Great video, I echo the same recommendations you made and also recommend the HSD cargo 37 panniers as an alternative - they have plenty of space and don’t obstruct the foot pegs.
@@kandimba I have a couple sets of Ortliebs as well. I think because of the GSDs rectangular tubing I couldn’t get them to fit. Maybe I was being impatient though? I assume you have, but don’t use them too? I definitely took them bike camping once but I had to use a bungee to keep them on.
@@batterybikes That sucks. I'm looking to get a GSD but I'd really prefer sticking with ortlieb as they're super easy to take off and they just seem better than the ones sold by tern, which are also more expensive.
The back stand looks like it was intended for people with dense urban space limitations. I can imagine wiggling it into a closet, corner of a garage, foyer, behind an open door, third bike under a staircase, fitting into a short elevator, etc. This position might also make locking to some objects like pipes and rails more accessible. Thanks for the gear rundown.
Yeah true. I think for me I'd need some type of retaining strap against the wall before I'd let it stand. It's a cool idea I just haven't gotten much use out of it, but I'm always trying to one-wheel it out of the basement and it gets in the way. Thanks for watching man.
Great video, thank you. I have an HSD which is just for me as a one person cargo bike and I love it. And my desk is Ivar too and it has been for 25 years (although the design of it has evolved through six houses).
Hey thanks. Yeah if I was looking now I might do the same. I wish Tern made an HSD with a straight fork and a Bafang setup to be a bit cheaper. What fun. I switched from a big rolling desk to this hideaway in what used to just be shelves. They're perfect
Hi Andrew, actually yes. I’m also interested in know if I can attach a bike carrier as well - to a GSD Cargo ebike? I’d like to be able to take my 2 young grandchildren or my 2 small dogs in it.
@@soniatriana9091 Hey Sonia, I don't have any experience with using a bike carrier with my GSD, but I know many people have. Are you a member of the Tern GSD Facebook group? facebook.com/groups/ternGSD/ I'm sure someone has dealt with that there
Thanks for the info. I don’t do FB, but I can probably ask someone who does to look it up for me. I’m planning on asking the bike shop where I buy my ebike about wanting a bike carrier. Thanks for following up. I look forward to more videos from your channel. Take care!
Thank you for that video. I have used Arkel Panniers for years especially there shopping bag. You confirmed for me that I should just get extra Arkel Panniers but in 15mm-21mm clamps. Loved the use of pics and putting the cut outs into categories. Thanks.
Hey thanks Ashley. I had never heard of Arkel before, but those look great. I have a bunch of Ortliebs sitting around, but I couldn't get them to fit. I think it is a clamp issue but I got too frustrated to figure it out and now just keep one dumb GSD pannier on all the time. It's almost always enough space for my errands.
I have the full dog house, but haven’t tried training my two miniature poodles to ride back there yet, but I love it for grocery shopping and it even fits a large pizza box. I carry 3 different locks in there as well. It’s a necessity for me.
Thank you for your video!! I was wondering about the equipment as well 😬 and also about the vertikal parking option...if I ever get a Tern GSD, I probably won’t be able to use this option, but I really love the opportunities that they give to use this bike :)
Been considering a GSD. This is a really helpful video. Good to know about details like the annoying Velcro on the panniers, and the vertical stand issue. Which seemed like a dangerous gimmick to me. Unless one really needed to store the bike that way and one had some form of top anchor/support.
Hey kind of an old video but thanks for watching David. I do actually use the vertical stand a lot, but it still drives me nuts every time I have to get it over a curb or little bump. My storage unit has many and it's a pain. I'm going to get a lighter and more svelte second bike for when I'm not riding with my wife.
Great video I bought the 37L Tern panniers for my HSD and just didn’t like them for similar reasons. Hopefully the Thule panniers I have bought will be better
@@batterybikes I’m really pleased with my Thule panniers now. At first I had some concerns thinking they would not fit properly but they do. They look right in my opinion with great quality.
