What Happened To Stewart-Haas Racing?
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- Опубликовано: 26 мар 2023
- 2009-2020 seemed to be the good ole days of Stewart-Haas Racing. Since 2021 the team hasn't been the same and is irrelevant regarding the championship. Leaving NASCAR fans to ask what happened to SHR?
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I’ll tell you what happened: Fall Martinsville 2020 didn’t just break Kevin Harvick; it broke the entirety of SHR.
I'd argue the 2020 Hollywood Casino 400 at Kansas where Harvick got screwed by dirty air
But look at the others that same season: Cole stole a win and then had like 1 more top ten all season, Aric snuck into the playoffs winless, and Clint was floating around the cut line all season.
SHR is a mid-tier team that’s been fortunate to have a couple amazing drivers prop them up.
@@danielwest9955 or it’s a top tier team with mid drivers
He could've should've pulled a Hail Melon 😂🍉
I mean Kevin is the entire SHR Organization so I mean if he broke than the whole team is broke
if Kevin Harvick is having lower back pain, it’s not bc he’s old…
…it’s bc he’s doing the work to carry all of SHR
And RCR for 12 years after Dale passed
When you have such heavy cajones, that will happen.
I think the development of drivers is the issue. They didn’t give Suarez a second year, they didn’t give Cole Custer a new crew chief and they put all their eggs into the basket of Kevin Harvick.
It isn’t too late for them to turn it around but they need the help to come from within. Investing more into Chase Briscoe and, if he keeps up his results in Xfinity, maybe calling Riley Herbst up could do that.
Either way, they’ve needed to make a huge change in their lineup for years and Harvick’s retirement could be the chance for them to hit the reset button.
Cole Custer needed to go. He was great in Xfinity but as we have seen this year that greatness is no more. And he is getting destroyed by Riley Herbst. Cole won 1 race and past that made no meaningful preformances and made ALOT of mistakes
It early in the season for Custer
Or potentially Zane Smith. He’s got plenty of talent, and even in SHR’s current state they have better equipment than the 38 car
Funny enough, it kind of mirrors Haas F1 to some degree. Didn't change their driver lineup for years, got a team sponsor that didn't have any money, finally changed their lineup to all rookies and then gave up on both rookies for various reasons.
Its strange to see that driver development is a problem for two teams that have Gene Haas' backing.
@@craigstephenson7676 Zane smith should go to xfinity for a full year next year for shr!
Harvick is the only reason the team is even competitive at the moment. When he retires they're done for.
Well you never know they could pull off a Hendrick for all we know
@@xavierjuno4572 there is still time for one of their drivers to go on an 8 race tear.
I think you’re correct. But it could also be needed for the teams rebuild. It’s hard to rebuild a team when you have a team trying to win a championship. When Harvick does eventually leave, they can start from the bottom and completely rebuild.
Harvick is the only reason the team has even been competitive for the last decade.
Kevin Harvick single Handley carrying SHR on his back
What happened was Kevin Harvicks back finally broke from carrying the team for so long and plus NASCAR took the advantage they found in 2020 away cause they didn’t like the fords kicking Chevy and Toyotas butts had a lot to do with it. But also them wiffing on free agent drivers doesn’t help either
I'll never forget when Ford vetoed Larson (Stewart wanted to sign him for the 2021 season).
They always take big advantages away. The wheel wells were being modified to get that advantage. Big aero and tire wear advantage. They managed to take away HMS engine advantage now.
It’s painful to see SHR continue to have more DisHAASters :(
Ahhh I see what you did
It’s because of Gene Haas.
Yeah your comment says why.
@@Tobytony65 I wish it was a joke, but sadly that’s not the case
@@liltwizz_07 wasn’t meant to be a joke
I would argue that both owners also are in other forms of motorsports Hass F1 and Stewart NHRA could also be a factor as well. Plus Tony with the SRX it might have started to catch up to them as well.
And the WOO team and the All Stars tour Tony owns.
I agree. With both owners trying to get those other programs going it's like they are spending more money trying to get those programs going that they forgot about the cup side of things. It's probably why Harvick is retiring.
