What does CN THINK of Chang LI ONE WEEK LATER

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  • Опубликовано: 22 окт 2024

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  • @shine_at_dusk
    @shine_at_dusk 2 месяца назад +120

    Hand multiplier is such a funny and at the same time accurate way to phrase it

  • @HeliumHe
    @HeliumHe 2 месяца назад +99

    That's the best part for me: A character that is fun to play and not tied to a specific teammate. Can do well in one playstyle and can be pushed to extreme with a specific playstyle.
    When despite doing less "numbers", a character having so much versatility that can cause a discussion two weeks after release on ways to play, I think that is a good design in the long run.

    • @minhtinh1211
      @minhtinh1211 2 месяца назад +2

      i think they nailed changli pretty well. Casuals pull for char design. Hardcore pulls for sweaty combo. Win-WIn

    • @skyguysnips
      @skyguysnips 2 месяца назад +2

      ⁠@@minhtinh1211exactly, coming from someone who played sekiro, star wars fallen order/ jedi survivor, changli is the most satisfying sword characters (as a dps) to play besides yangyang and danjin.

  • @kuratse205
    @kuratse205 2 месяца назад +38

    Changli is a character that was able to show off Kuro's understanding and pure experience in ARPG. Literally THE best kit design in wuwa.

    • @tonyhart2744
      @tonyhart2744 2 месяца назад +1

      her best design is literally just booba and you call that the best kit design in wuwa ???
      well for a month old game thats not really high bar to acquire

    • @tasha2749
      @tasha2749 2 месяца назад +14

      ​@@tonyhart2744He talk about kit and you pointing out about character design, bruh💀

    • @tonyhart2744
      @tonyhart2744 2 месяца назад +2

      @@tasha2749 You cant read????
      thats what I said, her kit is literally bad that the only good design of her character is literally just booba

    • @kuratse205
      @kuratse205 2 месяца назад +11

      @@tonyhart2744 Have you never played an ARPG before? Her kit design is actually top tier for the 3d ARPG genre.
      But knowing that you probably came from genshin... you wouldnt know anything about it.

    • @tonyhart2744
      @tonyhart2744 2 месяца назад +1

      @@kuratse205 oh yes the same top tier kit that need C1 to make her forte stack not get cancelled, damn top tier arpg my ass
      You literally only playing a mobile game

  • @BotChaseWW
    @BotChaseWW 2 месяца назад +46

    changli introduce me to quickswap playstyle and i really enjoy that type of playstyle now. Its fun

    • @mickeyminach9263
      @mickeyminach9263 2 месяца назад +2

      agree

    • @mrconan400
      @mrconan400 2 месяца назад

      IKR

    • @jossyap5430
      @jossyap5430 2 месяца назад

      Do you not lose the outro/intro bonus or weapon bonus such as conviction?

    • @BotChaseWW
      @BotChaseWW 2 месяца назад

      @@jossyap5430 that why you save that big ult and stuff and only do it when youre character is in outro buff state. Quickswap is to reduce long animation while loading other character attacks and edging everyone concerto in the process.

  • @SM-oc4rc
    @SM-oc4rc 2 месяца назад +50

    09:05 "Feels the best" + Sus hand gestures 🤨

    • @nicksm2976
      @nicksm2976 2 месяца назад +1

      He was touching Changli's 'heart'

    • @justjuniorjaw
      @justjuniorjaw 2 месяца назад +1

      Gotta maximise the hand multiplier

  • @botcchidotcchi
    @botcchidotcchi 2 месяца назад +52

    Imo Changli is Kuro best character so far. She's flexible and versatile, fun to play as solo or team, her combos very stylish, good DMG, and she has good potential in the future updates. Her signature only boost her DMG by 10%, but in the positive side I think that makes her more f2p friendly compare to other limited characters. Jinhsi has the highest number but I don't want to play her solo. Her simple play style is fun, can be boring sometimes but it actually help me a lot when I'm so lazy 😂 Jiyan... Well, basically I play other character most of the time to fill his energy and only use him when his ult ready 😅

    • @heyohworld4067
      @heyohworld4067 2 месяца назад +3

      Agreege my best pull yet

    • @tetraavalon3664
      @tetraavalon3664 2 месяца назад +7

      It's less that her signature isn't good, but that the standard 5* is great. Imagine if the broadblade had the same stats as the sword? I pulled Jinhsi's weapon because her broadblade options were trash.

    • @botcchidotcchi
      @botcchidotcchi 2 месяца назад

      @@tetraavalon3664 That's right. My bad I'm using the wrong word, English is not my first language

    • @tsuki3003
      @tsuki3003 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@tetraavalon3664her Sig is good bro

    • @tasha2749
      @tasha2749 2 месяца назад

      ​​@@tetraavalon3664we lick the emerald of genesis shoes untill it clean, but seriously though as a standar weapon the stat is super crack

  • @psych0gaming907
    @psych0gaming907 2 месяца назад +56

    I agree with this video, after pulling Changli I'm saying that her damage is subpar, then after a day of spamming her against Scar on Toa, I have concluded that I'm just not playing her optimally.

    • @ArJay1688
      @ArJay1688 2 месяца назад +10

      Doesn't ToA with Scar on it have Fusion Damage and Reso skill and Atk buff?

    • @s2wuolf508
      @s2wuolf508 2 месяца назад +2

      @@ArJay1688yeah lol

    • @pepsodon
      @pepsodon 2 месяца назад +2

      she is mid

    • @letsrank9349
      @letsrank9349 2 месяца назад +1

      Is it just me for Toa Scar just super tanky. I wasnt able to 3 star Floor 4 because my Jinhsi is doing half her usual damage to him.

