The concept of this video reminds me of myself when I first started high school. Most conversations with other dudes made me want to turn off their voice boxes so they would shut up, but then I learned more about football so I could have SOMETHING to talk about. And then I realized that I actually really like it... mostly because it's very dumb, too complex, and insanely marketable (the last point mostly has to do with the American sports industry as a whole).
The complexity is something I use a lot to open up all my non-sport-loving friends to it. Oh? You're a dork like me that likes tactical or strategy games? Well let me tell you about running a mesh concept when you know the defense is in man coverage after you've sent a guy in motion to confirm. The "boring downtime" in football is filled with strategy if you know what you're looking for. I've gotten a surprising number of my friends into the sport this way lol.
As a Canadian, I have this same relationship with hockey - I'm not interested in it, and I don't follow it, but I know enough about the game to successfully converse with someone who *is* into hockey and not feel like a weirdo. Good and interesting idea for a video Pat! The Dark Souls boss run comparison was great!
I think the advantage that non-sports interested Canadians have is that Hockey is a sport that's a lot easier to understand just by looking at it because you're only really trying to do one thing. Football is kind of notorious for being confusing because it's not just that there's a ton of jargon to learn, but that even if you think you've got some of it figured out, now all of a sudden they're doing something called "special teams" and trying to do a completely different thing than what they were doing a minute ago.
Lifetime football fan who can 100% talk shop with anyone. You don't gotta know the complex stuff like formations (especially defensive formations) or when and why such and such is a good or bad playcall to enjoy, watch, or talk about the sport - you really just need to know the nomenclature and be able to identify it, also know the teams and how they're doing this season as well as their key players. Helps to have a team you're actively rooting for. It's like any sport. Granted, football is really complex and there's a lot to learn, but if you watch two games with someone who's your average football fan, you'd pick up pretty much everything you need to know. From there, you can become as much of an armchair coach as you want. "4th quarter, 2nd & goal, 3 yards to gain, down by 4 with 8 seconds on the clock." That's not very complex, and it's easy to understand the intensity of the situation if you know just a little bit. Go Gators!
Football is my favorite sport I like the way the jurdle when the yardage's short (seriously what tf is a "jurdle" I've watched football for 30 years and have never heard this). Love me a Patrick video, especially with an SB crossover!
Bruh this video speaks to me so hard. Just a few weeks ago I had basically the same conversation as you're open and my wife was like "You're just a disappointment to men". lol. And then the creed superbowl shirt???? Amazing.
This brings me so much joy! As a brit who fell in love with the game and went on to make it both his main hobby and career - Video games (specifically Madden 05) helped me learn the mechanics of football, it's an amazing learning tool. It's just Chess with Bulldozers - when you learn that, you get why it's so popular.
The Pats? As in, the Patriots? You didn't fail that conversation, you successfully avoided talking to a New England Patriots fan. That's a win in my book.
I just love Pat. You're a good guy. I'm glad you make videos. I'm european and I know absolutely nothing about american football - and I can't even relate because I'm one of those obsessive soccer fans who base their happiness off their team's scores - but I just had a good time, and I'm grateful for that. ✨
I've always called boss run ups in Dark Souls playing "Football Souls" someone should really make a mod, where I can wear football pads and get no attacks and 4 tries to make it to the boss without getting hit.
It’s *sorta* like tackle chess. Different players (or pieces) move across the board in different ways, and-whether most fans realize it or not-it requires both short-term tactics (play by play) and long-term strategy (drive by drive) to succeed.
