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  • Опубликовано: 22 авг 2019
  • Have you are wondered what to do with all of that beautiful heirloom field corn you grew? In this video I show you how to take it from the kernel, all the way to tortillas, with wood ash nixtamalization. This is some OG technique. Like prehistoric. Try this recipe, and you'll redefine what a corn tortilla should taste like.
    My article about this process, and a great tamale recipe can be found here:
    www.radicalgastronomy.com/new...
    Traditionally, this corn is ground with two rocks know as a mano and metate. Like this. (I receive a small commission from these Amazon links):
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    I use a Kitchen Aid mixer like this:
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    And the meat grinder:
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    And here is the tortilla press:
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    Thank you for watching!

Комментарии • 303

  • @tonyescobar4501
    @tonyescobar4501 3 года назад +64

    Add a little fat / lard aka manteca to the masa to get it to ply rather than just water. That’s best for tamale masa. Tortillas can be fried or you could stone bake them. I’m Apache and learned our cousins -the Navajo used stone “ovens” to bake the corn masa.

    • @debtizzano3066
      @debtizzano3066 Год назад +1

      Render pure lard ,not store stuff. ❤

    • @kevinwhite4079
      @kevinwhite4079 Год назад +1

      @@debtizzano3066 Deb is right. Believe it or not, home rendered pork fat is a lot more heart healthy.

  • @81peyote
    @81peyote 3 года назад +9

    As a former chef turned Mississippian archaeologist I gotta say, brother you are tearing it up in this video. Excellent job!

  • @petiesabala1077
    @petiesabala1077 4 года назад +64

    You’re the first when I come across to use the wood ash method thank you for all your hard work

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +3

      Petie Sabala Well thanks! I’m glad to be helpful.

    • @MarioPerez-nz8xf
      @MarioPerez-nz8xf 2 года назад +1

      Hello beautiful I wouldn't put water I would put bacon Grease or traditional lard

    • @alfredfabulous3640
      @alfredfabulous3640 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@MarioPerez-nz8xf results in heart attacks!

  • @savannah5785
    @savannah5785 5 месяцев назад +3

    For anyone interested this ancient way of Nixtamalization is covered in the Blue Zone, great documentary on Netflix of 5 areas in the world where people have lived the longest. Most were plant based. Thank you so much for the tutorial as I’m a visual learner. You are a gem 🤗

  • @dannunyas5642
    @dannunyas5642 2 года назад +10

    I have a couple five gallon buckets of Cherokee gourdseed corn I grew in my garden. Tried this method and it's incredible the change in flavor. Lot of people going to revert to the old ways with food skyrocketing. Love your videos.

  • @memowilliam9889
    @memowilliam9889 4 года назад +21

    Cook the tortilla until almost done then put into a basket with a thick towel.
    This is not just to keep them warm.
    This causes them to steam and finish cooking but giving you a softer texture than if you toasted entirely.

  • @paulmcwhorter
    @paulmcwhorter 2 года назад +20

    Thanks for the video. Growing up, the Mexicans on our ranch would make the hominy outside in large pots over a fire. They would mix equal parts corn, ash and water in a large pot. Like 5 gallons corn, 5 gallons water and 5 gallons ash in a big huge pot, and then cook over a fire all day. Then lots of rinsing. Really was delicious hominy. What are your thoughts of having the corn and ash together like that, all in the same pot?

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  2 года назад +6

      Hey, if it works, it works. I like it.

    • @paulousley6042
      @paulousley6042 2 года назад +4

      Can you dry the corn after Nixtamalization to make flour to store or is this just a process if you want it fresh?

    • @ExtremePrepper
      @ExtremePrepper 2 года назад +5

      @@paulousley6042 Absolutely. If you dry the corn after Nixtamalization, and do a course grind on the dry corn you have 'Grits'. You see 'Grits' sold by Quaker in the grocery store. Those are ground, dried Nixtamalized corn. If you grind the dry Nixtamalized corn finely, you have 'Masa' also sold in the grocery store. Masa is what tortillas, corn chips, and Hot Tamales are made out of. So, you can see the Mexicans really had it figured out. Most mexican dishes are made from Nixtamalized corn.

    • @paulousley6042
      @paulousley6042 2 года назад +2

      @@ExtremePrepper okay cool, been making tortillas for a while wanted to try my hand at growing corn and making my own Masa. Couldn't find an answer on the steps to make the flour after Nixtamalization, if letting the corn dry retained the nutrients from that process

    • @paulmcwhorter
      @paulmcwhorter 2 года назад +7

      @@paulousley6042 Here is the thing. If you are making tortillas, you make them directly from the wet nxtamalized corn. While it is still wet, just smash it up. Add a little salt, flatten it out in a tortilla press and throw it on the griddle. That 100% is the authentic honest to goodness Mexican way of doing it. You can dry it, then grind it fine, and then add the water back, but you are just adding steps. I will guarantee you this . . . it will be the best tortilla you ever had. Funny thing is I live in Africa, and 80% of the diet here is corn, yet they never adopted Nixtamalization. Sad, as it is really needed.

