The Christchurch Attack - The Last Leg
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BRAVO for the "You're Not Helping" I wish they would listen.
Fletch360PS agree completely. Bravo indeed
I heard on the radio a young woman from New Zealand who said, the day after the attack, that she didn't feel safe wearing her head scarf, and that she's never felt that way before. That really broke my heart.
No matter what, people should not feel unsafe practising their religion.
Why don't you tell that to the states ran by Islam that enforce the religion?
@@molsy1768 are you fucking serious?
Ngā mihi aroha ki a koutou. Many thanks for your compassion gents, we all need more love right now. P.S. the Māori word for irony is Hangareka 😊😊😊
Thanks for adding the last part!
you might have to dust off that reassuring message from david tennant.
Well needed
I have it saved for special occasions. But just knowing about it helps.
But for those who _haven't_ seen it, here it is: ruclips.net/video/2uQFfpe6C18/видео.html
@@LyricalDJ
You're a hero.
@@LyricalDJ I had not seen it before. Thank you for posting the link, that was really lovely.
This clip also is a wonderful way to speak to kids about it ruclips.net/video/l7nmiumLZjc/видео.html
Thank you for saying people need to talk about Jacinda instead of that horrible Aussie Senator. Christchurch is my home and the only thing I’m glad of is that she is our leader in this horrific time.
Keke M jacinda is an incredible example of what a strong leader should be and I’m so glad she had been the one not shying away from showing how to react to tragedy. Children and adults alike need to look up to the NZ PM for inspiration to how to become a leader
@@cate8752 Thank you
This whole situation hurts my heart.
What sickens me more is that through the aftermath of this terrible, terrible tragedy, I've discovered people in my social media circles that have been fully supportive of this massacre (and of Fraser Anning) even going so far as saying that the entire incident is fake and made up.
How do you respond to that..?? I want to be able to debate them, but after a couple of days of failed attempts, I've had to 'unfriend' them because: 1. it seemed to fuel their desire to dive deeper into the internet to find "news articles" and videos that supported their views to share with their friends, and 2. I was getting far too angry to even attempt a continuance of civil conversations.
I want to help. I want to stand up and fight for what I feel is right. I want to be able to stand with those that are hurting. I want to be able to hold my head high and call out racism when I see it occurring, even if it's only in a social media post in my own small circle of the world.
But I don't know how anymore. And that just breaks my heart.
I too, have had to defriend people who I've discovered are racists. You are doing the right thing by rejecting racism among your circle. It might seem small but an ocean is made up of drops of water.
I was forced to create a second social media account as too many people in my unavoidable work circle hold varying degrees of sickening views, not just on immigration issues but all kinds of things. I had a crisis in my own life that brought the issue to a head - I had no resources to keep arguing or deciding which to argue and which to let go, so I created a safe space for myself and only allow genuine friends in. I brace myself when I log in to work. Thankfully I don't need to do that often as the phone alerts me of any messages and the rest I can do from my safe account, but even so, it's really tough sometimes. Plus, I don't want my friends from all over the world to be subjected to the hate that passes for humour from these toxic people. They are everywhere infecting decent but gullible people. The biggest irony is Remembrance for World War II and "lest we forget" and that sickens me to the core ... if we learn nothing then remembering is futile, and I see daily from these same people that nothing has been learned.
You can't help. There is a psychological reason for people believing in conspiracy theories and it can't be undone by a rational conversation with an online pal. And the racism is fear based - stupid, uneducated, terrified little people who blame others for their own failings, because that is easier than face their own shortcomings. I had to come off social media altogether (except on here, obv!) because the attitude of millions of people depresses the hell out of me. I literally ceased to be able to cope with the amount of hatred out there.
