Florda citrus, have you done anything as of yet? Have been watching and see many areas were the drone will work, also what about a electro charge partice for drift conrol.
There is a lot he didn't mention with the Hylio, he stated there's no warning when the Hylio takes off, which isn't true. On the software you actually have to arm the drone first before takeoff. This is a safety feature the DJI doesn't have. Also running the Hylio we've been able to cover more acres per day with the smaller 130 then the DJI T40. Best case we've seen with the T40 is 23-25 acres and hour but with the Hylio 130, smaller drone, we've been able to reach 27-29 acres per hour, the 272 is even higher at closer to 50-55 acres per hour. Also he didn't mention spray patterns, with the T40 you have 2 centrifugal nozzles that cause a whirl wind effect, which can create serious problems in somewhat windy conditions and cause erratic spray patterns. The Hylio has your regular T nozzle and the downforce from the blades keep the product going straight down. The DJI we've had a lot of issues with pumps failing as well as engines failing, having parts overnighted to us at 500$ a pop isn't the right answer. Hylio has been much better on getting us parts when we need it as well as they have signed up a dealer close to us give us the attention we need.
@@hehe-mq2bk Then why is there so much vortex patterns from their nozzles? The USDA oversaw a competitive test of the DJI, XAG, and Hylio. It's out there and it shows that the Hylio has a much better spray pattern. You are getting just too much vortex patterns with the DJI nozzles.
@pedro199518 we own a 272 and you can do up to 2.5 gals and up to a 40 swath. The swath depends a lot on how high you are above the crop. Max flying speed is 28 mph but it's all going to depend on the application.
Well everyone, my Son received 2 Hylio AG 230 drones. It only took him two days to get ready to apply materials. Smooth as silk. We will stick with buy American
i heard the parts of the Hylio aren't wholly Ameican though. I think the controller is made in Taiwan and assembled in China. Reason why it is NDAA is due to exemption rather than by avbiding by rules.
@@hehe-mq2bk It'd be trivial to switch assembly to US, and the servers and stuff are in the US. On the day China invades Taiwan, Hylio will still work while who tf knows what the DJI drone will do.
I dont think DJI will be banned. I think they will just have a stronger legislation to not use them on government or federally funded grounds. Most farms in America are privately held.
Alright I run ag 272s you forgot to talk about swarm vs none sworn mode. 5 guys no you need new test pilots lol You already have your nozzels laying between the drone landing points 1 person carries 2 batteries out sets them down puts nozzel in drone 20 gal minute pump turn on go swap 1 battery 20 seconds then the other click pump off walk back with both batteries start. 1 min 30 seconds to do with 1 guy however both platforms are way way to small. Both need massive improvements that will be coming. Just 1 field is 960 acres of crop. You are working hard to do all this though. Need 50 to 60. Gallon tanks and none swap batteries with 10 to 15 min charge times. Good comparison for the most part. Well done.
I’m happy someone else doesn’t have blinders on. Glad to see comparisons of these drones, but Jesus Christ was this heavily slanted towards DJI. Your refill “competition” could have been informative, but you seemed to give no credit to the fact that the Hylio tank is almost twice the capacity. No wonder it’d be slower to turnaround in between flights. There’s also going to be less refills with the bigger capacity. Does that make the refill times wash out? And one person can almost certainly handle both batteries in an efficient time, saying it takes 5 people only belies the bias apparent throughout. And then there’s what I would have considered the most important part of a video like this. Actual efficiency… Which drone covered more acres in the same amount of time? Over how many flights? The safety concerns are noted, though seem a touch overblown. The software issues though, that could be a pain if valid and I would have liked to see more of your focus there. It does seem much more straightforward to tell the drone the desired gpa rate and have it sort out the details. All that being said, this video should hopefully have a sequel in the future when the T-50 gets to the states. That’d be a more apt comparison than this.
@@timwerner2059 Yeah it looks like they have a crew of Mennonites running the Hylio? Whats up with that. No offense or anything but it seems like thats why they have 5 people on it the whole family is working together there. I'm sure that's not actually necessary
I wonder what will happen to these guys if that DJI ban goes through. It really looks like it's going to. I don't know a whole lot about Hylio but are there even any other American brands aside from them? Might be the only choice here in a few months. Imagine spending 50k on a setup and having the govt ban it a month later
It is my understanding that the "black listing" effects any government project only. The industry here in the US seems to be ignoring this situation and possible complications.
@@RenaissanceThinking I believe you are somewhat correct. It is my understanding the "black listing" is for surveillance drones in Government contracts. Not AG. I could be wrong.