SHR will be a shell of their former selves once Harvick retires
I think technically, ever since the end of 2020, they've been sinking like a tungsten brick in the Marianas Trench. Harvick shows strides, Aric and Briscoe have had some success (Briscoe almost making the Final 4 in 2022 is nothing to sneeze at) but have struggled a lot, but Custer and Preece are for sure outliers. Custer has talent, but I don't think the team had the equipment to get him really cooking. And look at Preece so far this year - has had bad break either on track or mechanically. He damn near should have won the Clash if the car didn't break on him.
They're really putting their eggs in the #4 car basket and it shows. It's not fair to the other drivers.
Tony should've not let Suarez go away.
@@thetechfromheaven I don’t blame them for letting Suarez walk, dude missed the playoffs when Kurt Busch went to the round of 8 the previous year
I wouldn’t say strides. Harvick has consistently shown speed and the only driver worth a damn at SHR
I am not sure if they are putting more effort into Harvick or if he is just miles better than everyone else on the team. Not even Kurt Busch could compete with him when they all had top tier equipment in the same team. Let's not forget, Harvick has been the best SHR car at season's end every year barring last season since 2014. And even that was only because of a 100 point deduction and 2 mechanical failures in the first round of the Chase.
@@asareireneHarvick is actually the only driver in the multi-car era who has had a winning record against every teammate he's ever had for more than one week.
Kurt Busch was really great there but I think Harvick got the best equipment and he ended up getting frustrated and left. That’s what I’ve heard come up a lot. He probably won a lot more races there.
That’s right
I think SHR going to Ford in 2017 was a good move in the short term and a bad one long term.
Ford is notorious for shooting themselves in the foot over and over I have to agree
Agreed. 2018 showed us where Ford's priorities lie. In the first 24 races, SHR won 10 times while Penske only won once. In the last 12 races, Penske won 6 times and won the championship while SHR only won twice. When it comes to crunch time, Ford has Penske's back.
I loved Jeff Gordon years ago as a kid and stopped watching NASCAR a few years before he retired. Coming back to NASCAR I started to cheer for Briscoe and was happy with how his 2022 went. This year has been rough and its really that car. It doesn't have much in it.
Yeah as a Briscoe fan it’s so aggravating to see him be put in a crappy car week after week. He has been given shamefully bad cars this year. It makes me think that they’re just putting effort into Harvicks team
As a fan that has been with Stewart-Haas Racing, I can see several issues straight off the bat: 1) Driver development: they have rushed guys up and gave up on Daniel Suarez way too quickly, and kinda rushed Cole Custer up too fast, but luckily they have Preece and Briscoe in their back pocket, and it'll be exciting to see how that works out 2) Ownership and Managment style: Tony and Gene being involved in other projects that take up most of their time to where they have like 15 minutes to focus on SHR, has kind of taken its toll, and forcing Harvick to carry the organization on his back all these years, you got the impression that it was only going to work for so long, and look at what happened in 2020 at Martinsville.
Now the positives: Riley Herbst has been on fire as the only driver in the Xfinity Series to finish in the top ten in all of the races this season, and definitely keep an eye on him to get hot, because he has potential, for sure. Chase Briscoe, while showing flashes of potential, give him the right equipment and you'll be amazed with what he can do. I wouldn't quite throw in the towel on Preece yet, however. The season is still very young, so I think it would be a little unfair to write him off completely at this point. And in terms of reorganization at SHR, I like to think of when Tony was racing for JGR 2005 and 2011, a little bit of refocus and SHR will definitely be on the list of teams to watch out for in the near future....
Also let's hope Herbst doesn't get rushed into the cup series just like Danica and Cole Custer.
@@kalebmiller2914 definitely
They never should have left Chevy!! They didn't want to be second fiddle to Hendrick Motorsports. But I think they should have stayed!!
Well tony is having fun elsewhere in a different series along with his wife
They tried to do what Hendrick did and failed MISERABLY
The old trying to be successful. How pitiful
Something shr could do is try and sign Corey heim since he likely won't get a jgr ride
Sick remix of the song from Nascar Thunder 2003
Under the original points system, Harvick would've been the champion in 2015, 2016, and 2020. SHR absolutely dominated... until the end of 2020.
SHR is on the fast track to going back to the back-marker team Haas was by itself before Tony’s involvement.