The best way to help is focus your attention on those who are hurting and mourning. And as Adam has said before look to the heroes and help them. Contribute time, money or positive attention towards supportive charities. Channel the same effort as your ex contacts into searching the net for information on the mosque that was attacked and share the stories of the people who prayed in peace while this was happening. Those who hate want the world to validate them with attention. Invalidate them by overshadowing them with the positive and the loving. I have something to get you started. BBC News - Christchurch shootings: Brother proud of 'hero' mosque victim
www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-asia-47596816
So many people tried to stop/confront the terrorist to reduce the slaughter. These are the stories we need to highlight.
@free speech is no more fascism is alive and well 2 Piss off! You are not welcome.
Jacinda Ardern has had a lot of great publicity here in Australia, we all want to steal her as our pri minister. She has shown strength and compassion and put herself amongst the people as a true leader should. So sorry that Anning is getting so much publicity world wide, he is a very sorry excuse for a human. Also pleased you have not mentioned the name of the shooter, he needs to stay anonymous so he cannot become a hero. Pity Australia does not do the same.
Well said, gents. Well said. My heart goes out to all of New Zealand's decent people (ie the vast, _vast_ majority of you). x
Thank you for having this discussion
A fake one
Amazed they have not blamed Trump , that is the MAIN reason for this programme
No im a bot dontcha know (massive smiley face)
oh i see your one of these people who if anyone has a different opinion to you or view you get the label treatment
Better get back to your echo chamber
I’ve been unable to process Fridays events but this video has helped me start doing so, thank you to the cast and writers
Thank You Adam we needed this.
EGG BOY
All hail egg boy
Good on you, Adam!
Cheers Adam
very well said.
Well said lads
2:48 onwards. Thank you.
My words are useless over what happened, I can only express my deepest love for people dedicated to the religion of peace and to the people hurting in New Zealand now.
Murder is never ok 😢😢
So British TV channels apologised After showing the live feed. They Knew it was wrong to do that before they Aired it but still showed it for ratings. Nice 1 😡😡.
Did this get taken down and re uploaded?
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Thank you, Dunedin was the original target so we're all on the edge here
TheRareSpyCrab 🙏🏻❤️
Adam hills for AUSTRALIA PM be better then what we have. Well said and I agree
I agree but he is never here and he needs quite a few people to help him run the country. Prime ministers don't run countries, political parties do. I wish people would vote for the party not the person.
fourbypete I agree with that but still all I'm saying that he should at some point yes he's a comedian but still
New Zealand is European land? Always great to learn new things.
Alexei Ramotar literally not what he said
Thankfully the voters of Australia booted Anning from the Senate. 👍
Only issue with this is that they said "remember these things are rare". Problem is they really aren't anymore. Paris, Manchester, London, Christchurch to just name a few, all in the last couple of years. These things aren't rare anymore their becoming regular events.
The way this video is being passed around is the equivalent of the media scandal surrounding the Black Dahlia.
Innocent people have been killed, and instead of respecting their deaths, we are supporting the hype and worse the killer's ego.
Don't watch the video please.
Let his ego starve, just as people should have let the paparazzi starve back when Elizabeth Short was killed.
Don't feed their greed and hate.
Martyre20 there is an interesting side to this argument which I hadn't considered before yesterday. When the orlando club shooting happened, right wing pundits like Ben Shapiro, Lauren Southern etc were quick and happy to denounce Islam and name the terrorist. Now that a far right white nationalist has shot up a mosque, they fall back on the standard arguments of "don't share his name. Don't share his manifesto. *don't let people know that his ideology is what we people represent*"
So I say no. DO share his name. Shame how much of a shit stain he is. Shame his ideology. Make people KNOW that it isn't okay to have these views, that this is what it leads to. Let people know that this is what the far right stands for, explicitly or not. Let people know that the far right stwnds for the murder of innocent people.
@@FishMr3 There's that, true enough. From what I learnt of media though, there's never a shortage of paparazzi or rubberneckers willing to pass over moral lines in order to have their slice of the pie.
