Top 10 Most Unforgivable Moments in Broadway Musicals
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- Опубликовано: 5 окт 2024
- We'd give these Broadway moments the vaudeville hook. Welcome to MsMojo, and today we’re counting down our picks for most inexcusable events that have ever befallen the musical stage. Our countdown includes "Dear Evan Hansen," "Rent," "Love Never Dies," and more! Did we miss any of YOUR least favorite events in your favorite musicals? Let us know in the comments below.
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I hated that they cut out "Good for You" from the Evan Hansen movie, since it called Evan out for his horrendous actions, and was more self aware.
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This is my opinion, though everyone in that song is a hypocrite his mother was not attentive at all even though she claims she was Alana is a try hard who tried to make a death about her and Jaired was a total dick and all of a sudden wants to be friends with Evan now that he’s popular
@@ianhimmelstein5915 I can forgive the mother. She was single-handedly supporting them off of an assistant nurse’s salary while studying to become a registered nurse. Whatever time she had was being spent supporting them instead of getting to spend time with her son. She is as attentive as she can be. But her lack of attention is supposed to contrast Cynthia’s because her love is given freely despite in a way that he doesn’t find satisfying while Cynthia’s love of him is based on what he provides her in regards to her dead son.
My Fair Lady was adapted from Pygmalion by George Bernard Shaw. He never intended it to be a romance at all. It was about a woman trying to find herself. But whenever it was performed or adapted, it was always depicted as a romance and Shaw hated it.
Agreed. Higgins specifically states "I'm a confirmed old bachelor, and likely to remain so." "Confirmed old bachelor" was Victorian speak for gay.
Angel's death in Rent is horrible, yes. But it was necessary. In 1995-1996 when Jonathan Larsen wrote Rent, AZT medicine was just coming. It was kind of the watershed between aids being a death sentence and an illness you could live a full life with. Because of that, it wouldn't have been realistic without someone dying. Also, Angel is kind of the glue of the gang, when she dies everything falls apart, but her soul/ghost get them together again
not to mention that Larson had a friend who died from aids and was paying tribute in a way
The absolute MOST(!!!) unforgivable moment is when Julie, a victim of physical abuse by Billy, explains to their daughter, that a slap from him felt like a kiss.
Yep! Carousel is unforgivable.
She doesn't say that. Louise says the hit she felt like "he kissed her hand." This is in the original play, as well. It's not because Billy loves her. It's because he's a ghost. He literally couldn't touch her.
When everyone turned on Effie in Dreamgirls. It make my blood BOIL when everyone, including her *own* brother, turned on her.
Also, Roxie pretty much playing Amos for a fool during the entirety of Chicago, and cheating on him in the beginning.
I wouldn't say that anyone was "quick" to forgive Evan. In the musical, his lie is never made public, that's something that they changed for the movie, so most of his classmates never knew. The Murphys were furious with him. Zoe does agree to meet with him after some time has past, but they're not exactly besties. It is odd that she says that his lie saved her parents, but she doesn't actually say, "I forgive you." I'm pretty sure that after she leaves the orchard, they never see each other again. The general consensus between both of them was basically, "I wish this had never happened." They don't live happily ever after.
Personally? I was never too hung up on the lie because I was just happy to see a show that talked so openly about mental illness, particularly in teenagers. If DEH had existed when I was a teen, maybe I wouldn't have tried to "jump from a tree" when I was 16.
I would say another one would be in Wicked when The Wizard, who turns out to be someone important to Elphaba, sets her up as the enemy of OZ just because she discovers what they are really trying to do and goes against them. When you find out who he is to Elphaba, it makes it twice as bad.
Her father
Not surprised MsMojo doesn't understand nuance... First off, there is a time skip of a full year at the end of DEH. A year is a long time to reflect on everything that's happened, both for Evan and Zoe. And she finds it in herself to forgive him because how it brought her family together. They aren't besties by any means. But she still cares about him enough to invite him to the orchard.
Hadestown is the Orpheus and Eurydice tragedy. He is always going to turn around. "But to know how it ends and still begin to sing it again? As if it might turn out this time..." Maybe THIS time they get a little closer before he turns, maybe THIS time is the one where they both make it....