It seems it's taking the Roush route right now. Veteran drivers like Mark, Matt, Kurt, Greg, and Carl carried the team for years and then once they went to other teams it declined. The same is happening to SHR. Kurt and Harvick carried it once Tony declined. Then Kurt leaves and Harvick carries it with a victory here and there from Aric, Chase, and Cole but not much else. Briscoe still has a lot of years left in him though as well as Cole though he isn't having the best luck at the moment in Xfinity. Who would have thought Herbst would be performing the best on the Xfinity side right now. Lol.
Busch won only 6 races during 5 years at SHR, I doubt anyone would accuse him of carrying the team.
I love the Get Away instrumental as the background music in this video.
But, I think the downfall was bound to happen after the domination from 2014 to 2020.
I think they'll be back in about 2-3 years, but we don't know.
And its not gonna get better for SHR after Harvick retires. Two sponsors potentially leaving SHR after this season. Would leave two of their cars sponsorless and the free agent driver pool isn't good either.
I love Tony but he has too many irons in the fire. I told him at the inaugural srx race in 2021 he needed to go kick some butt to his teams. He told me nothing he could say could help his team. I was so upset to hear that. They need a committed team owner. It starts at the top.
He could fire all of them but then he wouldn't have a team. They are in trouble after Harvick retires.
SHR contending the overall NASCAR Tank Cup Series. It’s sad that this team was scary to it’s only Harvick dragging tanks
I hope Briscoe and Preece get haas back on top though young they have potential
Edit: uhhhhhhh…..
Edit 2: Alr Gragson and Berry will help SHR
I think it's definitely the organization not the drivers
@@xavierjuno4572 Preece is horrible though he got destroyed by Stenhouse at JTG
@@iTmSims I mean JTG was probably prioritizing stenhouse over him plus he's really talented when given competitive equipment which HAAS isn't at the moment
@@xavierjuno4572 tbf i also think Ricky would out perform him in the 41. People seem to forget when Ricky was at Roush they were garbage, he hasnt really had much for quality equipment in cup. He's a better driver than people give him credit for.
@@iTmSims stankhouse was in a chartered car
Kevin Harvicks back must be sore from all that carrying he's had to do.
In the long run it seems like leaving chevy was their biggest mistake. Pre 2017 SHR was a top 3 team , now they're a C-Tier team with the exception of Harvick
Harvick's success in a Ford has masked that the team as a whole has struggled since the switch. Outside of 2018 where they got all 4 cars in the round of 8, the team has barely been competitive with the Ford switch. Kurt Busch had a mediocre 2017 outside of his Daytona 500 championship, none of the other cars won in 2019, Custer was the only driver besides Harvick to win 2020 (and that proved to be a fluke), 2021 was a mess, with Almirola pulling a fluke win as their only win, and they were aggressively mid in 2022. So far, that hasn't changed this year. Leaving Chevy was a terrible decision
@@DepravedCoTApologisti wouldnt say Custer's win was a fluke. his Xfinity stats at Kentucky were pretty good. but if this were any other track I'd 100% agree
I mean after 2018 did anyone expect Chevy to be where they are now?
call me crazy but I think they should go after Lajoie next year
they should indeed
Harvick spinning out Kyle and himself will always be the funniest NASCAR moment for me
Nepotism of keeping Cole Custer as long as they did while allowing guys like Kyle Busch, Kyle Larson, and Tyler Reddick go elsewhere didn't help at all
I wasn't expecting the NASCAR 2003 callback in the video. Get Away is such a nostalgic song.
Went to Ford and put rich kids in the cars that didn't deserve it. Basically the problem with nascar
What rich kids
SHR Demise simply came down to The Next Gen Car -- SHR had the best engineers, equipment to build parts and people to put the parts together. Then Single source showed up and as they say the rest is history. Frustrating is a word that comes to mind.
This comment was made after the announcement of Stewart Haas shutting down after 2024. I can't believe it man. It's all over
It has nothing to do with the topic of the video but I love the “get away” instrumental from nascar thunder 2003
I hope Josh berry will bring something to the table in the cup series
stewart haas at their best, was with harvick, busch and stewart. This potential was never realized as stewart never really got back from his broken leg, but kurt was on the brink of the homestead final 4 before getting put in the wall. They were all top tier racing minds with years of experience and fast on track data. I think when they had to rely more on bowyer, almirola and the likes after kurt left was when SHR became solely a one man show.