  • @drjwebber619
    @drjwebber619 3 года назад +4

    Now THAT is what I call farm to table. "From scratch" doesn't even begin to describe this. Well done!

  • @estapley2680
    @estapley2680 3 года назад +11

    Wow what a process! I will never take a corn tortilla for granted again :-) nice video thanks!

  • @jc-qw5si
    @jc-qw5si 2 года назад +1

    Finally someone who uses ashes

  • @allenemersonn1227
    @allenemersonn1227 4 года назад +7

    I continue to find it remarkable that people have forgotten that mixing dry wood ash into dried grains and legumes was used for millennia as a method of preservation against insects, molds and fungi. My grandfather spoke of this method being used in his childhood home on the Kansas plains at the beginning of the 20th century. Any kind of pure, light gray ash from wood or corn stalks was used. The ash could easily be washed away into a container when the grain was needed, and re-used in, say, soap making. Some grain, stored in wood ash, became wet at some point and we got nixtamalization.

  • @joecrafted
    @joecrafted 4 года назад +4

    As a former archaeologist, I was aware of the wood ash nixtamalization technique, but most everyone showing this process now uses the slaked lime or cal. I'll have to try this out, as I have plenty of wood ash from our wood stove.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад

      joecrafted Give it a shot, and let me know how it goes. To me, this method yields a tastier result.

    • @morgensellier7816
      @morgensellier7816 3 года назад

      I think the Navajo still use a version of the wood ash: www.npr.org/sections/thesalt/2017/08/21/544191316/to-get-calcium-navajos-burn-juniper-branches-to-eat-the-ash

  • @OvGraphics
    @OvGraphics 2 года назад +1

    RG. You didn't pop up in my feed. I went looking for you. Found you too! Looks to me like your grind was a little coarse. But what do I know? I've never tried ANY of this. Zip. Nada. So I've been doing my earnest SHTF research on this and that with corn products being a priority. I have the pickling lime but then the question..what about when that runs out? Your video is EXACTLY what I was looking for. No nonsense, step by step prehistoric wood ash conversion. I'm as tickled as a speckled pup that I ran across you. And you're a GREAT video shooter too. Wish I was as good. I have or will have access to everything I need by harvest. Got the Indian feed corn seed on the way this early spring. You also cleared up my grits question. You did good for me RG. Took notes all through the presentation. Really appreciated!! Liked and subscribed!
    Norm

  • @RRaucina
    @RRaucina 7 дней назад +1

    Since the Indians did not have copper pots, they were boiling water in tightly woven baskets sealed with pine resin. They would add rocks from the fire covered in ash and also some used limestone rocks, thus inadvertently bringing on the nixtamalization process. Pellagra wasn't a problem for them, but when it went to Europe, people were dying on a corn heavy diet. 1% calcium is enough and easy to use. The wood ashes are fine but be sure no one is burning garbage and plastic in the wood stove.

  • @peterswatton7400
    @peterswatton7400 2 года назад +3

    I've got rainwater, ash from the wood range and corn from the hen feed and even the old family cast iron hand grinder so I'll give it a go here in New Zealand and look for some better corn to plant next season. I enjoyed the video.

  • @kimnenninger7226
    @kimnenninger7226 2 года назад +1

    Great video. I needed to learn how to do this. Thank you for sharing.

  • @melissaallenmainegardener4574
    @melissaallenmainegardener4574 2 года назад +1

    This video is worth millions thank you,

  • @BroadShouldersFarm
    @BroadShouldersFarm 4 года назад +12

    This is fascinating! Thanks for taking the time to record the whole process!

  • @wisconsingoldrush8270
    @wisconsingoldrush8270 3 года назад +2

    I like doing things the old school way out in the woods. This is an awesome thing to know

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад

      Always good to know how to do things if the “store” isn’t an option. Glad you like it!

  • @jttj742
    @jttj742 День назад

    Great video! There’s lots of videos on RUclips that are just matter of fact. But you bring a sort of poetry and intrigue to the topic. Will be checking out your other videos!

  • @sappysamurai5170
    @sappysamurai5170 4 года назад +2

    A most excellent explanation of corn and nixtamalization! Thank you sir! Just subscribed! 👍👍 And the Hopi heirloom corn is beautiful!!!

