@@TB-ug4cpactually if the gun fires is a pistol (not revolver) and you have your hand on the slide or back of the gun the lside won’t function properly and will jam the gun. you might get a minor cut on your hand but with the adrenaline you won’t notice it
Also giving him what he wants is not always a good idea. Sometimes he will kill you anyway because he doesn t want to be testified against, doesn t want to leave witnesses behind. You never know. I guess it is a matter of gut feeling. What your instinct tells you to do.
Always give them the object of value in a direction that turns them away from you. If he wants your wallet and keys, throw them behind him so he has to turn and get it
That is possible but you're playing with TERRIBLE odds. Horrendous risk analysis. 99% of the time the thief wants money but doesn't want to become a murderer. It's a far greater charge than robbery. Also 99% of the time you will lose if you try to fight against a firearm with your hands. The math is simple.
What you say is true. However knowing how to do the stuff Nick shows correctly is usefule regardless because sometimes armed criminals not only steal from you, but some of them are on drugs and could torture you or do whatever you can think off. Knowing how to defend yourself after a lot of practice gives you an exit to those situation
I strongly disagree with this. As a lifelong student of martial arts, combat vet, and person who enjoys living, please do not do attempt to disarm an attacker that is holding a pistol on you, especially to your head. The percussion shockwave of most pistols at that range, even as a complete miss, will most likely render you unconscious. It can even rupture your skull at the temple and end you. Slow the video down and notice how on the very first close, pistol to the skull iteration, the student pulls the trigger while he is in the line of fire. It takes the instructor a few times to get his timing down, and he has obviously practiced this hundreds if not thousands of times! What if it's a revolver and you can't grab the slide? What if you miss the slide because your hands are slick with sweat because your body just dumped a million adrenaline molecules into your system ..... Plus, and most salient here, attackers do not react in real world situations like they are trained to act in the training studio (ask me how I know). If he ( the instructor) would have grabbed my hands I would have brought both of my elbows forcibly down to my hips, immediately jerking my hands back (since they are connected to elbow and) most likely pulling the gun back into my control. (People are MUCH stronger AND faster than martial arts scenarios account for). I also might have smashed him in the face with my left fist or elbow as his guard is completely down. Most people loose all muscle control when they get punched hard enough in the face (ask me how I know lol) Then I would have emptied that magazine in him..... My Point? There are countless things an attacker could do in response to the instructors initial defense counter. Bring drugs into the equation, and you are literally fighting someone 2-3 times stronger than you who is not feeling pain and might have nothing to lose (a deadly combo). Also, you can't train for scenarios....This is just a modern spin on technique memorization driven training that has made modern American martial arts so ineffective. Your assailant rarely if ever does what you want them to do or what you have trained for......I mean, never......It's freaky.....but true. Better to train your balance, posture, coordination, and ability to move fluidly and with stability. Techniques are to slow in combat situations. Then you can adapt in the moment to the situation at hand instead of relying on techniques you have not trained enough to make second nature, and can only do on your dominant side....We are not John Wick......
Totally agreed , I would simply my hands up if someone is pointing a gun at my head won't be a moron trying to disarm a gun. Like seriously I don't want a hole in my head.
He did say that if the person with the gun is asking for money or your wallet that you should just give it to them. But, if you think they are going to kill you and they are dumb enough to place the gun up close to you, and you feel certain they are going to kill you, then it is possible to grab the gun, prevent a hammer from dropping if it has one, prevent the slide from cycling, get the aim of the gun away from you, and create a new combat situation where both attacker and defender have a hold on the same gun. If you can have two hands on it to their one, so much the better. I've practices this with a gun held to the front or back, but up close. It is also very, very easy for a person with a gun to hold the gun in such a way as to make such a move impossible, by keeping the gun either distant enough or protected against a sudden grab for it. Still, trying to disarm someone with a gun should only be tried if you feel certain they are going to kill you anyway, because then your choices are to die without trying or to maybe die trying.
when I was sparing, if someone was dumb enough to place their gun close enough to the target while not pulling the trigger, the target could grab the gun before the trigger was pulled and put the situation into a contest for control over the gun, with the target having two hands on the gun. If the gun had a hammer, the hammer would get stopped and this was a repeatable regular result changing between who was the attacker and who was the target. But, this could easily be prevented by the attacker NOT being dumb with how the gun was used.
First of all as someone with many years of martial arts and firearms training , I can tell you that anyone with firearms training will not be dumb enough to move to put the gun against st your head in grabbing range. A firearm is a distance weapon. I would be out of grabbing range , with the firearm pointed at your chest. Try using that head shift to move before getting shot
Most criminals probably don't have proper training and are just street thugs and/or desperate. Also, there might not be much space depending on the environment. Either way, better to know how to handle some scenarios than no scenarios.
exactly.... this is an awful video simply because someone that is impressionable will think this would actually work, and they will end up getting shot.
The moment the guy can pull the trigger so close to your head AND ear, you're done. The explosion will make you almost faint as well as you're probably deaf then, at least on the side the gun was shooting.
@andreasplienegger835,Exactly, the amount of gases that come out in thousandths of a second will possibly empty an eye, or rupture the eardrum, leaving the victim completely out of action. It's best to throw away your wallet and keys, and start backing away and running away.
@@tanguito0007I Right! I teach my students exactly that.. Whatever weapon the other guy pulls out of his pocket, give Himmel your wollen, watch and phone and back off. It's not worth it as it is delusional to think you can fight an armed guy and come out without any injury.
The first two seconds sums it all up. Don't be an idiot and try to "disarm" someone pointing a gun at you. No one worth their salt will hold a gun within reach for you to grab.
I disagree. how's he going to rob you, how's he going to do a home invasion, etc. Muggings don't happen with a guy with a gun standing 30 feet away demanding your wallet.
@@deusanti " Best defense against a firearm is your own firearm." He's already covering you with his gun, though. If you're going to move, it should be a move to get the gun away from you, not to draw your own. If you had time to draw your gun and fire, you had time to use an unarmed technique to move the gun and close in for a takedown etc. (I mean takedown as in, he's on the ground and you're still standing.)
Unfortunately it’s got little to do with salt and most likely lots to do with a different type of white powder these days. People high on speed, coke etc. don’t behave like in these “training” videos. Remember this. Always …
@@m3photo726 "People high on speed, coke etc. don’t behave like in these “training” videos. Remember this. " You'd have a huge advantage on someone like that, though, being in your right mind. 🙂
Works or not, please give these guys an applause for trying to help people. At least they gave us something to think about, instead of being completely unprepared, when facing danger.
@1000YardShooter Of course, it's dangerous. That's the whole point of disarming. And in the movies, the victim disarms by removing the gun and then pointing it at the assailant with lightning speed, something only highly skilled professionals can do repeatedly.
Yeah, and now the criminals know how to rob people without the innocent bystander being able to disarm the criminal. I understand people want to spread advice to help others, but publicly post a video where even criminals can see is ignorant.
Applause? Fake self defence videos will kill you! They don't try to help to you at all they try to get viewcount and subscribers on you tube. You are so naive, it's unbelievable. A real good advice in dangerous situations: stay away! run! do what they say! And you have to most chance to survive.
Credit for getting people killed?!?! This ONLY works if you attacker is dumb enough to just stand there. You'll notice you've never seen this done to anyone with even a modicum of experience
My takeaway: most people, when someone sticks a gun to their head, would instinctively move their head backward, leaving them off balance. Moving the head forward to meet the gun would imply resistance, daring the bad guy to shoot. And just moving the head slightly sideways would get a disorienting earful of muzzle blast. If you believe they'll shoot, wait until he's close, and deflect the muzzle away from you with your cross-hand as you grab his wrist with the same-side hand. If you can grab the gun and clamp onto it tightly that would either prevent the (semiauto) gun from firing (if you could simultaneously nudge the slide backward, taking the gun out of battery),, or if it fires, you would prevent the gun from cycling for a second shot as long as you can maintain your grip on it. Sound complicated? There's never a guarantee if you try, but there's a sure thing if you don't.
