Surface Studio Laptop -VS- New M1 MacBook Pro 16
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I don't often get excited about laptops but this fall is the exception. I'm loving both the Surface Laptop Studio and the New M1 Macbook Pros. How do these two amazing laptops stack up against each other? That's what we are here to talk about today.
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I appreciate that the “not-fun-to-drawiness” factor is a quantifiable data point in your review.
lol
Thanks for the comparision. I'm strongly considering the Surface Studio for my daughter, who is an artist and is graduating high school this year. I did watch your standalone review of the new Surface laptop as she is concerned about pen performance after you mentioned the rather poor pen performance on your Acer ConceptD review, which she was interested in prior to seeing your review. I also believe she has started watching your drawing videos as well so keep up the great content!
I think that a combination of a Macbook M1 + an Ipad Air 4 + an Apple Pencil 2 would be a better deal than a Surface Studio
@@phatnguyen6925 but that's not all that portable for a soon to be college student. She requires portability more than anything else. But I see your point.
The best, affordable and overall experience I could recommend is the Surface laptop. It is a full computer and combined with the new surface pen she will be fine. Buying a macbook pro and and ipad plus pencil will be expensive and cumbersome for a student. Plus she will need just the right application for her art, not a tons of apps and from my experience Concepts on windows is very good plus it is a vector drawing application that she might combine with others like adobe.
@Just An Randomly Tomato I did ask her if she wanted an iPad with an Apple Pencil but she didn't want that. She wants a convertible laptop with touchscreen/pen support.
@@hervenguefack425 thanks! I'm 90% sure that the Surface Studio is the laptop I will get her. Hopefully, MS will make that laptop available with their 10% student discount with certain PCs. I appreciate the advice.
Here's what I want: The convenient all-in-one Surface Pro 8 to be just as powerful and energy efficient as the MBP M1 Max with all the ports included and the brilliant, colour-accurate 4K display, + a compatible and slimmer Wacom Pro Pen 2.
Yep pretty much this
Yep agreed
It would encroach on the iPad market, wouldn’t?
Amen
And I also want to be able to run Procreate on it! :)
I am a Mac guy but love to see quality devices like these coming out. Competition is good and great tech is great for everyone
Not an Apple guy but with m1, I think Apple could make a perfect surface book replica.
The only thing holding them back is the fact that they don’t want to push sales away from the iPad. I love the iPad but i know there’s a market for a Apple version of a surface book
@@AmandasRoseBud Yup, and that´s my main gripe with Apple. They don´t want to cannibalize sales between iPad pro and MacBook Pro, so they keep both worlds artificially separate. Apple could probably boot the iPad pro up with a regular MacOS, w/o any technical modification. Just imagine a MacBook Pro with a gorgeous 14 or 16" display, or a 27" iMac which is pen and touch enabled....
Ironically, Microsoft seems to be doing more for the creative professional right now. For Photoshop, the CPU and GPU power of the Surface lineup is perfectly sufficient. For video and 3D animation, the MacBook Pro M1 are a godsend. The one letdown with everything Surface is the miserable battery life, though, even in it´s newest iteration. And there´s a caveat: It still remains to be seen how close to Wacom EMR and/or Apple Pencil Microsoft has actually come with the new Slim Pen 2. While very much improved, there´s still some wobble visible in certain situations.
Finally: I´m really curious if Microsoft will get out a 3rd generation Surface Studio together with the new Slim Pen 2.
But.. About that would they? the company in question makes everything to make it impossible for the consumer don't change anything. But yes. All great design decisions on Surface would make the Mac perfect. Congrats to pointing that out 👍
Most "pros" of the industry already do that. They use an iPad/Wacom/Huion/GalaxyTab hooked up to a MacBook.
@Pixel: Surface Studio and Acer Ezel are for CAD/CFD/Stem crowd, not visual artists. They can hold their value because MacOS still lacks software optimization for those apps.
Apple won't implement any touch functionality to macOS anytime soon as they specifically expressed the will to have 2 separate operative systems (macOS and ipadOS) each specifically tailored to precise and blunt pointing devices.
Hi Brad, I like this review, very simple but I think that's what I like about it. Not overly technical and just right for people looking at making this choice. I got the Laptop Studio 512gb 16gb version and am returning it and got the 2tb 32gb version instead. I want this to be my main computer for a long time. never had a machine with this much storage before, pretty insane. Such a lovely lovely machine. Thank you for another great video
Hey! Would it be alright with you to update us if you encountered any problems down the line? I'm strongly considering the surface pro too, but I'm not sure about its longevity. And as a hs student, I don't mind waiting until I get one! ^^
What do you think of the battery life ?
Lol I did the same thing. I got the first one and was like "oh wait I'm going to have this for a while" and swapped for the 32gb 2TB. Absolutely love the machine. Came from the SB3 and genuinely thought I wouldn't like it.
Hi Brad, Can you please do an updated review of sidecar? I know in your 2019 review you weren't very impressed. Is it any better in 2021? Thank you.