I agree with all the ideas and comments in the video. The bike Tern HSD is great and well thought through. Not so fo the asseccories. They need to be made so you can take them off and put them on without tools. This can be achieved for the short tray, the 37 Panniers, and the front rack. Can I send the pictures to anyone?
Hey Hans thanks much. I think Tern is one of the best for accessories, if you compare them to something like Rad or other online-only places that just sell off the shelf stuff, but they definitely have room for improvement. These photos might be a good candidate for the Tern GSD reddit or Facebook group. facebook.com/groups/ternGSD
Thanks for watching. Yeah I love how the bike can transform to different uses. But doesn't need to be loaded to the gills all at once. More GSD vids on the way!
why would they use velcros! so dumb. My bontrager bags have these clip quick connect things and ive never had an issue. my rear pegs are really a show piece. Ive found ways to store it under an outdoor stairwell with the ABUS sound lock and if you were to even touch the bike it rattles the lock and sounds the alarm. Although... One of my pegs fell out from all the friction and use. They are cheap lil plastic plugs. A lot of the bike can be disappointing with how much you spend on it.
Yes - thought the HSD seems a bit more geared toward hauling kids around. Kids may value stability and having something to grab or step onto a bit more than an adult
The perspective I have on my GSD is that I basically want a stealth cargobike. Most of the time, 90%, I just want it to behave like a normal bike. The last 10% when I have another passenger, usually my wife, I'm fine if it's not quite as luxurious. So I'm sure the folding platforms make make carrying more gear or people a little more luxurious, but I just do that so in-often that it's not worth it for me.
another reason to get a family, now go tell a lovely lady that you have a cargo bike tailored towards a family and tell them that you are lacking one and needs a wife and preferably 2 kids to fully utilise the cargo bike, ask if she's in and happy to have kids to fill up some space on the bike, voila, you have a justified reason for having a beautifully built cargo bike. Tern should advertise even in the Family planning sector, advocating for having families and having 1 to 2 kids, and even link up marriage consultancies and introduce single parents to customers as an optional feature that comes with Tern bikes!
Ridiculous comment. Someone can't meet someone just through lack of luck. And not everyone wanting a family can have them! I was happy to see this video because it's so triggering as someone with childlessness grief to CONSTANTLY see these bikes referred to as family bikes as though everyone has a family. But here is the idiot again assuming everyone lives the same life. Not everyone is so lucky and why constantly make people feel bad for not being able to have what you have? Also, not everyone even WANTS a family or is meant to have one. I bet you're some Bible bashing American who just has no idea how to think outside of the box and thinks there's only one way to live. There isn't.
Great video, I echo the same recommendations you made and also recommend the HSD cargo 37 panniers as an alternative - they have plenty of space and don’t obstruct the foot pegs.
Hey thanks! I wish they offered something that was snap on/snap off but in the meantime I want to try those out pretty bad.
@@batterybikes Isn't it possible to use Ortlieb panniers? I have the back roller plus and they're huge and awesome.
@@kandimba I have a couple sets of Ortliebs as well. I think because of the GSDs rectangular tubing I couldn’t get them to fit. Maybe I was being impatient though? I assume you have, but don’t use them too? I definitely took them bike camping once but I had to use a bungee to keep them on.
@@batterybikes That sucks. I'm looking to get a GSD but I'd really prefer sticking with ortlieb as they're super easy to take off and they just seem better than the ones sold by tern, which are also more expensive.
@@kandimba It's been so long. Let me try and get them back on later today. I could have just been young and impatient
The back stand looks like it was intended for people with dense urban space limitations. I can imagine wiggling it into a closet, corner of a garage, foyer, behind an open door, third bike under a staircase, fitting into a short elevator, etc. This position might also make locking to some objects like pipes and rails more accessible. Thanks for the gear rundown.