The fact that Hamilton’s infidelity & Judas’ betrayal actually happened makes them all the more unforgivable
I found out there are some historians who question whether Hamilton's infidelity actually happened.....some think Eliza actually wrote the letters that were supposedly from Maria Reynolds and that that's why she burned her own letters (so no one could compare the handwriting)
Idk if I believe that, though
@@HikazePrincessiirc i read somewhere that it was a thing back in the day that the widow(er) burns the letters written to and/or by them with their late spouses some time after their deaths... cause i think martha washington also burned her letters she had with george when he died.
ETA: Also, isn't the Reynolds Pamphlet a real thing? if it is then why would historians question whether or not Hamilton's infidelity actually happened? granted, i haven't read the real thing and just knew the whole thing from the musical (which i know is not 100% historically accurate)
I think this technically counts since it is a Broadway musical based on a movie: Scar killing Mufasa. Mufasa showed unconditional love for Scar despite the latter's animosity towards him, and Scar murders him in cold blood.
I have long held that the events of "Love Never Dies" are all a fever dream of the Phantom -- he knew he would never be able to have Christine, and in his delirium he dreamed her death. I believe this because of the end of the book "Three weeks later, the Epoque published this advertisement: "Erik is Dead"."
If you think "Love Never Dies" is bad, don't read the book it's loosely based on: "The Phantom of Manhattan." Apparently its author, Frederick Forsyth, and Webber were working on things together but the author had different ideas and Webber had other things going on so Forsyth finished his book himself. It's a very short book and I had a hard time finishing it, it's just so ridiculous. Though to be fair it made me laugh for 5 minutes when it retroactively made Raoul sterile and he knows from moment one the kid isn't his (the son has a different name in the book).
Judas and Hamilton were real life people so I find it kinda funny that they’re betrayed are listed because of musicals 😂
Jekyll and Hyde. The death of Lucy Harris.
Timestampsssss
0:00 intro
0:28 Por Jud is Daid- “Oklahoma”
1:46 Christines death- Love Never Dies
2:56 Evan’s Life- Dear Evan Hansen
3:59 The Dogfight- Dogfight
5:08 Angles death- Rent
6:18 Higgins and Eliza- My fair lady
7:36 Jonathan Pryces Casting- Miss Saigon
8:48 Hamiltons Infidelity- Hamilton
9:59 Judas’ Betral- Godspell
11:16 I’ll also do the honorable mentions because why not
11:19 Orpheus Turns- Hadestown
11:36 A little fall of rain Les Misérables
11:57 Here for you- 9 to 5: The musical
12:14 Radames and Aida’s fate- Aida
12:33 Subscribe for more quality Top Tens
12:48 Number one: Anita’s assault- West side story
Marvin hitting trina in falsettos 👀
What about Effie's mistreatment in Showgirls
Um... Dreamgirls. 😉
@@LaLayla99 Correct
Unfair! In a world where Alexander Hamilton can be played by a non-white actor, why can't the Engineer, who's half white, be played by a non-asain man? Shouldn't the actor's ability count for something?
Lol, really unfair. Hollywood spent decades putting white characters in place of EVERY race and used black face for darker people. John Wayne played Genghis Khan, he even played a Native American in a movie and he was as racist as they come.
Today if you change a fictional charter to a POC the outrage is insane. Wasn't "The Force Awakened" harassed and attacked online for having one, I mean one black man make it to the future, not a black woman in sight? I guess somehow, they were supposed to be eradicated by then. I guess Lando was supposed to live and die as the only black man in the future. Wow, what a burden.
Little Mermaid anyone? Sooooo unfair, let me give you a tissue.
Spring Awakening 😢 both for Moritz & Wendla’s death and then Melchior finds out. I lost it when I watched Jonathon Groff held both their hands and they were all repeating “Not Gone…never let them go…not gone…” 😭
Judas betrayed Jesus-it’s accurate. Why the outrage for the portrayal?