I think Sidecar got worse from Catalina > BIg Sur > Monterey tbh
It looked pretty bad in this video.
@@formerlycringe Really? That sucks to hear. I wanted to replace my pen tablet with it. Guess I'll stick with it.
It’s still crap. I think they went out of their way not to consult artist and make it just more of a tool to shove your UI for film and photo editing, or maybe something coders use.
It’s not going to replace your Cintiq.
@@AleySoundz In terms of latency, it's actually pretty good especially if you connect a USB c cord. I've used it with Clip Studio Paint and it works well. The only real con to it that I've noticed is that you need to use two fingers for most navigation (like scrolling or rotating the canvas in Clip Studio Paint or even in other apps). The apple pencil always works though as a mouse but there's no cursor hovering over your screen which kind of sucks if you're used to using a traditional pen tablet. Overall it's good (using an m1 ipad pro).
You always provide thoughtful and informative perspectives during your product comparisons. Thank you for your work !
I guess, like always, it's the same old thing.
Either you're a windows or a mac guy, and both options are equally viable, however I have never met a person that switched to the other platform after settling on the other, for me it was the same in 2011 when I switched to macOS for my professional life.
It's especially tricky to switch from macOS to Windows as the ecosystem within the apple devices is just so good.
On the other hand, while being a mac guy (waiting for an M1 max 16" to be shipped), I used windows too all my life (started with Windows 95) and damn if I'd love to get a Surface Studio Laptop too, if I had unlimited money.
Meet me. :D
I am kind of switching between both.
My family had a Windows machine at first, later a Mac.
My first device of my own was an original iPad Air (2013), wich I use to this day.
My smartphones were all Android though.
And for the first PC I got myself a few years ago, I chose another windows machine. (Asus Zenbook)
However, if I would need to make the same decision again today, I'd 100% get a MacBook Air.
(I didn't a few years ago bc the Macbooks at that time were either really shitty in comparison to the competition (Air), too expensive (Pro) or had terrible connectivity (seriously, ONE USB-C port on the standard model?)
We'll see what comes next. :D
I use both. Since there is no Mac Pad I use a Windows 2 in one for drawing. For everything else administrating, editing and for some strange reason cross platforms apps work better on the Mac.
@@toontoon9232 My main issue at this point is that certain programs are just not available on one of the platforms.
You're right. I love my 2019 MB. But as a designer, I'm finding more convenience and productivity in the Laptop Studio, so I'm gonna switch to this machine for my professional work and keep my Mac for other tasks.
Used Macs since 1990 til 2017. Developed commercial applications for MacOS, did commercial admin work etc. . But that butterfly debacle was the last coffin that I couldn't longer recommend any new Mac to my customers. So I had to try out alternatives.... Long story short: using a Surface Pro 2017 (my first Windows PC) and a Surface Studio 2 now... Some of my customers switched too as being able to have a decent but cheap PC Workstation (which acts as a fileserver too) and a mobile solution isn't any option with Apple. And I guess it will never be again...
Great video man! Now iPad Pro vs Surface Pro 8!!! Can't wait to get a hold of that sweet surface pro
I think the dream is the surface with m1 😅
I’ve never wanted Apple to get more creative with their designs as I do now. Now that they have the unbelievably powerful M1chips in their devices, if they started creating surface like devices with more to offer, the surface line would be dead and over. The only way Microsoft if winning anymore is because of their 2-in-1 offerings, and many people will sacrifice power, battery life and sustainability just for that creative touch to the device. With the stability, power and battery of the new macs, they would be unrivaled with the surface features.
All I want is surface laptop studio with M1 max chip
Wooow, i also think the same as you.
I think microsoft should develop an ARM based processor which can read x86 too so it will better, like in Ms SQ1 but this should be improve, because SQ1 is actually a micosoft failure but it will beat M1 Pro Max later.
@@bambanggantolet3752 I don't see them needing to. They just released the new surface pro x, which implemented x86 emulation more effectively than the last one, and began x64. It looks like they'd rather take the time to get those working well then trying to create an entirely new hardware manufacturing line
Hey Brad! I very, very and very LOVE your comparison video!!!
Surface Laptop Studio has worked best for me, since I’ve mostly worked in the windows ecosystem, and I have used an iPad with an iMac in an office setting extensively, and being tethered in a cumbersome/inelegant way between a device and a portable drawing display vs the sheer convenience of having it all in one system/one cable makes it a no brainer.
There is a huge missed opportunity in not having a pencil/touch enabled MacBook in some sort of 2 in 1 form factor, as even though MacOS is not my preferred OS at this time, I would have probably waited for that hypothetical device (if I thought they would ever do it) as opposed to jumping on the SLS.
That being said, ironic that windows followed the nerfed MacBook port selection only for apple to immediately increase their port selection to something pros actually want.
But yeah, my current setup is the i7/32gb SLS, with a Huion tablet stand to angle it up slightly in tablet mode for ergonomics, and a tourbox neo for hot keys.