Okay I'm confused. Everything makes sense untill the end. Is this the full video? Disarm at end should be left hand on barrel, right hand on back triangle. If it's held by two hands you should use 3 points of contact by also clamping with the closest arm. Easy to disarm then
If you're gripping tightly around the slide while the first shot is being fired, there is a very good chance that the pistol will jam, and need to be cleared, before it will fire a second shot. Just a little food for thought.
the head weaving, like evading a punch, from the muzzle might work. judging from the impact sound of the hammer/striker. The impact means the hammer/striker strike the primer of the cartridge burning the gunpowder inside that pushes the bullet moving through the barrel out from the gun. That will take milli seconds to happens. by the time the bullet leaves the barrel, the head, moving out in milli seconds, is already out also from the line of impact, the head,
that gun pointing works for those who are slow but might work for those who are quick and anticipated that kind of gun pointing that the pointer is even surprise by the quick counter move that he can not press the trigger quickly and it is too late.
When I was in the police academy, the disarm method we trained for was similar. Although, it trapped the assailant's finger inside the trigger guard. We were told to literally rip the firearm out of the assailant's hand, resulting in at least removing the skin from the trigger finger ("degloving"), if not severing the finger altogether. That's one way to get an asshole's attention.
So what happens if the gun is 2-3 feet away? too far to reach out and his reaction time is better. How do you combat that? Most holdups tend to be from a distance.
If it's a robbery, you hand over any valuables and pray the guy leaves. If it's kidnapping, you decide if you would rather try close distance and fight while hoping that you don't get hit in any vital locations or do you do get kidnapped hoping that things will work out eventually. That said, even having a pocket knife could help even the odds if you survive closing the distance first. Trying to out maneuver a gun from a distance is unfortunately just down to luck.
You don't. And if his reaction time is better? All the worse. You need to have an optimal scenario in all departments, if his reactivity is better than yours you're simply out of luck unfortunately. If he's too distant, again, out of luck.
This was good. There's a technique in close dropping straight down. Hands shoot up under the wrists of the attacker at the same time. Those side movements trigger the shooter reflexes.
@@Pjsindoccone1231 ive been in more real life fights than i can count, with multiple attackers, weapons, etc.... and this guy's so called defense against guns WILL get you killed you try that crap
I’m deaf in one ear and ringing , I can’t see cuz the muzzle flash in my face but I’m good. Shoot that’s a semi auto? How many bullets does that carry?
It takes time to notice an injury. I'd like to think that I'd have control of the weapon and be holding it on the aggressor by the time I noticed that I was half deaf and sinsged on the side of the head.
@@SteveBaxter927what the hell do you mean? People don't point a gun to your head for fun, it's because they want something from you! If you're being robbed with a gun you do what they want and you go back home alive. Or you prefer acting like a hero and die like a mongol?
But with his finger being inside of the trigger guard, shouldn't the goal be to make him want to separate from the weapon by using leverage to ry and break his finger by bending the weapon in a direction based on whether he is a right or left handed shooter?
I see that many instructors dont know that the blast of any medium-high power caliber will left you deaf, blind and probably your head will be injuried and bleeding... just from the gas presure of the shot, even evading the bullet
1st of all Kudos for showing a two handed grip. Every other video Ive see has been 1 handed grip with the arm extended. Coincidentally a friend of mine who’s highly trained in defensive firearms & background in Krav Maga (my background is American Kenpo) and I were practicing gun disarms today. We worked on 1 &2 handed gun holds. I used a modified kenpo technique which woked against 1 hand but against2 handed grip we wound up in the exact body manipulation scenario. However, when I stepped in with the rt leg (gettingout of line of fire) while trapping the gun with only my left hand while using my right hand to deliver an upward palm strike to his left mandible and continued the motion of my my right hand still couldn’t disarm him. So I struck him w a right back fist to his right mandible. And brought back to gun and was able to to disarm. He was trying to pull the gun away and use an arm bar as in your scenario but my strikes prevented him from doing so. Notes: 1) For safety reasons my strikes were light contact but his attempts to disarm me and execute his armbar were at full power. My disarm would likely be easier if I used full force. 2 All of the other disarms against 1 handed grips failed against 2 handed grips. with some resulting in the defender being shot even though he got initially got out of the line of fire. 3. Our scenario was an experienced gunman holding the gun w 2 hands close to his chest (but w in reach) and pointed to the defenders chest. AgIn, excellent video! I look forward to trying your technique as well other techniques with w the gun aimed the head!
I appreciate that you are thinking aboit these problems, but seriously... grabbing a pistol like thst will rip apart your hand. Also I dont recommend firing a 9mm one inch from your face/eye/ear. Getting out of sight line yes, and if you have to fight do it. But move MORE, zone your body to outside, turn, and hit the hand grab arm etc (if you still alive) wrestle for the weapon
I have wrestled and did martial arts for 50 years, this guy is one of the best I've seen, alot of people still follow traditions but this guy thinks real world! Traditional is good but takes to long and very often doesn't even teach applications, kinda want to keep the mystery so you keep spending$$$. thumbs up my man!! I would work with you!!!
Good, really good moves. May i suggest taking that gun from attacker with breaking off finger (not in training tbh)? That was just one thing that blew my mind when I went to Japanese Ju Jutsu. To be honest JJJ broke me like a regular Karate guy, but in the good way :) Also need to say that our sensei was black belt in Karate, did some Judo and also had some some years in boxing (after loosing to a boxer as a black belt). So that was some crazy stuff we learned to combine JJJ with some boxing and other stuff.
you can use the video just tap on pause as soon as his head moves and you’ll not be able to pause before it moves out of the line of fire. average reaction time 250ms, and the head can move in like 100ms
Grabbing the gun as you move is effective , depending angle & how close you are I know from experience but you just gotta have those quik reflexes alotta people dnt have✔️
1.45 is a realistic situation, since two days ago I ended up in exactly the same situation, the difference is that I had the gun pointed at my chest, thank goodness I ended up controlling the situation. It really came to me by instinct because I am not trained in weapons. On the other hand, I do train bjj and mma.
That needs allot of training, it probably wont work if you full with fear and you probably only get one chanse.. If you right handed you allsow probably move your head to the right like he did.. on top of that people wont go so close to shorts anyone, thats the whole idé with a handgun, that you dont need to get that close. At that range one would probably us a knife
The key is to ask him a question right before you go for the disarm. It will retard his reaction time by at least 0.5 seconds. For example : Gun man points a gun at you and is within disarming distance. You get your hands up. Gun man says, "give me your..." You then say,"how much do you want? 0.5 seconds after you say the last word (want) then you go for the disarm. Works like a charm.
Great channel. I don't know why people with a gun need to get four or five feet away from you. If you have a firearm stay 15+ feet away from the target.
What do you do when someone has a gun pointed at someone you love and says hand over your wallet or purse and then points the gun at the other person and does the same thing?
Literally a disarm is to get the weapon away from the assailant and get away fast as possible but if you end up killing the assailant you could actually get arrested This is no cap.
What if you will start looking somewhere behind his back giving him a feeling that somebody is coming or watching and wheb he will try to check this your actions begin
Standing tow to tie helps in all fighting. But I’ve had guys move first and I’ve caught their hands or hit them first. Natural talent. Better to get them talking. If they are talking they generally won’t see you move so easily. They are talking the you disarm.
You lose your hearing from proximity of the muzzle. Who would put their hand gun so close to the head. In close quarter you would keep the firearm at waits level and use your other hand to hold the individual at bay.