To me, it always reminded me of magic the gathering because you have different class types and it's all about predictions and setup. If you're able to establish a mismatch against your opponent, you attack it. You win
I never cared about football outside of some level of disdain I had for it's vicegrip on American culture. So, I'm still in disbelief that I actually follow full NFL seasons now. I think a big part of what got me into it was honestly just getting older. Young me found the idea of sitting through a three hour game deeply unappealing. Now that I'm older, three hours is nothing to me. Time is flying by at an increasingly alarming rate so it doesn't bother me as much anymore. And yeah, over half of that three hour run time is ads and players standing around. If I'm not watching a game on delay and can FF through the ads, I have to be doing something else, usually playing a game or working on something. I almost always skip the 3rd quarter. Watching with friends helps because y'all can talk and half pay attention but then still get locked in during the tense moments and big plays. Following a team helps. You see that the quest to win a Super Bowl is the most brutal, most punishing rougue-like. Seasons can collapse at any moment for even the best teams. Also, following a full season and watching a little bit of every team, it's incredibly dramatic. The stories and drama that evolves through an NFL season and even through an off-season is addicting, compelling, and I now understand why so much media is dedicated to analysis and press conferences. It can feel like you're watching a season of great television instead of just watching sports.
1. Football is something you grow up with. Personally, I watched it with family, and I played it for 4 years. 2. It helps to know all of the teams. Like there are 32 NFL teams. That the Pats are the New England Patriots, and was the best pro team in the North Eastern US. 3. I don't play sports games, either. I played a few growing up, but none in my adult life.
The idea of the other person concluding to themself that the conversation is over and nothing's particularly out of the ordinary is a fail state, is baffling to me. 40min staring at a wall vs more social skill checks is an easy decision.
Great title, and a tough topic. I can respect your wanting to be able to understand other people's enjoyment of football, but I personally refuse. Forever. That goes for every sport. Lol. That career mode is sweet though, the role playing and the fact that it takes so long to even have the ball handed to you or even end up in a game is frankly amazing. Super immersive! Thanks Pat!
A little over a decade ago, I got very good at NCAA only because I wanted to beat my roommate who was much better at the game. From just playing the game, I picked up what each position was doing, what packages were, how to read a play and how to audible against it. I ended up with a deep knowledge of the sport. Football games are a great way to learn the sport.
Back in the mid-2000s, my family had a Sega Dreamcast and my dad decided to buy a football game for it. I don't know which game it was twenty years later, but I do know that even my dad, who watches multiple games every week during the NFL season, was confused by all the choices and jargon. I think to most football viewers, it's less about the jurdles and squibs and more about the shared experience of seeing the game. In that way, it's the same as any other tv show.
Getting into football as an adult is like being vegetarian your whole life and then one day being like, "You know what, I'm just gonna get super into veal."
Great video. Normal people are super weird. I've never really understood most sports either, even though I played baseball for eight years, but I think there's a pretty universal reason why lots of people get into it: tension and catharsis. Yeah, there's a lot of downtime in sports, but even if you can't understand the how's and why's of what's going on, there's a distinct tension-release moment of the huddle, set, and hike. Will the throw be complete? Will there be an interception? Same reason we all enjoy movies and stories, we enjoy watching what's going to happen next.
For anyone that's wondering, the "Aggies" thing is because Agricultural Science tends to be a big thing in schools in more rural states. It's similar to how some schools are about their engineering programs
I'm in the weird position of having played football as a kid and love watching football, but not the kind of football that everyone else seems to like. I watch Canadian Football, which has slightly different rules. And I cannot understand the appeal whatsoever of watching American college football of NFL. Hell, even Canadian university football I only ever went to once and it was because I was drunk. So when someone wants to talk to me about football, you gotta talk to me about my weird subset of the sport or it will go over my head.
I will say, the section where he explains why he doesn’t understand football he outlines why people like football pretty quickly in the first few things.
I lived this too when I was younger. After a series of terrible trades I ended up with no working games except for Madden NFL 2005 for Gamecube. We don't watch american football in Honduras so it was particularly difficult to play and enjoy 😂
Love it, dude: if you ever want to go even harder into the really nerdy details of the sport (and the formations), I am a mathematician who has spent most of my life studying games!
Gaming is a great way to get into almost any sport. I'm an F1 fan because I started playing forza after watching top gear then looked for a racing game with a story and started playing f1 2016. Next thing i know i'm awake at 3am watching the Japenese Grand Prix.