Also, there is a series of dongles and hubs to connect other peripherals if I need them. (I never said it was the perfect setup lol, but so far it has been the best for my purposes with fewer compromises, having worked professionally in the past with Wacom displays, iMac/iPad combos with astropad, as well as non display tablets from Wacom and the Surface Pro 5)
I am very curious to hear why the SLS feels less compromising to you than a desktop/laptop hooked up to a Wacom display - is it just the freedom that comes from not being tethered in place by the Wacom?
It would seem to me that desktop + Cintiq would be the ultimate no-compromises solution, whereas an all-in-one like the SLS would compromise screen real estate for some degree of mobility and somewhat reduced price. Anyway, would love to hear your thoughts on it as someone who’s used both.
@@AnalogKensho This is the great issue for me right now. It would be far more affordable to get a similarly specced desktop and auxiliary drawing tablet than the SLS. Is it worth paying an extra $1,000+ for portability?
@@AnalogKensho Being able to take a full featured workstation anywhere without any additional cables is primarily what I need right now, and these days I find Wacom to be way overpriced and in the past their QC has been pretty crappy. I’d much rather spend less for “good enough”, and honestly Wacom’s mobile devices are just way too overpriced and old hardware, and they are only recently responding to the market competition.
Basically my preference is having a solid mobile all in one, that can handle sketching and full paintings, then at some point replacing my current Cintiq (a 10 year old Wacom that right now is having a weird power fault that I might need to open it up to get it working again) with probably the 24” 4k Huion. Basically I spent twice that for something that I can use everywhere and use exclusively for now, and save the desktop upgrade for later, and probably at some point see if I can get the Cintiq working again.
But yeah my workflow really needs versatility over anything, and the SLS has a high enough resolution screen to be perfectly suitable for digital illustration. Before this I used a surface pro 5, which did pretty well but was anemic in its performance, and made it purely just a device for drafting, until it slowed down enough that it wasn’t even great for that, since Photoshop likes to get more and more bloated. SLS is a champ, I’ve purposely overburdened it and it still kept up (although it was pumping out a lot of heat and needed to be plugged in).
My ideal config would be the form factor and drawing surface of the SLS with the new MacBook Pro Mac chips.
@@gormauslander that’s entirely personal preference. If you like taking your work around the house, like in front of the tv on your couch, or outside, then versatility makes more sense. It’s definitely not the best bang for your buck, but you can’t really toss a pen display in your backpack.
@@zephyr6913 thanks for taking the the time to explain, that is very informative! You make a lot of excellent points, and as you point out the simplicity of an all-in-one solution is very tempting. Being a hobbyist, my art needs allow me to do much the same as you describe with an iPad Pro - and I’d probably be content to just keep using the iPad for some time, but there is some home recording gear I’d like to get that is just going to be so much easier to use with full Mac or windows PC.
I haven’t used Wacom myself in many years, but I always sort of kept them in the back of my mind as the “gold standard” that I would eventually upgrade to if necessary. Unfortunately, as you point out it does seem like they’ve had a string of engineering and software misses in recent years. I hope that all the competition pushes them to do better, but I have this nagging fear that there may be limitations to what they can accomplish due to their size and the volume of devices they are able to sell.
The surface reminds me of certain Sony Vaio models (like the z flip)
I'm glad this design type is back. I really wanted one back then but couldn't get it since I was a kid.
Not an artist but switched after being 27 years Mac only to Surface. Starting with a Pro 2017 to test Windows (really!) and got the Studio 2 later - couldn't believe it when the first Studio was announced that it wasn't from Apple (yeah - owned THE iMac G4 too)... . Never looked back. But: there are some huge stones on the way of switching: E-Mail, Calendar and Contacts. The UWP apps are best described as advertisement for 365. But even more worse: CardDAV Contact groups are handled different. And Windows drag&drop - just don't use it as a Mac user... BTW: Pro 2017 - my Windows test machine - tempted to replace it with a Go as that would be much more portable for me. Hope it will get a better battery runtime in the near future.
So you bought a Mac when you were a toddler?
Office 365 is the GOAT. tbh. I've used other services and my god, they have started to lag behind.
that rounded corner bit at 11:02 😭 super relatable.
Love to see the Surface winning. Love it. Absolutely.
Funny how it lost in the other video by MaxTech. Love my 14" MBP. Absolutely.
Ahahahahah...but the comparison was on an artist point of view...it is normal that the surface win with the improvements they made on the new pen and the form factor...if you need a "real portable computer" to draw on it everywhere or on the go and not a tablet which are mostly limited just to draw, then the surface wins, but if you need just a computer, the macbook wins...no tie as Brad said😆
Be interesting how well the Studio ages as it is a new product and based on the Duo being a dumpster dive I for one would not be jumping on any first gen MS Surface products? There are some online issues including QC so worth watching. This is not even released in Europe until next year (sometime), probably as we are not so keen to pay the MS premium and by then far better devices with the 12th gen will be incoming. So for me it is not of any interest especially at its steep price which is almost ridiculous and truly for the rich or MS fandom and affiliates!