I was criminally charged with disarming a Toronto Police officer. I did this while I was handcuffed from behind and had two officers grasping both my arms. I'm mentioning this not as a brag, but moreso because I don't like cops because they are abusive to people they consider vulnerable. I'm mentioning this to embarress the Toronto police whose average constable makes over 100k a year. With overtime; doing stuff like traffic control and enforcing the no-toboganning law on the many valleys in Toronto that are too steep for city-funded lawyers worried about liability. And then there's the street hockey law enforcement controversy. One cop, with overtime, made over 300k in one year. This is why I'm mentioning the fact that an old man can disarm a Toronto cop while in handcuffs. I did put the gun back in his holster. Why? Because there is no tactical advantage of having a fully armed Glock with a mag of 15 41 calibre hollow point bullets. The "crime" I was arrested for was eventually dismissed (after spending months in jail), and even the disarming a cop charge was also dismissed. No explanation given. I did emphasize to my lawyer about the initial dubious charges, which I assume he investigated enough to get them dropped. And as for the gun charge; I emphasized to my lawyer that the liability was with these key-stone, over-paid and over-valued cops. I said I should not be punished for the incompitence of a cop who can't even keep control of his gun with a handcuffed prisoner! Again; I was NEVER given a reason why these charges were dropped, but I did imply that I think I know why, just through logical reasoning. I still can't figure out why a cop would admitt to his superiors that his most lethal weapon was comprimised by an old man (in his 50s) while handcuffed and being escorted to the cruiser to be brought to jiaaa I was criminally charged with disarming a Toronto Police officer. I did this while I was handcuffed from behind and had two officers grasping both my arms. I'm mentioning this not as a brag, but moreso because I don't like cops because they are abusive to people they consider vulnerable. I'm mentioning this to embarress to Toronto police whose average constable makes over 100k a year. With overtime; doing stuff like traffic control and enforcing the no-toboganning law on the many valleys in Toronto that are too steep for city-funded lawyers worried about liability. And then there's the street hockey law enforcement controversy. One cop, with overtime, made over 399k in one year. This is why I'm mentioning the fact that an old man can disarm a Toronto cop while in handcuffs. I did put the gun back in his holster. Why? Because there is no tactical advantage of having a fully armed Glock with a mag of 15 41 calibre hollow point bullets. The "crime" I was arrested for was eventually dismissed (after spending months in jail), and even the disarming a cop charge was also dismissed. No explanation given. I did emphasize to my lawyer about the initial dubious charges, which I assume he investigated enough to get them dropped. And as for the gun charge; I emphasized to my lawyer that the liability was with these key-stone, over-paid and over-valued cops. I said I should not be punished for the incompitence of a cop who can't even keep control of his gun with a handcuffed prisoner! Again; I was NEVER given a reason why these charges were dropped, but I did imply that I think I know why, just through logical reasoning. I still can't figure out why a cop would admit to his seniors, and defacto to the public court system, that he had his most lethal weapon taken from him by an old man (in his 50s). I gave the cop his gun back, and he would have been free from (what I suspect would be criminal charges involving negligence to keep control of your most lethal weapon). All charges were dropped without explaination by the court or my lawyer who quit on me on the day I was in court and learned that all charges were dropped. Never trust a cop. They fight dirty (punch you from behind without warning or reason, they lie in court (purjury), and judges generally accept the cops testimony, however weak it is, because the Legal System is CORRUPT, and not just in Canada. It's a FARCE!
Problem is anyone who knows firearms will never move close to you…that’s the beauty of pistols they work 30m away so why put it on ur forehead…also you don’t need to move ur head sideways…just turn ur head the pistol will go past you…as seen in Krav Maga same in back or chest…rotation
Really??? If the gun fires with your hand on it it will cause sever pain in your hand, ear, and if your head is not clear, likely render you unconcience. You will likely recoil from the discharge and the attacker will get you with the rest of the mag.
The only time that I've had a gun in my face, initially, I froze, and was feeling I had to comply with the gunman. But then something in my brain triggered something else , I threw what I had in my one hand, which was a cow hoof (the ones that dogs chew), and then in my other hand, I was holding a glass of wine, and a torch. I dropped the torch as well, and I ran. I ran as fast as I could, got inside my house (I had been in my garden), put the wine down (where are my priorities???!!!!!), slammed my door and hung onto the handle. The gunman had been taken off guard long enough to give me a split second advantage and only got to the door when I had closed it. He pulled and I hung on. Luckily the door pulled outwards, not inwards. At that time, my brain went out of surviv mode only and I hit the alarm button by the door. No idea how come I was so lucky to get thru this unharmed. Only when the alarm went off and he was running away did he fire shots (at my dogs.... Luckily he did not hit them and they were fine), but I think he was not at all well gun trained, or calm. This saved me . I never thought I would run, would not have thought to disarm him. .. maybe a woman thing? Hope I never am in that situation again
Years ago the secret service contracted a couple if SF guys to develop a system that worked. It is effective 90% of the time usung simunitions. The demo here isn't realistic either.
True. In self defense we must also train a bit with hearing guns , getting used to the sound because the sound in itself can freak people out . It s good to shoot in a range from time to time at least and understand how a gun works. It helps
You know.... In these situations you don t feel or hear or see much anymore. If trained enough, u ll be too focused on taking out the aggressor and getting out of there soon as you can
Not true. As a combat veteran who didn't always have ear protection on, I can tell you.. Under stress, you experience dimished sound. I've heard guns go off right next to me and it sounded like someone tapping their finger nails in a window. There are two sides to self defense. Armed or unarmed, the principles are the same.. Theres the physical skills you need. And then the understanding of anatomy and psychology. If you only train one, you are losing.
So you would rather be a pansy and take it? Use common sense if you have any! The moving of the head is the first move, you have to follow up with more moves obviously!
I believe head movement was just step 1 of the drill he was demonstrating. Did you make a video how to defend against point blank gun that was better? Or did you just drop to your knees, cry and beg attacker in yours?
If it's a expert Gunmen you will see how he carries himself with the gun and if you don't wanna die you shouldn't try anything on a gun when the shooter aims to shoot you
All of this is a long shot, no pun intended, so many martial arts teachers do these choreographed "you do this and I do that" type of scenarios. Rather trust your instincts about situations that could be risky to you or people you are with or anyone else near you. Attempts at disarm inevitably end up with someone getting killed and are not learned via youtube. one needs specific training probably by special services, SAS or SEAL one on one for quite a while Carry your own weapon drawn and ready if you feel uneasy don't do what this guy is doing and besides all of this does anyone have any idea of their own response when a gun is pointed at you I think not. It happened to me in Singapore on a crowded street and I just handed over my wallet there and then yet I would have had no hesitation fighting back if the guy wasn't armed.
Not meaning to be disrespectful here, but one of the biggest problems I see with almost every single video on RUclips almost all of them is that there’s no reality in the attack or attacker. It’s one thing to slow things down for demonstration purposes, but almost one thing that nobody demonstrates is the emotion of the attacker. If you want to simulate a realistic attack, whether with a gun or with hands, you need to show the attacker, angry, or pretending to be hyped up on something, or very afraid and nervous, at the very least moving the gun back-and-forth a little as if he’s tracking the guy so if the guy moves a hair, he’s gonna point the gun at him. You’re talking about being able to move your head faster than he can pull the trigger you, but you can’t really prove that until he’s tracking you with that gun and he has nervous energy or anger or whatever. That’s the true measure of a simulation.
