Arnold Schoenberg, String Quartet No. 3 (1927)

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  • Schoenberg diverged from the serial row-form in this String Quartet to the extent that, when questioned about a particular passage by a violinist from Kolisch's quartet he angrily responded: ''If I hear an F-sharp I will write an F-sharp . . . Just because of your stupid theory you are telling me what to write?'' This is an indication of his
    revulsion towards conceptual responses to composition
    as an actual expression of feeling in sound. He was telling the theorist What it Is.
    How did Kolisch look at it? The tone rows are used as motifs and not as schematic solutions to tonic dilemmas. The series form a dense contrapuntal texture which, apparently untrue to form, return to classical compositional procedure. For example, in the First Movement there is the
    suggestion of sonata form and what seems to be a relaxation of 12-tone technique as the same pitches occur for 12 measures, in apparent defiance of his principled compositional stance. There is a recurrence of varied shapes which function as connective rather than motivic tissue and the movement ends with a leaping and falling theme in an increasingly higher voice.
    In the Second Movement there is a series of variations which violate stylistic expectation and appear to repudiate notions of format and theme. The Intermezzo Movement with prominent viola presents a fluid thematic section, suggesting a motif with a narrow range and repeated notes
    culminating in a violent trio fading to a lyrical conclusion.
    The Fourth Movement is dense and complex with a contrast of internal musical logic and its leaps within a narrow melodic range breathing inconclusiveness and a frenzy to recapitulate sonic material.
    This is what we hear and perhaps how we might respond, but does it get to the essence of it? Strictly speaking, a composition refers to nothing but itself and in that respect Hanslick is right. But let us look more closely. I listen to the Kolisch String Quartet's interpretation of Schoenberg's
    Third Quartet because I have the desire to hear it, a desire which is born of need or curiosity. This is also because of the unfulfilled expectation that the composition will present itself in the way in which Schoenberg wanted, without any concealment or betrayal by a theorist who might imagine that a composition is the end-result of a musicological
    schema. I desire to experience the composition as a collaborative event in which an affective apprehension
    will change me. This is an urge to transformation, not a confirmation of a sedimented emotional life which I might have. It is not a plea for the reassurance of a concretely determined pathology. It is an imaginative way out, a
    reawakening. It possesses the logic of a dream
    which will alter me. The Quartet is, therefore, not so much an object with quantifiable sonic or musicological
    characteristics, but an event. This event takes place in time and it was written on a particular historical occasion. But when I listen to it I do not perceive it as an event in that sense. It is an occasion with a consuming fascination in which the everyday world has evaporated and only
    essential meaning remains. This is the meaning of imaginative and affective apprehension. Quantifiable and calculable external circumstances have disappeared as I give myself over to the event. My apprehension of the
    composition is not chronological but successive, the meaning of which unfolds as I attend to it. This is areal time, not the time of the clock, and its presenting itself is my composition, Schoenberg being the expressive inventor of the circumstance, the one who gives shape and logic to sound. The composition is not analogous to anything but itself and his Third Quartet invokes a meaning of
    which, temporally and affectively,
    I am the secret sharer.
    We listen here for: What it Is.
    Michael Lawrence Woods, Journal of Aesthetics and Culture, 2010
    [This recording is by the Kohon String Quartet]

Комментарии • 52

  • @MegaCirse
    @MegaCirse 5 лет назад +3

    Cette musique est absolument somptueuse....richesse du discours mélodique, harmonies à couper le souffle, orchestration sans cesse renouvelée dans l’utilisation des timbres de l'orchestre, bref une babylonienne architecture sonore érigée par d’humbles et immenses compositeurs-interprètes ! Ce compositeur hors-normes a créé un nouvel univers sonore et chaque interprétation est la création unique d'un univers indépendant, c’est si naturel

    • @mirandac8712
      @mirandac8712 4 года назад +1

      Babylonien en effet! Excellent commentaire... Cela me fait penser à la célèbre remarque de Douanier Rousseau à un certain Pablo Picasso : "Moi je suis le plus grand peintre moderne du monde, et vous : vous êtes le plus grand peintre d'égypt antique de notre temps!"