And no team/driver can stand to be sole breadwinner for very long and still succeed in this current climate of nascar anyways
Tyler Reddick is about to find that out real fast. I think that's why he left RCR.
Appreciated the nascar thunder 2003 vibes
Glad someone else caught it
I can't help but wonder if they are gonna be done after this year. I could see them selling their charters and calling it quits.
Give them a couple more years after Harvick retires and poor performance and no sponsorship before that happens. When it does Dale Jr. will buy those charters.
Love your vids bfm
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Another reason could be Smoke. Is he as involved? Haas CNC was a back marker with Jeff Green and Johnny Sauter. With the SRX and now his NHRA program, Smoke may not be running the ship like a Rick Hendrick does and so they’re regressing to the 66 and 70 era of Haas.
It's about to get even worse next year.
I have a bad feeling that Preece, whilst he's a good Modified driver/racer, is going to possibly end up being a NASCAR Bust...
Well this is his first year back so let's give him sometime and see what happens
@@xavierjuno4572 Agreed. 🤞
I honestly think Gene Haas is holding them back and to a lesser extent Ford. Haas has never cared about his racing teams. Do we not forget how bad Haas was before Tony? I think if he gets out they’ll be better. Preece and Briscoe aren’t bad drivers .
Ya man it's seems there just let down by there equipment
I think Tony and Gene are not seeing eye to eye anymore and it’s causing tension in the garage.
Do you think Cory lajoie will be able get in one of these cars
I think it stems from Gene Haas being to busy with F1 and Tony being to preoccupied with his wife and the new NHRA team
This subject has so many layers. The 10 car only races because it gets sponsor’s. Patrick and AA would never win a championship. I don’t think Stewart and Hass don’t agree on much as far as drivers go. Good thing Harvick got paired with Rodney C. I do like Ryan Preese,and Chase B. Will see.
That 2020 season showed why the playoffs are an absolute joke of a system. Harvick deserved to run away with that championship.
What happened is a couple legendary drivers went off and had amazing years.
Look at the rest of those cats from ‘09-present. It was never anything special.
Even when Harvick & Tony we’re winning, the rest were scraping around near the playoff cutoff with a few exceptions.
When Kevin And Aric leave they would lose over 95% of there sponsorship
Briscoe is the only other driver with full sponsorship
The rest is from Tony And Gene
They don’t have any drivers except Kevin
It's all good, they have an *INSPIRATIONAL* talent in Preece to build off of for the future! 😈🐐😤👑
*I swear to god if anyone actually takes this seriously....*
To all you kids who take it seriously
Ryan Preece’s words: “DoN’t Do ThAt”
Preece has potential and if you don't think that you have 0 wheel knowledge
@@andrewdotmp4 fr
2018 fall talladega was probably the best shr race I remember
That was the most dominant race SHR put together as a whole team
Tony Stewart met Leah pruett. Same thing happened when evernham motorsports
2020 just shattered the teams confidence
That’s not the only thing Haas got shattered in 2020
Remember when everyone was mad that Harvick was leaving chevy for ford saying "its a bad fit"? Jokes on them. His best run of his career is in a ford.
I feel like when Harvick retires after Phoenix this November, SHR would underperform for years to come whether Herbst goes to Cup, Custer some how improves in Xfinity if he moves back to Cup or if Deegan moves up to Xfinity.
Deegan isn't going anywhere. She has better equipment and she's with a playoff team and still isn't doing anything. She was overhyped because she won an ARCA race or 2.
I feel it's both a momentum shift from SHR to Hendrick, and one from Ford to Chevy, as well.
I don't know if it's the reason but it didn't help that Gene Haas also decided to go into Formula 1 as well. I would not be surprised if Gene Haas leaves both NASCAR and F1 at the same time.
It also doesn't help when Tony is doing the SRX thing along with his wife's funny car team.
@@Jdfuller82 That’s right, forgot about Tony’s other ventures as well. Maybe they should sell the team.
If I was SHR I would do a complete rebuild in 2024. It will take time for them to get to victory lane. Maybe by 2026. But if they play their cards right, they can probably get to victory lane quicker with this lineup:
4: Josh Berry has shown that he can drive a cup car and keep it out of trouble. If SHR can land him, they’ll have a future to build upon with their Xfinity program.