The trick to liking football is first make sure you're invested in a team by giving them $80,000 over the course of 4 years. That's what worked for me, at least. Also, they gave me a neat little piece of paper at the end
I always hated football growing up. After about the third year of marching band I decided to learn enough about the game to be able to tell when we were about to have to play something. Then I went to an SEC college and got caught up in the zeitgeist...
Me coming to another pat video about understanding interpersonal interaction through the structured medium of games after getting my autism diagnosis: huh
I’m probably too far gone even for this solution, I don’t enjoy watching someone else doing something if it isn’t a tutorial for something I want to do. (Narrative stuff doesn’t count, of course, the content is the story not the action) I’ve never enjoyed sports, e-sports, let’s plays, gaming streams, the list goes on… all seeing someone playing football in the tv does is make me wanna go outside and do it myself, so I just do that instead.
I got into football by playing the games and came to LOVE it, until ea bought the exclusive NFL license and I stopped playing any of their games as a result. After a while of not playing the games anymore, I just lost interest and I haven't seen a game in years
I played baseball as a kid but fell out of it until Blaseball got me interested in the stats and stuff, and now you can often find me at a sports bar after work watching the FUCKING MARINERS LOSE AGAIN GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
Pat, great video, can you make this video but again for the english fans who want to do the other football. I don't think we actually get good games, I'm gonna have to read a book or somehting???
On the field straight up "jurdling it" and by "it", haha well. let's justr say. My foutbal
the jurdle button will never stop being funny
if anyone cares i’m pretty sure jurdle is a portmanteau of juke and hurdle
The craziest part is I play these games and I have never once “jurdled”
every time i see the doctorcoat on pat in the thumbnail i know i am in for a GOOD TIME and a BIG LEARN
oh my god you got the creedshirt
Me starting the video, clueless: "Man this would be such a cool video to collab with Secret Base for."
are you clueless, or are you receiving psychic messages...
Is this a Pat or Jon Bois video?
The jazz at 1:20 gave me such SB vibes
The way I just KNEW Ryan Simmons would show up hahah
The dialogue option of "I'm Pats" and then the caption reading "Pats:..." is such a perfect joke
The concept of this video reminds me of myself when I first started high school. Most conversations with other dudes made me want to turn off their voice boxes so they would shut up, but then I learned more about football so I could have SOMETHING to talk about. And then I realized that I actually really like it... mostly because it's very dumb, too complex, and insanely marketable (the last point mostly has to do with the American sports industry as a whole).
The complexity is something I use a lot to open up all my non-sport-loving friends to it. Oh? You're a dork like me that likes tactical or strategy games? Well let me tell you about running a mesh concept when you know the defense is in man coverage after you've sent a guy in motion to confirm. The "boring downtime" in football is filled with strategy if you know what you're looking for. I've gotten a surprising number of my friends into the sport this way lol.
That's what I love about football compared to other sports. It's turn based strategy instead of simply seeing who can run the fastest or whatever
As a Canadian, I have this same relationship with hockey - I'm not interested in it, and I don't follow it, but I know enough about the game to successfully converse with someone who *is* into hockey and not feel like a weirdo.
Good and interesting idea for a video Pat! The Dark Souls boss run comparison was great!
Brazilian - soccer - same
I think the advantage that non-sports interested Canadians have is that Hockey is a sport that's a lot easier to understand just by looking at it because you're only really trying to do one thing. Football is kind of notorious for being confusing because it's not just that there's a ton of jargon to learn, but that even if you think you've got some of it figured out, now all of a sudden they're doing something called "special teams" and trying to do a completely different thing than what they were doing a minute ago.
HORRIFYING video to click on while sitting in the garage waiting room waiting for them to rotate my tires
HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
what was on the tv and what was your battery at?