Hobo, I generally agree with you. This is the 1st video I’ve even seen with the gunman using both hands. (See my earlier post for my comments on that) and almost all have their gun arm extended. Great if you’re in that situation, Not realistic A friend and I have been training with each other for a couple of months. He’s a highly trained tactical gun guy with some martial arts background and my background is martial arts w some gun training. We are training situations against weapons (Knives, Guns clubs). We are putting the video stuff to task in more realistic situations, including skilled shooter who knows how to prevent being disarmed. (Inluding techniques we learned and modified.) Once we workout the kinks we may do a video modifying techniques. You bring up a good point about the crazy wild man. Unfortunately for safety reasons there are limits to what what u can do in training. We will work on that scenario. However , my opinion is that scenario would be simpler. 1st You can assume that he isn’t just a robber. If some is pulling the gun on you it’s easier to check the weapon bc u can avoid are not starting within the line of fire. 3rd It’s impossible to train an actual IRL scenario you mentioned. Both the attacker and defender will be full of adrenaline and under enormous stress in an environment very different than a training dojo. I hope we can eventually put together a video that’s as realistic as possible, including simulated real life scenarios. Again you raise good points and your criticisms are constructive.
@@zalsat16 Thanks for responding. I hope my comments weren’t disrespectful or troll like! In my experience with some minor real life situations I find that in the moment if your in a confrontation and your emotions are high, it’s hard to remember to do this or that, so you let your training and instinct kick in, but in my experience your brain is focused on the other person and not so much on what I’m going to do! I’ll watch the video again and there were definitely some good points on there! Thanks again!😀
@@hobowithawaterpistol9070 Not disrespectful or trollish at all. I agree with you. Bruce Lee once said (paraphrasing) “you have to train and train so that when you need it (snaps his fingers) like that without thinking.” Just to expand on this. There are 3 stages of training. 1) Ideal phase. This is learning the choreographed techniques against a specific attack. The opponent is complying with your technique and every thing you do works as it “should”. 2nd. This is the “What if stage” this is where you use the choreographed technique, but there’s an issue: Ie, the opponent doesn’t react to your strike as planned, or does something unexpected. How would you adapt? 3rd is the Spontaneous stage. This is where you execute the choreographed technique automatically, including the adapting to any “what if’s” automatically. 4th is the fluid stage. This is where you instinctively react to an attack. (Iike to call it the FUBAR stage). Here you don’t know what the kind of attack is coming, the opponent isn’t a training partner and you don’t know what kind of skills he has. (i.e is an untrained thug? Is he a boxer, wrestler, have training in karate, bjj, etc). The environment might be a factor, What clothing are you and he wearing? Will he pull out a weapon? Is he taller, faster, and/or stronger than you. Is there a friend who might jump in. Now all the techniques go out the window and you react instinctively, adapting to the situation as it changes, without thinking and adrenaline surging. Later, when you’re asked what you did, you’d only be able to say “I just reacted.” You probably won’t even remember any details. I think this is the stage you’re talking about. The natural response is to focus on your opponent. You mentioned “minor incident”. If someone pushes you and you poke his eyes out, you’ll probably go to jail. Moreover, a minor incident can quickly escalate. For example anyone in a car accident has probably had the other guy screaming at you. How you react would depend on him. Does he have a weapon? etc. Suppose he’s calm and you’re exchanging insurance info and he suddenly punches you. You block the punch but “what if” he pulls a knife to stab you with his other hand. You’ve never learned a technique for this, but your muscle memory applies part of a technique you learned for something else. This all “just happens.” It’s extremely difficult to train for this stage. Actually it’s impossible bc neither you nor your partner can use full force. And of course no matter how skilled & training, victory is never guaranteed. IMO it’s impossible to show the fluid stage on video. I just wish more people making these videos would admit the limitations of the techniques instead of marketing them as “the best” “Fastest” or “one simple way” to deal with a situation. Thanks for your posts. You raised exactly the right questions. Most comments I’ve seen on these videos fall into 2 groups. “What a great video” or “This is crap and doesn’t work.“ Keep it up Hobo!
@@zalsat16 I finally found the channel that seems to have in my opinion the most realistic in the moment attacks or confrontations. It’s called Urban Combatives School of Self Protection. I think regardless of the martial arts, it’s good to get some friends or students to test each other and see what happens! I remember one year we had this big guy with almost no neck come into our class on his first day. He had experience in another art and picked up quick in our class. The instructor called him up because he was big (nicest guy btw) and tried to do a technique on him and failed miserably! It was so embarrassing to watch. I love what I do, but I try to be humble and honest and question the reality!
Sometimes it simply comes down to who's MUCH stronger, MUCH faster,and has ZERO telegraph...2 ppl can perform the exact SAME disarm with completely different results.👀💯💯💯💪🏾🧔🏾♂️
I know you can't train with a real loaded gun without tye safety on. My point is a if a criminal has a real loaded gun at you your defense will be much different when your training with a toy gun. You will be able to defend against a toy gun. A real gun much different.
Fair point. What they have here is good since you get some clicking action. Maybe a bb gun? Wear some goggle for protection and if you get clipped you have something to hit you and not kill you lmao
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What happens to your hand on the slide when he fires? Bet you want have control anymore.
@@TB-ug4cpactually if the gun fires is a pistol (not revolver) and you have your hand on the slide or back of the gun the lside won’t function properly and will jam the gun. you might get a minor cut on your hand but with the adrenaline you won’t notice it
I’ve got a better tactic: it’s called the m1911a1
Ending up on shattered eardrum.
true really stupid advice i would prefer my brains on the roadside than being unable to listen to tailor swift...
And blinding in the left eye from muzzle flash burns.
Take that over a bullet though anyday
@@zamasuawaken1908why was this so good 😂
@@zamasuawaken1908I'd rather have my brain splattered than listen to Taylor Swift
Also giving him what he wants is not always a good idea. Sometimes he will kill you anyway because he doesn t want to be testified against, doesn t want to leave witnesses behind. You never know. I guess it is a matter of gut feeling. What your instinct tells you to do.
Always give them the object of value in a direction that turns them away from you. If he wants your wallet and keys, throw them behind him so he has to turn and get it
Next, teach us how to disarm a rock from a 10 year old Palestinian child.
That is possible but you're playing with TERRIBLE odds. Horrendous risk analysis. 99% of the time the thief wants money but doesn't want to become a murderer. It's a far greater charge than robbery.
Also 99% of the time you will lose if you try to fight against a firearm with your hands. The math is simple.
@@kingkazuma2239what if he forces you to pick them up?
What you say is true. However knowing how to do the stuff Nick shows correctly is usefule regardless because sometimes armed criminals not only steal from you, but some of them are on drugs and could torture you or do whatever you can think off. Knowing how to defend yourself after a lot of practice gives you an exit to those situation
I strongly disagree with this. As a lifelong student of martial arts, combat vet, and person who enjoys living, please do not do attempt to disarm an attacker that is holding a pistol on you, especially to your head. The percussion shockwave of most pistols at that range, even as a complete miss, will most likely render you unconscious. It can even rupture your skull at the temple and end you. Slow the video down and notice how on the very first close, pistol to the skull iteration, the student pulls the trigger while he is in the line of fire. It takes the instructor a few times to get his timing down, and he has obviously practiced this hundreds if not thousands of times! What if it's a revolver and you can't grab the slide? What if you miss the slide because your hands are slick with sweat because your body just dumped a million adrenaline molecules into your system .....
Plus, and most salient here, attackers do not react in real world situations like they are trained to act in the training studio (ask me how I know). If he ( the instructor) would have grabbed my hands I would have brought both of my elbows forcibly down to my hips, immediately jerking my hands back (since they are connected to elbow and) most likely pulling the gun back into my control. (People are MUCH stronger AND faster than martial arts scenarios account for). I also might have smashed him in the face with my left fist or elbow as his guard is completely down. Most people loose all muscle control when they get punched hard enough in the face (ask me how I know lol) Then I would have emptied that magazine in him.....
