The Waste Land Part 2 | T S Eliot - Line by Line Explanation in English

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  • The second section of "The Waste Land," entitled "A Game of Chess," invites interpretation as it unfolds a vibrant and suggestive montage of contemporary existence. It depicts a woman attempting unsuccessfully to communicate with her partner and two ladies gossiping about trivial aspects of their personal lives.
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    Part 2: • The Waste Land Part 2 ...
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Комментарии • 65

  • @K_F_fox
    @K_F_fox 6 месяцев назад +4

    This is the most speculative thought I have on The Wasteland... the term "car" universally means "automobile," but it's actually older, and in at least one English translation of Hymn LXXXIII of the Rig-Veda, "Like a car-driver whipping on his horses, he makes the messengers of rain spring forward. Far off resounds the roaring of the lion, what time Parjanya fills the sky with rain-cloud." I mean, it takes work to say the The Waste Land isn't at least partly inspired by Whitman's "When Lilacs Last in the Dooryard Bloom’d," but my years of obsessing over the poem has led me to a far more India-centric view than at least 99% of the exegetes I've encountered.

  • @K_F_fox
    @K_F_fox 5 месяцев назад +3

    I found the counter-example that proves you're almost certainly right about the person not speaking out loud. From "The Raven" by Edgar Allen Poe:
    "Surely," said I, "surely that is something at my window lattice;
    Let me see, then, what thereat is, and this mystery explore-
    Let my heart be still a moment and this mystery explore;-
    'Tis the wind and nothing more!"
    The narrator of The Raven is speaking aloud, with quotation marks. In The Waste Land, the lines about the wind don't have quotation marks.
    Excellent catch on your part!

  • @maruftuhin8196
    @maruftuhin8196 3 месяца назад +2

    You deserve all the praises, ma'am. So engagingly you've been discussing Eliot! Heartfelt gratitude for you ❤️

  • @sabitasahoo2841
    @sabitasahoo2841 4 часа назад

    Thank u madam,
    Your explanation is very effuent. It reminds me my classroom in those days of 1995....and my professor...❤❤❤❤

  • @K_F_fox
    @K_F_fox 7 месяцев назад +3

    Ah, about "withered stumps of time" ... I'm not sure how many anglophones approach the myth of Philomel via Ovid vs. Shakespeare, but I learned about it from the play Titus Andronicus. In that play, because the sons of Tamora are familiar with the story, after they cut out Lavinia's tounge, they also remove her hands so that she can't weave.
    It should also be noted that Eliot is drawing a deliberate parallel between Philomel/Lavinia and Arachne. As a child, I was only told that Arachne was punished by being turned into a spider because she boasted of her weaving abilities, but she was punished more for what she wove... she wove a tapestry depicting the crimes of the Olympians, especially Zues, against humans.
    Knowing the biography of the poet, I suspect that Betrand Russell may have assaulted Vivienne Eliot. But that's highly speculative. What isn't is that Eliot understood that "no means no" isn't enough, and that anything less than enthusiastic consent is no consent at all. Woven throughout the poem is the reality of what Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome does to people. It's not just "fight or flight," there's also the "freeze" reaction that the typist shows.

  • @djpathak27
    @djpathak27 6 месяцев назад +1

    Even though I myself have benefited from this lecture series for free, I somehow feel this deserves to be behind the paywall. The amount of work (research, structuring, and most importantly the technical finesse such as editing and the overall production) that seems to have gone behind this is simply incredible. Thank you so much for this ma'am. Also, eagerly waiting for the next part haha.

    • @NibblePop
      @NibblePop  6 месяцев назад +9

      Best things of life should be free don't you think? Love, sunshine, a child's smile 😊
      Thank you for your appreciation

  • @sehajpreetkaurlota9807
    @sehajpreetkaurlota9807 Месяц назад +2

    Thank you ma’am for this brilliant explanation.
    I wish to add on my perspective to this. Kindly consider it.
    It might be assumed that as in game of chess, every pawn tries to overpower another one. Similar to that life is a game of chess, both Lil and her friend are pawns of this game. In this, somewhere Lil’s friend is trying to overpower her.
    “HURRY UP ITS THE TIME” may symbolise that its high time to change the manners of this modern world, which has distorted humanity.
    The abrupt ending of both these stories in this part may represent the uncertainty of human life which has no proper ending. Unlike, the conventional stories which had fixed initial point, middle and proper ending. Modern life with wars and bloodshed is uncertain.