    • @loitranmanh3909
      @loitranmanh3909 2 месяца назад +15

      @@letsrank9349 Scar got resistant to spectro this season for obvious reason

  • @Dooood24
    @Dooood24 2 месяца назад +17

    Hand multiplier? Sir i can only do one hand when playing changli

    • @gaobili
      @gaobili 2 месяца назад

      there have been crazy CN players who have beaten hologram level 6 Crownless with one hand or both feet 🙀

  • @_earlgreytea
    @_earlgreytea 2 месяца назад +10

    Wheel chair character is wild😂

    • @josuad6890
      @josuad6890 2 месяца назад

      lmao CN forums got no chill.

  • @LloydOrtiz7
    @LloydOrtiz7 2 месяца назад +11

    shes fun using in elusive realm you can just spam e

  • @redcloud7447
    @redcloud7447 2 месяца назад +8

    She needs a new 4 cost cause inferno rider feels so bad

  • @invarkul7831
    @invarkul7831 2 месяца назад +2

    1 month ago I was freestyling with Encore and Yinlin swapcancels thinking " Daym, Yinlin feels so good to play. I wish they release something like her".
    I didn't like Jinshi much cuz I didn't get the same feeling like I get from Yinlin (also non mommy characters = autoskip). Then they release Changli. Instantly got her and her weapon. Currently sitting at 80\235 sol6.
    Now I just have to wait for someone to play Yinlin with while I'm freestyiling on Scar with Encore + Changli

  • @danalex6109
    @danalex6109 2 месяца назад +2

    That's my secret captain. I always play Chang Li with one hand *giggity*

  • @Kyle81290
    @Kyle81290 2 месяца назад +4

    Anyone that plays PGR knows that Changli is an Amplifier.

    • @reviewreaper8508
      @reviewreaper8508 2 месяца назад

      What's an amplifier? If that's a cooler word for a buffing character than she feels kinda sub-dps instead of true support or coordinated attacker.

    • @mr.edelweiss
      @mr.edelweiss 2 месяца назад

      ​@@reviewreaper8508yes, amplifiers in PGR are mostly supporting the next unit to deal more dmg

  • @mark-the-spider4259
    @mark-the-spider4259 2 месяца назад +9

    Jingliu is Blue, Changli is Red. So now we need a purple character

    • @TheLawlessRogue
      @TheLawlessRogue 2 месяца назад +1

      Isn't Xiangli Yao filling that space??

    • @magoomania6278
      @magoomania6278 2 месяца назад

      ​@@TheLawlessRoguenot a female, sword user

    • @Coke2260
      @Coke2260 2 месяца назад

      Havoc Rover

    • @mr.edelweiss
      @mr.edelweiss 2 месяца назад

      bro is making jjk ref without telling 🔥🔥🔥

  • @ggrimmfield5529
    @ggrimmfield5529 2 месяца назад +3

    Changli made me feel aware when I'm playing again since i gotten used to playing Jinshi. I main Calcharo back then so Changli made me goes back to the roots of "get gud" 😂

  • @Emptiness771
    @Emptiness771 2 месяца назад +13

    Whale chair or wheelchair like yasuo in league 😂

  • @ed.g4711
    @ed.g4711 2 месяца назад +3

    good thing i got changli to s1 pull but the cost was it takes 100 pull to get her since i lost 50/50 first.

  • @ArJay1688
    @ArJay1688 2 месяца назад +30

    Some of these people complaining are just so used to button smashing and skill abuse that they forgot Changli is something else. You have to execute her skills at the right time and with the right conditions. After a week that I got her, i haven't felt this much adrenaline with using a character that so matches my kind of gameplay.

    • @arahaitham123
      @arahaitham123 2 месяца назад +7

      I am looking for certain theorycrafter to do Changli rotation. In the end I just adapt to my enemies, especially Scar in ToA. I hate how aggresive he is while have variety dodge timing, but dodge also mean free true sight for Changli. However I have to be careful ruining the timing to concerto swap from changli to encore because she can fill concerto too fast.

    • @ArJay1688
      @ArJay1688 2 месяца назад +4

      ​@@arahaitham123i actually enjoyed murdering Scar using her and with YinLin. They buff each other cuz of their outro's lol. And yes, i three starred him even though my Changli wasn't that well built.

    • @anyaforgors
      @anyaforgors 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@arahaitham123 Skill issue check is real. I often cancel her ts when dodging because of his aggresive attacks

    • @zakim3O
      @zakim3O 2 месяца назад +4

      This is the word "adrenaline" I freaking love Changli cuz of it. You can't let your guard down but at the same time she's not as clunky as calcharo. Because of her play style the whole team feels dynamic.

    • @ArJay1688
      @ArJay1688 2 месяца назад +1

      ​@@zakim3O yeah. Kinda also ties to her "fire" element

  • @loitranmanh3909
    @loitranmanh3909 2 месяца назад +1

    I don't know much but the feeling I get when I play Changli is exactly the same when I play Danjin but less time on life support and I love it so much. I don't know why but these 2 seem to be born to just go with Verina and clear everything.