  • @notmyname3883
    @notmyname3883 2 года назад +2

    "Scott Glenn nixtamalizes corn"
    There, fixed the title for ya !

  • @clambert2020
    @clambert2020 4 года назад

    Great video. Wonderful content. Well presented. I also read the related article from your website. You are a gifted writer who is sharing priceless information. Thank you so much.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад

      clambert2020 wow! Thanks for making my day! I’m planning big things for 2020!

  • @randycantu1
    @randycantu1 4 года назад +3

    Thank you....today I've learned something new. As a Mexican/American, I thought I knew everything about tortillas, but you taught me something fascinating! Thank you again....

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +1

      Randy Cantu Awesome! Let me know how it comes out, if you try it. 😉👍

  • @trevor6485
    @trevor6485 Год назад

    You’ve got a great channel, I wish all the best for you and yours!

  • @xstreemfishing
    @xstreemfishing 5 лет назад +1

    Great video. You have inspired me to try the whole process.

  • @josephbrazelton5879
    @josephbrazelton5879 Год назад +3

    Wonderful video showing the how too as well as some of the experimentation you used. Learning to use wood ash instead of cal was fantastic, keep up the great work!

    • @kevinwhite4079
      @kevinwhite4079 Год назад

      Does it affect the flavor, one way or another? This is amazing indigenous science.

  • @Helpmeimcrazy
    @Helpmeimcrazy 4 года назад

    Very interesting process, thanks for sharing.

  • @thewintergardener
    @thewintergardener 2 года назад

    great video. i'm working with my 7th grade agriculture students to study corn and we're going through this process. thanks!

  • @magnumsalyer
    @magnumsalyer Год назад +1

    I did it with borehole water (well water) and it worked fine. Thanks for the recipe!

  • @dennislock3415
    @dennislock3415 Год назад

    Was just speaking about wanting to learn this this very morning.Appreciate it.

  • @lyyliesther984
    @lyyliesther984 3 месяца назад +1

    Thankyou looks yummy 😋

  • @urbanhomesteadpgh9949
    @urbanhomesteadpgh9949 4 года назад +1

    Very cool video, thanks! We're growing a lot of flint corn this year so we'll have to try the old fashioned method a couple times instead of just using cal.

  • @debtizzano3066
    @debtizzano3066 Год назад

    Thank you this is what I’m talking about. Yes, past heritage ways intrigue me too.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  Год назад

      Right on. This method is so much more flavorful than the cal nixtamal!

  • @jedw9496
    @jedw9496 2 года назад

    Thanks man. This is the second time I am doing it with wood ash. I used hickory, apple and oak to make the ashes. For sure the Hickory makes good Cal.

  • @petiesabala1077
    @petiesabala1077 4 года назад +4

    I have been watching your videos like crazy I myself grow a lot of my own food dehydrate food and it was until last year I grew blue dent corn
    And I have been working on my Chemical process and doing lotta research on dent corn
    But I haven’t tried the wood ash process yet and in your video it explains everything so I thank you for that little bit of knowledge

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +3

      Petie Sabala Awesome. I have great new videos coming soon. Working on a whole hog series from the live animal to everything from bacon to lard and pate.

    • @alfredfabulous3640
      @alfredfabulous3640 10 месяцев назад

      Poor hog. ... :(

  • @tycer7
    @tycer7 3 года назад +2

    We did the side by side comparison with CAL vs Ash Tamales. The ash definitely had a richer flavor. The textures were the same. It was easy enough to do the ash vs the cal. Will definitely keep a jar of ash handy. We used Hickory Cane (not king) corn. Thanks again for the vid.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад

      Great! Yeah, I prefer the flavor of the wood ash process.

  • @CampLJNC
    @CampLJNC 3 года назад

    Wow. So cool. Thanks for sharing!

  • @batwork4031
    @batwork4031 4 года назад +1

    Thank you very much, I have been reluctant to use lime. This is perfect.

  • @algreen266
    @algreen266 2 года назад

    Excellent, first your title speaks for itself, secondly your explanation to step by step is unmatched by any of these idiots on this internet, at least that shows if there is world hunger, you can still preserve a gourmet dish.Thank you

  • @wojomojo
    @wojomojo 2 года назад +6

    The theory I've heard had the Mesoamericans cooking corn in containers carved of limestone, which is local to Southern Mexico and surrounding areas. Over time they realized the benefits of the lime interacting with the corn. Either way, chance probably has a lot to do with it! Glad I found your channel, subscribed.