As great as the M1 chip is I'm honestly only a fan of the iPad when it comes to apple...but the surface products with Windows 11 being more tablet-friendly and Android apps coming, I think I'm more interested in Windows.
I'm actually mostly a Linux user but I love tablets for art like the ipad, but I also code on Linux, and now Windows 11 has pretty much full Linux environment support built in with WSLg along with a fantastic drawing experience. I can do everything with one device. It's pretty awesome. Especially for my wallet.
The M1 chip is amazing but I'd rather wait and let MS come up with a competitor than just jump ship and switch. I know people love to hate MS but they're doing really great stuff these past few years. (Minus that surface duo thing)
Man, Apple really needs to ditch the stupid "no touchscreens" thinking on their Macbooks. I would have bought one if it was like that Surface Studio with Apple Pencil support. Either way, what's the point of allowing touch enabled apps to run on your hardware when you totally refuse to make a touch enabled laptop device?
I've seen lots of people with mac books touching the screen over and over again always forgetting it doesn't work
@@subspaceanomaly I do it too from time to time as a reflex. with touchscreens common place on phones and tablets, and becoming so on laptops, it seems people kind of expect every screen (but TVs) to have to have that function.
Good to see the comparison. Nice Job!
Have them both and I am pretty sure the screens of them have very similar performance with SDR stuff. They are both 100% srgb, 82% adobe rgb and 77-78% P3. Their brightness in SDR mode are both 500 nits, and both rate 0.20 delta-E. Tested and no visible difference except from resolution in SDR.
When doing things like browsing web and Office work, they have very close battery life. I think SLS did 12 hrs with the PCMark 10 test and MBP hit 14. But when it comes to heavy load software ARM starts to totally beat x86.
Translation: I think you're saying both devices are about equally color accurate. Right? Just checking if I'm understanding right.
(I'm still learning color accuracy lingo over here.)
Great review! I would wait for Gen 2 of Studio, which would add couple more ports and slimmer bezels like Pro 8.
Hi Brad, love your videos! I’m so excited about the new macbook pro and i think the newer macbook line up is gonna be good at art and ive been thinking of switching up from windows. I’ve watched your initial review of sidecar, and I really want to know if the macbook and ipad sync with sidecar feature already mature up to replace pen display like cintiq.
I think with newer updates everyone also wanna know if it’s worth to invest in macbook / ipad combo for sidecar, so would you make a update review on the sidecar?
Great works and have a nice day, Brad!
I simply love Surface Studio - I went for i5 instead of i7 - I do not play games and I do not edit videos. It is very versatile and stage mode is great - you need keyboard only when you are typing or doing some job. Stage mode is good for watching videos and even going through PPT slides. Lack of touch screen is a big deal for me.
I love your videos Brad, but I will have to disagree in the last part when you defend the notch on the MacBook.... It is there to pave the way for future generation that house Face ID... currently it serves no other purpose but to look like an iOS device. The bezel is "thick" enough to hold a vastly better camera module if they wanted to, just take a look at current Xperia devices that have top and bottom bezels of around 4mm and those devices have an 8MP camera (it doesn't win any awards, but it is way better than those 1080p found in the Mac).
The notch in the MacBook is hideous and absolutely unnecessary.
Been looking for this Vs and leave it to Brad to actually deliver. GREAT review.
Loved this vid, I'm getting a Surface Laptop Studio 2 soon!
I appreciate your objectivity - great review and comparison!
Great comparison. This is why it's shortsighted when people just declare M1 the winner of everything. Not everyone uses their laptop the same way.
Pointless exercise for a digital artist as the MB Pro is not made for them, an iPad and MB Pro combo is the default choice if you are in the Mac ecosystem. Not being a digital artist IO can say that the MB Air aided by an iPad Pro 11 M1, combined costing less than the base (dGPU) Studio and within the change get the keyboard.
Macbook has
- better screen
- better speakers
- better trackpad
- better ports
- better thermals & noise
- better battery life
- better webcam
- better weight and size
- better design (bezels, rear)
Its not just the M1 Chip.
@@BlueHawk80
MacBook is also
-Limited
@@BlueHawk80 Macbook can't play x86 games
Macbook has absolutely terrible pixel response times, rendering the 120hz display pointless.
Can you still run photoshop and premiere pro flawlessly on the base $1600 edition of the surface studio?
Thanks for the detailed comparison sir :) I would love to see you draw on the Lenovo Yoga Tab 13 with the Precision Pen 2 which costs around 90$
my surface studio stopped charging only 3 days in- and kept glitching with photoshop open on the tablet part. so disappointing,
Even I'm surprised by the result
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As I have an older Ipad pro and use it for everything and so, I'm excited about the new macbooks! You mentioned in this review the functionality of the surface screen and compared it to an Ipad. I am closer to the M1 mac mini as far as budget goes and want to stay in the ecosystem, even as I type this on my dell desktop. As the new mac OS also runs apps, what are your thoughts surrounding using procreate with an Ipad and a mac mini and using the resulting files in the Adobe workflow, ie. Animate, and After Effects as an animation workflow? Thanks and I love your content!