  • @K_F_fox
    @K_F_fox 7 месяцев назад +4

    About the Sylvan Scene. I did a side-by-side comparison of two artworks - "The Rape of Philomela by Tereus" by Johann Wilhelm Baur and "Satan as a Serpent, Enters Paradise in search of Eve" by Gustave Doré. Doré's engravings for Paradise Lost that feature Eden show the place in a way that resembles Baur's setting. I can't guarantee that's what Eliot had in mind himself, but if I was creating an illustrated version of the poem, those are the two plates I would use to show what was happening.

    • @NibblePop
      @NibblePop  7 месяцев назад

      I would certainly look that up. Great that you pointed this out

  • @YogitaAhirwar-gb1ib
    @YogitaAhirwar-gb1ib Месяц назад +1

    You h'v been discussing all tha points, u r explanation amaazzzinngg 🎉

  • @arifniazi7158
    @arifniazi7158 7 месяцев назад +2

    Truly love your lectures. Way of teaching. Keep it up. Stay Blessed. ❤

  • @LizaLaha
    @LizaLaha 2 месяца назад

    Thank you

  • @K_F_fox
    @K_F_fox 6 месяцев назад +1

    I've absolutely come around to your idea of the dolphin being an implication and not a statue or painting. When I originally did an ekphrastic walk-through of the poem, I had thought of the myth of Arion. But from a hyperreality standpoint, we have Not-Cleopatra sitting behind a table where not-jewels are glittering, and not-Cupids are looking on the scene (they are Putti, properly, as Cupid is a singular deity and not part of a pair), there are the scents of not-flowers, laquearia is a very archaic term for a ceiling, but fits the hyperreal theme by referring to a fungus that grows on leaves, all in front of this picture that isn't one of the plates from Paradise Lost.
    Dolphins are a little too big for an ecocritical reading of the Waste Land... not that I would ask anyone to ignore the text to force an interpretation. From an ecocritical perspective, all of the non-human animals in the poem are very small, with the possible exception of Man's Best Friend and his digging nails. We have crickets, cicadas, spiders, a handful of birds, very adorable bats, and so many rats. But the rugged Russian bear, The armed rhinoceros, or th’ Hyrcan tiger are all absent, and the Fisher King might have three staves, but cannot trade his entire kingdom for a horse.

  • @RiyaGautam-vk8bd
    @RiyaGautam-vk8bd 7 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you for this wonderful lecture mam🌻

  • @mdjahidulislam3257
    @mdjahidulislam3257 6 месяцев назад +1

    Mam, we badly need the other parts of the poem. Please make videos on the rest parts! Eagerly waiting for your videos from Bangladesh! Very helpful and informative for us. Best wishes for you from the core of my heart!

  • @K_F_fox
    @K_F_fox 6 месяцев назад +1

    I always imagine Lil as "Migrant Mother," a famous photograph by Dorothea Lange. The subject of the photograph is a 32 year old woman, Florence Owens Thompson (and three of her children) and she looks "so antique" for someone that young.
    Lots of people miss the Fisher King symbolism in the "Lil" section. Albert comes from Germanic "adal" meaning "noble" and beraht meaning "bright," and is the Divine Sun, returning after the time of Darkness. "George" means "farmer" but the Greek roots for the term "georgos" contain the obvious "geo" and "urgos," literally meaning "earth worker." Think of Adam or other similar mythological figure created by the Gods to bring forth sustenance from the earth. With Eliot's love of subversion, I wouldn't be too surprised to learn that Lil was Lilith, a sort of anti-mother believed in antiquity to be the cause of crib-death, but in more modern times a symbol of an anti-Wife, an independent woman who refuses to be a submissive Eve but instead insists on equality and independence, but that's a bit more speculative than I'm comforting asserting as fact.

  • @K_F_fox
    @K_F_fox 6 месяцев назад +1

    I recently learned that I may have been mistaken about the "willingness" to display a scene of horrific violence and violation. I stumbled across a painting, "A Passing Cloud" by Arthur Hughes. The scene is a woman resting her head on the mantle of a fireplace while her dog tries to figure out what's wrong with her. The fireplace has a bas relief of Diana disarming Cupid. It may be that generations ago, the original owner of the house decided they wanted the change of Philomel as a detail, and now the couple is just used to it, much like all of the literary references in the Waste Land are part of Anglophone culture that we really don't have a choice about existing next to... they're just a heap of broken images that we can't burry.