  • @Johannludwigamadeus
    @Johannludwigamadeus 9 лет назад +9

    Definitely a great work of art - no doubt about that.

  • @sshuck
    @sshuck 9 лет назад +20

    This is probably my favorite Schoenberg quartet, but....
    One of the most hilarious and predictable phenomena of composer shtick is when they disavow membership to the movements they inaugurate.
    Debussy (in a French accent): "Those idiots! I am not an 'Impressionist'! Mon Dieu, what an execrable term! I am obviously a symbolist!"
    Schoenberg (in his strained voice): "Your stupid theory of dodecaphony! Stupid stupid stupid stupid!"
    Stravinsky: Officially hated the dinosaurs, though Hindemith told someone at the time of Fantasia's release that Stravinsky loved them.
    Ahhh, good times.

    • @margatroidderek9285
      @margatroidderek9285 8 лет назад

      wuuuuut

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 5 лет назад

      geniuses get to do stuff like that.

    • @viki2133
      @viki2133 5 лет назад

      Source?

    • @mirandac8712
      @mirandac8712 4 года назад +1

      Stravinsky: "Why is it that every time I hear a piece I truly hate, it's by Villa-Lobos?"

    • @D.A.Trevino
      @D.A.Trevino 3 года назад +1

      The term impressionism was used pejoratively by critics and not by Debussy himself though

  • @CsrlWiener
    @CsrlWiener 3 месяца назад

    My fave among his quartets. A really unique soundscape and the second movement is beyond the beyond

  • @srogamina
    @srogamina 12 лет назад +8

    Thanks for it. Once I thought, that this interpretation is not such good as Lasalle Quartet's, but now I know, that they're incomparable. Schoenberg created new universe of sound and each interpretation is unique creation of independent Universe.

    • @mirandac8712
      @mirandac8712 4 года назад +1

      Same exact feeling here. And I LOVE the LaSalle. But this is pretty revelatory.

    • @morefastmoredates9444
      @morefastmoredates9444 4 месяца назад

      You breathes the air from another planet

  • @MaxPower-grrl
    @MaxPower-grrl 8 месяцев назад +1

    Thank you for this!

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 5 лет назад +7

    This one of the first serial works of Arnold Schoenberg. The serial technique is quite easy to perceive,l istneing v carefully to thr begiining of ther first, second and last movements.

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 5 лет назад

      and...

    • @gerardbegni2806
      @gerardbegni2806 5 лет назад +2

      @@stueystuey1962 What do you mean? I was just explaining that Schoenberg used in this quartet some primary usdes of the series, so the serial structure and the series itself could be easily perceived at the points that I underlind. At the very beginniçg, for instance, the series is split into an accompanying ce'll and a malodic cell. As far as I may remeber, it can be heard melodiclaay at the beginning of the last movement. In fi urther works, the use of the series becomes lore complex and it can hardly be identified by hearing only.

    • @stueystuey1962
      @stueystuey1962 5 лет назад +2

      and I appreciate it! seemed like you were going to continue the thought. all good. I'm a weird listener. im familiar with 1st and 2nd quartets for a long time. third more recently and fourth no knowledge ... yet.

  • @antoniopozo9311
    @antoniopozo9311 9 лет назад +4

    Great work, and great liner notes. Thank you

  • @rorykirker3108
    @rorykirker3108 9 месяцев назад

    Nice and smooth interpretation!

  • @mirandac8712
    @mirandac8712 4 года назад

    They won that year's Grammy award for Best Pizzicato, Dodecaphony (Chamber Music/Small Ensemble Performance) -- deservedly, I might add.

  • @stueystuey1962
    @stueystuey1962 Год назад

    This composer is good. 97 years old and still relevant.

  • @paxwallacejazz
    @paxwallacejazz 10 лет назад +3

    Check out Bernstein on Schoenberg 1-5 on my channel in #3 he talks about this piece .