Lifetime football fan who can 100% talk shop with anyone. You don't gotta know the complex stuff like formations (especially defensive formations) or when and why such and such is a good or bad playcall to enjoy, watch, or talk about the sport - you really just need to know the nomenclature and be able to identify it, also know the teams and how they're doing this season as well as their key players. Helps to have a team you're actively rooting for. It's like any sport. Granted, football is really complex and there's a lot to learn, but if you watch two games with someone who's your average football fan, you'd pick up pretty much everything you need to know. From there, you can become as much of an armchair coach as you want. "4th quarter, 2nd & goal, 3 yards to gain, down by 4 with 8 seconds on the clock." That's not very complex, and it's easy to understand the intensity of the situation if you know just a little bit. Go Gators!
We love a good Pat video on a topic I scarcely understand until after the video
Edit: i still don’t know football. good video though
Football is my favorite sport
I like the way the jurdle when the yardage's short
(seriously what tf is a "jurdle" I've watched football for 30 years and have never heard this). Love me a Patrick video, especially with an SB crossover!
I think it's supposed to be juke+hurdle but Idk what the hell that means... are you like...jumping over the next to a guy?
Bruh this video speaks to me so hard. Just a few weeks ago I had basically the same conversation as you're open and my wife was like "You're just a disappointment to men". lol. And then the creed superbowl shirt???? Amazing.
divorce her ass
This brings me so much joy!
As a brit who fell in love with the game and went on to make it both his main hobby and career - Video games (specifically Madden 05) helped me learn the mechanics of football, it's an amazing learning tool.
It's just Chess with Bulldozers - when you learn that, you get why it's so popular.
One of my favorite breakdown channels, great to see you here 🙏
Ah madden 05 on the GameCube, that’s where it started for me
Most absurdist point here is the Pats having a good season prior to Drake Maye taking over
Too relatable dial it back back a little 😂
Video games and football have a lot in common; one has QTEs and the other has CTEs.
The Pats? As in, the Patriots? You didn't fail that conversation, you successfully avoided talking to a New England Patriots fan. That's a win in my book.
WAKE FOREST MENTIONED
this intro is EXACTLY how disco elysium works
PATRICK TIME
The little intro video. Immaculate
Utah State Aggie here, happy for a mention.
I hope the MWC can stay together, sorry it’s being blown up actively
I really feel this premise. When I was little I learned about sports to better relate to my relatives and it's genuinely such a helpful icebreaker.
I just love Pat. You're a good guy. I'm glad you make videos.
I'm european and I know absolutely nothing about american football - and I can't even relate because I'm one of those obsessive soccer fans who base their happiness off their team's scores - but I just had a good time, and I'm grateful for that. ✨
I've always called boss run ups in Dark Souls playing "Football Souls" someone should really make a mod, where I can wear football pads and get no attacks and 4 tries to make it to the boss without getting hit.
It’s *sorta* like tackle chess. Different players (or pieces) move across the board in different ways, and-whether most fans realize it or not-it requires both short-term tactics (play by play) and long-term strategy (drive by drive) to succeed.
To me, it always reminded me of magic the gathering because you have different class types and it's all about predictions and setup. If you're able to establish a mismatch against your opponent, you attack it. You win
I never cared about football outside of some level of disdain I had for it's vicegrip on American culture. So, I'm still in disbelief that I actually follow full NFL seasons now. I think a big part of what got me into it was honestly just getting older. Young me found the idea of sitting through a three hour game deeply unappealing. Now that I'm older, three hours is nothing to me. Time is flying by at an increasingly alarming rate so it doesn't bother me as much anymore. And yeah, over half of that three hour run time is ads and players standing around. If I'm not watching a game on delay and can FF through the ads, I have to be doing something else, usually playing a game or working on something. I almost always skip the 3rd quarter. Watching with friends helps because y'all can talk and half pay attention but then still get locked in during the tense moments and big plays.
Following a team helps. You see that the quest to win a Super Bowl is the most brutal, most punishing rougue-like. Seasons can collapse at any moment for even the best teams. Also, following a full season and watching a little bit of every team, it's incredibly dramatic. The stories and drama that evolves through an NFL season and even through an off-season is addicting, compelling, and I now understand why so much media is dedicated to analysis and press conferences. It can feel like you're watching a season of great television instead of just watching sports.