  • @neosky9
    @neosky9 25 дней назад +2

    Thank you

  • @larryrobertson3310
    @larryrobertson3310 4 года назад +3

    I have 800 pounds of dent corn and had been wondering how to make hominy , good instructions !! will be making grits !! mmmm

  • @DrHenley
    @DrHenley 4 года назад +16

    Thanks for the video. Using wood ash predates agriculture and goes back to hunter gatherers who used wood ash and water to make acorns edible by neutralizing the tannic acid. Recipes using acorns and bear meat were carried over into the agricultural age substituting corn and pork but preparing everything the same way, including soaking in lye. To them it just made the corn more tasty and easier to eat. They of course did not have sweet corn like we do today.

    • @thewintergardener
      @thewintergardener 2 года назад +1

      that is awesome to learn James, thanks for sharing. do you have any resources on that info (like a book or museum?) i'd love to show my students.

    • @vizprave6721
      @vizprave6721 2 года назад +2

      actually nixtamalisation was an Aztec and Mayan procedure which was done in preparing corn to grind into a flour. It came from the Nahuatl word of Nixtamalli which was a compound word of Nextli which meant lime ashes or calcium oxide and tamalli which meant unformed/cooked corn dough. When corn was brought from the New World to the Old World, the process was not used by those who consumed it as they didn't know it and so corn was considered an unhealthy grain associated mostly with the poor and one which caused pellagra. Fun fact, corn was supplied to Ireland during the Irish Potato Famine but it had only worsened the condition due to it not being Nixtamalised.

    • @alfredfabulous3640
      @alfredfabulous3640 10 месяцев назад

      Bear Meat. ......mmmmmhh!

  • @xiraoit9342
    @xiraoit9342 Месяц назад +1

    I do the same thing as you,
    but I use corn for chickens / a special type of corn for flour instead of dent corn/horse tooth corn.
    And when I baked it, it didn't bubble like the tortilla making videos spread on RUclips.

  • @suzz1776
    @suzz1776 3 года назад +3

    just came across ur channel and subbed. it is very interesting and full of information. so thx u for the video. and btw, I never knew there was pink corn. that looks like candy in a jar :)

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад

      Thanks! There are some many wonderful corn varieties. I rotate between three. In addition to this Hopi pink, I grow a Hopi blue, and a Oaxacan green. I grow them in different years to avoid cross pollination and genetic degradation.

  • @jenncrossman7845
    @jenncrossman7845 5 лет назад +4

    I love seeing this process! I first read about it in Little House in the Big Woods. It's interesting, though, to follow the story of the Ingalls family, and see how, in some ways, how they left some of the old processes and value judgements behind as they followed the "progress" of their time. I wonder if that contributed to almost the whole family dying of diabetes-related issues...

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  5 лет назад +2

      Jenn Crossman fascinating. I haven’t read the books. There’s probably a great case study, in there. I have heaps of mustard to thresh, so there will be a “soil up” Dijon video, soon!

  • @PedsNephroUIC
    @PedsNephroUIC Год назад

    thanks! I learned something today! very imformative :)

  • @bricarri
    @bricarri 5 лет назад

    Awesome Bob! Thanks.

  • @tyronlockwood1080
    @tyronlockwood1080 4 года назад +1

    Wow just absolutely great job, you deserve more subscriber...instant like and subscribe.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +1

      tyron lockwood Thanks, friend! I’m still a noob, but growing!

  • @arsenbaic
    @arsenbaic 2 года назад

    Thank You.

  • @blueskye23
    @blueskye23 4 года назад +2

    Thank for the tutorial! If you press the center of the tortilla with a dish cloth or wadded up paper towel when it is almost finished cooking, it will usually puff up. That gets rid of the raw center and gives it a toastier flavor. (be careful: dishcloth + 🔥 could be dangerous)

  • @blackcitroenlove
    @blackcitroenlove 4 года назад +1

    This is how I do it at home :) yum yum

  • @sammichmanjr
    @sammichmanjr 4 года назад

    Wow. Just from ashes and corn. Impressive, sir.
    Also, for what it's worth, if you have a single "tamale" it's called a "tamal" (nix-TAMAL-ization... I leanred something else tonight!) and if you have more than one tamal, they're tamales.
    Keep up the great work! And from what I saw in this video, I'm quite jealous of your kitchen.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +1

      Thank you! I did the kitchen remod in the late fall of '18. Those granite counters came out of a tile job I did. There was a good bit of tile chipping off of a concrete slab, crack repair, and leveling to get a nice floor. It's a joy to work in.