My Point? There are countless things an attacker could do in response to the instructors initial defense counter. Bring drugs into the equation, and you are literally fighting someone 2-3 times stronger than you who is not feeling pain and might have nothing to lose (a deadly combo). Also, you can't train for scenarios....This is just a modern spin on technique memorization driven training that has made modern American martial arts so ineffective. Your assailant rarely if ever does what you want them to do or what you have trained for......I mean, never......It's freaky.....but true.
Better to train your balance, posture, coordination, and ability to move fluidly and with stability. Techniques are to slow in combat situations. Then you can adapt in the moment to the situation at hand instead of relying on techniques you have not trained enough to make second nature, and can only do on your dominant side....We are not John Wick......
Totally agreed , I would simply my hands up if someone is pointing a gun at my head won't be a moron trying to disarm a gun. Like seriously I don't want a hole in my head.
He did say that if the person with the gun is asking for money or your wallet that you should just give it to them.
But, if you think they are going to kill you and they are dumb enough to place the gun up close to you, and you feel certain they are going to kill you, then it is possible to grab the gun, prevent a hammer from dropping if it has one, prevent the slide from cycling, get the aim of the gun away from you, and create a new combat situation where both attacker and defender have a hold on the same gun. If you can have two hands on it to their one, so much the better.
I've practices this with a gun held to the front or back, but up close.
It is also very, very easy for a person with a gun to hold the gun in such a way as to make such a move impossible, by keeping the gun either distant enough or protected against a sudden grab for it.
Still, trying to disarm someone with a gun should only be tried if you feel certain they are going to kill you anyway, because then your choices are to die without trying or to maybe die trying.
Wow, well clarified in detail, you should write an ebook😊
@@saturdaymorningstv3262 looks like my comment was shadow banned, because I it.
when I was sparing, if someone was dumb enough to place their gun close enough to the target while not pulling the trigger, the target could grab the gun before the trigger was pulled and put the situation into a contest for control over the gun, with the target having two hands on the gun. If the gun had a hammer, the hammer would get stopped and this was a repeatable regular result changing between who was the attacker and who was the target.
But, this could easily be prevented by the attacker NOT being dumb with how the gun was used.
First of all as someone with many years of martial arts and firearms training , I can tell you that anyone with firearms training will not be dumb enough to move to put the gun against st your head in grabbing range. A firearm is a distance weapon. I would be out of grabbing range , with the firearm pointed at your chest. Try using that head shift to move before getting shot
Chances are greater that the person pointing a gun at you doesn't have firearms training.
Wouldn’t rely on that
Most criminals probably don't have proper training and are just street thugs and/or desperate. Also, there might not be much space depending on the environment.
Either way, better to know how to handle some scenarios than no scenarios.
If the attacker is out of reach youcan’t disarm him. If he’s in reach he can be disarmed regardless of how trained he is.
exactly.... this is an awful video simply because someone that is impressionable will think this would actually work, and they will end up getting shot.
My plan is to do everything in my power to prevent being put in this situation in the first place. Hermit life for me😁
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me too!!
Or pull the woke card and the guy will melt.
@@bigdaddy4197 ?
I have a 100% success rate of avoiding this situation for over 46 years.
The moment the guy can pull the trigger so close to your head AND ear, you're done. The explosion will make you almost faint as well as you're probably deaf then, at least on the side the gun was shooting.
Yeah your right
Came to say exactly the same thing
Look into the phenomenon known as auditory occlusion.
@andreasplienegger835,Exactly, the amount of gases that come out in thousandths of a second will possibly empty an eye, or rupture the eardrum, leaving the victim completely out of action. It's best to throw away your wallet and keys, and start backing away and running away.
@@tanguito0007I Right! I teach my students exactly that.. Whatever weapon the other guy pulls out of his pocket, give Himmel your wollen, watch and phone and back off. It's not worth it as it is delusional to think you can fight an armed guy and come out without any injury.
The first two seconds sums it all up. Don't be an idiot and try to "disarm" someone pointing a gun at you. No one worth their salt will hold a gun within reach for you to grab.
I agree 100%! Best defense against a firearm is your own firearm. Hope you have enough training to not miss more than the other person.
I disagree. how's he going to rob you, how's he going to do a home invasion, etc. Muggings don't happen with a guy with a gun standing 30 feet away demanding your wallet.
@@deusanti
" Best defense against a firearm is your own firearm."
He's already covering you with his gun, though. If you're going to move, it should be a move to get the gun away from you, not to draw your own. If you had time to draw your gun and fire, you had time to use an unarmed technique to move the gun and close in for a takedown etc. (I mean takedown as in, he's on the ground and you're still standing.)
Unfortunately it’s got little to do with salt and most likely lots to do with a different type of white powder these days. People high on speed, coke etc. don’t behave like in these “training” videos. Remember this. Always …
@@m3photo726
"People high on speed, coke etc. don’t behave like in these “training” videos. Remember this. "
You'd have a huge advantage on someone like that, though, being in your right mind. 🙂
Works or not, please give these guys an applause for trying to help people. At least they gave us something to think about, instead of being completely unprepared, when facing danger.
@1000YardShooter Of course, it's dangerous. That's the whole point of disarming. And in the movies, the victim disarms by removing the gun and then pointing it at the assailant with lightning speed, something only highly skilled professionals can do repeatedly.
Yeah, and now the criminals know how to rob people without the innocent bystander being able to disarm the criminal. I understand people want to spread advice to help others, but publicly post a video where even criminals can see is ignorant.
Applause? Fake self defence videos will kill you! They don't try to help to you at all they try to get viewcount and subscribers on you tube. You are so naive, it's unbelievable. A real good advice in dangerous situations: stay away! run! do what they say! And you have to most chance to survive.
I can get behind that
Credit for getting people killed?!?! This ONLY works if you attacker is dumb enough to just stand there. You'll notice you've never seen this done to anyone with even a modicum of experience
My takeaway: most people, when someone sticks a gun to their head, would instinctively move their head backward, leaving them off balance. Moving the head forward to meet the gun would imply resistance, daring the bad guy to shoot. And just moving the head slightly sideways would get a disorienting earful of muzzle blast. If you believe they'll shoot, wait until he's close, and deflect the muzzle away from you with your cross-hand as you grab his wrist with the same-side hand. If you can grab the gun and clamp onto it tightly that would either prevent the (semiauto) gun from firing (if you could simultaneously nudge the slide backward, taking the gun out of battery),, or if it fires, you would prevent the gun from cycling for a second shot as long as you can maintain your grip on it. Sound complicated? There's never a guarantee if you try, but there's a sure thing if you don't.
Okay I'm confused. Everything makes sense untill the end. Is this the full video? Disarm at end should be left hand on barrel, right hand on back triangle. If it's held by two hands you should use 3 points of contact by also clamping with the closest arm. Easy to disarm then
If you're gripping tightly around the slide while the first shot is being fired, there is a very good chance that the pistol will jam, and need to be cleared, before it will fire a second shot. Just a little food for thought.
For sure.
@@gorfthepixiefrog8287 This joker is going to get people... ended... with the sorry examples in this video. ☹️
Это всё херня..Если стрелок уверен, что будет стрелять, никогда к голове ствол не подставит...А выстрелит не подходя к жертве...
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правда!
That's the rule.
the head weaving, like evading a punch, from the muzzle might work. judging from the impact sound of the hammer/striker. The impact means the hammer/striker strike the primer of the cartridge burning the gunpowder inside that pushes the bullet moving through the barrel out from the gun. That will take milli seconds to happens. by the time the bullet leaves the barrel, the head, moving out in milli seconds, is already out also from the line of impact, the head,
Good point.
That' not why it works.
It works because human reaction time is not quick enough at that range.
that gun pointing works for those who are slow but might work for those who are quick and anticipated that kind of gun pointing that the pointer is even surprise by the quick counter move that he can not press the trigger quickly and it is too late.
Correcto.