@@kellydollinger3403 I was working on a contract with my local USDA/NRSA office and was told the blacklisting covered all drones for all new federal government contracts. Now you and I both can guess what reality is, but it is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed.
Not true. Hylio has low tank level sensors. My Son and I went to the factory in TX. The units are built complete in the US and employ a bunch of good people.
After watching the video, which was made and paid for by DJI Agras, it is obvious that the Hylio is better. When you add the massive price difference that the expensive DJI will set you back and the fact that Hylio is a US company, the choice is a no brainer..
I'm not sure you and I watched the same video. Yes, the video was made by DJI Agras yet the negatives of the Hylio AG 272 were plainly given. For me the choice became plain with the word CHYNA, those fine people that also brought us Covid. It's obvious if one has no brain then thinking that Made in Chyna, assembled in America does not mean "made in the US." DJI is an American company, too. So what's your point? As stated above you didn't take all the costs into the equation. Also the need for 5 crew versus 2 is a huge difference in the cost of doing business. And at 500# I don't see me loading it without at least 3 crew, a crane or lift of some kind.
@EduruChan is it? If it is why can I out spray a T40 with my AG-230? That's a much smaller model then the 272. I'm sorry but the T40 isn't better and it's been proven. USDA did a non biased comparison and that data shows the AG-230 and 272 out sprayed it.
Something you didn't mention which is also important is that the Hylio controller, which is a generic controller, has no hot swap battery and will not last a full day, 4-5 hours if you have screen brightness at 50% which makes the screen almost not visible in daylight. We have that controller with a completely different device, and it has the older micro-usb port, is very slow to charge and we have to either have a pocket juice battery tethered to it or taped to the controller. In some defense of its ruggedness, we've had no issues there and we've operated in sub-zero temperatures with it so while not IP rated like the DJI controller its not horrid. Also the camera going out is because that controller only supports a very weak 2.4ghz wifi video signal transmission system vs DJI's much more robust system. The controller is made in Taiwan and assembled in China, you will see that controller mentioned as NDAA or Blue UAS but that is only because it was given an exemption not because it still isn't made/assembled in china.
I'd like to add Hylios under manual control maneuver like an old cargo ship. In contrast, the DJIs are so responsive in manual control you could almost do acrobatics.
There is a lot he didn't mention with the Hylio, he stated there's no warning when the Hylio takes off, which isn't true. On the software you actually have to arm the drone first before takeoff. This is a safety feature the DJI doesn't have. Also running the Hylio we've been able to cover more acres per day with the smaller 130 then the DJI T40. Best case we've seen with the T40 is 23-25 acres and hour but with the Hylio 130, smaller drone, we've been able to reach 27-29 acres per hour, the 272 is even higher at closer to 50-55 acres per hour. Also he didn't mention spray patterns, with the T40 you have 2 centrifugal nozzles that cause a whirl wind effect, which can create serious problems in somewhat windy conditions and cause erratic spray patterns. The Hylio has your regular T nozzle and the downforce from the blades keep the product going straight down. The DJI we've had a lot of issues with pumps failing as well as engines failing, having parts overnighted to us at 500$ a pop isn't the right answer. Hylio has been much better on getting us parts when we need it as well as they have signed up a dealer close to us give us the attention we need.
So glad I chose to run the T40 on my farm. The price difference alone is enough reason for me to go AGRAS. I love mine so far.
Ballpark cost?
What was the price of the T40?
@@juniormarshallhastings723 38k full ready to spray kit
@mid9ine How much is that in United States dollars?
Nothing mentioned about what tips were used and swath width. Did Hylio have any representation? Seems to be a slanted comparison.
I don't even know what a farm looks like in real life yet I'm binge-watching these drone videos. I can't be the only one....
Been waiting for this comparison since I started looking at buy drone a drone for an application business.
Great job. This video was very informative. Thank you for the information.
Florda citrus, have you done anything as of yet? Have been watching and see many areas were the drone will work, also what about a electro charge partice for drift conrol.
There is a lot he didn't mention with the Hylio, he stated there's no warning when the Hylio takes off, which isn't true. On the software you actually have to arm the drone first before takeoff. This is a safety feature the DJI doesn't have. Also running the Hylio we've been able to cover more acres per day with the smaller 130 then the DJI T40. Best case we've seen with the T40 is 23-25 acres and hour but with the Hylio 130, smaller drone, we've been able to reach 27-29 acres per hour, the 272 is even higher at closer to 50-55 acres per hour.
Also he didn't mention spray patterns, with the T40 you have 2 centrifugal nozzles that cause a whirl wind effect, which can create serious problems in somewhat windy conditions and cause erratic spray patterns. The Hylio has your regular T nozzle and the downforce from the blades keep the product going straight down.