  • @David-kd5mf
    @David-kd5mf 3 года назад

    Great video

  • @chilepeulla
    @chilepeulla 4 года назад +4

    Hey man, this was a very thorough video and I highly appreciate this information. I have this process down with cal but I’d also like to master it with wood ash, more tools under your belt is always a good thing. My only advice here would be for you to get a hand cracked grain mill, a Corona or Victoria one. The thing with leaving your masa too coarse is that your chances of getting the tortillas to puff are highly reduced. When the tortilla puffs it cooks so much better on the inside and the pliability increases dramatically, it seems like a small thing but at least in my opinion that’s what takes a tortilla made from scratch from good to espectacular. With the grain mill I pass the dough twice through it, the first grind not too tight and the second grind very tight, with a little bit of water to help it go through and that gets you a very smooth masa that will have very good chances of puffing. Keep up the good work

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад

      Good tips! Have you ever tried using a kitchen aide grain mill for masa?

    • @chilepeulla
      @chilepeulla 4 года назад

      I didn’t even know it existed! Haha. I looked into it a little bit and some people say it’s only meant for dry grains, so this application might be good for it

    • @thewintergardener
      @thewintergardener 2 года назад

      @Diego Silva i've been using the victoria hand crank grain mill (well, I've been making my 7th graders to the labor) and we let it dry a bit between the 1st and 2nd grind. thanks for sharing your process, I'm going to try a loose first grind then the 2nd grind with more water and a closer plate setting.

    • @chilepeulla
      @chilepeulla 2 года назад +1

      @@thewintergardener after many more attempts all I can say is that you can produce decent tortillas with a hand cranked grain mill, but it’s a little hit and miss. I had the chance to go to Mexico and have a Mexican grandmother show and explain her process to me, she had her masa ground for her in the local mill and there’s just no comparison in the texture that you get, her masa was smooth as silk, that’s a texture I will never be able to produce with the Victoria mill and her tortillas puffed like balloons. I’m really tempted to get a Molinito, look into it, it’s a semi industrial grinder for masa at a somewhat reasonable price

  • @DGTLbeats
    @DGTLbeats 2 года назад +2

    that smell you described about the ash is called petrichor and it is a very pacific northwest smell. this video is amazing thank you for your knowledge

  • @mountaingator001
    @mountaingator001 3 года назад +1

    THANK YOU

  • @crowcrow1032
    @crowcrow1032 4 года назад +1

    Nice one mate ! very informative - any chance of a video on the growing of the heritage corn ?
    I would luv to try to grow here in Australia and also on land I have in Philippines

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +1

      Crow Crow thanks! That video will happen, but not this season, as I’m building a new farm and have no time for field crops. Some basic tips: I plant during the first thunderstorm of the season. Keep it wet until it germinates. Plant it 25 cm apart, so the leaves get plenty of sun. Leave it on the stalk as long as possible, as long as the birds aren’t eating it. Good luck, mate!

  • @arthorim
    @arthorim 4 года назад

    In some parts of Mexico people still use ash for making nixtamal. This masa is use for especial dishes like dirty tamales .it's a very simple recipe corn masa made with ash spread on banana leaves wrap it and cook it as usual it goes very hood with mole or chile colorado pork ribs.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад

      arturin im Super cool.

    • @alfredfabulous3640
      @alfredfabulous3640 10 месяцев назад

      'Dirty -Sanch- ...err, Tamales' , eh?

    • @arthorim
      @arthorim 10 месяцев назад +1

      @@alfredfabulous3640 look at tamales nejos from guerrero. Nejo means dirty

  • @danielwilliams1400
    @danielwilliams1400 3 года назад +1

    I have many pounds of the minerals from wood ash, after percolating rain water through it, filtering and cooking the water off until it's a solid crystalline form. Now I have to figure out how much to add back into water. It is very concentrated, obviously. lol My main reason for doing it initially, was in case I wanted to make soap, and also for bio-diesel production if I could make that work reliably. But now I have grown field corn, and with harvest time approaching fast, I am just now finding out that it's best to process it with lye or lime. lol

    • @danielwilliams1400
      @danielwilliams1400 3 года назад

      I finally realized who you sound like. Peter Weller a.k.a. Robo Cop. ha ha

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад

      Daniel Williams Ha! Robo Cop. What you have made is lye. By dissolving that into water you can process corn. I know that the proper strength for soap will float a fresh egg. Probably half that strength for nixtamal.

  • @mr.kongable
    @mr.kongable 3 года назад

    Awesome video, I just subscribed

  • @CHRISTIANSDAYSHK
    @CHRISTIANSDAYSHK 4 года назад

    Interesting !!!

  • @datbihhneah
    @datbihhneah 3 года назад +1

    My tribe mixes in juniper ash with the blue corn meal 🙂

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад +1

      Nice. I don’t have those ways, but I want to check it out!

