Just some quick tips to fill in about the myth about Taisui's curse. So I actually did a quick search about Taiping Guangzhi and found several stories about it, including the one mentioned at 6:16 , the source material actually did mention that the family had 72 people and most of them died, while one young boy was helped by the families' "brother" (cousins who are not directly related maybe?) and survived. However, when the family found the Shirou, they actually did not try to keep it or build a basement, instead they attempted to whip it for a few hundred times (because they are told that doing so can remove the curse), only to fail because the Shirou itself flew away mid the process. There are a few other stories about Taisui in the literature, and they basically means when planning the buildings, some places or positions are called Taisui place in Fengshui and it's considered forbidden to dig or build on the place. Doing so and finding a Shirou is not only a warning that you should stop, but also a sign that you have awaken the curse and disaster will almost inevitably descend on you. One interesting fact is the Japanese name of Taisui Xingjun's NP Taisui Awaken is "太歳頭上動土", it literally means "to move dirt (implies digging or building) above Taisui", and is a Chinese slung to comment on somebody recklessly or intentionally get themselves in trouble.
Also the whipping method was not completely nonsense, the literature included another story about a powerful man who does not believe myths intentionally digged at the Taisui place, found the Shirou, whipped it a few hundred times and threw it away. Nothing happened to this man or his family. Some bored guys decided to go visit the threw away Shirou and ask it why, and it answered that the man was so powerful it couldn't do anything to him. The family being suggested to whip the Shirou they found is very likely a reference to this story.
Taisui has stated a couple times while in their younger form that they are kind of afraid of using their older form, hinting that they wouldn't be able to control their powers as as a god of misfortune to not also affect the Master of Chaldea and their allies
moon cancers either are associated with the moon, or the moon cell to my knowledge, and pretenders are servants who pretend to be someone else, not like an alter ego
@@madambutterfly1997 Jinako was made a pseudoservant by BB so she could see Karna again, Kiara was modified by the power of summer, and Arcuied is both Non-Cannon and not actually a Mooncancer. Her true class is Funny Vamp. Essentially, BB and Jinako are the only cannon Mooncancers.
The fact he got a grade of "A" with just his design and connections alone, imagine if he actually had proper screen time. Also, I imagine that everytime his curse dmg activates it's just a swarm of Cons simultaneously hitting the enemy, and once the target is dead they just swarm tp the next poor victim.
Yeah... I feel really shaky about this one. It's why I mentioned at the end that Taisui getting another big story/event appearance could completely change this.
I have to give you credit for willingly looking into Sexagenary Cycle, and explain it quite clearly. I always thought this thing common in Chinese culture would be nothing but gibberish for foreigners. I think Taisui is a good pick as a diety servant, like, even in today, people in my country light ceremonial light for Taisui in hope for a better year (when they find their zodiac sign is facing against Taisui this year.)
4:16 this information made me imagine that the boy Kiritsugu Emiya saved, didn't say his real name. The boy wanted to say "Shìròu" (Feng), instead he said "Shirou," a Japanese name.
Excellent video. Taisui Xingjun as a concept is kinda hard to wrap my head around and you helped clear it up. i have one complaint I need to bring up. you were saying his name wrong. it's actually pronounced 'Lambda's son'. hope that helps in the future. p.s looking foward to the siegfried and eventual nezha videos. p.ss Melt's son is also an acceptable pronunciation.
Thank you for researching Taisui Xingjun and making a video about him! I feel the pain of trying to find resources on servants that don't have much documentation on the English speaking internet. So, I'm grateful for these videos that go more in depth on what these historical/mythological figures are like, compared to their Fate versions. I love learning more about history and mythology, and these videos help with learning more about it!