  • @MrThomas1958
    @MrThomas1958 2 года назад +1

    thx

  • @alananelli8017
    @alananelli8017 2 года назад +1

    Schoenberg had no fear to feel. HIs compositions are absolutely the truth of a feeling which dives into the deepness of what we all have fear to experience. This place, where he is, is huge and he was brave enough to visit each obscure places of it. When will we be capable enough to discover all the hidden places of our minds? What is hidden in it? emptiness? And is emptiness what we pursue the most? is emptiness the origin of everuthing we create? aaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa

  • @filosoforvgsapereaude5020
    @filosoforvgsapereaude5020 3 года назад

    Esta música dofecafonica es difícil de entender pero es de gran valor por su complejidad

  • @j3s0n
    @j3s0n 13 лет назад +1

    Absolutely amazing

  • @ExxylcrothEagle
    @ExxylcrothEagle 11 лет назад

    lotsa fun, great video YAY!!!

  • @manuelvalencia1543
    @manuelvalencia1543 Год назад

    Transcendent beauty in atonality.

  • @filosoforvgsapereaude5020
    @filosoforvgsapereaude5020 3 года назад

    Hay que escucharla con paciencia.

  • @gerardbegni2806
    @gerardbegni2806 6 лет назад +3

    One of the first dodecaphonic works of Schoenberg. The series is obvious at the beginning.

    • @LendallPitts
      @LendallPitts  6 лет назад +1

      This came after several others. If I recall correctly the Wind Quintet was one of the first few large-scale twelve-tone pieces.

    • @gerardbegni2806
      @gerardbegni2806 6 лет назад +2

      Yes, there were a few works before this one, but one cannot say "several". The wind quintet is indeed the most important, with the Suite for Seven Instruments, Op. 29

  • @joerhodes8785
    @joerhodes8785 6 лет назад

    Just got smacked upside the head by four acoustic Jelly 🍩's..... I like jelly Donut's.

  • @stueystuey1962
    @stueystuey1962 3 года назад

    Look. I get it. Carter, Ligeti, and grudgingly a few others it can be said that the "music" devolves into sound events. Transcendental yes.But this guy, this guy, MUSIC. Always!

  • @railroaded1000
    @railroaded1000 10 лет назад +3

    But did he know how to whistle?

    • @budglory5167
      @budglory5167 10 лет назад +11

      Did he know how to whistle? He once whistled Mahler's Symphony of a Thousand from beginning to end, and encored the performance with a Bach 4-voiced fugue!

    • @PaulVinonaama
      @PaulVinonaama 8 лет назад +1

      You forgot to mention that the second encore was Ligeti's Atmospheres, which was only composed 20 years afterwards!

  • @FraterSoddi
    @FraterSoddi 7 лет назад +1

    Wittgenstein's Vienna.

  • @machida5114
    @machida5114 5 лет назад

    12音音楽です。

  • @antoniocarlosantunesantune3217
    @antoniocarlosantunesantune3217 5 лет назад +2

    Bach rewritten for the twentieth century...

  • @michelebeartGIBBONGASCON
    @michelebeartGIBBONGASCON 8 лет назад +2

    *******

  • @stueystuey1962
    @stueystuey1962 3 года назад

    I call a lot of composers genius. Carter, Babbitt, Wuorinen, Henze, Webern, Berg, Ligeti, Boulez, Schnittke, and Bartok but the real genius is Schoenberg.

  • @Johannludwigamadeus
    @Johannludwigamadeus 5 лет назад

    Ja, auch 12-Ton-Musik kann "empahtisch" sein.

    • @Ratselmeister
      @Ratselmeister 3 года назад

      Was ist "empatische" Musik? Wenn die Musik, mich versteht?

  • @ludwigsmodilla9524
    @ludwigsmodilla9524 5 лет назад +2

    Regentropfen auf Glasscheiben

  • @gennagace4934
    @gennagace4934 2 года назад

    でもハ長調

  • @larbaud
    @larbaud 11 месяцев назад

    😂😂😂😂

  • @49jasper20
    @49jasper20 4 года назад +2

    I think it´s too cold and academic!