    • @rd6203
      @rd6203 Год назад +1

      🖤🤤🖤

  • @tybrady1935
    @tybrady1935 Год назад +1

    I visited Guatemala about thirty five years ago. Every meal had corn tortillas made from fresh corn grown a few hundred feet away. They were so good! The food was sold by natives by the side of the road using wood fires. One woman was always making tortillas using a stone metate and then using their hands to form the tortilla. I wonder if they used lime or if they used wood ash. I hope they used wood ash.

    • @alfredfabulous3640
      @alfredfabulous3640 10 месяцев назад

      Did they wash their hands before begining the processing?

  • @jakehenning9483
    @jakehenning9483 2 года назад +3

    Could you then dehydrate the masa (after nixtamalized) and turn it into cornmeal or flour? Could you jar these in mason jars to store as canned corn? I'm very new to this entire subject! Thanks for the great video!

    • @g-whiz286
      @g-whiz286 9 месяцев назад

      Cornmeal is not nixtamalized.

  • @vegasbattleborn1594
    @vegasbattleborn1594 4 года назад +1

    Finally found a true traditional method of making hominy!
    Enjoyed your interpretation of how this process came about but who would've thought.... I'll take these wood ashes & use it to make this corn better? I'm always amazed at how we as humans came up with these things. Subbed ✌️

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +1

      Thanks, gurl! I love these old, simple technologies. Thanks for the sub.

  • @thegreatnorth9080
    @thegreatnorth9080 4 года назад +1

    Fantastic video, thanks!

  • @matthewhenderson7701
    @matthewhenderson7701 4 года назад

    #SwolCorn kills me! Brilliant.

  • @natemorlock2379
    @natemorlock2379 4 года назад +2

    I loved the video, spectacular content. I am curious, did they have any noticeable ashy taste? Were they just OK? Or were they delicious like they appeared to be?

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +5

      Nate Morlock They are fabulous. They have a deeper, earthier flavor than lime processed corn, but more faintly smoky than ashy. To me, this method is superior in every way but convenience (and convenience is never my standard ;).

  • @gottmituns1938
    @gottmituns1938 3 года назад +1

    Very cool! I always wondered how to do this with wood ash. Thanks to you, now I know.
    Have you run across a recipe for making hominy with lye? I have sodium hydroxide from making soap. Not sure if it is food grade, but I'll find out before using it.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад +2

      The water produced by boiling the ashes is lye water, so it will totally work. You just need to get the portions correct. I am not aware of specific measurements for sodium hydroxide, but calcium hydroxide is two tablespoons to a gallon of water. I’d start there. If the corn dissolves, too strong. If the kernel skins don’t slip, too weak (you’ll know right away, if it’s too weak, as the corn won’t change color in the first minute. I imagine your soap making lye is fairly pure, and I doubt you’ll find it sold as “food safe” though I could be wrong.

  • @CROSpunkie
    @CROSpunkie 4 года назад +1

    Here in GT I'm always seen them drip water directly into the mill feed with the kernels. I wonder if you could do the same with your setup and skip the need for further blending in the food processor?

  • @arielvicencio7984
    @arielvicencio7984 4 года назад

    Awesome, thank you for the wonderful video! I have a question, would I by any chance use fresh corn to do this process or should I stick to dried corn? Thanks in advance!

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +1

      ariel vicencio You need dry corn, for this. Thanks and good luck!

  • @andybaxley5797
    @andybaxley5797 5 лет назад

    Yeah Bob!!!

  • @bonsummers2657
    @bonsummers2657 3 года назад +1

    What's the purpose of getting the skins to separate? Do you keep the skins. I'd like to keep the corn whole, and not eliminate the skins.

  • @paulousley6042
    @paulousley6042 2 года назад +1

    Can you dry after Nixtamalization and store the flour or would just use this process for fresh dough?

  • @dinahscarlett307
    @dinahscarlett307 2 года назад +1

    In the video you mention using hardwood wood ash from deciduous trees, can one use wood ash from non-deciduous trees such as eucalyptus? We use pine as kindling and the logs are all Eucalyptus.
    Thanks from 'down under' for a very interesting video.

    • @richardjacques1731
      @richardjacques1731 Год назад

      He did specify hard wood, I think any oily wood would leave a pitchy taste. I was wondering if fruit wood like peach or apple tree would would work. Easy enough to get prunings or firewood when orchards upgrade their trees.

    • @rd6203
      @rd6203 Год назад

      Isn't eucalyptus toxic to burn?