I dont think these are two products that we can compare since they are made for different customers.
I agree with the symmetry for bezels comment. I know the Pixel 5 was pretty much a dud of a phone, but I couldn't help but to absolutely love the way they did symmetrical bezels on it.
Great review! Thank you!
I'll take option C- the Acer! ConceptD Ezel 3 refresh is coming this month. Not only bumps up to a 8c/16t processor but also has a RTX 3050ti and... the holy grail.. WACOM EMR. Plus it comes in that sweetass old school scifi style white + orange. Wouldn't be surprised if a little alien bursts out of the keyboard.
Is Wacom EMR confirmed? I saw reference to both Wacom AES and EMR in their press release, but it wasn't clear which product which was going to. The picture made it look like the D7 Ezel was getting EMR, while the D3 was getting AES (capacitor for charging on the stylus).
@@tobylee1170 The marketing has been unclear, yeah. The Acer press release says EMR and the actual Ezel 3 product page also says EMR ("up to Wacom EMR"). I've seen SKUs for Europe and Asia which have AES not EMR. So we'll see what happens. I got it confirmed from Acer on Facebook but who knows what sort of employee was answering my question ha. Appears that maybe there will be two versions- which is not a good move imho.
Loved your review!
As an designer myself I would love it if you would speak more about design as well as art
Thank you for the vs. Question, would the studio be more of a equal vs. with the new iPad Pro with keyboard?
Keep in mind the iPad only runs a stripped down tablet OS, where as the Surface runs a full desktop OS. There are so many functions not available in the mobile/tablet apps that make it a deal breaker for me, but everyone's use case is different. For me tablets are glorified Netflix devices, other people may be OK with the OS though.
Brad: The Surface wins
Also Brad: But not really
😂
🤣 right? He did initially want to score that 3rd category as a tie, which would have left it 1.5 to 1.5 - so I think it’s fair to say these two are so close that it’s hard to say one is better than the other. Which is great for us as consumers, since we can just choose whichever fits our use case better and not feel like we’re making big compromises!
How can the Surface even remotely win, when the Macbook has
- better screen
- better speakers
- better trackpad
- better ports
- better CPU power
- better thermals & noise
- better battery life
- better webcam
- better weight and size
- better design (bezels, rear)?!
Unless you really need Windows/Gaming or a convertible, MBP is the king in 2021, hands down.
@@BlueHawk80 a lot of items on your list are subjective.
I've heard some say the surface track pad is better, some people like the smaller size, and the last point "design" is literally the definition of personal opinion
@@gormauslander Still his list is what people should look for in a laptop. That is how laptops are evaluated. This video combines all of those advantages into one criterion and count as 1 which make no sense.
@@BlueHawk80 - no Magnetic Dock connector (Surface Connector is MagSafe on steroids!)
- no touch
- no pen
- can not virtualize old Mac Software (!! VirtualBox on Windows - not legally but who cares...)
Dude I just recently found out about Mental Canvas for the iPad and I want to know Brad's opinion/perspective on it. It looks and acts really cool, but I wanna know if there's a catch to it
I have a surface laptop studio in my cart. Makes me sick to see the price tag. Still can't decide if the upgrade to i7 rtx is worth it vs i5 no video card. The Mac is laughable without a touch screen.
My experience personally was regret with the surface pro 5 when I underspecced it, it just didn’t have longevity. Granted, these days i5s go a lot further, but if your main workflow involves a resource heavy drawing app like Photoshop, then more power is probably going to be to your advantage. Just not your battery life. Also keep in mind that things like the RAM are soldered, the storage is upgradeable but not without some risky work, and compatibility is not well known at this point.
I use a MB Pro and iPad and TBH I can get both for less than the Studio with dGPU! Best tablet and laptop with none of the Studio compromises and I can be far more productive as I have two devices when I need them, one for notes and drawing and the other for research and writing. I would be a fool to swap my current workflow for just one device, especially a version 1 when we know MS have had issues with first-gen devices. Thankfully MS has not even released in Europe, prices here are MS stupid and they are so poor value that MS may decide not even to release here as no one will buy with 12th-gen arriving sooner than the Studio Laptop.
@@andyH_England so right. Microsoft is charging apple prices and delivering with automanufacting reliability.
the video we have been waiting for 😍
Best combo would be M1 MacBook air + drawing tablet. You can draw for hours and then edit on it.
I was surprised Brad didn't talk about that
It can be cumbersome for others who prefer an all in one device instead of two.
@@eyhtwozed2606 i don't think that's an issue. Drawing tablets are incredibly light.