When I was in the police academy, the disarm method we trained for was similar. Although, it trapped the assailant's finger inside the trigger guard. We were told to literally rip the firearm out of the assailant's hand, resulting in at least removing the skin from the trigger finger ("degloving"), if not severing the finger altogether. That's one way to get an asshole's attention.
So what happens if the gun is 2-3 feet away? too far to reach out and his reaction time is better. How do you combat that? Most holdups tend to be from a distance.
If it's a robbery, you hand over any valuables and pray the guy leaves. If it's kidnapping, you decide if you would rather try close distance and fight while hoping that you don't get hit in any vital locations or do you do get kidnapped hoping that things will work out eventually. That said, even having a pocket knife could help even the odds if you survive closing the distance first. Trying to out maneuver a gun from a distance is unfortunately just down to luck.
You don't. And if his reaction time is better? All the worse. You need to have an optimal scenario in all departments, if his reactivity is better than yours you're simply out of luck unfortunately. If he's too distant, again, out of luck.
Ok, but how do you practice for the concussion and deafness, ruptured ear drum, etc. of that missed shot?
Thanks
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This was good. There's a technique in close dropping straight down. Hands shoot up under the wrists of the attacker at the same time. Those side movements trigger the shooter reflexes.
Thanks for the video, but it's cut abruptly at the end. Would be better to leave it to the end of the technique and close naturally.
What training gun is that?
This is what happens when you train for movie scenarios 🤦♂️
Don’t comment if you don’t even know martial arts
@@Pjsindoccone1231 - look out... Krav police on the scene.... better lick them boots and do as they say, or they'll comment on your comment 😮
I think he knows common sense.
@@Pjsindoccone1231 ive been in more real life fights than i can count, with multiple attackers, weapons, etc....
and this guy's so called defense against guns WILL get you killed you try that crap
I’m deaf in one ear and ringing , I can’t see cuz the muzzle flash in my face but I’m good. Shoot that’s a semi auto? How many bullets does that carry?
Unsafe... you are ignoring the blast and muzzle flash right next to your temple...
It's definitely for a last resort if you figure they are going to kill you anyways
Really?!?! far less unsafe than being dead! Sheesh, can we apply some common sense?!?
It takes time to notice an injury. I'd like to think that I'd have control of the weapon and be holding it on the aggressor by the time I noticed that I was half deaf and sinsged on the side of the head.
@@SteveBaxter927what the hell do you mean? People don't point a gun to your head for fun, it's because they want something from you! If you're being robbed with a gun you do what they want and you go back home alive. Or you prefer acting like a hero and die like a mongol?
@@NeverDoneEver Doesn't take long to notice your brains are all over the wall
But with his finger being inside of the trigger guard, shouldn't the goal be to make him want to separate from the weapon by using leverage to ry and break his finger by bending the weapon in a direction based on whether he is a right or left handed shooter?
I see that many instructors dont know that the blast of any medium-high power caliber will left you deaf, blind and probably your head will be injuried and bleeding... just from the gas presure of the shot, even evading the bullet
All these RUclips instructors are frauds.
1st of all Kudos for showing a two handed grip. Every other video Ive see has been 1 handed grip with the arm extended.
Coincidentally a friend of mine who’s highly trained in defensive firearms & background in Krav Maga (my background is American Kenpo) and I were practicing gun disarms today. We worked on 1 &2 handed gun holds. I used a modified kenpo technique which woked against 1 hand but against2 handed grip we wound up in the exact body manipulation scenario. However, when I stepped in with the rt leg (gettingout of line of fire) while trapping the gun with only my left hand while using my right hand to deliver an upward palm strike to his left mandible and continued the motion of my my right hand still couldn’t disarm him. So I struck him w a right back fist to his right mandible. And brought back to gun and was able to to disarm. He was trying to pull the gun away and use an arm bar as in your scenario but my strikes prevented him from doing so.
Notes:
1) For safety reasons my strikes were light contact but his attempts to disarm me and execute his armbar were at full power. My disarm would likely be easier if I used full force.
2 All of the other disarms against 1 handed grips failed against 2 handed grips. with some resulting in the defender being shot even though he got initially got out of the line of fire.
3. Our scenario was an experienced gunman holding the gun w 2 hands close to his chest (but w in reach) and pointed to the defenders chest.
AgIn, excellent video! I look forward to trying your technique as well other techniques with w the gun aimed the head!
I appreciate that you are thinking aboit these problems, but seriously... grabbing a pistol like thst will rip apart your hand. Also I dont recommend firing a 9mm one inch from your face/eye/ear. Getting out of sight line yes, and if you have to fight do it. But move MORE, zone your body to outside, turn, and hit the hand grab arm etc (if you still alive) wrestle for the weapon
I have wrestled and did martial arts for 50 years, this guy is one of the best I've seen, alot of people still follow traditions but this guy thinks real world! Traditional is good but takes to long and very often doesn't even teach applications, kinda want to keep the mystery so you keep spending$$$. thumbs up my man!! I would work with you!!!
This guy is full of shit. He would have a hole in his head before he got his hands halfway to the gun.
How do I keep from getting startled by the sound of the gunshot after moving my head out of the line of fire?
I think ideally you're so committed to taking control of the weapon that it doesn't matter.
Good, really good moves. May i suggest taking that gun from attacker with breaking off finger (not in training tbh)? That was just one thing that blew my mind when I went to Japanese Ju Jutsu. To be honest JJJ broke me like a regular Karate guy, but in the good way :) Also need to say that our sensei was black belt in Karate, did some Judo and also had some some years in boxing (after loosing to a boxer as a black belt). So that was some crazy stuff we learned to combine JJJ with some boxing and other stuff.
Is that after he pulls the trigger or before
you can use the video just tap on pause as soon as his head moves and you’ll not be able to pause before it moves out of the line of fire. average reaction time 250ms, and the head can move in like 100ms
Grabbing the gun as you move is effective , depending angle & how close you are I know from experience but you just gotta have those quik reflexes alotta people dnt have✔️
Amen thanks for this video. It's hard to teach people this.
What if he shoots while you hold the gun. That that not harm your arm?
1.45 is a realistic situation, since two days ago I ended up in exactly the same situation, the difference is that I had the gun pointed at my chest, thank goodness I ended up controlling the situation. It really came to me by instinct because I am not trained in weapons. On the other hand, I do train bjj and mma.
I was too slow to dodge the bullet to my head.
Now i watch this vid to see what went wrong.
It seems you've never heard the noise of a real gun. a shot so close to your ear stuns you and knocks you out. and the flash could make you blind.
Another great video. Thou hope I never need to use it
That needs allot of training, it probably wont work if you full with fear and you probably only get one chanse.. If you right handed you allsow probably move your head to the right like he did.. on top of that people wont go so close to shorts anyone, thats the whole idé with a handgun, that you dont need to get that close. At that range one would probably us a knife
Like Neo in the Matrix: Don't be in the path of the bullet.
The key is to ask him a question right before you go for the disarm. It will retard his reaction time by at least 0.5 seconds.
For example :
Gun man points a gun at you and is within disarming distance. You get your hands up.
Gun man says, "give me your..."
You then say,"how much do you want?
0.5 seconds after you say the last word (want) then you go for the disarm. Works like a charm.
It does work but it's more effective when once you grab the hands spiral them back down towards his center
Great channel. I don't know why people with a gun need to get four or five feet away from you. If you have a firearm stay 15+ feet away from the target.
What do you do when someone has a gun pointed at someone you love and says hand over your wallet or purse and then points the gun at the other person and does the same thing?
Literally a disarm is to get the weapon away from the assailant and get away fast as possible but if you end up killing the assailant you could actually get arrested This is no cap.
Guys, please... a gun is NOT A CLOSE RANGE WEAPON.
A pistol within grabbing distance is no longer a firearm but an awkward rock.
To avoid disarming you have to hold the gun at the waist level. No outstretched hands!