  • @monalishagoswami5788
    @monalishagoswami5788 6 месяцев назад +1

    Mam please provide lectures on "Advice to women" and "Bequest" by Eunice De Souza

  • @Soft_rebell
    @Soft_rebell 7 месяцев назад +1

    Please bring out the other parts of this poem soon…it’s in our semester

  • @poulamisaha5605
    @poulamisaha5605 7 месяцев назад +2

    Hello!
    My sweet angel of literature. More power to you....❤

  • @LitLifeChronicles
    @LitLifeChronicles 7 месяцев назад +2

    Thank you ma'am for your efforts. Have been following you since 2021 and you have made English Literature seem less complicated thereafter . Ma'am I have a request for you ; It would be of great help if you could upload a video analyzing the poem 'The Second Coming' by W.B. Yeats. Your insights would be of immense help in understanding the nuances of this complex piece of literature. Thank you! ❤

  • @asifparvez3297
    @asifparvez3297 7 месяцев назад +2

    Great work mam...i am from Kolkata, i have seen ur videos on Paradise Lost and The Rape Of The Lock, they were wonderful. I request you to please upload a dedicated playlist for the topics given in UPSC ENGLISH LITERATURE OPTIONAL paper. It will be very helpful...the way you teach is fantastic and it will be very easy to prepare for UPSC optional.

  • @user-nd5kq7xm8b
    @user-nd5kq7xm8b 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ma'am just loving your lectures. U're such a blessing for us. Kindly upload other parts of this poem too ❤❤

    • @NibblePop
      @NibblePop  6 месяцев назад +1

      Will upload soon

  • @vivektiwari7927
    @vivektiwari7927 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ma'am please bring the third lecture of this series as early as possible

  • @QaziMUbaid-od3qj
    @QaziMUbaid-od3qj 7 месяцев назад +1

    Ma'am Please also make a video on "The Bishop orders his Tomb at St. Praxed Church" by Browning.

  • @bharatmehta6557
    @bharatmehta6557 6 месяцев назад +1

    Third part
    Waiting

  • @sunandaghosh5558
    @sunandaghosh5558 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ma'am please make a video on The Colour Purple

  • @shamsnoorain1252
    @shamsnoorain1252 7 месяцев назад +2

    Mam, please discuss a poem "I say on to waris Shah buy Amrita Pritam. Please if possible mam?.

  • @satishsaxena5246
    @satishsaxena5246 7 месяцев назад +1

    Mam can you please do a series of Paradise Lost Book 2 Just like you did Book 1 . It was really helpful for all of us🧡 Please mam😊

  • @K_F_fox
    @K_F_fox 6 месяцев назад +1

    It's very easy to miss that all three vignettes feature chess in some way.
    "Drying combinations...." While these are now vintage undergarments, another definition of combination is a series of chess moves. Per Wikipedia, "In chess, a combination is a sequence of moves, often initiated by a sacrifice, which leaves the opponent few options and results in tangible gain. At most points in a chess game, each player has several reasonable options from which to choose, which makes it difficult to plan ahead except in strategic terms. Combinations, in contrast to the norm, are sufficiently forcing that one can calculate exactly how advantage will be achieved against any defense. Indeed, it is usually necessary to see several moves ahead in exact detail before launching a combination, or else the initial sacrifice should not be undertaken." The key phrase here is "often initiated by a sacrifice," and that ties it back into the themes of dying-and-rising gods featured in The Golden Bough. ("Stays" are a little ambiguous. As a term for an individual bone of a corset, it would be contemporary, but as an undergarment in and of itself, this is the sort of thing you'd see in a Jane Auston period movie, the sort of thing that was at least 50 years obsolete by the publishing of the Waste Land).
    "A hot gammon." While the obvious and accepted meaning is cured pork... same etymology as "ham" ... there is also the use of the term to mean "game," as in backgammon.

  • @user-mj9io6rt1v
    @user-mj9io6rt1v 6 месяцев назад +1

    Mam can You please provide lectures on " Church going" by Phillip Larkin ...

  • @asifparvez3297
    @asifparvez3297 7 месяцев назад +1

    Mam please do some videos on King Lear and The Tempest

  • @monalisamondal6850
    @monalisamondal6850 6 месяцев назад +1

    Thanks

    • @NibblePop
      @NibblePop  6 месяцев назад +1

      ❤️❤️❤️ Heartfelt thanks for your generous gift of love.