The issue being versatility: I can pull out my SLS and do surfing on the couch, no cables or peripherals, then do some quick sketches in a full featured professional drawing app, maybe only needing to plug in after a few hours, versus trying to achieve that same setup on the couch with a Mac? Not going to be as slick or as easy as just picking up my SLS, sitting down, pulling the pen out from under the lip, and just working immediately, then instantly switching to browsing or whatever else I want to do, storing the pen very securely on the device at a whim.
That being said, the SLS is basically half of my setup, as I wanted to have a full fledged compact mobile drawing setup, and eventually will reinvest in my desktop setup with a full scale (>20”) drawing tablet. I’m a huge fan of redundancy with specialization, so if one goes down I have options to finish what I’m doing on the other platform.
@@zephyr6913 you can do everything on a MacBook except for drawing, for that you'd need to sit on a desk. But i think that's a decent compromise for the battery life & performance improvements you get from macbook air . Not to mention completely fan free design
5:10 That’s because you aren’t using Final Cut Pro
Why pay another license if you have Adobe CC anyway? And: finding people (e.g. students) doing a Premiere job is soo much easier... . Also: getting another seat (e.g. cheap PC Workstation which can double as a file server) is a no brainer on Windows compared to Apple...
@@kaptnwelpe5322 because final cut is better optimized and you pay once and keep it forever
That notch tho
+command and option what the hell am i supposed to use these for? gimme my windows key and alt/altgr any day! granted this isnt a problem for someone used to mac os but if you are switching that would be a huuge no no for me+ is right clicking still not a thing in macos that would mess with me too much
@@SimonBauer7 io
@@SimonBauer7 Right-clicking is a thing in macOS. There will be learning periods going from one OS to the other, but I'm happy with either.
Both my mac and my PCs have apps installed that give them features of the other!
What about it? You get extra screen with that notch, which is good
@@rph_redacted Depends how valuable you find that screen space vs how you feel about the aesthetic.
Hey Brad, for our fellow budget artists, light gamers, and tablet users, what option (used or new) from ms surface is really fitting for someone who might not be able to spend more than 200-300 USD on one?
What's the driver situation with the new M1 pro and huion tablets? Smooth native experience?
I don't really care for macs. There are a lot of reasons, but the biggest one for me is customization. I'm very much a tinker and I like to have everything set a very certain way. I like the control you have over a Windows machine, and I don't care much for apple as a company tbh. they have done a lot of not great things and are a huge contributor to our planet dying and modern slave labor, but I digress. I'm buying the Studio tomorrow. I'm excited.
p.s. I'm not saying you're a bad person if you like macs, I get it. It's not like any computer company is particularly good for the planet, I just think Apple is one of the more grievous perpetrators. Everyone likes something, and I'm not attacking that, I was just giving the reasons I personally don't care for them.
Well a question then
You use Mac for all your use case scenarios
But do you use laptop studio for drawing? Or you still use iPad pro?
Hey Brad, I found your ruler slow angled line test is an easy objective metric to compare across your reviews, I was wondering if you have a table with the pen tests for all the devices on the list on your website?
Great s always. I like the design of the Surface wayy more than that of the mackbook. First of all, the symmetry around the display is psychologically more pleasing than the notch on the Mac. I don't really think the notch has a practical reason. Surface is doing better without it. Who cares about a few miimeters of a thinner bezzel. The Mac is a fantastic machine, but I just can't overlook the notch as an industrial design graduate student.
If that is how you judge a laptop, by superficial aesthetics then. You really should not be looking at a MB Pro 14/16 as these are for getting work done, not to look pretty in Starbucks!
@@andyH_England Way better than caring about superficial Geekbench numbers that do not affect me when GETTING WORK DONE. I'm a designer, not a biased and senseless MB fan. Plus, the work you need to get done immediately is working on your writing and vocabulary. No one ends a sentence when it is not finished! It is called literacy. Then, we'll discuss getting work done.
Surface has thick bezels and that Windows logo not sitting in the center looks super awkward. Also it is thick and heavy for a 14" device.
@@1990soroush You sound just as 'biased and senseless' Surface fan. Guess what, Macbook shines in design AND getting the work done - faster, cooler, more quiet and with 2-3x the battery time. Boom.
@@m-stat9 I've never had a Surface device. In fact, I currently own a 2019 MB! ;) I'd much rather go with the result of this comparison than claims of MB's heartbroken fans. Plz buy your shiny MB and stop telling others what to buy. Everyone knows their own needs much better.
Do you still use the surface or you switched to the apple ipad air?!
In terms of drawing...is a surface studio as great as a wacom cintiq or ipad...as far as their stylus' quality and screens. That would be a really interesting cross comparison.
Hi Brad can you recommend an inexpensive drawing tablet for a 13 y.o beginner. Looking forward to your response
Both! Thanks
I think that lag in Adobe Premiere could be due to a lag in the translation between M1 & Adobe apps who are still Intel (AFAIC) as well.