Yeah true. I think for me I'd need some type of retaining strap against the wall before I'd let it stand. It's a cool idea I just haven't gotten much use out of it, but I'm always trying to one-wheel it out of the basement and it gets in the way. Thanks for watching man.
Great to hear real world use from long term users! Really appreciate the straight to the point nature of your vid, cheers!
thanks man! say hi if you see me in SF
Great video, thank you. I have an HSD which is just for me as a one person cargo bike and I love it.
And my desk is Ivar too and it has been for 25 years (although the design of it has evolved through six houses).
Hey thanks. Yeah if I was looking now I might do the same. I wish Tern made an HSD with a straight fork and a Bafang setup to be a bit cheaper. What fun. I switched from a big rolling desk to this hideaway in what used to just be shelves. They're perfect
This was extremely useful, and not just for the GSD! And also the video is very well made and edited. Keep them coming!
Your comment is useful to me! New video by the end of the week. Just a couple more tweaks. GPS tracker for the GSD. Consider a sub!
Thank you! This was great, to actually get the reasons why you think they belong in each of the categories you had! This was very helpful👍🏻👏🏻
Nice - Glad you found it helpful Sonia. More GSD videos on the way. Anything you want to see?
Hi Andrew, actually yes. I’m also interested in know if I can attach a bike carrier as well - to a GSD Cargo ebike? I’d like to be able to take my
2 young grandchildren or my 2 small dogs in it.
@@soniatriana9091 Hey Sonia, I don't have any experience with using a bike carrier with my GSD, but I know many people have. Are you a member of the Tern GSD Facebook group?
facebook.com/groups/ternGSD/
I'm sure someone has dealt with that there
Thanks for the info. I don’t do FB, but I can probably ask someone who does to look it up for me. I’m planning on asking the bike shop where I buy my ebike about wanting a bike carrier. Thanks for following up. I look forward to more videos from your channel. Take care!
@@soniatriana9091 Thanks! Found this as well - www.ternbicycles.com/no/support/kb/282638/how-tow-trailer-gsd
Post-Video Stealthy GSD: Foot pegs, cushy rear seat, one saggy big pannier. Hoping to get HSD panniers, new mini front rack if I can find a sale.
Thank you for that video. I have used Arkel Panniers for years especially there shopping bag. You confirmed for me that I should just get extra Arkel Panniers but in 15mm-21mm clamps. Loved the use of pics and putting the cut outs into categories. Thanks.
Hey thanks Ashley. I had never heard of Arkel before, but those look great. I have a bunch of Ortliebs sitting around, but I couldn't get them to fit. I think it is a clamp issue but I got too frustrated to figure it out and now just keep one dumb GSD pannier on all the time. It's almost always enough space for my errands.
I have the full dog house, but haven’t tried training my two miniature poodles to ride back there yet, but I love it for grocery shopping and it even fits a large pizza box. I carry 3 different locks in there as well. It’s a necessity for me.
Thank you for your video!! I was wondering about the equipment as well 😬 and also about the vertikal parking option...if I ever get a Tern GSD, I probably won’t be able to use this option, but I really love the opportunities that they give to use this bike :)
Thanks for watching hunt. It’s a great little bike
Been considering a GSD. This is a really helpful video. Good to know about details like the annoying Velcro on the panniers, and the vertical stand issue. Which seemed like a dangerous gimmick to me. Unless one really needed to store the bike that way and one had some form of top anchor/support.
Hey kind of an old video but thanks for watching David. I do actually use the vertical stand a lot, but it still drives me nuts every time I have to get it over a curb or little bump. My storage unit has many and it's a pain. I'm going to get a lighter and more svelte second bike for when I'm not riding with my wife.
The much needed review, thank you!
Glad it was helpful!
Really great video, so nice to be able to benefit from your experiences thank you.