If showing the video helps detail why horrible people like this are wrong, then I think it's a good cause.
However, this is not new, and past the issue that concerns the abhorrent treatment of these victims, I don't want this shite to have any more attention than a footnote. Let them be forgotten, but let the injustice be remembered.
If I was the only source, I'd agree. Maybe. However, if those opposed to this evil act do not comment, do not cover it, do not speak of it... then the narrative will be entirely made up of those who sensationalise or promote such acts.
There needs to be a counter. There needs to be a voice of rationalism, and of reason. Of compassion for the lost and condemnation not just of the terrorist act, but of the conflict that spawned it.
I'm an Atheist, and further I'm an Antitheist. I have a very low opinion of Islam and almost all of the world religions, too. They're is no justification for murder. Not muslims, not anyone. Everyone has the right to be wrong. My ideology, My culture, are not so weak that they cannot withstand the presence of different views. They are not so fragile that they cannot exist without silencing or supressing other positions. This terrorist was weak, and fearful. A coward. Those that praise his actions, or attempt to frame them in a less despicable light, are cowards. They have given into fear and xenophobia. Their worldviews, their cultures, are weak and cannot stand. That is why they must try to stoke division and the tyranny of prejudice.
Humans should not kill Humans. We have far too much in common to kill each other over our differences.
@@FishMr3 all sharing his name does is make him something akin to a martyr. He would *love* it. Remember that one kid in school who constantly did stupid/dangerous things because even negative attention was attention? Same applies. Share the story but don't give them a figure to look up to the way incels worship Elliot Rodgers
WHO THE HELL DISLIKES THIS???!!!!!
A few white nationalist, I guess
@@warstories1790 You actually believe that Muslims are the issue?!
War Stories
You mean people who believe liars, right? Because that’s what they are...
First off yes I do believe they are the issue and second they are not liars you are just a left wing idiot who isn’t actually educated about what is going on in the world
War Stories - you’re supporting white supremacy and mass murder in the name of racism. Plain and simple
I wish we could have Jacinta Arden as prime minister ...
Frasier Anning 🥚 boy
I think the UK and Australia are both wanting the NZ PM as there's
Tbh I reckon we could do with her clone in plenty of countries.
Cheers for not even mention the guys name. Solid shade on the extremist.
Also, sad that Adam was shame of AusPol, understandable, but the fact remains. Aus should be ashamed of its Political leaders.
Barry Allen
Thankfully, not all Australian politicians are bigoted pigs.
Or we'd be totally fkd.
Anning is a farce of a politician who is only in office on a massive technicality. Thankfully we will only have to put up with that grotesque cunt until the next election in May. Hopefully this tragedy will stay with people long enough to inform their decision at the ballot box so we can clean house and cleanse our Parliament of these backwards thinking bigots.
Yes, it is worth remembering that these things are rare, but I'd actually argue it's not okay to feel worried or upset. By definition, terrorists of any kind thrive on creating terror, and the best way to end their illusion of having any impact on the world is to not be terrified. Unless you have personally lost loved ones in an attack like this, it should be easy enough to suppress whatever emotions you have about it, and just carry on as if nothing happened, because that is the only way to make these people stop making political points over the dead bodies of innocents.
I think Adam has put it perfectly. This is not a time for pushing political devision, this is a time to unify. This mindless violence and hate is only going to create more of itself.
If I had a magic van that located immigrants and took them home flawlessly I would assume that helps the immigration problem right? also would help my bank account if I reprogrammed it to safely drive drunks home after a long night out!
...All immigrants?
Also, that assumes that the immigration problem is them getting into the country, and not being kept out for bullshit reasons.
@@AnonEyeMouse can't you tell I'm joking?
famous stranger dude, when politics are involved, no one knows who’s joking
@@lorik2005 when I finish my comment with about taking drunks home on a night out with a magical van... surely I am joking.