  • @Tinyvlogs0507
    @Tinyvlogs0507 7 месяцев назад +1

    Please make some videos on literary theory ma'am 😥

  • @tabassum_modi
    @tabassum_modi 6 месяцев назад +1

    Plzz upload next video mam..

  • @KiramatKhan-km5eu
    @KiramatKhan-km5eu 7 месяцев назад +1

    Mam you are at second number in my list of favorite Literary Intellectual after Bhim Singh Dahiya...

    • @NibblePop
      @NibblePop  7 месяцев назад

      I loved Dahiya as a student too.

  • @SaazdaMeeni
    @SaazdaMeeni 7 месяцев назад +1

    ❤❤❤

  • @aditirana._
    @aditirana._ 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ma'am, It would be an immense help to me and other students likewise if you kindly make an explanatory video on 'Burnt Norton' by T.S.Eliot . It's a humble request.

  • @chandrimamondal5885
    @chandrimamondal5885 6 месяцев назад +2

    Mam can you plz make a playlist on literary theory?... Actually there are so many videos on it but the way you discuss we need not to read anything after carefully watching your videos... If possible plz start posting videos on literary theories

    • @NibblePop
      @NibblePop  6 месяцев назад

      Done two on structuralism and feminism. Will do more.

    • @chandrimamondal5885
      @chandrimamondal5885 6 месяцев назад

      @@NibblePop yes mam, i have watched it....Thank you for replying

  • @bangtanworld7858
    @bangtanworld7858 7 месяцев назад

    Mam can you please say few imp question from a vindication of the right of women

  • @manjimaguhamajumdar1788
    @manjimaguhamajumdar1788 6 месяцев назад +1

    Mam plz make a video on Sylvia Plath's Lady Lazarus... It is a complicated poem... Plz help me out🙏🙂

  • @monalishagoswami5788
    @monalishagoswami5788 6 месяцев назад +1

    Mam please help us with your lectures on W. B. Yeats' poems "The Leda and the Swam" and "The Second Coming" please mam

  • @unfolding-Paths_
    @unfolding-Paths_ 6 месяцев назад +1

    Ma’am it’s a request to make videos on 6th sem novels covering modern European drama and post-colonial literature

    • @NibblePop
      @NibblePop  6 месяцев назад

      Check out our series on Waiting for Godot. More coming up soon I hope

  • @ui1242
    @ui1242 7 месяцев назад

    Ma'am I'm a wbsu student. Tragedy and Novel in 'Literary types and terms ' paper is bothering me. Since it's one of the rare instances where it's hard to find any suggestive or repetitive questions. So please tell me how to go about this paper, perhaps any study material you may want to recommend

  • @San_478
    @San_478 6 месяцев назад

    Mam I have a request
    Can u pls explain the Play
    " Oedipus the king " By Sophocles
    It became a habit of mine understanding things from RUclips
    I searched up For a proper explanation vid in YT. But they were all just summary and you know just going through the summary won't help me in understanding the whole play..
    So if you make a video explaining the play It would help me a lot

  • @akankshakesharwani6591
    @akankshakesharwani6591 6 месяцев назад

    Part3??

  • @K_F_fox
    @K_F_fox 7 месяцев назад +2

    Here’s the smell of the blood still. All
    the perfumes of Arabia will not sweeten this little
    hand. O, O, O!
    Macbeth, Act 5, scene 1

  • @aanyakumari3692
    @aanyakumari3692 6 месяцев назад

    Maam Mahabharat ka line by line summary kara dijiye na

  • @deevena824
    @deevena824 6 месяцев назад +1

    Can u plz continue macbeth..a humble request

    • @NibblePop
      @NibblePop  6 месяцев назад

      I have already covered the whole text.

    • @deevena824
      @deevena824 6 месяцев назад

      @@NibblePop yeah mam..thank you so much..am an isc student and its very helpful

  • @bharatvakyam
    @bharatvakyam 6 месяцев назад +1

    Part 3?

  • @subirbiswas3613
    @subirbiswas3613 6 месяцев назад

    Mam WBSU University r 5th sem External kobe theke hote pare?

    • @NibblePop
      @NibblePop  6 месяцев назад

      15th Jan I think

    • @subirbiswas3613
      @subirbiswas3613 6 месяцев назад

      ​@@NibblePop But mam routine to dei nii....