The DJI we've had a lot of issues with pumps failing as well as engines failing, having parts overnighted to us at 500$ a pop isn't the right answer. Hylio has been much better on getting us parts when we need it as well as they have signed up a dealer close to us give us the attention we need.
The DJI t40's nozzle can be changed to have a more precise and powerful downard force.
@@hehe-mq2bk Then why is there so much vortex patterns from their nozzles? The USDA oversaw a competitive test of the DJI, XAG, and Hylio. It's out there and it shows that the Hylio has a much better spray pattern. You are getting just too much vortex patterns with the DJI nozzles.
@@ZinnNastyImao you are lying and just a hater…
@EduruChan have you flown either of them? If you have you'd know there's a huge difference.
@@ZinnNasty I did.
I would really love to know the swatch width from the Helio and the max application speed
2 gallon hylio an acre 21mph we go 35 foot swath 13 foot elevation
@@kordramberg5132 Thanks🙂
@pedro199518 we own a 272 and you can do up to 2.5 gals and up to a 40 swath. The swath depends a lot on how high you are above the crop. Max flying speed is 28 mph but it's all going to depend on the application.
Around 40 ft and my average speed is around 18mph
Wait time for a Hylio is almost a year long. You can get a T40 in days.
That beautiful dji software. Looks good to
Can we get a video showing more of your trailer setup used in this video ?
We have one that will be releasing soon!
Well everyone, my Son received 2 Hylio AG 230 drones. It only took him two days to get ready to apply materials. Smooth as silk. We will stick with buy American
2? Does that mean it takes two operators? I'm looking into the idea where I could run multiple of these sync through the program by myself.
i heard the parts of the Hylio aren't wholly Ameican though. I think the controller is made in Taiwan and assembled in China. Reason why it is NDAA is due to exemption rather than by avbiding by rules.
@@hehe-mq2bk It'd be trivial to switch assembly to US, and the servers and stuff are in the US. On the day China invades Taiwan, Hylio will still work while who tf knows what the DJI drone will do.
@@TheAnachronistbs…
@@hehe-mq2bk Do they even make exemptions on NDAA? I'm not sure I know they do use a different controller now they make
If the bill to ban DJI drones in the US passes what happens to all that money invested in T40s?
I dont think DJI will be banned. I think they will just have a stronger legislation to not use them on government or federally funded grounds. Most farms in America are privately held.
How long will the batteries last on the Hylio? Will they last for the whole tank?
Mine do.
Idk if I can wait the full 7 days.....
Alright I run ag 272s you forgot to talk about swarm vs none sworn mode. 5 guys no you need new test pilots lol You already have your nozzels laying between the drone landing points 1 person carries 2 batteries out sets them down puts nozzel in drone 20 gal minute pump turn on go swap 1 battery 20 seconds then the other click pump off walk back with both batteries start. 1 min 30 seconds to do with 1 guy however both platforms are way way to small. Both need massive improvements that will be coming. Just 1 field is 960 acres of crop.
You are working hard to do all this though. Need 50 to 60. Gallon tanks and none swap batteries with 10 to 15 min charge times. Good comparison for the most part. Well done.
Your writing gave me an anxiety attack.
Good.😂
I’m happy someone else doesn’t have blinders on.
Glad to see comparisons of these drones, but Jesus Christ was this heavily slanted towards DJI.
Your refill “competition” could have been informative, but you seemed to give no credit to the fact that the Hylio tank is almost twice the capacity. No wonder it’d be slower to turnaround in between flights. There’s also going to be less refills with the bigger capacity. Does that make the refill times wash out? And one person can almost certainly handle both batteries in an efficient time, saying it takes 5 people only belies the bias apparent throughout.
And then there’s what I would have considered the most important part of a video like this. Actual efficiency… Which drone covered more acres in the same amount of time? Over how many flights?
The safety concerns are noted, though seem a touch overblown. The software issues though, that could be a pain if valid and I would have liked to see more of your focus there. It does seem much more straightforward to tell the drone the desired gpa rate and have it sort out the details.
All that being said, this video should hopefully have a sequel in the future when the T-50 gets to the states. That’d be a more apt comparison than this.
@@timwerner2059 Yeah it looks like they have a crew of Mennonites running the Hylio? Whats up with that. No offense or anything but it seems like thats why they have 5 people on it the whole family is working together there. I'm sure that's not actually necessary
Do you sell both?
We only sell the DJI products currently.
I wonder what will happen to these guys if that DJI ban goes through. It really looks like it's going to. I don't know a whole lot about Hylio but are there even any other American brands aside from them? Might be the only choice here in a few months. Imagine spending 50k on a setup and having the govt ban it a month later
I'd like to know more about DJI the company. Seems as a company they are blacklisted in United States.