10: Ryan Preece moves from the 41 to the 10. Preece can drive a race car and knows how to get the job done. But driving the 41 isn’t gonna help him get a multi win season.
14: Chase Briscoe stays in the 14 as he shows promise and can stay on track when he’s not getting into trouble. I think he’ll get. Win or two next year now that he will most likely get the top priority of the team.
41: I think it’s best for the 41 to be a developmental team with drivers like Custer and Herbst getting to share a ride while also giving other drivers not in nascar, a good team and car to compete for a possible win. I’d think of it as something similar to project91 where it’s shared by a bunch of different drivers. If they were to put a driver in the 41, give Todd Gilliland a chance. He deserves a shot in some good equipment.
Don't be so anticipated on Preece's future with SHR, let's not forget Suarez only lasted 1 season in the 41. Tony must've been kicking himself narrating his last years' win 😂
When the RCR rumors first popped up I was a little shocked to say the least, as a KB fan I was certain he was going to be in the 41 after Joe Gibbs let him go, however I'm glad Kyle's in the 8 car. RCR seems to be a great fit for him.
Should be noted Ford forced them to pass on Larson due to the "circumstances" that year. This is why he didn't have Chevy personal services when he came back with Hendrick.
Harvick is retiring this year sadly I wish he could’ve won another title in 2020 winning 9 races and can’t make the championship 4 is crazy but at least he has one🤷♀️ and he’s a first ballot hall of famer
I think Herbst will take over the 4 car next year. Listening to Harvick talk about him on the broadcast makes me think that he could be a cup driver next year. He’s developed a lot since his 1st year at SHR and has been the most consistent driver in the xfinity series. While he doesn’t have a win I think he’s matured a lot and could be ready come next season
Glad they've fallen off along with Gibbs after how much they hurt the product and the racing years back
I was a fan of shr since 2009 it hurts to see them struggle
Tony shld sell his charter to @DaleJr #DaleYeah & Haas can keep racing in #NASCAR 🤘🏼🏁
To me it seem like a lack of leadership due to Tony Stewart changed focus to his racing serie, and joined NHRA. So all they need is a strong leader with a 100% commitment , which they do not have anymore. As of today they could probably just shut down in 2024, and save their fans from further embarresment. It probably is easier to sell SHR than find someone to turn the downward spiral.
I agree. They aren't concentrated on NASCAR. They should sell their charters. I know Dale Jr. is looking to get in the sport.
This may be controversial but I think they need to downsize after Harvick retires. Get a good payout from that charter and focus their resources on the remaining 3 teams. They may have to sign Riley Herbst for his funding once Smithfield's and Aric Almirola leave. If that funding isn't enough they may even have to become a 2 car organization and drop the 10 car. If Busch beer leaves I can't see them becoming elite again without downsizing.
I agree, a 4 car team is a big commitment.
Downsizing could very well make them better.
Ford will not allow it - they paid to be 4 cars.
@@FMecha That's the first time I'm hearing that. Do you have proof of this?
As a SHR fan I’m just flattered cause they all stopped winning for some reason
Corey lajoie should get the #4 ride next year
What about their F1 expansion team? Do you think they are more focused on that now??
Here is the deal for me. If SHR don’t get it together soon after my favorite driver leaves at the end of this season. I’ll change my allegiance to another team. RCR. Tony likes NHRA. That’s fine. It will be interesting to see who Kevin supports in his retirement. Where ever Kevin and his kids go I go. Thx just my thoughts.
I think Harvick will restart his Xfinity program again and go from there. He said he quit that because it was tough for him to do be a driver in cup and an owner is Xfinity.
It's simple: the drivers in the lineup outside of Harvick aren't talented drivers. I feel like they really screwed up not signing Kyle Larson
You gotta wonder if maybe they go to a 3 car team and try to consolidate everything to three better teams than 4 mid teams
One thing to note though, we were talking the same thing about Hendrick after their slumps thanks to to their lineup of new guys.
And now look at them.
Almirola has always just burnt gas
Tony put his money elsewhere, clearly. He said last year he was more into other types of racing didn't he?