  • @SzefAdonis
    @SzefAdonis 2 месяца назад +1

    she is fun 2 play and can melt adds in tacet fields so i dont regret pulling

  • @pivad1388
    @pivad1388 2 месяца назад

    thank you for these translation videos! i'm really interested how CN looks at this game

  • @LostWallet
    @LostWallet 2 месяца назад

    I like her mosty because of the gap closer. Im pretty sure she is literally the only character with gap close ability in the game right now without using intro skill. and to me, the ability to dash around the arena is always a plus, specially when most boss like to run around so much

  • @osxar7188
    @osxar7188 2 месяца назад +1

    damnn tenten knows canto my hing dai

  • @BabageSanfgo
    @BabageSanfgo 2 месяца назад +1

    Wheel chair character 😅 CN player is wild,

  • @2poor2whale
    @2poor2whale 2 месяца назад

    I laughed too much at the "wheelchair characters" lmfao

  • @nguyenho5859
    @nguyenho5859 2 месяца назад

    her smile took my heart, that is enough for me.

  • @Mikasa-.-
    @Mikasa-.- 2 месяца назад +5

    The thing with her R1 isnt really that big of an issue for qol cuz its not required plus the window to get canceled is small i just hope when they do the genshin strat of make a problem and sell the solution to dupes it wont be as drastic as how genshin does it. This is me comparing it to something like neuvilite in genshin where he needs to not be interupted for 3 sec then another 3 after a half sec break.

  • @THESocialJusticeWarrior
    @THESocialJusticeWarrior 2 месяца назад

    I got her because she is pretty and I already have good sword from Rover and good Echos from Encore. Glad to know I didn't f up.

  • @ZZenjinn
    @ZZenjinn 2 месяца назад

    Once changli gets her dedicated echo and a good duo dps (likely scar) then she'll prolly be bumped up a tier

  • @zucris4017
    @zucris4017 2 месяца назад

    The double meanings on this video is hilarious

  • @popo74aa
    @popo74aa 2 месяца назад

    She's really fun and has such a sick design. Honestly even if she healed the enemies I'd probably still use her.
    I'll probably save for whoever ends up being a good pairing character with her, just so I have an excuse to play her more.

  • @hahayuer6186
    @hahayuer6186 2 месяца назад

    If it is about astrite efficiency, then only pull for yinlin weapon(weapon only) and Jinshi.

  • @Steven-bf8gw
    @Steven-bf8gw 2 месяца назад

    Running changli with encore force me to learn quick swap and timing, shes so fun to play and make me actually paying attention not just unga bunga smashing buttons

  • @sorakuuhaku9571
    @sorakuuhaku9571 2 месяца назад

    Changli forced me to rely on quick swap combos that made me realized that I have the capability to execute it. Really, thanks to her I enjoyed playing WUWA more (+ HER TWO BIG PERSONALITIES).

  • @sanzuriver2959
    @sanzuriver2959 2 месяца назад +1

    No, those swap cancelling from last video wasn't for maximize damage output, it's something no one knows about because it's super sweaty and easy to result in a DPS loss instead of DPS gain.
    Those are not necessary to make Changli do good damage. Just regular swap cancelling is all you need. I know you want to push for your own videos, but there is no reason to misinform people into thinking those complicated combo is some sort of baseline to play Changli.

  • @UggoBass
    @UggoBass 2 месяца назад

    Time to use the ol' Dance Pad.

  • @leondrele5128
    @leondrele5128 2 месяца назад

    A thing I've been doing is using her E while having full stacks tho I hold the mouse button , so before she does the true sight, she does the forte, and i find it very good to get the stacks faster it also works with the NA

    • @Joel-mh8nf
      @Joel-mh8nf 2 месяца назад +2

      Yes! She has some moves that combo if you hold some buttons mid animation rather than pressing after.
      You can even stack basic attack skip twice using her heavy attack after B4, this can enable that quadruple phoenix tech

  • @LuxanderBel
    @LuxanderBel 2 месяца назад +1

    All the opinions on Changli sorta stems from her not having an optimal teammate, imo. A support that gives anti interruption buff or a sub dps that can build their concerto super quickly while also giving off field skill damage to changli would already make her incredibly strong and versatile. Currently two of the strongest dps in the game pretty much RELY on their subdps. Mortefi (for jiyan) fuels his ultimate and Yinlin/Yuanwu/or even mortefi (for jinhsi) fuel her forte. Whan that perfect subdps for changli comes out its going to be a game changer for her. I can only hope its a 4 star because currently a s6 mortefi and s6 yuanwu are kinda crazy for their respective teams.

  • @gersomyudha282
    @gersomyudha282 2 месяца назад +1

    when cn player introduce yinlin + calcharo quickswap after yinlin release, i know this game have finger rape section with high action per min

  • @sihno
    @sihno 2 месяца назад +14

    4:40 For context CN thinks Jinhsi > Jiyan > Changli >> Yinlin

    • @arunjosephshadrach9539
      @arunjosephshadrach9539 2 месяца назад +1

      in terms of general powerlevel or pull value or Current ToA or boss fights?

    • @elysiaplushie
      @elysiaplushie 2 месяца назад +2

      ​@@arunjosephshadrach9539Probably power and gameplay in general, if it's ToA changli would've been placed a bit higher due to the fusion buff.

    • @tetraavalon3664
      @tetraavalon3664 2 месяца назад

      @@arunjosephshadrach9539 Definitely not pull value, since we all know Jiyan will be powercrept real fast. With that kind of ranking, it's the current ToA tier list. Yinlin is lacking a good dps partner just like how Changli is missing a good dual dps partner. Calcharo and Encore are lacking compared to Jiyan and Jinhsi. Yinlin will shine a lot more in the next patch. Changli...will suffer in the meta for a bit. Don't know what 1.3 is bringing, but I'm not confident it's a fusion dps lol.