Right, stay that calm when it happens at the atm.
What if you will start looking somewhere behind his back giving him a feeling that somebody is coming or watching and wheb he will try to check this your actions begin
Please don't try to stop a gun from firing with your hand. Obey or run! Smh
Standing tow to tie helps in all fighting. But I’ve had guys move first and I’ve caught their hands or hit them first. Natural talent.
Better to get them talking. If they are talking they generally won’t see you move so easily. They are talking the you disarm.
There's never a perfect plan against a gun except another gun. Word from the wise✌🏿
You lose your hearing from proximity of the muzzle. Who would put their hand gun so close to the head. In close quarter you would keep the firearm at waits level and use your other hand to hold the individual at bay.
I was criminally charged with disarming a Toronto Police officer. I did this while I was handcuffed from behind and had two officers grasping both my arms. I'm mentioning this not as a brag, but moreso because I don't like cops because they are abusive to people they consider vulnerable. I'm mentioning this to embarress the Toronto police whose average constable makes over 100k a year. With overtime; doing stuff like traffic control and enforcing the no-toboganning law on the many valleys in Toronto that are too steep for city-funded lawyers worried about liability. And then there's the street hockey law enforcement controversy. One cop, with overtime, made over 300k in one year. This is why I'm mentioning the fact that an old man can disarm a Toronto cop while in handcuffs.
I did put the gun back in his holster. Why? Because there is no tactical advantage of having a fully armed Glock with a mag of 15 41 calibre hollow point bullets. The "crime" I was arrested for was eventually dismissed (after spending months in jail), and even the disarming a cop charge was also dismissed. No explanation given. I did emphasize to my lawyer about the initial dubious charges, which I assume he investigated enough to get them dropped. And as for the gun charge; I emphasized to my lawyer that the liability was with these key-stone, over-paid and over-valued cops. I said I should not be punished for the incompitence of a cop who can't even keep control of his gun with a handcuffed prisoner!
Again; I was NEVER given a reason why these charges were dropped, but I did imply that I think I know why, just through logical reasoning. I still can't figure out why a cop would admitt to his superiors that his most lethal weapon was comprimised by an old man (in his 50s) while handcuffed and being escorted to the cruiser to be brought to jiaaa
I was criminally charged with disarming a Toronto Police officer. I did this while I was handcuffed from behind and had two officers grasping both my arms. I'm mentioning this not as a brag, but moreso because I don't like cops because they are abusive to people they consider vulnerable. I'm mentioning this to embarress to Toronto police whose average constable makes over 100k a year. With overtime; doing stuff like traffic control and enforcing the no-toboganning law on the many valleys in Toronto that are too steep for city-funded lawyers worried about liability. And then there's the street hockey law enforcement controversy. One cop, with overtime, made over 399k in one year. This is why I'm mentioning the fact that an old man can disarm a Toronto cop while in handcuffs.
I did put the gun back in his holster. Why? Because there is no tactical advantage of having a fully armed Glock with a mag of 15 41 calibre hollow point bullets. The "crime" I was arrested for was eventually dismissed (after spending months in jail), and even the disarming a cop charge was also dismissed. No explanation given. I did emphasize to my lawyer about the initial dubious charges, which I assume he investigated enough to get them dropped. And as for the gun charge; I emphasized to my lawyer that the liability was with these key-stone, over-paid and over-valued cops. I said I should not be punished for the incompitence of a cop who can't even keep control of his gun with a handcuffed prisoner!
Again; I was NEVER given a reason why these charges were dropped, but I did imply that I think I know why, just through logical reasoning. I still can't figure out why a cop would admit to his seniors, and defacto to the public court system, that he had his most lethal weapon taken from him by an old man (in his 50s). I gave the cop his gun back, and he would have been free from (what I suspect would be criminal charges involving negligence to keep control of your most lethal weapon).
All charges were dropped without explaination by the court or my lawyer who quit on me on the day I was in court and learned that all charges were dropped. Never trust a cop. They fight dirty (punch you from behind without warning or reason, they lie in court (purjury), and judges generally accept the cops testimony, however weak it is, because the Legal System is CORRUPT, and not just in Canada. It's a FARCE!
Oh boy, that grip tells all we need to know about his gun familiarity 😂
does this all come in the realm of telegraphing your movements?
full trigger pull vs cocked trigger big difference
It’s true. Now days especially, you should be prepared and at least try.
The problem is, criminals tend to work from retention because they dont want anyone but the victim to see their weapon.
Problem is anyone who knows firearms will never move close to you…that’s the beauty of pistols they work 30m away so why put it on ur forehead…also you don’t need to move ur head sideways…just turn ur head the pistol will go past you…as seen in Krav Maga same in back or chest…rotation
Or he could stand farther back.
My dad was in the army. He told me straight up: don’t ever try to disarm someone. Hand over the money.
Really??? If the gun fires with your hand on it it will cause sever pain in your hand, ear, and if your head is not clear, likely render you unconcience. You will likely recoil from the discharge and the attacker will get you with the rest of the mag.
The only time that I've had a gun in my face, initially, I froze, and was feeling I had to comply with the gunman. But then something in my brain triggered something else , I threw what I had in my one hand, which was a cow hoof (the ones that dogs chew), and then in my other hand, I was holding a glass of wine, and a torch. I dropped the torch as well, and I ran. I ran as fast as I could, got inside my house (I had been in my garden), put the wine down (where are my priorities???!!!!!), slammed my door and hung onto the handle. The gunman had been taken off guard long enough to give me a split second advantage and only got to the door when I had closed it. He pulled and I hung on. Luckily the door pulled outwards, not inwards. At that time, my brain went out of surviv mode only and I hit the alarm button by the door. No idea how come I was so lucky to get thru this unharmed. Only when the alarm went off and he was running away did he fire shots (at my dogs.... Luckily he did not hit them and they were fine), but I think he was not at all well gun trained, or calm. This saved me . I never thought I would run, would not have thought to disarm him. .. maybe a woman thing? Hope I never am in that situation again
Years ago the secret service contracted a couple if SF guys to develop a system that worked. It is effective 90% of the time usung simunitions. The demo here isn't realistic either.
Ok. Are you able to share the technique?
Yeah,you'll never gonna hear your wife shouting on you again😂😂😂😂😂
what if it's a water pistol?
If you tried this technique. Please relpy
If you are a few meters away, do what the marines do, zig zag. (Its a fps gamer strat too, for a reason)
oh don't forget guys your going to be in searing pain from getting your eardrum blown out 🙄👌
True. In self defense we must also train a bit with hearing guns , getting used to the sound because the sound in itself can freak people out . It s good to shoot in a range from time to time at least and understand how a gun works. It helps
You know.... In these situations you don t feel or hear or see much anymore. If trained enough, u ll be too focused on taking out the aggressor and getting out of there soon as you can
Not true. As a combat veteran who didn't always have ear protection on, I can tell you.. Under stress, you experience dimished sound. I've heard guns go off right next to me and it sounded like someone tapping their finger nails in a window.
There are two sides to self defense. Armed or unarmed, the principles are the same.. Theres the physical skills you need. And then the understanding of anatomy and psychology. If you only train one, you are losing.
@MMAC.indiana
Thank you sir! May I ask what you would suggest?
This guy must live in Hollywood...
I tell people IF you are to try any of this watch their eyes, when they look elsewhere that's when you make your move
"hands are faster than the eye... so if I move my head, it's faster than his hand..."
Martial arts is based on speed and deception! 👏🏾👏🏾
The best thing to do is to comply what he said get a chance to run in safe direction or do a million dollar chance in a lifetime
If I ever get a role in an action movie, I will use these moves lol.
Timing is crucial
Good stuff
Move your head, have a big firework going "BLAMM" next to eyes and ear...and start counting the next rounds getting dumped into you. Bravo!