Thanks a bunch for watching. Let me know if there’s anything else you’d like to see
Just so you know, the top of the line model (GSD R14) does have the ability charge a cell phone, from the usb-c port on the display unit
Great video I bought the 37L Tern panniers for my HSD and just didn’t like them for similar reasons. Hopefully the Thule panniers I have bought will be better
How have they worked out? I had some regular panniers that I loved but I couldn't get them to fit well on the GSD
@@batterybikes I’m really pleased with my Thule panniers now. At first I had some concerns thinking they would not fit properly but they do. They look right in my opinion with great quality.
Excellent informative vid
Thanks for watching Mark. Lemme know if there's other topics you want to see
I agree with all the ideas and comments in the video. The bike Tern HSD is great and well thought through. Not so fo the asseccories. They need to be made so you can take them off and put them on without tools. This can be achieved for the short tray, the 37 Panniers, and the front rack. Can I send the pictures to anyone?
Hey Hans thanks much. I think Tern is one of the best for accessories, if you compare them to something like Rad or other online-only places that just sell off the shelf stuff, but they definitely have room for improvement. These photos might be a good candidate for the Tern GSD reddit or Facebook group. facebook.com/groups/ternGSD
This video is great, thank you!! I wonder if the new panniers are an improvement
You're too kind! I think they have better functionality - but still aren't fast take on/off. I should really make more GSD videos
@@batterybikes please do 😊 makes such a difference when someone actually uses the stuff. No one has time for fiddly pannier bags!
Thanks! This is a very helpful video. Even for people with more than one to haul.
Thanks for watching. Yeah I love how the bike can transform to different uses. But doesn't need to be loaded to the gills all at once. More GSD vids on the way!
why would they use velcros! so dumb. My bontrager bags have these clip quick connect things and ive never had an issue.
my rear pegs are really a show piece. Ive found ways to store it under an outdoor stairwell with the ABUS sound lock and if you were to even touch the bike it rattles the lock and sounds the alarm.
Although... One of my pegs fell out from all the friction and use. They are cheap lil plastic plugs.
A lot of the bike can be disappointing with how much you spend on it.
Helpful info
Thanks for watching
Very helpful tips. I guess most of these are also applicable to the HSD?
Yes - thought the HSD seems a bit more geared toward hauling kids around. Kids may value stability and having something to grab or step onto a bit more than an adult
Would you get the new folding platforms
The perspective I have on my GSD is that I basically want a stealth cargobike. Most of the time, 90%, I just want it to behave like a normal bike. The last 10% when I have another passenger, usually my wife, I'm fine if it's not quite as luxurious. So I'm sure the folding platforms make make carrying more gear or people a little more luxurious, but I just do that so in-often that it's not worth it for me.
Which GSD version do you have?
This is a first gen S00
@@batterybikes Thanks!
another reason to get a family, now go tell a lovely lady that you have a cargo bike tailored towards a family and tell them that you are lacking one and needs a wife and preferably 2 kids to fully utilise the cargo bike, ask if she's in and happy to have kids to fill up some space on the bike, voila, you have a justified reason for having a beautifully built cargo bike. Tern should advertise even in the Family planning sector, advocating for having families and having 1 to 2 kids, and even link up marriage consultancies and introduce single parents to customers as an optional feature that comes with Tern bikes!
Engaged now so will be a bike dad in no time!
Ridiculous comment. Someone can't meet someone just through lack of luck. And not everyone wanting a family can have them! I was happy to see this video because it's so triggering as someone with childlessness grief to CONSTANTLY see these bikes referred to as family bikes as though everyone has a family. But here is the idiot again assuming everyone lives the same life. Not everyone is so lucky and why constantly make people feel bad for not being able to have what you have? Also, not everyone even WANTS a family or is meant to have one. I bet you're some Bible bashing American who just has no idea how to think outside of the box and thinks there's only one way to live. There isn't.
Get married and have some children!
Got married since the video! No kids yet - but I can't imagine it will be too long