With LU stock as far as I know the number painted on the cab is the unit number and the dot matrix number is the train number. Much like regular trains have reporting numbers (e.g 1AXX).
LUL use national rail signalling and track on the Bakerloo line, right? (as opposed to the Metropolitan line where national rail trains use LUL signalling and track) Oh, and I'm not having sparks. It's an arc. Very very common sight on a wet day.
In terms of the signalling used I'm not 100% sure. I believe that is the case as that what I've seen mostly. Next time 'm down this way I'll have a look around the network and see what I can find
I'm pretty sure it does, between Harrow and Queens Park. I know you get a ton of requests but are you going to ever do the Dawlish Sea Wall? Might be one for the summer, but it's such a pretty place to watch trains go by.
Tornado922 not quite, Bakerloo Line is home to the 1972 stock and Piccadilly is home to the 1973 stock. The one train that looked very similar was the 1967 stock which was replaced in 2011 I believe.
Apparently, Virgin Trains might be stopping at this station as evident though the train class "stop" signs (idk what they're actually called) at Platforms 5 & 6. Platforms 3 & 4 are still going to be reserved for the fast trains. If you also check Google Maps and Citymapper, they both offer a "Virgin Trains" departure board on this station, but it doesn't work/display anything yet. One can only hope, y'know!
It could very well be a case that when VT were considering new routes for some of their trains they had Harrow and Wealdstone readied for when the service was supposed to start. Whether or not they will actually ever stop here remains to be seen. I would find it very strange to see a VT service call here seeing as the station is served frequently by LNWR the LO/LU services
@@Tornado922 That is a good theory, but one would ought to find it strange when Google Maps and Citymapper are only adding this now. So whilst you may be right in saying that Platforms 5 & 6 are VT compatible, not one, but two major transport apps have added VT on the Harrow & Wealdstone Departures. I wouldn't know about how long the Class Sign at the end of the platform has been there, so I can't really talk on behalf of that.
It's running numbers based on my investigating. All LU services I've ever seen have a three-digit number on them somewhere. E.g. I was on the Northern Line from Edgware to Bank on one with 251 on the front, then the destination underneath.
Basically the LU stock trains is the year they were made but you can get things like S stock for the metropolitan, circle and district e.g the old Victoria train was the 62 stock
You don't use the numbers you just spot the year of manufacture stock The bakerloo line uses the 1972 stock Piccadilly:1973 stock Northern:1995 stock Jubilee: 1996 stock Victoria 2009 stock District S stock Metropolitan S stock Waterloo & city 1992 stock Hammersmith and city S Stock Circle S Stock Central 1992 Stock Hope this helps:)
District Metropolitan and Circle are S7 stock, Metropolitan are S8. What this means is that the S8 on the Metropolitan is an 8 car S stock while the other lines run 7 car S stocks
Nice video very informative, I have been to Harrow and Wealdstone before and I didn't have access to the middle platforms due to the fence. Did station staff open it for you?
@@Tornado922 the gate is usually locked to the public u less trains change platform to 4 and 3. Gates were put there to try to deter suicides , thats why they are locked.
This is what I know about the whatever line to London Euston. Bakerloo and overground join when their terminus is passed and then later the bakerloo goes and then the overground still is intact and then whatever then London Euston is terminal for national and overground
I think what you're trying to say is the following: The Bakerloo line starts at Harrow and Wealdstone and finishes at Elephant and Castle. The London Overground line starts at Watford Junction and terminates at London Euston. Both the Overground and Underground lines meet at Harrow and follow one another all the way to South Hampstead where the Bakerloo line continues under the city and the Overgound line continues into London Euston
The Underground stock should have a five digit number on the front, apparantly they run in pairs eg 11081+11082, that's what i know of them (whether it's true or not i don't know)
Its not between the wheels and the track, Its the 3rd Rail shoe that causes the sparks below the train. The Track and wheels dont conduct anything themsleves.
With LU stock as far as I know the number painted on the cab is the unit number and the dot matrix number is the train number. Much like regular trains have reporting numbers (e.g 1AXX).
It seems everyone is saying this, it does help though as now I know what I'm actually looking for
390's are clearly very frequent here! :P Lovely shots there! Keep it up!
Your never to far away from one here hahaha, I'm glad you enjoyed watching this :)
My favourite being the 350
For future reference mate. The numbers for LU units is the running number on the front little Dot Matrix sign mate. They don't have class numbers
Thanks for letting me know :)
Tornado922 No problem ;)
I've been in suspense for a new episode. Especially after your Carpenders Park video was sensational. Thanks
Hopefully it's met and exceeded your expectations
12:24 it's Bombardier 221115
Thanks for letting me know
Do you remember when the bakerloo line ran to Watford
LUL use national rail signalling and track on the Bakerloo line, right? (as opposed to the Metropolitan line where national rail trains use LUL signalling and track)
Oh, and I'm not having sparks. It's an arc. Very very common sight on a wet day.