    • @arunjosephshadrach9539
      @arunjosephshadrach9539 2 месяца назад +11

      @@tetraavalon3664 why would Jiyan be powercrept fast? He has grouping and parrying potential - I'd guess he'd do best in floors that have both parry bosses and mobs together.
      Im gonna assume theres not gonna be another Jinhsi released anytime soon as they prolly made her strong cuz of lore relevance

    • @onlybanguish6171
      @onlybanguish6171 2 месяца назад

      Then we get a 5* Fusion main DPS and/or Electro rising Changli and Yinlin stonks lmao

  • @ekantaaditya4388
    @ekantaaditya4388 2 месяца назад

    I would like it if more characters had Changli's design in terms of combat. Easy to use, at least I believe so, but difficult to master. She can obviously dish out high damage but it will be difficult to dish out damage on Jinshi's level with low skll level. However, if you pracice regularly, it will be doable. Kinda like Calcharo.

  • @Bullminator
    @Bullminator 2 месяца назад

    Right now she lacks 4 cost echo that works well with her. I been using 3 cost one, as with driver one she is squisy as you cant realy dodge at animation.
    Geohide Saurian is just simple to use and works similar to jinshi 4 cost echo.

  • @shalldie2163
    @shalldie2163 2 месяца назад

    It perfectly make sense to me. "Git Gud" or get another copy.

  • @denzel4341
    @denzel4341 2 месяца назад

    Players who tested her on trial: wait, this new to people? 😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @activegrass9435
    @activegrass9435 2 месяца назад

    wheel chair character is crazy 💀(i will start using that term)

  • @ironhide423
    @ironhide423 2 месяца назад

    I just want to shred everything with Changli, and solo runs is my way of playing meta build are a headache for me and when I play her, I never swap for anything and I saw a lot of play styles with Changli, but I haven't seen anyone use counter attacks that stun bosses and monsters

  • @realjustic6819
    @realjustic6819 2 месяца назад

    Im feelt she is crazy strong with hyber carry comp with changli jianxin and verina

  • @midwestairway
    @midwestairway 2 месяца назад

    She is hard to play, filling her fortie is a challenge, but she has the numbers.

  • @Red_Throat_Bird
    @Red_Throat_Bird 2 месяца назад

    In principal yes, Meta is not the same thing that fun, because its an efficiency ladder.
    BUT ! Even if the fun is subjective, most of the time the fun is IN the Meta, it is not the Meta but its in. Why ?
    Because the none Meta things most of the time are malfunctioning, not polished, uninspired, etc ... And in the meta there are the most synergistic things (the thing for me that bring the most fun) and the well done kit characters (I dont speak about numbers) and all those things mixed become efficient and define the Meta (or a part of it).
    Many ppl tend to think that meta is a tyrant that tell you to play in a way or an other, but there are many interesting things to learn and do from it that can upgrade your gameplay and pleasure from it.
    The meta is not created by players (theorycrafters) but discover by them because devs created the meta that are the rules of the game, the way that they want you play their game.
    After that if you are the type of player that want to play the game with gameplay from an other game but the game is not design for it, you will not take any pleasure (like ppl that want absolutely juggle everything, if not its almost a "bad game" for them).

  • @Ausku_24
    @Ausku_24 2 месяца назад +1

    I told ppl they are used to jinhsi who does a lot of dmg with 0 effort and no time on the battlefield that they cant play changli cuz of the skill issue and they said u need a lot of skill to know when to use the skill, like its not just button smashing till the end of the combo... Must be hard for the bots to realize.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      must be hard for simps to accept the fact shes weaker than jiyan even in ST and much weaker than jinhsi

    • @Ausku_24
      @Ausku_24 2 месяца назад +1

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz must be hard for bots to understand that she doesnt need to be better than jinhsi its not the same character or style of gameplay. I play her because she is 100 times more fun than jinhsi and actually require both hands and eyesight to be played not like jinhsi that u smash buttons and still perform the combo in 90% of all scenarios did i mention u play with her supports more than with her?

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      @@Ausku_24 must be hard having wrong opinions, just accept the fact changli is mid and isnt worth the asterites lmfao got powercrept by a character that got released on day 1

    • @Ausku_24
      @Ausku_24 2 месяца назад

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz only mid thing here is your mentality and takes, no one cares what team u use if u clear the content. Imagine u press 1 button and win cuz thats the most u can do and i do the same thing with a "mid hero at best" and have the same performance as you but actually enjoy the game. What can i say get a life no one cares only the haters.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      @@Ausku_24 keep crying lil weakling, ur waifu is mid accept it, and guess what im a gamer god who soloed diff 6 mephis no hit with lv 70 danjin more than a month ago now, changli cant even do that rofl

  • @wiredrayne
    @wiredrayne 2 месяца назад

    I'm worried about Changli. She has a short life expectancy because of the damage she caused herself as a child, she speaks of Rover being the closest answer to immortality. She has strong phoenix motifs. Rover needs a way to acquire Fusion at some point. I kinda worry she is going to sacrifice/save herself eventually to become an Echo/Sentinel of Rover's and truly take the form of a phoenix, giving Rover her Flame Manipulation and leave Rover with her dreams of a prosperous world.
    I have a feeling she would be perfectly happy to stay by Rover's side in frequency only, even if its possible she would no longer really be herself.