i adore this taisui! he’s so fun and i think he’s doing interesting things as far as the interpretation of primary sources go. in the vein of future interaction, i want to see him and baobhan- especially the later-appearing summer baobhan. buried meat landmass curse gods have to stick together!! and it seems like morgan’s got a pseudo-maternal relationship with chaldea’s taisui, too :0
Good video. Regarding your concerns about future story appearance, most welfare servants that arent just a different class (berserker to rider Kintoki) typically dont appear outside of their event. Since the event was their focus, thats about it. They can appear on the sidelines at times of another event, but will mostly be left untouched unless the right situation appears for them. An example is the welfare Erice showing up a little bit in the valentines event that featured Caren. Of course, Erice is a fate OC who stars in fate requiem (despite the series hardly moving since the first volume in 2018). Sieg and Chloe also appeared in several interludes and events outside of their debut event, i imagine for similar reasons to Erice. So the popularity of the welfare definitely matters, be it that they are from other fate works or just really hit it off with the community to an unprecedented degree. In Xingjun case, they werent the focus of their debut event, it was the Trung sisters. That in itself isnt bad since the Trung sisters are the 5* limited unit of the event, so they should get a lot of screen time to make players want to roll for them more. Yet it was still weird since i had no idea when the welfare was suppose the show up despite knowing the event having one. You could say all the Kon would count since they are then used as the hive mind to create Xingjun, so all of our experiences with the Kon can be associated to Xingjun. Yet that is still a bit unsatisfying, as it would have been great too see more of that character specifically and how they are as an adult.
great video as always. its realy interesting to learn aboute characters who are obscure or hard to understand, like for me europian or japanese characters are easy to understand by their popularity or my interest in them but chinese are hard
I'm so mad I was too busy with school to complete the event. I fully unlocked Taisui and NP5'd him, but completely blanked and didn't get any of his ascension materials
the name origin of east Asian wars was a nice fun fact, that their names are the Chinese year they occurred. much like how some European wars could be named based on the year they occurred. Much like ww1 could have been called "the 1914 war" or "the Great War" before 1939 rolled around.
So not a huge eastern myth guy but I do a little about a different Xing. I don't think this one is mentioned as I don't play the game but enjoy learning about myths but Xing Tian is a figure I quite enjoyed learning about (although admittedly it's hard to research as English sources are like finding a golden nugget down a drain pipe). Basically he's a god that ends up with his face on his chest. His nipples are eyes and bellybutton his mouth. He got his head cut off and buried beneath a mountain after losing a fight for supremacy against the god Huangdi although even losing his head he is still continuing his fight (I assume to this day and beyond). I guess he's partly supposed to be like the Chinese version of Hercules, as in he represents the indominable will to keep fighting. Gets really odd when in a different source he's described as being minister and a poet that writes for farmers. Not sure how those two things line up but hey it's mythology, shit gets wild.
I agree alter egos are hard to understand but I never understood foreigner as well. Lots of characters fulfil that role but there's tons that just ignores it and goes for the different servant types.
I'll address that when its time to do a Foreigner servant. Actually? There are two in particular that I've been wanting to do: Hokusai and Van Gogh. Edit: When Imaginary Scramble becomes a main interlude? That may be a good time to do them. :o
Foreigner is just anything beyond Earth. This is a couple of categories: 1) Outer Gods (Hokusai, Van Gogh, etc.) 2) Space (Wandjina, Kukulkan, Voyager, etc.) 3) Servant Universe (MHXX)
@@adrastos8401 but characters like Arthur isn't from this world as well. He's my main "why he isn't a foreigner" problem. He is from outer world. Which has no connection to our own. He just jumps from other worlds. Yet he's a saber. I know he qualifies as saber but I think that's a missed opportunity.
@@kaneshigo He is from the same world, just a different version of it. He is still from Earth. Same reason as Musashi doesn't count. They never leave Earth, they just go to different versions. Additionally, just because you qualify for a class, doesn't mean you only qualify for that class. Which explains the other Servant Universe characters.
Yeah keep it simplify. Since some can't read any Chinese text or some regions of any local spoken in China. All other written language of other two countries come from ancient China, their customs, religion, traditions, and culture until they had there own written language like Korea and Japan.