The company was designed and built to design and build race winning race cars. The spec car has them scratching their heads.
I think that shr is just in the same place as hensrick was a couple years ago young drivers and a driver who obviously isn't as good as he used to be
Give briscoe and preece cust and Herbst a few years in cup and we'll probably see them back towards the top
Also Nikita mazepin and Mick shumacher spending alot of haas money and Tony Stewart clearly starting to take a back seat role in the ownership since he started being focused on srx and his funny car team
This is an accurate fact based, we'll researched & articulate production worthy of being deemed a Spoerts Introspective Documentary, as well as a great fact reference to refer to if anyone is doing a story on SHR. If they had an Emmy or Espy Award for internet-based productions (as opposed to theater or television based), this would be a likely nominee in several categories. The SHR Ownership Agreement is fundamentally flawed & almost inevitably deemed to fail, but an interesting escape clause for both Stewart & Haas. Recently, I recall an announcement that the Stewart side of Stewart-Haas was welcoming a new man to head up that side of the organization. Two entire but separate management teams in one organization can only cause undue & excessive costs, personality friction & factions within the company, where each employee position's counterpart within the same organization are not always in the know of what the other side is doing, like hiring and firing drivers, even when that driver is the son of the President of the team
The system screwed Carl Edwards out of his championship that he “tied” with Smoke and Roush took a steep decline afterwards. The system screwed Happy out of his second championship and Stewart Haas may never recover. It’s hard when you give everything to lose because of a gimmick.
It’s screwed him out of 4 championships. He would be a 4 time champion under a fair and true Winston cup format
Speaking of Clint bowyer, you need to do a bad seasons: Clint Bowyer 2016 video on that one. It was the season when h Scott Motorsports bought out his number 15 team from Michael Waltrip Racing
Considering that Clint managed to equal the top ten total that all their other drivers in the previous three seasons combined had, I wouldn't call it all that bad. 27th with a team that was 30th, 29th and 30th in the previous seasons and with a teammate back in 36th is about as good as you can hope for.
it's driver related. They used to have smoke, Kurt, and Kevin. Now they only have Kevin without any other elite drivers. If SHR was a Chevy team, Kyle Larson would probably be a SHR driver
stewart-haas should drop to a 2 car team with the 14 and the 4 being the 2 best teams rn
I hope the rebound soon
Tony went Drag Racing… 🤷♂️
They need to somehow buy out Erik Jones contract from Legacy motor club. I don’t think Jones would leave. But that’s really the only driver I think is capable of making that team better, as of drivers that are still young.
I was there with Newman won the brickyard, that was a pretty exciting race at the end. Honestly at this point if I was a NASCAR driver with Front Row Motorsports looks about as appealing as half the Stewart Haas cars do right now . There is something really wrong there that Harvick is the only competitive car. Letting Kurt Busch go was not a good move. I think whoever takes the 4 should be a veteran driver, because they don’t have an elite level veteran presence. I think Aric Almirola is a good driver but he it’s not even close to being elite and he will eventually retire in the next year or two.
I think its a case of Gene Haas having teams in both NASCAR and F1 under his ownership and it seems like he needs to pick one series or the other
I enjoy Motorsports in general but with that said I’m more of an NHRA drag racing fan then a NASCAR fan but I enjoy NASCAR on occasion. I truly believe as a NHRA fan Tony Stewart today enjoys NHRA significantly more then NASCAR and it’s proven since he’s pretty much at every NHRA race and with him competing and as a team owner. I know he love circle track ultimately more then drag racing but I believe he’s fed up with NASCAR management and Ford telling him he can’t sign Kyle Larson. I believe Tony Stewart is all in on the NHRA, SRX series, and Eldora. I do enjoy the NASCAR 03 music in the background.
You forgot to mention at the 2022, that Cole Custer had not finish a single top 10 in every race, landing him back in the Xfinity.
They should’ve kept Newman with Stewart and harvick
For me it’s about the driver instead of the team I cheer for. Once Harvick’s done I don’t care about SHR. They made too many driver changes and brought in 2 unproven drivers at once. I can’t imagine who will replace Kevin. Herbst not that great in Xfinity.
The engines.
Lies
I'm surprised they never tried poaching Truex or Hamlin over the years. Always thought Tony would.