    • @Cupitron
      @Cupitron 2 месяца назад

      hold on there, changli made it clear saying after mastering the fire element she doesnt "hurt" herserlf anymore in any meanings

    • @wiredrayne
      @wiredrayne 2 месяца назад

      @@Cupitron She doesn't hurt herself anymore but her master said the damage already done can not be undone and she is doomed to have a shorter lifespan because of it.
      Its why he urged her to learn strategy and wit to get by and not rely on brute force until she matured and could control it better so she wouldn't do any further damage.

    • @gaobili
      @gaobili 2 месяца назад

      Kuro just kills off a large number of characters in the latest episode of PGR. So rest assured, Wuwa will definitely see a tragic character death, just not sure if it will happen to changli

    • @Cupitron
      @Cupitron 2 месяца назад

      @@gaobili that will be nuts tbh, kill jinshi she op af hahah

    • @arkcanon1282
      @arkcanon1282 2 месяца назад +1

      ​​​​​@@CupitronWell the latest character that is dead in P:GR is one of the most OP characters there, in lore and gameplay.
      *SPOILER BELOW*






      The latest character that is dead in P:GR is THE MAIN HEROINE of the game.

  • @SigmaLance3375
    @SigmaLance3375 2 месяца назад

    I got hands bro

  • @Meetpandya9898
    @Meetpandya9898 2 месяца назад +3

    Changli(as Subdps) will get a main fusion dps character in future- which can be scar

    • @ArJay1688
      @ArJay1688 2 месяца назад

      I like his Havoc version better. 😂😂😂

    • @ravenwong651
      @ravenwong651 2 месяца назад +3

      Might as well skip Changli whole together and get another off-fields like Yinlin + main fusion DPS

    • @TheLastAirbender3468
      @TheLastAirbender3468 2 месяца назад +1

      @@ravenwong651 you don't need offield dps + onfield dps to have a good team

    • @slippy47
      @slippy47 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ravenwong651 problem is they won't get the fusion buff, that's the point. Yes both are basically the same when it comes to their support capabilities but the way they play is entirely different. Yinlin just fully waste/use her skills and goes out but changli prospers on quick swaps. Idk if that's going to change once a new fusion DPS comes out but right now that's where she excels

    • @anyaforgors
      @anyaforgors 2 месяца назад

      ​@@ArJay1688Who knows. Maybe Scar would be like Rover. A burst dps whose dmg is mainly ult

  • @jue1811
    @jue1811 2 месяца назад +1

    i found it funny, i just woke up, eating and watch your vids, and i don't understand the whole video. in my mind is just "who has no hand" ? is Changli ride a wheel chair ? what is this? ...
    then i finish my food and type this, because i have not watch it again. LoL

  • @aria4487
    @aria4487 2 месяца назад

    TenTen pleaseeee cover the Changli YanYang build!

  • @weskerredfield5176
    @weskerredfield5176 2 месяца назад

    Changli's very good at counter thanks to her multiple hits.

  • @s-zs7nn
    @s-zs7nn 2 месяца назад +1

    Would be great if you gave more context regarding these "CN thinks this opinion that" statements. Like just among the tc forums ur browsing or general consensus in the playerbase. Like in global the consensus opinion is gonna be different than in a theorycrafting discord group. Ngl there were some weird takes there and id be surprised if the majority of cn thinks like that.

  • @kevin10087
    @kevin10087 2 месяца назад

    She fun so yes make characters like her.

  • @quelanthony400
    @quelanthony400 2 месяца назад +1

    If they don’t want to use their hands they can go back to casually snail crawling up walls on Genshin… 😂😂😂 I hope they change nothing about the skill ceiling

  • @nobody-xh6ii
    @nobody-xh6ii 2 месяца назад +1

    Changli is a consistent damage dealer like Jiyan and Clorinde for example. They do lots of numbers consistently and quickly due to the amount of hits they pull off. Where as Jihnsi, Eula and Navia for example are nukes meaning they rely on 1 instances of crit to do stupid high damage. If they dont crit or miss their attack they will often be a dps loss.
    Thats why i prefer consistant dps units vs nukes most of the time. I dont have to worth if my attack crit or not.
    The other issue we have is that we have 1 Verina. Thats it. Making it very troublesome how many teams want HER most of the time. We need more verina type units.
    Healer + sub dps or buffer + shielder or buffer. Since verina is a sub dps + healer + buffer someone like baizhu who's a healer + buffer + interuption resist would greatly appreciated. Preferably a havoc type Baizhu.
    Right now the devs KEEP pushing out nonstop dps units instead of giving us support ones. Its annoying..

    • @TheLastAirbender3468
      @TheLastAirbender3468 2 месяца назад

      Both Navia and Changli are more of "burst" damage dealers , unlike someone Alhaitham, Neuvillette , Cyno ... Who take long onfield time .. Navia and Changli can do their nukes and swap out , ofc you can keep them on field longer, but in Changli's case , you're better swapping to your other DPS instead to deal much more damage instead of using her weak basic attacks
      Changli is alsopretty fast at building her outro : intro ,forte , liberation, forte , double skill with TS is usually enough to fill her concerto so she is made to work with other fusion/quickswap dps

  • @ChinchillaBONK
    @ChinchillaBONK 2 месяца назад

    Qi yu qi lei! Zhuo mo guai! Lei hai guang dong Yan ah?