  • @guerillagrace
    @guerillagrace 4 года назад

    Wow 🤩🧠💪Well done 🎸🎙⭐

  • @bonsummers2657
    @bonsummers2657 3 года назад

    How about cooking it with keeping the slimy quality?

  • @officialLWH
    @officialLWH Год назад

    Can you use olive wood for this? I am from the Mediterranean.

  • @o5245607
    @o5245607 4 года назад +1

    Brillant, something I have been thinking about for quite some time thanks. Have you checked the PH of the water when finished simmering and cooling down or what the % of alkalinity is with the amount of wood ash you are using in your recipe?

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад

      jager meister I don’t use litmus strips to check it, but that would be interesting. I just rely on how the corn reacts. If there is a quick color change, I know it’s strong enough. There is an egg test used by soap makers, also, but if a fresh egg floats in it, it’s too strong for this, and the corn would just disintegrate.

    • @o5245607
      @o5245607 4 года назад

      @@radicalgastronomy Thank you appreciate your help.

  • @tycer7
    @tycer7 3 года назад

    Howdy. Great video!
    How many cups of finished product do you think you end up with?

  • @ssc_1
    @ssc_1 2 года назад

    Can we use ash from the oven

  • @hellogreen7074
    @hellogreen7074 3 года назад

    How do you figure out how much ash to corn ratio. Also water? What happens if too much ash is used/ too little?

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад

      Some trial and error got me to the ratios shown here. Too much ash, and the corn dissolves. Not enough, and the corn won’t swell and soften properly.

  • @Rose-kh1qh
    @Rose-kh1qh 4 года назад +2

    Interesting tail you tell. I like the story that we learned from the Indians that seems more realistic.

  • @hawkowleditorial5551
    @hawkowleditorial5551 2 года назад +1

    Thank you for posting this. I have been looking for guidance on how to perform this process because I've been growing Hopi blue corn for years and relatively recently realized we should have been doing this. We have just been grinding the dry corn in a hand crank grain mill (hard work) and making delicious cornbread. I still have so many questions, such as is it necessary to bleach the color out (which seems to happen when boiling for an hour, but not when boiling only 10 minutes)? And are blue corn tortilla chips not good for us then, because they must not have been nixtamalized to this extent? I have seen others say to process the corn in the lye solution for shorter periods and that it brings out the color. But if the color ends up going away, what's the point of the colored corns?
    Thanks also to Paul McWhorter for sharing his observations of native peoples' techniques.

    • @Aspen7780
      @Aspen7780 5 месяцев назад +1

      You should use juniper ashes from the green twig parts of the trees. Put a little of the sifted ash powder in the water you use cooking the blue corn meal. It makes it more nutritious and returns the original color so that it’s more blue again.
      Oh and you should be first toasting your cornmeal so that it’s more grayish than purple before doing the boiling in ash water. If you toast it till it’s beige you’ve gone too far.

    • @julieh6396
      @julieh6396 5 месяцев назад

      @@Aspen7780 thank you for your reply. I’ve not heard of the toasting step before. What is your source for this wisdom? And you are saying to burn green, wet wood and leaves and use a “little” (how much?) of the sifted ash from this? We had a bunch of cedar/juniper that we had to cut back and it dried in our driveway. I wanted to burn it to collect the ash, but we don’t have a copper pit and I was concerned about mixing the ash with other ash… I’ve been using pickling lime since I first posted here.

    • @Aspen7780
      @Aspen7780 5 месяцев назад

      @@julieh6396 hi there. I’m Tewa from one of the pueblos in NM. Once we grind the blue corn down, you can either use it as cornmeal (unroasted) or roast it. I mean toast it. Some people put the cornmeal in a big pan on the stove top. Others put it on a baking sheet in the oven. You just have to keep stirring it to not burn it. When it turn a bluish gray and you can smell it, it’s done. Take it out and keep up with occasionally stirring it cause it will continue cook even removed from the heat. This roasted blue corn meal is atole flour. You can make a drink with it for the morning like coffee or when you are sick. You can make porridge out of it.
      Our people used to use ashes, though not so much now. I have Navajo relatives who still do. The fine shifted ashes turn the gray meal back to a bluish color when cooking.
      The ashes are best made on an outside grill. You need the green twigs of the juniper. That will burn to fine white ash. The woody branch is ok but doesn’t burn as completely to ash as the green and might stay chunky and black. The green juniper twig ash will be nutritious. You don’t need a lot of ash for most applications. A teaspoon or so mixed in the water for most dishes like porridge. Just make sure it’s been sifted to get rid of solid black stuff beforehand. They also used to make cooking ash from corn cobs and saltbrush. Look up some Navajo cooking youtube videos.