Just because it’s accurate doesn’t make it any less innexcusible
@@MrGleeiscool I don’t understand your thinking
@@johntakvam this isn't a list of things that were put in a show that shouldn't have been (besides Johnathan price) but about actions characters in the show did that made the audience angry sad etc. sooooo the action of Judas betraying Jesus was an inexcusable action by the character.
@@fancyteachermichelle now I understand! Thanks for making it clear
Nancy in Oliver?!!!
The most unforgivable thing in DEH is casting Ben Platt in the movie
What about Elphaba's mistreatment in Wicked? I call that unforgivable.
What about when:
.Gaston stabbed the Beast- Beauty and the Beast
.The transphobic moments in Kinky Boots
.SpongeBob and Patrick ending their friendship- SpongeBob the Musical
Ohhh or when Jamie cheats on Kathy in the last five years, every time I hear nobody needs to know it’s like a punch in the gut
The number 1 pick in the updated version of West Side Story is just made all the more heartbreaking when you see the girlfriends begging the gang not to do it and trying to get Anita away from them, I swear I stopped breathing for a second when I saw that for the first time…
Apparently Rita Moreno really struggled with filming that scene in the original, and I hope putting a stop to it in the remake was some sort of catharsis.
Rita Moreno’s retort 👏💐
I would say the most unforgivable thing in recent musical history, is Diana the musical! The entire musical as a whole, and the fact that it exists. By far the worst musical I've ever seen! Princess Diana desered better.
How about Mabel's ending in 'Mack & Mabel'?
Frankly, I think you'd be hard pressed to find a musical or play without a single unforgivable moment, at least as far as plot points go......villains practically need to have such moments, and no hero is perfect
I found "Hamilton" so hard to follow that I didn't realize this scene was about infidelity.
I would like to see a new version of DEAR EVAN HANSEN without Evan’s lie.
I think the most unforgivable moment is when Audrey and Seymour die in Little Shop of Horrors.
Happy monday afternoon, Emily. Take care and God bless you. Greetings from Colombia to you as well
Jeez, no one has been better than Shuler Hensley as Jud.
Aida and Radames had to die, because they also died in the opera - duuuh 😅
Honourable mention: Anatoly abandoning Svetlana, for Florence, in Chess 🎶
Some more honorable mentions: Gaston stabs the Beast in "Beauty and the Beast", Scar murders Mufasa in "The Lion King", Hans betrays Anna in "Frozen", and Elphaba is mistreated throughout "Wicked".
Its not a Broadway production but the shocking ending of The Guy Who Didn't Like Musicals, where the 2 leads and love interests reunite only for everyone to end up dead and possessed, including the main character.
Also, the end of Cabaret
I prefer Pygmalion's ending to My Fair Lady's
For me the most unforgivable thing in Musicals is rewrite musicals with now strong female Characters like in Cats (movie) and Starlight Express. They where good as they where!
Yeah, unthreatening to fragile men!
Hamilton did try not to cheat. He felt so bad for a woman he thought was being abused and got caught up in the moment
The unforgivable part is him using it to save face, not cating hownit would effect eliza
Love Never Dies... just the whole thing existing
These weren't all the same kind of 'unforgivable'. Casting a white guy in a role for a Asian man (which was a producers decision) is NOT the same as most of the other examples which are unforgivable plot lines etc in musicals.
In light of Tommy's recent Broadway revival, there's a big omission here.
It is NOT EVEN A LITTLE BIT all right to leave the boy with Uncle Ernie. (Or... pretty much anything else that happens to the poor kid, but that's the most egregious.)
Even the little snippet of "I'll cover you" that you showed made me start crying. Pryce's casting as the Engineer is shocking? But the multi-racial casting of Hamilton is not? Sorry, mixed signals. In any show, they are actors portraying someone, it doesn't matter the race.
Yeah totally okay to have latinos blacks etc portray historically (non-fictional) white characters but not for a white guy to portray a fictional Asian character? Makes no sense. Either both is okay or neither is.
Evidently it does matter...to you.
