their frustrations on their kids like that. The way she talked about the dad - so humiliating, especially with him listening. She comes across like those girls from the high school who laughed at the wolf idea.
A friend of mine used to cut herself too, but I think it was because she was depressed, although she never told me that she wasn't, I can tell that she was.
Aw, I was just trying to find this movie and I gave up and started watching something else and this came up in the side bar, yay ^.^
i love this movie
so much more complicated than that, you have to understand body reactions and chemistry. More openly talked about now, but has been a problem for so long, and widely misunderstood.
i friggin love this movie, this is my 6th time watching this movie!! i appsolutly love it! (:
Einhorn is Finkle, Finkle is Einhorn! Einhorn is a man!
hi maddieeannn thank you for sharing. i just started doing this. only once. i dont want it to become a habit, so again, ty.