I wish apple did a two in one
Hi mr. brad .. im considering to buy an ipad for drawing and maybe doing some comissions with it .. which one should i choose between ipad 9 or ipad air 3? ..
i can save about 100$ if i choose the 9 .. but i hesitate to buy becuase it has non laminated screen.. hope you can answer thank you :)
Any recommendations on what laptop, tablet etc I should buy? I'm looking to use Adobe illustrator to make stickers. And also looking to draw on the screen. I can settle for a separate drawing pad compatible to a Laptop thanks!
hi looking to upgrade but unsure if the pro 8 or studio is better for me i only really use photoshop eney advice
Yesss thank you for this video
Tried Mac in the past thought it was garbage, got the 16inch m1 pro and omg it's way better than any machine I've ever used. Screen is better than my TV, performance on battery and complete silence is insane. 40ish docker containers running on it and still get 8hrs out of it while it being faster than my windows desktop. The hype is real, (for my work as Web dev) it's even faster than people said.
Legit don't miss Windows any more.
Can a laptop or computer or surface dive be better to us procreate then an iPad Pro?
The Macbook Pros are certainly tempting. But for this generation, I'm going with the Surface Laptop Studio as it fills my 2-in-1 need right now.
That said, I'm slowly gravitating to getting back into Macbook + iPad ecosystem. But not the Pro, as it will be too heavy to take both devices, so next gen Macbook Air could be interesting.
Apple won't sell Macs with Touch/Pen for the foreseeable future as long as they are able to sell TWO devices instead of one... . There is a reason why there is no MacPad (iPad (non-pro) with more RAM) - would kill Apples desktop and mobile lines as for 80% of users it would be fast enough. Really - I know professionals still using 2012 MBPs or first gen MacPros ...
Why you don't make a video about drawing on phone art huawei
hey Brad! can you review the Simbans PicassoTab? it is a budget android all in one drawing tablet and I was wondering if it was any good
Which is better a Samsung touch screen laptop or the Surface?
the surface would make me more productive on my drawings as I can use it anywhere anytime.
How is the SLS with Adobe Lightroom cc performance wise?
why no one is giving credit to Sony vaio for the design of the surface studio?
Thanks! This was the next purchase problem I am facing 🙈 The surface doesn't release in Norway until 2022, sooo guess I have to wait 😇
Same in the UK, it is moot for me as MS does not release until Q1 2022 and by then Intel 12th gen will be in full flow and the Surfaec Laptop Studio will be old news.
Another benefit to the MacBook screen you didn’t mention: it is anti-reflective. You can see in your video, especially in the different postures of the Surface Laptop Studio, how reflective the screen is. I imagine that’s really annoying!
In use I haven’t had any issues, it’s bright enough that it overcomes that. If you wanted to see if it works for you, it seems like Best Buy usually has them on display now. That being said, I’ve been used to drawing on reflective surfaces for over a decade, so. Your mileage may vary.
Hi Brad, what's your inking brush you up in ps please?
I would love a review of MatePad 11
I got the M1 max 16 but this is a very very compelling competitor i
Where is luna display for windows review?
My favorite review so far - bar none. Who cares about benchmarks from content creators (video). The most important kinds of reviews are the usability reviews with honest, non-biased practical usage. TY.
I cant wait to see more laptops for all around visual artists but a possible deal breaker, is I really disslike the gray and black look that
typically comes with Macs and prefer white and black or black and white, it's just cleaner looking. I hate the way the magnesium/aluminum exterior feels or the texture and Magnesium is a really soft metal and is likely why it gets those micro scratches. I also hate the really hard sharp edges of Mac like laptops, they hurt my hands. I also really want something like the M1 chip in there but Microsoft. Also, why an old school headphone jack? Might as well go with USB-C as well if there's no old school USBs.
Hi Brad, could you please tell us about artist's software compatibility with the M1pro, for instance I haven't seen you use a tablet with it thus knowing if Wacom (or else) are as optimized as on previous generations on softwares like Photoshop. I haven't seen any hands on art review yet on that end and hope you could show us how the M1pro as of today fares for animation artists using the most popular apps from the adobe suite and maybe the M1 beta toonboom storyboard pro or harmony if that's something you're ever using. Cheers.
This is the review I wanted from the day apple announced the M1 pro and M1 max !!
Can this machine edit 4k video without lagging?
I think you need to compare the surface with iPads, Not MacBooks… I never seen any artists using only MacBooks for art…And Even then, they’ll have a Wacom with them… So, this video is not really a fair comparison.
However, my point is that, now apps on iPad are being upgraded to sub-desktop levels… in fact, many apps like procreate and affinity suite are already there. Adobe is still trying to figure it out, but.. Apple allows you to connect your iPad to your MacBook with sidecar, and in a future software update of MacOS Monterey, you’ll get Universal Control. So, you can make your iPad a better external display… And not only that, you said scrolling through videos on Adobe Premiere Pro is kind of choppy, And although, you did admit this is because of premiere, I believe It’s mainly because Premiere is running through Rosetta 2. I think using FCPX for the time-being will fix this issue out for you…
Windows Tablets are poor experiences and I could not recommend them unless you are unwilling to change from default X86 apps that you have used for many years and try something new and better. Though I understand it is sometimes the devil you know? I swapped to macOS and appreciate it and am willing to adapt using native apps and trying different things because Apple Silicon is simply the new future in which others will move to when they catch up in a few years time.