To me football is turn based strategy with class types like Magic the Gathering. it's all about matchups and predictions
1. Football is something you grow up with. Personally, I watched it with family, and I played it for 4 years.
2. It helps to know all of the teams. Like there are 32 NFL teams. That the Pats are the New England Patriots, and was the best pro team in the North Eastern US.
3. I don't play sports games, either. I played a few growing up, but none in my adult life.
The idea of the other person concluding to themself that the conversation is over and nothing's particularly out of the ordinary is a fail state, is baffling to me. 40min staring at a wall vs more social skill checks is an easy decision.
I think game grumps: football is just DnD for jocks
Great title, and a tough topic. I can respect your wanting to be able to understand other people's enjoyment of football, but I personally refuse. Forever. That goes for every sport. Lol. That career mode is sweet though, the role playing and the fact that it takes so long to even have the ball handed to you or even end up in a game is frankly amazing. Super immersive!
Thanks Pat!
Three words: Barry. Sanders. Highlights.
Word.
A little over a decade ago, I got very good at NCAA only because I wanted to beat my roommate who was much better at the game. From just playing the game, I picked up what each position was doing, what packages were, how to read a play and how to audible against it. I ended up with a deep knowledge of the sport. Football games are a great way to learn the sport.
Back in the mid-2000s, my family had a Sega Dreamcast and my dad decided to buy a football game for it. I don't know which game it was twenty years later, but I do know that even my dad, who watches multiple games every week during the NFL season, was confused by all the choices and jargon. I think to most football viewers, it's less about the jurdles and squibs and more about the shared experience of seeing the game. In that way, it's the same as any other tv show.
That smile at 3:55 had me cackling
Gotta say, this is by far one of the most Pat Gill videos Pat Gill has ever made
Or Dr. Strange-glove
American football players wear gloves, right?
@@Popcorn_Pigeonyes
Getting into football as an adult is like being vegetarian your whole life and then one day being like, "You know what, I'm just gonna get super into veal."
Garage Simulator 2000 might be the greatest game of all time
Pat letting his New England show with the Pats mention.
hey who jurdled in here?
Thank you for your video on volo really helped me with my fencing
I don't know how you convinced me to watch this video but you did and I enjoyed it. I'm not even American-
Nothing has ever embodied the mortifying ordeal of being known as much as the first 80 seconds of this video my word
Great video. Normal people are super weird.
I've never really understood most sports either, even though I played baseball for eight years, but I think there's a pretty universal reason why lots of people get into it: tension and catharsis.
Yeah, there's a lot of downtime in sports, but even if you can't understand the how's and why's of what's going on, there's a distinct tension-release moment of the huddle, set, and hike. Will the throw be complete? Will there be an interception? Same reason we all enjoy movies and stories, we enjoy watching what's going to happen next.
For anyone that's wondering, the "Aggies" thing is because Agricultural Science tends to be a big thing in schools in more rural states. It's similar to how some schools are about their engineering programs
I'm in the weird position of having played football as a kid and love watching football, but not the kind of football that everyone else seems to like. I watch Canadian Football, which has slightly different rules. And I cannot understand the appeal whatsoever of watching American college football of NFL. Hell, even Canadian university football I only ever went to once and it was because I was drunk.
So when someone wants to talk to me about football, you gotta talk to me about my weird subset of the sport or it will go over my head.
Lavell Edward's Stadium in the thumbnail! Go Cougars!
Did you see that ludicrous display last night?
Just watch a Jon Bois video and youll suddenly love football even if youve never heard of it before
Randall Cunningham Siezes the Means of Production
I just got jurdled
I will say, the section where he explains why he doesn’t understand football he outlines why people like football pretty quickly in the first few things.
The peak of the Pro Evolution Soccer and my interest in Actual Football are very much linked
I see you with the Jon Bois-alike intro music. Well played sir
Ngl I really want to watch Pat do a Let's Play of College Football 25's career mode now...