  • @grymns
    @grymns 2 месяца назад +1

    For the Changli vs Jinhsi debate, i have a feeling that Changli will last longer due to her outtro, Jinhsi as many other main dps will get powercrept faster than Changli with her 20% resonance liberation dmg amp and 20% Fusion dmg amp

    • @midwestairway
      @midwestairway 2 месяца назад

      Jinshi can do 280k every 12 seconds, with just yuanwu and Baizhi or verina, there is no way to power creep her , there will be main dps characters who are similar, but she will stay relevant for a very long time.

    • @grymns
      @grymns 2 месяца назад

      @@midwestairway if they release a character that can do 280k every 10 sec, she's already powercrept

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      this aint genshin lil bro, main dps are the real deal here,

    • @grymns
      @grymns 2 месяца назад

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz tell that Lingyang

  • @Dartheomus
    @Dartheomus 2 месяца назад

    So, do you like her? I pulled for her, and she seems okay. I don't have her built enough to really know how well she does yet. Regarding, "High Skill" characters, I like to refer to them as unreliable characters. The reason I say this is because it's more than just skill. It means the character can't tolerate every fight condition. You have to keep making attempt after attempt until both you AND the boss/mobs sync up. What I mean is that you not only have to play flawlessly, but you also have to get lucky on the RNG of the fight. If anything goes wrong, the "high skill" character goes out the window. So I am a little worried about that going forward. I'm hoping her baseline damage for a face-roller is still reasonable, and that we don't need perfect swapping just to make her viable.

    • @tuxtron1025
      @tuxtron1025 2 месяца назад

      It's far from waiting for the fights to sync, and more like learning how to react to each possible scenario, if you cannot gain TS from the BA chain because of a dodge, well that just made the whole process faster, or when you swap to parry an attack in a thight spot, but that char had full concerto and also speeds up the stacks, it isn't some kind of song where you'll only do good if you can get in sync with your instrument, rather than a choreography it's a freestyle battle, you now the enemy moves as well as yours, thinking what would fit the best after each move is the real skill of the fight.

  • @rayray9145
    @rayray9145 2 месяца назад

    To be fair changli don't need super high skills to play. I just finished all holograms with her on mobile. Obviously you have to know some basics oh building forte. But overall it's not so bad. Love her overall. So satisfying sound and skills.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      average, lv70 danjin from more than a month ago can solo holograms diff 6

    • @rayray9145
      @rayray9145 2 месяца назад

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz yeah, you can probably do it with all characters if built for dmg... What's your point? 😁 People just complain that on mobile, harder ceiling characters are impossible to play. Obviously it's harder, but not impossible.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      @@rayray9145 shes garbage thats all, for how much people say how hard she is, danjin is harder but stronger

    • @rayray9145
      @rayray9145 2 месяца назад

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz no way man... 😁
      Changli definitely has more dps than danjin... Danjin is good, but she is still a 4 star. Even S6 danjin probably do less dmg than S0 changli. And iam preaty sure it's by a high amount. Also it's kinda foolish to look at units seperately. Changli quick swap team with encore is OP... I did level 6 Heron with changli quick swap in like 1min 12sec. And with correct rotation I could probably do it in under 1 min easy, especially when I level my encore to 90...

  • @Nomimonyo
    @Nomimonyo 2 месяца назад

    Wheelchair characters 😂😂😂😂 gahdayum. Explains why a lot of people like Jiyan and Jinshi tho haha

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      also explains that jiyan players can solo holograms no hit taken even while using other character

    • @tuxtron1025
      @tuxtron1025 2 месяца назад

      ​@@qwertysysysyysysysyzzdude is for real so butt hurt and going ham in many comments here, just accept the objective truths and that you like to play with ur brain turned off rather than actively engaging with the game, nothing wrong with a smart person doing easy things because they're lazy, that does make them mediocre though, and it's something they accept in exchange for an easier life.

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      @@tuxtron1025 sure try parrying hologram crownless 1st phase oh wait he doesnt have any moves that can be parried in that form

  • @vixenrana5507
    @vixenrana5507 2 месяца назад +4

    Difficult to justify pulling the character because we have no place to put her that needs/wants her. She's a quickswap burst subdps which where do we even put... if she had coord attacks off-field she would fit in the current roster. Buffing Chixia or Encore slightly is not great value kit wise, so Changli just has no synergy that makes immediate sense with any character at all rn pretty much and as on field dps she has no one to support her like Jiyan with Mortefi or Jinhsi with Yuanwu. Next patch roster doesn't help her too. She is purely a character you pull because you like rn and her value is not obvious like Yinlin's was.

    • @Sonny-sc2fc
      @Sonny-sc2fc 2 месяца назад

      Zhezhi has skill amplifier on her outro. That would be good for changli no?

    • @vixenrana5507
      @vixenrana5507 2 месяца назад

      @@Sonny-sc2fc It would certainly but a small 20% skill buff is all she gets. Zhezhi also can't use Changli's buff cause her coord attacks count as normal attack damage. With Jinhsi Zhezhi- Jinhsi gets stacks on Forte. With Yinlin Xiangli Yao, Xiangli Yao can use both the electro buff and the resonance liberation buff Yinlin gives. So, its not all synergistic of a pairing.

    • @huejanus1333
      @huejanus1333 2 месяца назад +1

      @@vixenrana5507 zhezhi is indeed much better with jinhsi but the 20 percent skill deepen is still really good for changli. Its not a damage bonus it 1.2x the damage after all other calculations

  • @tsuki3003
    @tsuki3003 2 месяца назад

    All these complains just because changli got handicapped on her release lol.
    Imagine not having her best teams and echo yet.
    Also she's something else if you played her quite sometime. She feels really strong for some reason.