Windows hybrids suck. Apple dominates with their laptops AND tablets. I dont mind 2 dedicated devices, which actually WORK
Brad i have a question.
I am thinking of getting an ipad mini and
can you connect your ipad to draw on your pc like a display tablet?
Mac yes. Windows no.
Astropad is working on a Windows version of their software which should allow you to do this (right now it’s called “Project Blue”). I believe it’s in a public beta stage currently. I use my iPad this way with my MacBook with Astropad Standard (not the subscription version) and it works great.
I'm a Mac guy, not because I like Apple -- I don't much -- but because their products are usually better, if overpriced. Also: I'm a Mac/iOS developer, so yeah, there's that.
But, I think Microsoft are being far more innovative here. If it wasn't for my iOS-only dev work, I could certainly see myself with a Surface Studio.
The real problem is that although Apple hold all the ace cards with chip performance now, their designs have stagnated. Their refusal to allow any form of touch on Macs has really hindered progress.
We shouldn't need a highly expensive iPad AND a Macbook Pro to be able to use Procreate and development on the same machine.
I think we have a diversion in roadmaps, Apple with their non-compromise device per segment which has proved very successful and only a fool would change a winning business model. Apple do not have to take risks or jump on every new gimmick, they are already killing it, whereas MS has failed miserably at smartphones, tablets and hybrids to an extent. It has come to the point the failure of MS that they are finally accepting Android was the way for mobile despite saying the opposite for over a decade! You say innovative, I say desperate, desperate to get some of the market they have missed out on because they did not want to see that Apple had the right ideas and they were way off course. Samsung copied Apple quickly and they are now bigger than ever.
@@andyH_England Microsoft is the biggest company in the world, and owns much of IT.
It's the least "desperate" company I could imagine.
They are trying different things because they can, not because they're desperate.
And by any measure, some of their products look competitive, at least.
@@andyH_England apple innovations had already ended the moment Steve Job went to see his creator.
It’s just the operating software that is keeping me on the apple side. Other companies do more interesting things with their hardware.
in our country, those laptops costs more than twice
i really really really really want the surface studio laptop...but i need xcode :/ so i gotta get the ugly macbook pro
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3 hours at what highest demanding setting anyway if you need touch then MacBook is out of question and it sucks for 2021 laptops other than gaming machines without touch.
The macbook is well more trust worthy in my opinion. I've had both and there's a reliablity issue I have with Windows where it always needs an update, or a driver or something else when you just want to jot down an idea, or quick sketch... that always got to me and in ways the iPad pro fullfilled since it was ALWAYS ready... I've been on the hunt for a all in one device, the Surface Laptop Studio is getting closer to that but with bettter specs and RUNNING MAC OS!
Surface 8?
I'm not sure if these are even comparable for artists, one of them you can draw with, the other one you cannot. That's kind of a dealbreaker I think. According to some of the patents, Apple is working on a device like the Surface Studio. Hopefully one day they bring it out. Call it like the "MacBook Artist" or something.
It’s an interesting comparison… I think both are compelling machines, probably not for me. For art I use my refurb 2018 iPad Pro, and that is also my main computer, but for when I need a more traditional computer, for things like Inkscape and updating my website and stuff I use a 13” M1 MacBook which has all the power I need and then some. So I am a Apple ecosystem person… but the pro and the max are way more than I need. The Surface is much cooler than it’s predecessor, which seemed gimmicky. I am interested in the longevity of the Surface though… Sometimes Microsoft is very innovative and daring in the design without factoring in long time use, wear and tear etc. The hinge looks complicated and expensive to repair… Although it does seem to make a super solid use case, I would be interested to know what it is like to live with long term.
Yep, keep pushing 🍏, they should've create something like Surface Studio for animators/artist, or they could've just makes iMac software available on iPad..i mean, M1 is crazy good..make use of it..push em hard 🤣..
IF Windows we REALLY the winner then why at the end he says he disagrees and actually has the opposite?
The Macbook has
- better screen
- better speakers
- better trackpad
- better ports
- better CPU power
- better thermals & noise
- better battery life
- better webcam
- better weight and size
- better design (bezels, rear)
If he ignores these facts, he is biased.
Because Brad is a smooth operator - he gets to praise the Surface for it's 2-in-1 capabilities (essentially the first category) and in the end mollify his mac-fan viewers that he after all still preferred the macBook.
Everybody gets their word-view (re)confirmed, fewer down-votes, and that's a win-win 🥳..
@@mrt.7146 nailed it right in the head
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