The part of the comment I wasn't joking about is having a magical van to take home immigrants would help the immigration problem entirely!
famous stranger mate, you would be surprised as to the people who talk about politics in comment sections. i’ve seen a woman try to justify the prolife movement by talking about angering the leviathan
@IsItOk you keep asking this stupid hash tag isitok ? of course not why would you have to ask .
One mans terrorist is another mans hero.
Your absolutely correct mate, I wish that more people could see that
Tepid
GIVE IT A REST
Why don't you piss off
Please Adam... Ditch the beard.. Your looking a little too Rolfy..
surprised I could actually hear what they have to say all the way from their ivory towers
gotta remember: guns arent the problem. people are the problem. social media is just as much a weapon as anything else. and its still a human finger pulling the trigger whether its a gun or twitter or facebook or a media news article.
when theyre typing -- **click click click** when they hit enter -- **Boom**
Yoda Man - yes people are the problem, and problematic people like that having easy access to high powered weaponry is an infinitely bigger problem.
It’s worth nothing the gunman carried out his attack in New Zealand because of their relaxed gun laws, as opposed to Australia’s stringent controls. Which, since being introduced have eradicated such events.
@@affenket yes its interesting you said that about australias gun laws. when their knife crime has skyrocketed same as every other country that ever banned guns. so now we go back to the original point i made: people are the problem. also..just anybody can be on social media. i mean trump is there. look at the shit he spread just this last weekend alone. social media itself isnt the problem. its the people that use it. again people are the problem.
Yoda Man - ‘people are the problem’ is a meaningless platitude that does nothing to address societal problems. Limiting problematic people’s access to weaponry is a reasonable response to the misuse of those items. Knife sales and carry is restricted in Australia too, and while there may have been a moderate increase in knife crime in the decades since gun ownership was restricted, the overall homicide rate is down.
It’s undeniable that knifes are less deadly than guns. You can never legislate away all weaponry, every day life brings with it dangers and threats. No one is denying that. However it IS reasonable to restrict people’s access to inordinately powerful weaponry they have no logical use for. By your logic we should allow the average citizen to own military vehicles, explosives etc because at the end of the day, tanks don’t kill people, people do.
@@n_sn_s5470 dont try to speak for me sjw. i live in the real world where blaming inanimate objects for what human beings do with them doesnt mean anything. and never will. do the math yourself. of all the variables in these situations which one can both think and act for itself? not the guns. not the knives. not even social media. the humans can. ergo: as ive already stated, been right about, and will continue to be right about -- people are the problem.
If guns aren't the problem but people are...then why give the 'problem' guns?
Are those so called comedians claiming they didn't watch the shooter's video? Come off it.
but wait... standing infront of a poster with breaking point on it, that is literally true, if we weren't at breaking point, this shit wouldn't be happening in the first place.
What’s the English word for irony? Oh irony, the irony of them talking about the awfulness of using a tragedy to make a political point, (which I totally agree with), and then they use a tragedy to make a political point.
I have never shared a meme that Islam is violent, but I accept that Muhammed waged war, killed his enemies to a man, enslaved their children and concubined their women. This is all documented in the Koran. So what exactly am I "not helping"? Avoiding the truth? It is okay to criticise a philosophy, all ideas are up for debate. That the philosophy is held by a vulnerable minority does not give it a free pass. That such criticism might be appropriated by the hateful is unfortunate. Does Hitler's vegetarianism discredit veganism by association? Ideas and criticism have merit independent of who is saying them.
I am saddened by the appalling murders in Christchurch. I'm sure most Muslims' relationship with their religion is just as unexamined as most Christians. Those that do closely investigate their beliefs often reject the absurdity of super beings, or double down on that belief leading to intolerance and violence. I know I'm "not helping" by saying this, but Truth is more important to me than comforting platitudes.
That's where you are totally wrong. The Quran does not say that nor can you read that there. You are just another paste and copier who reads the ramblings of other ignorant dick heads