The most unforgivable broadway show (not moment) to ever exist is “Love never dies.” It’s the hopefully forgotten sequel to phantom of the opera. It introduces Christine and her husband Raoul as on the rocks, even though in POTO, they were happily in love and they cared for each other. Then, the musical drops a bombshell: apparently, Christine and the phantom had one night together (as revealed in song) which led to the conception of Christine’s son, Gustav. I found this to be hfuristing and unbelievable since, in POTO, when Christine kissed the phantom on the lips, he was shocked because he never had real human affection/contact like this before, so how on earth is it possible that he and Christine slept together before she gave him the kiss?? Nothing here adds up. Also, this would insinuate that Christine is treacherous for promising all her love to Raoul when really, she went behind his back before their wedding and had one night with the phantom. Then, Christine is accidentally (or on purpose, idk) killed and she professes her love for the phantom and he reciprocates right before she dies. Then the musical ends with the phantom and her son starting their new father and son relationship together.
This musical was written only to satisfy the delusional Eric and Christine stans and shippers even though the phantom actually DIES at the end of POTO and had been grooming Christine since she was a child. It is, without question, the worst musical I’ve seen/heard of and j like to pretend that, for the sake of the fandom, it doesn’t exist.
Never knew what it was about. And thanks to your synopsis, I don't have to look any deeper. What a flaming pile of dog poo.
To we true Phantom fans, it DOESN'T exist!
But the Phantom doesn't die at the emd, he disappears.
I think you picked the wrong Judas. Jesus Christ Super Star was so hard hitting. It (SPOILERS) is what inspired Dracula 2000. It made you kinda happy he took his death in his own hands. I haven't seen Godspell all the way, but the modernization would make it hard.
Its crazy hes never acknowledged proportional dwarfism.
Quick question, In Les Miserables who is Marius in love with if not Eponine?
Cosette, the girl he ends up with . . .
@@timv82 isn’t she like 6
@@triforceninja13 Lol, she grows up. Remember Cossette and Eponine were little girls together and E's family used the money C's mother sent to dress E up like a little princess and C work like a scullery maid.
@@teewhyemm1130 wait this show takes place over the course of multiple years?
@@triforceninja13 Lol. Yes, about 17 or 18 years.
You also need to put judge turpin from sweeny todd on the list
He had sweeny tood falsly put in jail, forced himself on sweenys todds wife, and raised sweeny todds daughter as his own
Whats worse, johnathan price playing a half asian or a agentinian (evita movie)?
Y’all really ran out of ideas 😂
Claiming Lindsay Mendez isn't pretty is a crime.
Aida and Radames dying? Try going to the opera, sweetie- If you are going to steal an opera plot, at least stick to it!
I am so wanting a Godspell remake and Sony should make it we’d have the perfect Christian in Joshua Bassett to play Jesus
Cool
Broadway musical and the second entry wasn't even on Broadway lol
Yet... Though in the current Broadway environment I doubt it ever will. The West End version after changes were made was better than the version they keep using now for tours.
Just the way most of the adults sans Fanny Gabor generally treat poor Moritz Stiefel in Spring Awakening... Moritz deserved so much better!!! 🥺😭🤧💔🖤🕊🤍 The teachers treated him like a failure, and his father kicked him out of the house after assuming that he had failed. At least Fanny Gabor tried to champion Moritz.
Love Never Dies is an abomination throughout, but the ending was just pure stupidity. I know ALW had cancer at the time he worked on this, but he shouldn't have let that produce such a sour musical.
21 chump street should’ve been no.1
nah y'all ain't including real life facts as musicals... like omg of course Judas betrayed Jesus, and the real life Hamilton cheated on his wife.
Oh so that’s where that one meme comes from…
Edit: First
What meme?
@@alexhart9267 Look up “Hamilton phone meme”.
Why do you think Freddy Enysford-Hill amazing he literally can't take a hint and practicily stocks Eliza. I am not saying Henry Higgins is much better and whole point of show is all of men in Eliza life are ass holes.
Sooo, all literature, film, music and art must be proactively positive, equitably diverse, and irrationally devoid of irony, sarcasm or human frailty to be credible? ...Sounds kinda formless, bland, monochrome, anti-climactic and hive minded to me... KDM
Mj the musical the best Broadway ever 10/10 and 10/11
Happy monday afternoon, Emily. Take care and God bless you. Greetings from Colombia to you as well