Hell yeah its Patrick Time
The opening sketch is why everyone in law school was forced to follow football despite no one actually liking it when pressed
I lived this too when I was younger. After a series of terrible trades I ended up with no working games except for Madden NFL 2005 for Gamecube. We don't watch american football in Honduras so it was particularly difficult to play and enjoy 😂
Pat, your videos are always incredible.
This is an excellent video about not just football, but also talking and liking things. I really like this video
Is that interstitial riff from Aquatic Ruin Zone? It's so familiar.
Love it, dude: if you ever want to go even harder into the really nerdy details of the sport (and the formations), I am a mathematician who has spent most of my life studying games!
Why would I ever care about football when I can watch hockey, the greatest sport on earth
Broke: Football is like a turn based rpg
Woke: Football is like dark souls
Gaming is a great way to get into almost any sport. I'm an F1 fan because I started playing forza after watching top gear then looked for a racing game with a story and started playing f1 2016. Next thing i know i'm awake at 3am watching the Japenese Grand Prix.
love polygon's favorite son, patrick gill. he's here to bless me with ponderings from his weird, wrinkly brain.
as an autistic kid 00's gamer nerd that grew up on N64 Madden, this was pure ecstasy
"Good: huge dudes" come on Pat
There's some twinks in Football too
This was a really fun watch. A very human tale.
great video. i still know very little about american football, but now i have watched this video
More of this please!
This is the best football video I’ve ever seen
Love these videos man. Nothing like ’em. Love all of Polygon’s stuff
I got into Formula 1 because I played the F1 2017 and was like... oh, this is speedrunning. This rules.
The trick to liking football is first make sure you're invested in a team by giving them $80,000 over the course of 4 years. That's what worked for me, at least. Also, they gave me a neat little piece of paper at the end
American Football is awesome because its turn-based strategy with lots of different class types!
I would take a whole show in garage simulator 2000 style.
I always hated football growing up. After about the third year of marching band I decided to learn enough about the game to be able to tell when we were about to have to play something. Then I went to an SEC college and got caught up in the zeitgeist...
Me coming to another pat video about understanding interpersonal interaction through the structured medium of games after getting my autism diagnosis: huh
Hi Pat! Hi Pat's Arm! thank you for the good video
Your comment about Skanderbeg got me in stetches
I’m probably too far gone even for this solution, I don’t enjoy watching someone else doing something if it isn’t a tutorial for something I want to do. (Narrative stuff doesn’t count, of course, the content is the story not the action)
I’ve never enjoyed sports, e-sports, let’s plays, gaming streams, the list goes on… all seeing someone playing football in the tv does is make me wanna go outside and do it myself, so I just do that instead.
Hell yeah.
10/10 video, did not learn what a jurdle is and I do not intend to
the conversation simulator at the beginning is too real help
great video pat :)
Football a Turn Based RPG? Well, there's Bloodbowl
me, clicking on the video chanting JON BOIS JON BOIS JON BOIS JON BOIS
The intro was too real
[Cool prog rock theme]
Great title lol
I got into football by playing the games and came to LOVE it, until ea bought the exclusive NFL license and I stopped playing any of their games as a result. After a while of not playing the games anymore, I just lost interest and I haven't seen a game in years
I played baseball as a kid but fell out of it until Blaseball got me interested in the stats and stuff, and now you can often find me at a sports bar after work watching the FUCKING MARINERS LOSE AGAIN GOD FUCKING DAMMIT
I jurdled my squib the other day. I have yet to fully recover.
if they had HBCUs there would've been at least four teams called the Aggies
I can't believe I sort of want to play this game
Epic Title!
Super Pixel Games' Legend Bowl and College Bowl are much better games than anything EA has put out in YEARS!
Patrick you’ve made a lot of bangers over the year but this is at the top!!
important fucking video!!!
Pat, great video, can you make this video but again for the english fans who want to do the other football. I don't think we actually get good games, I'm gonna have to read a book or somehting???
Works at secret base . . . Hates talking about football.