What he’s saying is true, we all can do all of it. Anything any other player can do, we can do too. Keep playing and the natural progression will happen. I saw players in their 30s doing stuff I wanted to do in my 20s. Well I found my self naturally doing those same things as I got closer to my 30s. He’s right, notes are just a small part, you’ll play all the notes you want to eventually just keep playing, it is a language and you’ll speak it better over time
I’ve been learning 2-10 without knowing it. First person I’ve heard in over 40 years stating this so well. I have limited ability regarding notes, but I’ve always leaned on the 2-10 as my notes ability grows with the other bits. This way of thinking has helped my ability to improvise and interact freely with whoever I may being playing with. Thanks for posting this. Surprised not a huge number of views/likes.
If you want to step outside of your own playing the best way is to learn a completely different musical culture. Not talking about go play disco as a metal drummer, even though that is a good thing, but go learn music from a completely different culture, find some guy from Africa who grew up playing music totally independent from western styles. It is truly eye opening to see how much the idea of music can change across cultures. Through the differences you get to see what your own culture is. Like when you go to Asia and get served food with chopsticks it is only then that you realize that you eat food with fork and knife, that is such a common mundane aspect that you never think about it, that is just how it is, you eat food with a fork and knife everybody does it. And with music you can have the same experience by interacting with cultures that developed independently from western influence. Like some cultures don’t use sheet music, they can handle just fine without and some think that writing down music takes the life out of it. In our music world sheet music is completely fundamental to music, music notes are like the most typical representation of music in our culture, 🎶you know I’m singing this because I put notes around it🎶, notation equals music. And that completely shapes how we think of music. Music is a work or a piece, it is an object, it is something somebody creates and manifests on sheet music. This turns music into a presentation of this work with a “right” way to do it. When you don’t use notation music becomes more something you do, it can only exist in the moment played by people, then there is no “wrong” way to play because the piece only exists as it is played.
Yea he is and it absolutely amazed me seeing such a formidable player on upright (and electric!!) ask those "noob questions". Both, Christian and Victor are superb players and human beings.
9:30 and that is where those crazy atonal composers had a point. By removing the notes they exposed everything else that makes up music and it is so much. It seems like a restriction to only use 12 noted in one particular pattern but it actually is ridiculously freeing. You can still use all the rhythm you want, you can invert and retrograde the pattern, since it uses all twelve notes any transposition results in the same pattern and all twelve notes. You can make short notes, long notes, clusters, arpeggios, ghost notes, loud, soft, etc. Because you can’t think about scales or standard harmonies you are forced to think about everything else. To make it sound less atonal you can of course decide to do the same thing but with six notes instead of twelve. Then you still get rid of the standard tonal theory perspective while maintaining a more forgiving sound pallet.
What he’s saying is true, we all can do all of it. Anything any other player can do, we can do too. Keep playing and the natural progression will happen. I saw players in their 30s doing stuff I wanted to do in my 20s. Well I found my self naturally doing those same things as I got closer to my 30s. He’s right, notes are just a small part, you’ll play all the notes you want to eventually just keep playing, it is a language and you’ll speak it better over time
I’ve been learning 2-10 without knowing it. First person I’ve heard in over 40 years stating this so well. I have limited ability regarding notes, but I’ve always leaned on the 2-10 as my notes ability grows with the other bits. This way of thinking has helped my ability to improvise and interact freely with whoever I may being playing with.
Thanks for posting this. Surprised not a huge number of views/likes.
Thanks for posting!
how much was his masterclass?
i would love to see him play with Mark King of level 42!
If you want to step outside of your own playing the best way is to learn a completely different musical culture. Not talking about go play disco as a metal drummer, even though that is a good thing, but go learn music from a completely different culture, find some guy from Africa who grew up playing music totally independent from western styles. It is truly eye opening to see how much the idea of music can change across cultures. Through the differences you get to see what your own culture is. Like when you go to Asia and get served food with chopsticks it is only then that you realize that you eat food with fork and knife, that is such a common mundane aspect that you never think about it, that is just how it is, you eat food with a fork and knife everybody does it.
And with music you can have the same experience by interacting with cultures that developed independently from western influence.
Like some cultures don’t use sheet music, they can handle just fine without and some think that writing down music takes the life out of it. In our music world sheet music is completely fundamental to music, music notes are like the most typical representation of music in our culture, 🎶you know I’m singing this because I put notes around it🎶, notation equals music.
And that completely shapes how we think of music. Music is a work or a piece, it is an object, it is something somebody creates and manifests on sheet music. This turns music into a presentation of this work with a “right” way to do it.
When you don’t use notation music becomes more something you do, it can only exist in the moment played by people, then there is no “wrong”
way to play because the piece only exists as it is played.
So accurate mate 🔥
This is good stuff.
Gold!
Wow
18:23 Yo pretty sure that is Christian McBride, crazy
Yea he is and it absolutely amazed me seeing such a formidable player on upright (and electric!!) ask those "noob questions". Both, Christian and Victor are superb players and human beings.
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what year was this video? amazing
9:30 and that is where those crazy atonal composers had a point. By removing the notes they exposed everything else that makes up music and it is so much.
It seems like a restriction to only use 12 noted in one particular pattern but it actually is ridiculously freeing. You can still use all the rhythm you want, you can invert and retrograde the pattern, since it uses all twelve notes any transposition results in the same pattern and all twelve notes. You can make short notes, long notes, clusters, arpeggios, ghost notes, loud, soft, etc.
Because you can’t think about scales or standard harmonies you are forced to think about everything else.
To make it sound less atonal you can of course decide to do the same thing but with six notes instead of twelve. Then you still get rid of the standard tonal theory perspective while maintaining a more forgiving sound pallet.
What year was this?