In terms of the signalling used I'm not 100% sure. I believe that is the case as that what I've seen mostly. Next time 'm down this way I'll have a look around the network and see what I can find
I'm pretty sure it does, between Harrow and Queens Park.
I know you get a ton of requests but are you going to ever do the Dawlish Sea Wall? Might be one for the summer, but it's such a pretty place to watch trains go by.
Bloody hell Tornedo922, are you getting into the Christmas spirit here by giving us a bumper edition of content? 3 in one haha. Great work :)
HAhahaha, well you know how it is ;) Gotta get into the festive spirit and all that hahaha
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Bakerloo lines are very similar to Piccadilly line 
The trains are the same
Tornado922 not quite, Bakerloo Line is home to the 1972 stock and Piccadilly is home to the 1973 stock. The one train that looked very similar was the 1967 stock which was replaced in 2011 I believe.
Apparently, Virgin Trains might be stopping at this station as evident though the train class "stop" signs (idk what they're actually called) at Platforms 5 & 6. Platforms 3 & 4 are still going to be reserved for the fast trains.
If you also check Google Maps and Citymapper, they both offer a "Virgin Trains" departure board on this station, but it doesn't work/display anything yet.
One can only hope, y'know!
It could very well be a case that when VT were considering new routes for some of their trains they had Harrow and Wealdstone readied for when the service was supposed to start. Whether or not they will actually ever stop here remains to be seen. I would find it very strange to see a VT service call here seeing as the station is served frequently by LNWR the LO/LU services
@@Tornado922 That is a good theory, but one would ought to find it strange when Google Maps and Citymapper are only adding this now.
So whilst you may be right in saying that Platforms 5 & 6 are VT compatible, not one, but two major transport apps have added VT on the Harrow & Wealdstone Departures.
I wouldn't know about how long the Class Sign at the end of the platform has been there, so I can't really talk on behalf of that.
Fantastic video mate does look a lot better then South Kenton and I think the bakerloo line trains just have coaching numbers not set numbers
It's running numbers based on my investigating. All LU services I've ever seen have a three-digit number on them somewhere. E.g. I was on the Northern Line from Edgware to Bank on one with 251 on the front, then the destination underneath.
Basically the LU stock trains is the year they were made but you can get things like S stock for the metropolitan, circle and district e.g the old Victoria train was the 62 stock
likethelittle3yt 67 not 62
You don't use the numbers you just spot the year of manufacture stock
The bakerloo line uses the 1972 stock
Piccadilly:1973 stock
Northern:1995 stock
Jubilee: 1996 stock
Victoria 2009 stock
District S stock
Metropolitan S stock
Waterloo & city 1992 stock
Hammersmith and city S Stock
Circle S Stock
Central 1992 Stock
Hope this helps:)
That does help thanks very much :D
Tornado922 did you read the bottom?
District Metropolitan and Circle are S7 stock, Metropolitan are S8. What this means is that the S8 on the Metropolitan is an 8 car S stock while the other lines run 7 car S stocks
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Well thank you kindly for saying so :)
Nice video very informative, I have been to Harrow and Wealdstone before and I didn't have access to the middle platforms due to the fence. Did station staff open it for you?
Thank you very much for saying so, I opened the gate myself it's for public use like the rest along the network :)
@@Tornado922 the gate is usually locked to the public u less trains change platform to 4 and 3. Gates were put there to try to deter suicides , thats why they are locked.
This is what I know about the whatever line to London Euston. Bakerloo and overground join when their terminus is passed and then later the bakerloo goes and then the overground still is intact and then whatever then London Euston is terminal for national and overground
I think what you're trying to say is the following: The Bakerloo line starts at Harrow and Wealdstone and finishes at Elephant and Castle. The London Overground line starts at Watford Junction and terminates at London Euston. Both the Overground and Underground lines meet at Harrow and follow one another all the way to South Hampstead where the Bakerloo line continues under the city and the Overgound line continues into London Euston
It looks like it was a cloudy and foggy day am I right
Very much so
The Underground stock should have a five digit number on the front, apparantly they run in pairs eg 11081+11082, that's what i know of them (whether it's true or not i don't know)
I couldn't tell you in all honesty
Yay harrow and Wealdstone
I'm glad you liked it
Great video and they really go for it!! you can't even read the numbers sometimes.
Thanks very much, they do thunder through here. I was amazed to catch as many numbers as I did lol
for sure yeah you don't need glasses ;)
Bakerloo line is 1972 stock
isaac awsome Wells about to say the same thing
1969 is it not?
Btw why are there sparks?
It's the connection between the pantograph and the electric wires or the wheels and the track and the amount of energy causes the electricity to spark
BAY Playzz ok thanks :)
Its not between the wheels and the track, Its the 3rd Rail shoe that causes the sparks below the train. The Track and wheels dont conduct anything themsleves.
@@jasonbennet296 you are awesome
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