I do wish we got his adult form as a costume, I don't really care much for his chibi form even though I understand why it's that way. His design is great as it feels both earthly yet alien especially with the colours, if I didn't know any better I would have thought he was a Foreigner class servant with his design and NP animation alone.
The thing about the Shirou being shi-yo is interesring, as a Chinese person, the words are pronounced shi-rou but shi isnt like Shirou's but more like "shr" Chinese is weird
@@CrazyYurie yea, understandable, I just had a look at the word's pingyin, pingyin is a good way to know how to pronounce mandarin words, at least, in the modern era, I may be Chinese but my mandarin isnt very good so I could be wrong
It is a tone based language too and the name of the skill is completly correct to the pingyin of the word itself, with the tones being indicated on the words being right, so I think it's probably shìròu but it could be different in old China
It’s hard to do it because there’s only 1 playable beast class servant (I specified beast class because we do have playable beasts) but the problem is that most beasts are either type moon originals or basically entire new characters using an existing godly figure, in my opinion the ones that are most similar to their original counterparts are Kama and Tiamat, Tiamat based on skill set and Kama on characterization
He DOES actually appear in another event story, that being the Wandjina World Tour event. So that's something to look forward to.
Hooray!
Just some quick tips to fill in about the myth about Taisui's curse.
So I actually did a quick search about Taiping Guangzhi and found several stories about it, including the one mentioned at 6:16 , the source material actually did mention that the family had 72 people and most of them died, while one young boy was helped by the families' "brother" (cousins who are not directly related maybe?) and survived. However, when the family found the Shirou, they actually did not try to keep it or build a basement, instead they attempted to whip it for a few hundred times (because they are told that doing so can remove the curse), only to fail because the Shirou itself flew away mid the process.
There are a few other stories about Taisui in the literature, and they basically means when planning the buildings, some places or positions are called Taisui place in Fengshui and it's considered forbidden to dig or build on the place. Doing so and finding a Shirou is not only a warning that you should stop, but also a sign that you have awaken the curse and disaster will almost inevitably descend on you.
One interesting fact is the Japanese name of Taisui Xingjun's NP Taisui Awaken is "太歳頭上動土", it literally means "to move dirt (implies digging or building) above Taisui", and is a Chinese slung to comment on somebody recklessly or intentionally get themselves in trouble.
Also the whipping method was not completely nonsense, the literature included another story about a powerful man who does not believe myths intentionally digged at the Taisui place, found the Shirou, whipped it a few hundred times and threw it away.
Nothing happened to this man or his family. Some bored guys decided to go visit the threw away Shirou and ask it why, and it answered that the man was so powerful it couldn't do anything to him.
The family being suggested to whip the Shirou they found is very likely a reference to this story.
Taisui has stated a couple times while in their younger form that they are kind of afraid of using their older form, hinting that they wouldn't be able to control their powers as as a god of misfortune to not also affect the Master of Chaldea and their allies
for me the pretender class and moon cancer class are the most difficult classes to understand
moon cancers either are associated with the moon, or the moon cell to my knowledge, and pretenders are servants who pretend to be someone else, not like an alter ego
There are two ways to qualify as a Mooncancer.
1. You are BB.
2. BB is messing with you.
It's essentially BB's personal class.
@@Peashooter521 then explain the three other servants occupying that class
@@Peashooter521 Arcuied has zero connection to BB
@@madambutterfly1997 Jinako was made a pseudoservant by BB so she could see Karna again, Kiara was modified by the power of summer, and Arcuied is both Non-Cannon and not actually a Mooncancer. Her true class is Funny Vamp. Essentially, BB and Jinako are the only cannon Mooncancers.
The fact he got a grade of "A" with just his design and connections alone, imagine if he actually had proper screen time. Also, I imagine that everytime his curse dmg activates it's just a swarm of Cons simultaneously hitting the enemy, and once the target is dead they just swarm tp the next poor victim.
Yeah... I feel really shaky about this one. It's why I mentioned at the end that Taisui getting another big story/event appearance could completely change this.