  • @blinkjennie1206
    @blinkjennie1206 2 месяца назад

    I got her s3 r1 and got s1 Lingyan too😅 as f2p

  • @ShadowSausage
    @ShadowSausage 2 месяца назад

    The main problem I see is Kuro first drop the strongest "2 button" char that deals the biggest numbers in the game right before Changli, which, *to be on par* , needs DMC skills from player. This on contrast just ruins the desire to pull for her
    I still hope Kuro will do such skill based chars in future, not only Jiyan's Ult - left click combo😂

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      funny that jiyans rotation is more complex than changli's rotation lmao, bet u dont even know his 0.5s and animation canceling techs

    • @ShadowSausage
      @ShadowSausage 2 месяца назад

      @@qwertysysysyysysysyzz I don't and don't need, press lmb and dragon goes brrrr
      After seeing fking excel table of changli rotation I won't believe Jiyan have something more complex than attack - swap - skill - swap back between his dragon swing animation

    • @qwertysysysyysysysyzz
      @qwertysysysyysysysyzz 2 месяца назад

      @@ShadowSausage yeah since ur brain cant understand depth , typical changli simp, all booba but no dmg

  • @Dooooooor
    @Dooooooor 2 месяца назад

    shes still fun with weak hands loool

  • @PaulHofreiter
    @PaulHofreiter 2 месяца назад

    I really hate when devs make playability tied to dupes. It’s garbage design plain and simple. It isn’t a big deal in PGR because they might put something at SS but everyone can get SS for any S rank over time, just from playing the game. In a game like WuWa, however, it’s purely a cash grab and they’re giving you a sub par product on purpose.
    I hope they don’t keep doing this because locking playability or team build options behind dupes makes me stop spending or stop playing. I want something fun if I’m buying dupes - not feeling coerced to get dupes because they didn’t include the whole kit from the start.
    And I love “hand multiplier” lol

  • @mehedi8331
    @mehedi8331 2 месяца назад +1

    I lost 50/50
    😢😢😢😢😢
    F2p

  • @tomekpiatek88
    @tomekpiatek88 2 месяца назад

    Changlis biggest problem is her crit rate and her weapon. Realisticly echoes can give her around 65% crit rate (75% with perfect echo sub stats, but that's not going to happen). The thing is she mostly does damage in single instances if big hits and with 65% crit rate, she will mostly crit every other hit. All this makes her damage inconsitent. On the other hand a standard 5 star weapon will give her all the missing crit she needs. Her signature gives her 56% more skill damage and 44,3% crit damge on lvl 80 (but she doesn't crit), the standard weapon gives her ralisticly 100% damage increase with a cosistent crit. I'm considering reverting her to standard banner 5 star sword with crit rate main stat, but then why did I buy her weapon in the first place. Looks like Changli's kit is S2 bait. It's a bit dissapointing.

    • @sunlightlixie
      @sunlightlixie 2 месяца назад

      ur forgetting to factor in the 5% crit rate base that all characters have, and then her forte skill tree gives her an extra 8% cr. including the 65% from echoes, she’ll be around 78% crit rate which isn’t bad at all

    • @tomekpiatek88
      @tomekpiatek88 2 месяца назад

      @@sunlightlixie 65% crit rate is realisticly an end product - including base line, plus echoes, with skills.

    • @tuxtron1025
      @tuxtron1025 2 месяца назад

      Yet sig weapon is still 10-12% more dmg, harder to build doesn't mean is worse, it's the same as going 44111 until you finally farm good elite ecos, being easier to build early on doesn't remove the fact that 43311 is still better.

  • @stanpixy0183
    @stanpixy0183 2 месяца назад +1

    please find a new hairstyle

  • @woootskie
    @woootskie 2 месяца назад +3

    Most thing I hate about ChangLi is the echo, specifically Inferno Rider. Not only does it take too long which kinda takes away the quick swap play style of ChangLi, if you hold the echo button for a split second longer, it will go into bike mode right in the middle of the fight.

    • @thefakeslimshady6969
      @thefakeslimshady6969 2 месяца назад +1

      Switch to Heron or fire lizard on main slot. Problem solved.

    • @nmjdf_ksd23
      @nmjdf_ksd23 2 месяца назад +3

      I've been hearing alot of people saying this but you can actually swap after the 2nd hit, which will cancel the 3rd hit animation and you'll still get the buff. This takes around 1.8 seconds to do which is not very long, and also it does 808% dmg, that's almost the same multiplier as a liberation move. I have literally never gone into bike mode ever in combat, but i can see how it could happen.. maybe you're mashing the echo key so the game doesn't register you letting go resulting in a 'hold' press or you have a laggy pc/device. Usually that misinput can be fixed by making sure you let go the key.

    • @reedchanuoughh
      @reedchanuoughh 2 месяца назад

      ​@@thefakeslimshady69694 cost echoes give dmg buffs though.

    • @arkabarma3286
      @arkabarma3286 2 месяца назад

      ​@@reedchanuoughhthe DMG buff is just not worth it. 12 fusion DMG is very diluted over her own self buffs. And the basic buff does very lil

  • @pixbud7465
    @pixbud7465 2 месяца назад

    I regret pulling for her since Im a wheel chair guy. In any sense skill issue player.

  • @Iantwi_dg
    @Iantwi_dg 2 месяца назад

    3:19 who??