So you would rather be a pansy and take it? Use common sense if you have any! The moving of the head is the first move, you have to follow up with more moves obviously!
I believe head movement was just step 1 of the drill he was demonstrating. Did you make a video how to defend against point blank gun that was better? Or did you just drop to your knees, cry and beg attacker in yours?
If it's a expert Gunmen you will see how he carries himself with the gun and if you don't wanna die you shouldn't try anything on a gun when the shooter aims to shoot you
All of this is a long shot, no pun intended, so many martial arts teachers do these choreographed "you do this and I do that" type of scenarios. Rather trust your instincts about situations that could be risky to you or people you are with or anyone else near you. Attempts at disarm inevitably end up with someone getting killed and are not learned via youtube. one needs specific training probably by special services, SAS or SEAL one on one for quite a while Carry your own weapon drawn and ready if you feel uneasy don't do what this guy is doing and besides all of this does anyone have any idea of their own response when a gun is pointed at you I think not. It happened to me in Singapore on a crowded street and I just handed over my wallet there and then yet I would have had no hesitation fighting back if the guy wasn't armed.
Not meaning to be disrespectful here, but one of the biggest problems I see with almost every single video on RUclips almost all of them is that there’s no reality in the attack or attacker. It’s one thing to slow things down for demonstration purposes, but almost one thing that nobody demonstrates is the emotion of the attacker. If you want to simulate a realistic attack, whether with a gun or with hands, you need to show the attacker, angry, or pretending to be hyped up on something, or very afraid and nervous, at the very least moving the gun back-and-forth a little as if he’s tracking the guy so if the guy moves a hair, he’s gonna point the gun at him. You’re talking about being able to move your head faster than he can pull the trigger you, but you can’t really prove that until he’s tracking you with that gun and he has nervous energy or anger or whatever. That’s the true measure of a simulation.
Hobo, I generally agree with you. This is the 1st video I’ve even seen with the gunman using both hands. (See my earlier post for my comments on that) and almost all have their gun arm extended. Great if you’re in that situation, Not realistic A friend and I have been training with each other for a couple of months. He’s a highly trained tactical gun guy with some martial arts background and my background is martial arts w some gun training.
We are training situations against weapons (Knives, Guns clubs). We are putting the video stuff to task in more realistic situations, including skilled shooter who knows how to prevent being disarmed. (Inluding techniques we learned and modified.)
Once we workout the kinks we may do a video modifying techniques.
You bring up a good point about the crazy wild man. Unfortunately for safety reasons there are limits to what what u can do in training. We will work on that scenario.
However , my opinion is that scenario would be simpler. 1st You can assume that he isn’t just a robber. If some is pulling the gun on you it’s easier to check the weapon bc u can avoid are not starting within the line of fire.
3rd It’s impossible to train an actual IRL scenario you mentioned. Both the attacker and defender will be full of adrenaline and under enormous stress in an environment very different than a training dojo.
I hope we can eventually put together a video that’s as realistic as possible, including simulated real life scenarios.
Again you raise good points and your criticisms are constructive.
@@zalsat16 Thanks for responding. I hope my comments weren’t disrespectful or troll like! In my experience with some minor real life situations I find that in the moment if your in a confrontation and your emotions are high, it’s hard to remember to do this or that, so you let your training and instinct kick in, but in my experience your brain is focused on the other person and not so much on what I’m going to do! I’ll watch the video again and there were definitely some good points on there!
Thanks again!😀
@@hobowithawaterpistol9070 Not disrespectful or trollish at all. I agree with you. Bruce Lee once said (paraphrasing) “you have to train and train so that when you need it (snaps his fingers) like that without thinking.” Just to expand on this. There are 3 stages of training. 1) Ideal phase. This is learning the choreographed techniques against a specific attack. The opponent is complying with your technique and every thing you do works as it “should”.
2nd. This is the “What if stage” this is where you use the choreographed technique, but there’s an issue: Ie, the opponent doesn’t react to your strike as planned, or does something unexpected. How would you adapt?
3rd is the Spontaneous stage. This is where you execute the choreographed technique automatically, including the adapting to any “what if’s” automatically.
4th is the fluid stage. This is where you instinctively react to an attack. (Iike to call it the FUBAR stage). Here you don’t know what the kind of attack is coming, the opponent isn’t a training partner and you don’t know what kind of skills he has. (i.e is an untrained thug? Is he a boxer, wrestler, have training in karate, bjj, etc). The environment might be a factor, What clothing are you and he wearing? Will he pull out a weapon? Is he taller, faster, and/or stronger than you. Is there a friend who might jump in.
Now all the techniques go out the window and you react instinctively, adapting to the situation as it changes, without thinking and adrenaline surging. Later, when you’re asked what you did, you’d only be able to say “I just reacted.” You probably won’t even remember any details.
I think this is the stage you’re talking about. The natural response is to focus on your opponent. You mentioned “minor incident”. If someone pushes you and you poke his eyes out, you’ll probably go to jail. Moreover, a minor incident can quickly escalate. For example anyone in a car accident has probably had the other guy screaming at you. How you react would depend on him. Does he have a weapon? etc. Suppose he’s calm and you’re exchanging insurance info and he suddenly punches you. You block the punch but “what if” he pulls a knife to stab you with his other hand. You’ve never learned a technique for this, but your muscle memory applies part of a technique you learned for something else. This all “just happens.”
It’s extremely difficult to train for this stage. Actually it’s impossible bc neither you nor your partner can use full force. And of course no matter how skilled & training, victory is never guaranteed.
IMO it’s impossible to show the fluid stage on video. I just wish more people making these videos would admit the limitations of the techniques instead of marketing them as “the best” “Fastest” or “one simple way” to deal with a situation.
Thanks for your posts. You raised exactly the right questions. Most comments I’ve seen on these videos fall into 2 groups. “What a great video” or “This is crap and doesn’t work.“
Keep it up Hobo!
@@zalsat16 I finally found the channel that seems to have in my opinion the most realistic in the moment attacks or confrontations. It’s called Urban Combatives School of Self Protection. I think regardless of the martial arts, it’s good to get some friends or students to test each other and see what happens!
I remember one year we had this big guy with almost no neck come into our class on his first day. He had experience in another art and picked up quick in our class. The instructor called him up because he was big (nicest guy btw) and tried to do a technique on him and failed miserably! It was so embarrassing to watch. I love what I do, but I try to be humble and honest and question the reality!
Just remember the compression and power burns will nub your whole side of your face.
disarm means to take the firearm away from his grasp. that didn't happen in this video.
All of this action and reaction doesnt account for bullet speed 😢
This is basically telling us that if they’re holding the gun with two hands, we’re screwed. 😂😢😊
Like like this video. Good content.
RUclips with its new anti-Ad Blocker campaign ....they don't like their customers I guess.
Do you realize how low that will be going off right next to your ear.....
Funniest thumbnail I've seen LOL
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Move your head to the side when he fires and you'll be loosing an eardrum and be disoriented
Very dangerous game
Sometimes it simply comes down to who's MUCH stronger, MUCH faster,and has ZERO telegraph...2 ppl can perform the exact SAME disarm with completely different results.👀💯💯💯💪🏾🧔🏾♂️
Unfortunately, I’m here because I have my suspicions on some guy that goes to my school
I know you can't train with a real loaded gun without tye safety on. My point is a if a criminal has a real loaded gun at you your defense will be much different when your training with a toy gun. You will be able to defend against a toy gun. A real gun much different.
Fair point. What they have here is good since you get some clicking action. Maybe a bb gun? Wear some goggle for protection and if you get clipped you have something to hit you and not kill you lmao
Olde guy tip: Back up 36 inches. If i have the gun why am I in close quarters?
You just need to be fast no time for anything else
You might become deaf in your left ear... but at least you are alive.