I have to give you credit for willingly looking into Sexagenary Cycle, and explain it quite clearly. I always thought this thing common in Chinese culture would be nothing but gibberish for foreigners.
I think Taisui is a good pick as a diety servant, like, even in today, people in my country light ceremonial light for Taisui in hope for a better year (when they find their zodiac sign is facing against Taisui this year.)
It wasn't easy, but I did manage to make at least some sense of it. XD
I cant believe our adorable amalgamation of Kons are actually a very very scary nightmarish Chinese old god
4:16 this information made me imagine that the boy Kiritsugu Emiya saved, didn't say his real name. The boy wanted to say "Shìròu" (Feng), instead he said "Shirou," a Japanese name.
Does this mean Shirou is actually a flesh monster?!?
I love Taisui, kinda wish he wasn’t a welfare so his adult version was his 3rd ascension, but hey, I love him like a son nonetheless :D
I’m proud to have reached the point where I can predict the grades of each character correctly before they’re said
Wha? I must become less predicable somehow! XD
Excellent video. Taisui Xingjun as a concept is kinda hard to wrap my head around and you helped clear it up.
i have one complaint I need to bring up.
you were saying his name wrong. it's actually pronounced 'Lambda's son'. hope that helps in the future.
p.s looking foward to the siegfried and eventual nezha videos.
p.ss Melt's son is also an acceptable pronunciation.
Har har. :P
Thank you for researching Taisui Xingjun and making a video about him!
I feel the pain of trying to find resources on servants that don't have much documentation on the English speaking internet.
So, I'm grateful for these videos that go more in depth on what these historical/mythological figures are like, compared to their Fate versions.
I love learning more about history and mythology, and these videos help with learning more about it!
i adore this taisui! he’s so fun and i think he’s doing interesting things as far as the interpretation of primary sources go. in the vein of future interaction, i want to see him and baobhan- especially the later-appearing summer baobhan. buried meat landmass curse gods have to stick together!! and it seems like morgan’s got a pseudo-maternal relationship with chaldea’s taisui, too :0
Good video. Regarding your concerns about future story appearance, most welfare servants that arent just a different class (berserker to rider Kintoki) typically dont appear outside of their event. Since the event was their focus, thats about it. They can appear on the sidelines at times of another event, but will mostly be left untouched unless the right situation appears for them. An example is the welfare Erice showing up a little bit in the valentines event that featured Caren. Of course, Erice is a fate OC who stars in fate requiem (despite the series hardly moving since the first volume in 2018). Sieg and Chloe also appeared in several interludes and events outside of their debut event, i imagine for similar reasons to Erice.
So the popularity of the welfare definitely matters, be it that they are from other fate works or just really hit it off with the community to an unprecedented degree. In Xingjun case, they werent the focus of their debut event, it was the Trung sisters. That in itself isnt bad since the Trung sisters are the 5* limited unit of the event, so they should get a lot of screen time to make players want to roll for them more. Yet it was still weird since i had no idea when the welfare was suppose the show up despite knowing the event having one. You could say all the Kon would count since they are then used as the hive mind to create Xingjun, so all of our experiences with the Kon can be associated to Xingjun. Yet that is still a bit unsatisfying, as it would have been great too see more of that character specifically and how they are as an adult.
great video as always. its realy interesting to learn aboute characters who are obscure or hard to understand, like for me europian or japanese characters are easy to understand by their popularity or my interest in them but chinese are hard
I'm so mad I was too busy with school to complete the event. I fully unlocked Taisui and NP5'd him, but completely blanked and didn't get any of his ascension materials
Ouch
Ohh no man that sucks
the name origin of east Asian wars was a nice fun fact, that their names are the Chinese year they occurred. much like how some European wars could be named based on the year they occurred. Much like ww1 could have been called "the 1914 war" or "the Great War" before 1939 rolled around.