  • @jttj742
    @jttj742 День назад

    Could you use ash from burning the corn stalk, husks, cobs?

  • @NayrbRellimer
    @NayrbRellimer 3 года назад +1

    Have you tried making masa flour with washing soda (sodium carbonate)? If you can't find washing soda at the store, you can make it by heating baking soda around 400°F in the oven for a few hours.

  • @loaleen
    @loaleen 3 года назад

    Thanks for this video - I have unlimited access to sweet corn and I'm super excited to try this process! Did you start off by just hanging the corn to dry right after picking, to get the kernels?

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад +4

      I like to let the corn dry on the stalk, for as long as possible, then harvest and shuck. I let it dry another couple weeks before stripping. Good luck!

    • @johne7123
      @johne7123 2 года назад +1

      @@radicalgastronomy thanks 👍

  • @garyplatt-hepworth8792
    @garyplatt-hepworth8792 3 года назад

    I suspect that we use only the light grey coloured wood ash and exclude the black ?

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад

      Yes, I sift it, and use the charcoal in my compost, ash for the corn.

  • @Zane-It
    @Zane-It 2 года назад

    Is hard wood necessary?

  • @presidentoxford
    @presidentoxford Год назад

    This a how to post or a shared experiment ?

  • @BassDroppah
    @BassDroppah 4 года назад +2

    Does making it with ash add any flavor?

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  4 года назад +3

      Bass Droppah it makes it more earthy, and more corny. Not so much smokey.

  • @shomina2982
    @shomina2982 Год назад

    you should use some cloth bag to put ash inside when you cook it

  • @Jonas_Fox
    @Jonas_Fox 3 года назад

    But how did they taste? We need a details video just on comparing taste!

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад +1

      There is really no comparison. Wood ash processing makes corn taste like you always wished it would.

  • @richardarroyo598
    @richardarroyo598 2 года назад

    Why not soak the corn in the full lye solution if it is going to be rinsed anyway? Too concentrated, taste? Great video!!!

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  2 года назад +1

      Thanks! One could do that. This approach is born of the desire to understand the “prehistoric” origin, and to find a way to unlock the beauty of field corn with something that is a surplus, on my farm. It’s handy to know how, particularly in these times of supply chain collapse. I hear Target has been out of stock on canning lids, of all things. If one wanted to simplify the process, you could certainly stock up on calcium hydroxide. The wood ash is always in the hearth, so I like this method for that reason, and that the poetry of the experience, from planting the corn, to making tamales, is precious. I plant when the first thunder shakes the sky, in spring. Smelling the wood ash slaking reminds me of the rain. Thunder, rain, water, fire, corn. Sodium hydroxide does not belong in this poem.
      One could make ash lye water at full concentration, but the corn would dissolve before the reaction reached the core of the kernel. One could, also make full strength lye water for soap making, and dilute for nixtamalization.

  • @Mini333w
    @Mini333w 4 года назад +1

    Pozole is a soup my friend.

  • @Ancientinian
    @Ancientinian 2 года назад +1

    Two questions: How far apart are your different varieties of corn grown as to keep the strains from cross pollinating? Why hard wood ash and not pine?

    • @eyesofthecervino3366
      @eyesofthecervino3366 2 года назад +1

      I've heard that pine ash has too much tar to be useful as lye.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  2 года назад +3

      Corn can be separated either in space, or time. I'd have a minimum 500 feet to assure no cross polination of seed stock, but you can plant them right next to each other as long as they are not flowering at the same time. the pollen window is only about 10 days, in most varieties. if you know days to flower for your varieties, you can stagger your plantings accordingly. Personally, I grow one variety per year, and rotate between three or four types.

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  2 года назад +2

      Pine will work, but you must used more ash, and concentrate the lye water through reduction (boiling it down to increase the strength). I have never done this, so can't offer measurements. Let me know if you give it a shot.

  • @suzz1776
    @suzz1776 3 года назад

    when they say that u have to use hard wood ash for this. what is hard wood. like what types of wood ash can u use and what types r not ok to use. I know poisonous and probably really resinous woods like pine would not b good. but what exactly is hard wood?

    • @radicalgastronomy
      @radicalgastronomy  3 года назад

      Any wood will work, and is safe. “Hard wood” refers simply to wood from leafy trees. In other words, not evergreens like pine. These also work, but make a weaker alkaline solution, thus requiring more ash. I have never used them, for this, so I can’t offer correct ratios.

  • @jaredmurphy3939
    @jaredmurphy3939 Год назад

    Do you have a dedicated stainless steel pot for this, or could you still use it for normal cooking after this process?