  • @joaquinchua3348
    @joaquinchua3348 2 месяца назад +1

    Is Encore Sanhua stronger than Encore Changli???

    • @slippy47
      @slippy47 2 месяца назад

      Same range, iirc changli/encore wins but not by much the same way how chixia/changli only has like a 5k-10k difference in team dmg per one rotation.

    • @TheLastAirbender3468
      @TheLastAirbender3468 2 месяца назад

      They are close .. Encore - Changli is slightly better
      You can check this video : Comparing THREE top Fusion teams vs Heron - Tower of Adversity [Wuthering Waves] by Yumi

  • @flow2flow320
    @flow2flow320 2 месяца назад

    She was an easy skip for me cause i got S1 Jinhsi.
    But then i played her in évent and enjoyed her sooooooo much !!
    And about her performances, i suck and don t get nothing about how those Games work. But i paired her with Jinhsi and Verina and i could push further with hologrammes and tower. It was better than with Yuanwu. And there is no Real synergie in this team...
    So absolut non regret at all

  • @ittehitteh9322
    @ittehitteh9322 2 месяца назад

    🤣its always funny to see westerner react to the cantonese names thinking that its offensive. god i swear they cry so easily. its a quirky term used to describe something that isnt meant to be offensive at all but still people can be offended. thats why CN opinion on meta is always better cuz they dont cry every time someone dont say their waifu is no.1

  • @Kyle-yp4wc
    @Kyle-yp4wc 2 месяца назад +3

    Clearly they make her look too good so they had to make her garbage in her kit to be lingyang mate.

  • @kyori75
    @kyori75 2 месяца назад +1

    Who is 'chicksher'?

  • @timmychantc
    @timmychantc 2 месяца назад

    wow Cantonese!

  • @ericjohnson4989
    @ericjohnson4989 2 месяца назад

    So you don't want us to like or comment? Just subscribe? Weird flex but okay😂😂😂

  • @k-BlazeWuthringwaves30
    @k-BlazeWuthringwaves30 2 месяца назад

    if you don't have S1 Changli and S1 lingyang you can just slap Jianix in your team 😂 bozo's

  • @AntonRellik1123
    @AntonRellik1123 2 месяца назад +2

    I dont see why Changli is not considered a "good dps" just because she is a hard to use... numbers wise also I dont see the point... I have seem S6RX Jinzhi doing 800k - 1Mill DPS using Liberation+Forte combo, I have S6R1 Changli and I can do 1mill Dps with a Forte-Liberation-Forte Combo, with Jinshi is way easier to pull that number but again that doesn't mean Changli is that far away to be categorized as subdps/support for future characters just because of her outro... hybrid characters exist they can do both things well... Personally her gameplay is super rewarding and fun I also have Jiyan and got bored instantly Im literally doing nothing just pressing click he is like auto battling during his liberation and outside his liberation is meh.

    • @nmjdf_ksd23
      @nmjdf_ksd23 2 месяца назад +1

      Yea agreed lol, forte lib forte does 1mill dmg. I've seen that damage on other s6 changli's she's pretty strong.

  • @canzonipreferite3791
    @canzonipreferite3791 2 месяца назад

    is Changli + Sanwua s6 fine?

    • @raoni00111
      @raoni00111 2 месяца назад

      I believe it's good because Sanhua R6.

  • @zlokobnisvizac
    @zlokobnisvizac 2 месяца назад

    "Having fun is something that can't be powercrept" is such a bizarre statement, is it; how much fun are you having if you stop being able to clear (at a comparative investment level to other characters) at some point?

  • @chi3fmarz
    @chi3fmarz 2 месяца назад

    lost 50/50 at 78 pity officially hate this char now

  • @daRksideee
    @daRksideee 2 месяца назад

    Before 'do you like her?' question there should be another question 'are you a whale?' pull if yes, if no proceed to 'do you like her?'

  • @RozeSann
    @RozeSann 2 месяца назад

    bro i mean if ppl wanna put terms like wheelchair chars etc and say hand diff, just go play a different game, no matter how sweaty u play or how chill u play u will still clear the hardest content in the game

    • @heyohworld4067
      @heyohworld4067 2 месяца назад +1

      They're talking about meta when they say that. Obviously if you spend enough you'll be able to clear

    • @axylum4453
      @axylum4453 2 месяца назад +1

      Not true. My skill issue can't clear the hp sponge bosses in ToA. I hate ToA with a passion

    • @RozeSann
      @RozeSann 2 месяца назад

      @@axylum4453 just wait get lv90 and u will be able to clear them, as long as ur using any semi decent teams

    • @junyaiwase
      @junyaiwase 2 месяца назад

      @@axylum4453it be like that sometimes

    • @ittehitteh9322
      @ittehitteh9322 2 месяца назад

      🤣this is why westerners dont get the cantonese description. in fact this description isnt even meant to be offensive. its just like the japanese giving quirky titles to stuff but yea westerners get offended easily

  • @grayve4027
    @grayve4027 2 месяца назад +1

    I'm skipping her for Zheszhi so my Jinhsi is happy

  • @thorsendh6948
    @thorsendh6948 2 месяца назад

    Mid character. But smash. Next

  • @jamilmariano6444
    @jamilmariano6444 2 месяца назад +1

    First

  • @Ilyesync
    @Ilyesync 2 месяца назад

    The interruption from S1 is such a scummy move from kuro

  • @Ken-sj1ve
    @Ken-sj1ve Месяц назад

    I think Changli is the worst 5 star in the game, yes even below Lingyang. She cant do anything right.