Your pronunciations were great 🍡 and all the your research always fascinates me
So not a huge eastern myth guy but I do a little about a different Xing. I don't think this one is mentioned as I don't play the game but enjoy learning about myths but Xing Tian is a figure I quite enjoyed learning about (although admittedly it's hard to research as English sources are like finding a golden nugget down a drain pipe). Basically he's a god that ends up with his face on his chest. His nipples are eyes and bellybutton his mouth. He got his head cut off and buried beneath a mountain after losing a fight for supremacy against the god Huangdi although even losing his head he is still continuing his fight (I assume to this day and beyond). I guess he's partly supposed to be like the Chinese version of Hercules, as in he represents the indominable will to keep fighting. Gets really odd when in a different source he's described as being minister and a poet that writes for farmers. Not sure how those two things line up but hey it's mythology, shit gets wild.
I agree alter egos are hard to understand but I never understood foreigner as well. Lots of characters fulfil that role but there's tons that just ignores it and goes for the different servant types.
I'll address that when its time to do a Foreigner servant. Actually? There are two in particular that I've been wanting to do: Hokusai and Van Gogh.
Edit: When Imaginary Scramble becomes a main interlude? That may be a good time to do them. :o
Foreigner is just anything beyond Earth.
This is a couple of categories:
1) Outer Gods (Hokusai, Van Gogh, etc.)
2) Space (Wandjina, Kukulkan, Voyager, etc.)
3) Servant Universe (MHXX)
@@CrazyYurie I can't wait for it. But I will hold my wait for the traum videos. I'm especially interested in Constantine XI
@@adrastos8401 but characters like Arthur isn't from this world as well. He's my main "why he isn't a foreigner" problem. He is from outer world. Which has no connection to our own. He just jumps from other worlds. Yet he's a saber. I know he qualifies as saber but I think that's a missed opportunity.
@@kaneshigo He is from the same world, just a different version of it. He is still from Earth.
Same reason as Musashi doesn't count. They never leave Earth, they just go to different versions.
Additionally, just because you qualify for a class, doesn't mean you only qualify for that class. Which explains the other Servant Universe characters.
Nice video as usal
Yeah keep it simplify. Since some can't read any Chinese text or some regions of any local spoken in China. All other written language of other two countries come from ancient China, their customs, religion, traditions, and culture until they had there own written language like Korea and Japan.
she looks like straight from pokemon
He, and yes he was drawn by an artist from Pokemon
I do wish we got his adult form as a costume, I don't really care much for his chibi form even though I understand why it's that way. His design is great as it feels both earthly yet alien especially with the colours, if I didn't know any better I would have thought he was a Foreigner class servant with his design and NP animation alone.
I think that giant orb might be Jupiter.
I wish high servant had effects. Also summer sitonai when? (Also santa sitonai )
The thing about the Shirou being shi-yo is interesring, as a Chinese person, the words are pronounced shi-rou but shi isnt like Shirou's but more like "shr" Chinese is weird
It was what I found. I don't know Mandarin, so I have to rely on what I can find. x_x
@@CrazyYurie yea, understandable, I just had a look at the word's pingyin, pingyin is a good way to know how to pronounce mandarin words, at least, in the modern era, I may be Chinese but my mandarin isnt very good so I could be wrong
It is a tone based language too and the name of the skill is completly correct to the pingyin of the word itself, with the tones being indicated on the words being right, so I think it's probably shìròu but it could be different in old China
By the way when will you do beast class servant though?
It’s hard to do it because there’s only 1 playable beast class servant (I specified beast class because we do have playable beasts) but the problem is that most beasts are either type moon originals or basically entire new characters using an existing godly figure, in my opinion the ones that are most similar to their original counterparts are Kama and Tiamat, Tiamat based on skill set and Kama on characterization
There's a long list of people ahead, but I do plan to do at least some of the beasts like Goetia, Tiamat, and Mara.
How do we get these my room lines? Are they written down anywhere in the game?
You can interact with the character in My Room if you have them in Chaldea.
you said sun bathing, but she's corpse pale
*He
@luckluca8982 the art style threw me off
Hmm, so this is what I missed spamming the skip button during that event. Interesting
Hey, my boy Siegfried is coming next, nice