It is my understanding that the "black listing" effects any government project only. The industry here in the US seems to be ignoring this situation and possible complications.
@@RenaissanceThinking I believe you are somewhat correct. It is my understanding the "black listing" is for surveillance drones in Government contracts. Not AG. I could be wrong.
@@kellydollinger3403 I was working on a contract with my local USDA/NRSA office and was told the blacklisting covered all drones for all new federal government contracts. Now you and I both can guess what reality is, but it is definitely an issue that needs to be addressed.
lol. You Yanks are going to sanction yourselves out of prosperity. Foot = shot
Not true. Hylio has low tank level sensors. My Son and I went to the factory in TX. The units are built complete in the US and employ a bunch of good people.
Nope…they hired all bad ppl
After watching the video, which was made and paid for by DJI Agras, it is obvious that the Hylio is better. When you add the massive price difference that the expensive DJI will set you back and the fact that Hylio is a US company, the choice is a no brainer..
Huh? The Hylio 272 is over 2 times the price of the Agras T-40 after batteries and chargers
I'm not sure you and I watched the same video. Yes, the video was made by DJI Agras yet the negatives of the Hylio AG 272 were plainly given. For me the choice became plain with the word CHYNA, those fine people that also brought us Covid. It's obvious if one has no brain then thinking that Made in Chyna, assembled in America does not mean "made in the US." DJI is an American company, too. So what's your point?
As stated above you didn't take all the costs into the equation. Also the need for 5 crew versus 2 is a huge difference in the cost of doing business. And at 500# I don't see me loading it without at least 3 crew, a crane or lift of some kind.
@@rgrim7409c0vld is made in
America
Let’s call a spade a spade 😂. Agras T40 > Hylio AG-272 all factors considered.
That's not true at all, there a lot he didn't mention in this video.
@@ZinnNastythat’s a fact..t40
Is better
@EduruChan is it? If it is why can I out spray a T40 with my AG-230? That's a much smaller model then the 272. I'm sorry but the T40 isn't better and it's been proven. USDA did a non biased comparison and that data shows the AG-230 and 272 out sprayed it.
@@ZinnNasty I am using both for my farm and T40 is better, T50 is even better.
@EduruChan lol, no you're not. How much is DJI paying you to post nonsense?
Sounds like the Hylio guys need much more investment and technical talent
DJI can carry me to work 10 minutes away
Spray drones will never be practical until they are fully autonomous.
Nobody wants to babysit a drone all day, filling tanks and swapping batteries.
chi
Something you didn't mention which is also important is that the Hylio controller, which is a generic controller, has no hot swap battery and will not last a full day, 4-5 hours if you have screen brightness at 50% which makes the screen almost not visible in daylight.
We have that controller with a completely different device, and it has the older micro-usb port, is very slow to charge and we have to either have a pocket juice battery tethered to it or taped to the controller.
In some defense of its ruggedness, we've had no issues there and we've operated in sub-zero temperatures with it so while not IP rated like the DJI controller its not horrid. Also the camera going out is because that controller only supports a very weak 2.4ghz wifi video signal transmission system vs DJI's much more robust system.
The controller is made in Taiwan and assembled in China, you will see that controller mentioned as NDAA or Blue UAS but that is only because it was given an exemption not because it still isn't made/assembled in china.
I'd like to add Hylios under manual control maneuver like an old cargo ship. In contrast, the DJIs are so responsive in manual control you could almost do acrobatics.
There is a lot he didn't mention with the Hylio, he stated there's no warning when the Hylio takes off, which isn't true. On the software you actually have to arm the drone first before takeoff. This is a safety feature the DJI doesn't have. Also running the Hylio we've been able to cover more acres per day with the smaller 130 then the DJI T40. Best case we've seen with the T40 is 23-25 acres and hour but with the Hylio 130, smaller drone, we've been able to reach 27-29 acres per hour, the 272 is even higher at closer to 50-55 acres per hour.
Also he didn't mention spray patterns, with the T40 you have 2 centrifugal nozzles that cause a whirl wind effect, which can create serious problems in somewhat windy conditions and cause erratic spray patterns. The Hylio has your regular T nozzle and the downforce from the blades keep the product going straight down.
The DJI we've had a lot of issues with pumps failing as well as engines failing, having parts overnighted to us at 500$ a pop isn't the right answer. Hylio has been much better on getting us parts when we need it as well as they have signed up a dealer close to us give us the attention we need.
@@ZinnNastybs
I think they use a different controller now